government a blank check. mr. speaker, you don't have to take my word for all of this, listen to the tuc general sector who says this -- she does -- she does represent an organization -- she did represent an organization that has 6 million members affiliated to it. this deal, mr. speaker, would be a disaster for working people. it would hammer the economy, cost jobs and sell workers' rights down the river. listen to make uk representing british manufacturers say, and i quote, this is make uk's comments on this deals, members, might care to listen to them, relationships to the closest relationships in goods have gone. under this deal, differences in

uk and eu, without clarity our companies will invest. and the deal will relate to a very sad brexit read from a climate perspective. the message, mr. speaker, is clear. this deal is not good for jobs, damaging the industry and a threat to our environment and our natural world. it's not a good deal for our country. and future generations will feel the impact. it should be voted down today. by this house. mr. speak, i also totally understand the frustration and f fatigue across the country and this house. but we simply cannot vote for a deal that is even worse than the one the house rejected three times. the government's own economic analysis sos this deal would

make the poorest regions even poor are. and cost even person in this country over 2,000 pounds per year. if we vote for a deltha makes our constituents poorer, we're not likely to be forgiven for doing that. mr. speaker, the government is claiming that if we support their deal, it will get brexit done. and today, it's the only way to stop a new deal. i simply say nonsense. supporting the government this afternoon would merely fire the startle pistol in a race, a race to the bottom, in regulations and standards. and if anyone had any doubts about this, we only have to listen to what their own honorable members have been saying, like the one yesterday who rather let the cat out of the bag, saying members should back this deal as it means we can leave with no deal by 2020.

the cat got out of the bag. so, can the prime minister confirm whether this is the case and that if a free trade agreement has not been done, it would mean britain falling on to world trade organization terms by december next year, with only northern ireland having preferential access to the eu market. no wonder the foreign secretary said this represents, and i quote, a cracking deal for northern ireland. they would retain frictionless access to a single market. it does beg the question, mr. speaker, why can't the rest of the uk get a cracking deal by obtaining access to a single market. it said, and i quote, it allows the all-out economy tonight could develop and one that protectors the single market.

some have to welcome the economy but i didn't think that included the government and conservative unionist party. the prime minister declared in the summer under no circumstances will i allow the eu, or anyone else, to create any kind of division down the irish sea. you cannot trust a word that he says. mr. speaker, voting for a deal today won't end brexit. it won't deliver certainty. and the people should have the final say. labor is not prepared to sell out the communities that we represent. we are not prepared -- we are not prepared to sell out their future, and we will not back this sell-out deal. this is about our community's now and about our future

generations. mr. prime minister, mr. speaker, i must confess, i'm disappointed by the title right on the gentleman that was taken today, because i had thought he might rise to the occasion and see that the electorate broad, the electorate, i believe his own electorate, would want to get brexit done. and i must say, i thought that he would wish to reflect the will of the people who voted for brexit in 2016 and waited for a very long time. he's wrong about environmental and social protection, this government, and this country will maintain the very highest standards and believe in environmental protection and social protection across europe and the world, believe, for instance, in our commitment to the carbon neutral of 2050.

and i told him many times before, this freedom, brexit gives us the opportunity to do things that we've not been able to do and that are deeply desired by the british people, such as banning the live export of animals. and i do think, to say nothing of other things that we can do differently and better. he's wrong, mr. speaker, about business. the overwhelming view of business is that there are great opportunities for brexit, but as both steward wrote, i think it was the former chairman of the remain campaign and the government of the bank of england who have said today is this a good deal for the british economy. and indeed, as i look ahead, mr. speaker, the only risk i see to the british economy are the catastrophic plans of the right honorable gentleman and his semi

marxist party. what british business wants is the certainty and the stability of getting brexit done on october 31st, and then the opportunity to build a new future with our european partners and to do free trade deals around the world. mr. speaker, he is wrong about northern ireland which will exit the eu customs union, along with the rest of the uk. and i may say, in defiance, in defiance, of what the commission and indeed the irish government had intended. and he talks about trust, mr. speaker. this is the right honorable gentleman. i don't think we should be necessarily add abe adverse say arial today. he doesn't trust. he has not been willing to trust the people of this country by

wanting them the right to adjudicate on them on policy. he won't trust the people. and he doesn't trust the people by delivering on the result of their referendum in 2016. mr. speaker, i suggest in all humility to the house, they should ignore the pleadings of the honorable gentleman, and vote for an excellent deal that will take this country, and take the whole of europe forward. >> mr. kenneth clark. >> mr. speaker, the prime minister began his statement by saying how rare it had been in this house ever for people to support federalism and the united states. and i entirely agree with that. federalism and the belief in the superstate are as rare in this country as they are nowadays in

every one of the other 27 member states. but would he accept, would he accept, that for the last 50 years, the conservative party, the vast majority of the conservative party and all four conservative prime ministers in whose government i served believe that membership of the european union gave us a stronger voice politically in the world as one of the three leading members of the european union. and gave us access to the free trade market that enabled us to build a strong and competitive economy. so, would he reassure me, as i assured him i will vote for his deal once we have given legislative weight to it, that when he goes on to negotiate the eventual long-term arrangements, he will seek a sluice where we have the same completely open

access across the channel, across the irish border to trade an investment in both directions with the european union that we have now, even if we have to sacrifice the political benefits we've hitherto enjoyed for membership to the union. >> thank you. i wish to agree with my rightful friend, at least with analysis. because as he said the skepticism across the eu and across the continent at the moment about federalism and about building a superstate. i think he's right about that, mr. speaker, but unfortunately, that skepticism had not percolated up, as it were, to the elites that run the eu and those who set the agenda in brussels. and with every other member who

has the floor must be heard, mr. prime minister. i think i'm making a valid point, mr. speaker, is that in brussels, the message that my right honorable friend has said has not been continued, and a large number of projects. i was within the last couple of days hearing the distinguished president of france calling for -- mr. speaker, a banking union. there. is a strong desire they wish to intensify by creating a defense pact. there is a strong desire, banking union, mr. speaker -- thank you. there is a strong desire, there is a strong desire to continue the process. that's b-a-n-c-i-r-e, mr. speaker. in a way that would meet the

skepticism, not of my right honorable friend but also millions of people around the eu. and i can give him, mr. speaker, the absolute reassurance, that in the course of the negotiations, in which i say we would want the entire house or as many as possible want to take part, we will ensure that we have exactly what he desires. a zero tariff free trade partnership, so that there is maximum trade, and increasing trade between our economies. >> thank you, mr. speaker, can i join you in citing all of the staff that are made to be sitting possible and my thanks to the prime minister for advance of this statement, mr. speaker, northern ireland, scotland, zero. that's the number of references

to northern ireland in the statement. not one. not one reference to scotland. mr. speaker, the prime minister has determined from brussels to present that he knows, that we all know is actually worse than theresa may's deal. a deal that would see it shocked by the government, led to an economic disadvantage with scotland's views and interests totally disregarded by this prime minister and his government. mr. speaker, the scottish national party could not have been clearer. we would support any mandate to approach the european union to remain in the single as a matter of fact and the customs union to simply to mean in the union altogether. yet, the prime minister has made

it clear, he was not and is not interested in meaningful discussions with the snp or with our scottish government. he and his cronies at number 10 don't care about scotland. this body government has sold scotland out, and once again, they have let scotland down. by rightfully, northern ireland has been allowed special arrangements to be allowed in the eu singles markets and customs union. the prime minister would not deport scotland the same arrangements. he didn't even consider giving scotland a fair deal. mr. speaker, despite the fact that the scottish people like the people of northern ireland voted overwhelmingly to remain in the european union, this prime minister has never entertained the negotiatiotion g scotland the same arrangements

that northern ireland gets in this deal. the truth is that this prime minister doesn't care about scotland. he and his government have treated the scottish government, our scottish parliament, and the softish people but nothing was content. mr. speaker, not a single mp who cares about scotland's future should consider supporting the prime minister to be. they should stand with the scottish national party and vote this deal down. any and all assessments of any brexit outcome, short of the united kingdom and that scotland will be purer no matter how we leave the european union. people up and down scott lolandt the prime minister have shafted scotland. mr. speaker, england is getting

what it voted for. wales is getting what it voted for, and northern ireland is getting a special deal, yet scotland that democratically voted is being ignored and treated as a second class nation by this government. account prime minister tell us now how would he justify himself to the people of scotland at the general election. when he cannot and when he fails and when the brexit-backing fan club fails, will he finally respect the mandate of the scottish people and let them have their say on our future? >> mr. speaker, i thank the right honorable gentleman, i'm sure he will want to join me, and i'm sure his colleagues will want to join me congratulating the england rugby team on a 40-16 victory over australia.

i admired -- there was a lot of enthusiasm, i thought, in his response. and, mr. speaker, i must say that i think he's been a little bit -- a little bit childish in his response, because after all, i didn't mention england, i didn't mention wales. the reason that northern ireland is a point of the subject, a legitimate point, is that there are particular circumstances in northern ireland at the border which deserve particular respect and sensitivity. and that is what they have received in this deal. this is a great deal for england. it's a great deal for wales, it's a great deal for scotland, and it's a great deal for northern ireland. and for the people of scotland, they now have a chance, championed by a wonderful scottish conservative indeed, to take control of their fisheries from the end of next year. and allow the people of scotland at last to enjoy the benefits of their spectacular marine wealth

in a way that they would be denied under the scottish national party who i never tariffed in telling you would have the backing of to brussels. >> mr. duncan smith. >> mr. speaker. right, so, there we have the beginnings of the debate. and we've stayed with it some length, so you can get a flavor for it. what we've heard so far, the prime minister setting out the motion that is to approve the agreement he made with brussels. the leader of the opposition is basically saying, no, they will not vote for this and giving the reasons why. and a variety of other party members now coming forward, including the father of the house, ken clarke, about their reasons. good morning to you both. >> good morning. >> and before we go further, what did you make of the prime

minister and the way he spoke this morning? >> he was drawing upon the most macro political philosophical argument that he possibly could and that is to say that britain has for a long time sit uncomfortable within the european union. tophrasearaphrase, forget the practicalities of this, england didn't want to break the union, it doesn't want to break the federation of states. he's trying to make that argument saying we need to leave. we need to move on as a country. and we all need to accept that the broader mps can at least support that britain has never been stronger about the position in the eu. it doesn't mean we need to support this deal but the only deal on the table.

>> nic, he has a valid point that many of us heard over the years is that the uk has stood on the outside throwing rocks and sticking holes and spikes into the wheels of the european union. >> we are an island. and i think it has defined our history and the way that we record of rest of the european nations all on one continent. we regard our fisheries as our fisheries. we regard the negotiations with the european union over those, a contentious issue and a tiny part of the british economy, but such a touchstone issue of what it means to be dealing with partners who have a voracious appetite for the fish of your shores. and boris johnson brought this up today, talking about the scots. this is you should we on ireland

view the european union. there has never been a political narrative in britain that has tried to unthread or untake that and that has sat badly with us. and sometimes, there's been absolute bitter anger at the european union. >> but how is it going to go today? at the end of the day, that's really what we need to know. i mean, there's this amendment which we have a copy of here which -- well, i'm sure you're familiar with it backwards, no doubt by heart. >> right, quite sure. >> and this house has considered the matter but withholds approval unless and until implementing legislation is passed. now, if that amendment is passed, then the government has basically said they're withdrawing consideration of the bill. why? >> well, the most damaging thing about that amendment was today had the prime minister's deal passed in accordance he wouldn't have had to ask for an extension

but if the bill passes then he would have to ask for an extension because they would have to wait for the rest of legislation to move its way through parliament. so then britain would be in this limbo period where it hasn't potentially left by 31st of october. for those who want to strike a different deal have a second referendum, it would then present opportunities for them to amend the legislation going through the house of common sense commons to obtain that. >> for boris johnson, it represents the biggest of conundrums. the do or die leaving by october 35. this is a challenge to that he will have to navigate. he believed he had mechanisms to navigate around the necessities of the ben act saying he would have to extend the deadline for leaving the european union to the 31st of january of next

year. this brings the hurdle up in a different way, and it just makes it much harder for him to stick to his word. this is perhaps the worst nightmare in a way, base it clouds the issue that he had managed to reduce down to simple deal or no deal motions today. >> and he and his supporters would call this an insurance policy to absolutely guarantee that britain can't brush out without a deal, even though it would be contingent on eu extending in a fashion that mirrors the amendment, but those with boris johnson call this a wrecking ball because it removes that binary choice. >> it hasn't called the amendments yet. on the numbers, anna stewart has been crunching the numbers on the numbers. what have they shown? does the prime minister have a

realistic, never mind theoret theoretical, does he have a realistic chance of getting the deal through which would mean defeating the amendment? >> it is genuinely too close to call, i mean, it really, really is looking at the numbers but they've all been shifting within the last half hour. last night, we saw him get 500 votes, he needs 320, we have a tweet from the chairman of the europe mean union, that is the hardline, and many of them, some of them administered in boris johnson's government, in the last half hour, we just tweeted steve baker saying, one for boris' deal in the national interest, two, support the legislation watered down by the opponent, three, vote for boris throughout to give him maximum

opportunity to deliver for the country. they are not a party, they do not have a wit. this is an indication many more are switching over. i'd say many numbers are looking ever better in boris johnson's favor. richard. >> while you're talking, anna stewart, i want to go back to the house sand liand listen. >> indeed, those who were seeking the leadership. tory party said will he not abide by that and please reconsider the fact that we must leave as one nation together. there may be special circumstances for northern ireland, but that can only be with the consent of the people. northern ireland, unionists to nationalists together. that is the basis in which the peace process has advanced. he must respect that. >> well, mr. speaker, i must

say -- well, first of all, i said i'm grateful to the right honorable gentleman in this sense that together, he and i and the rest of his group did make a case powerfully to the eu that it was necessary for northern ireland to come out of the customs union. which was not, by the way, a point that was accepted by them. and we were successful in that. in so far as he's critical of the arrangements, and by the way, the significant point about a customs union is that it say union that sets its own duties at the perimeter around that customs union. that is what the whole of the uk will do, including northern ireland, and it was not let's be frank what the european commission -- >> so the dup has decided it is not supporting the deal. the government needs those votes. as we take a break. and it's difficult to see where the votes come from. we'll take a break and be back

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it is now so urgent for us to move on and to build a new relationship with our friends in the eu, on the basis of a new deal. a deal that can heal the rift in british politics, unite, unite, unite the warring instincts in our soul. and now is the time for this great house of commons to come together and bring the country to together today.

>> welcome back to cnn special brexit coverage. i'm bianca nobilo at the house of commons. at what brexit should look like as the clock ticks down. >> boris johnson made a strong defense. you just saw it there and the attack from labor, the labor leader. the party calling it a sellout. and when the vote is taken, the prime minister will need 320 members of the parliament to back him up. >> ben, great to have you on the program, i guess the big question of the day is can the prime minister get this deal through? >> it looks like he's now got the numbers, the brexit, the part of his policy, all say they'll back it. they're up to about 40 opposition and independent mps saying they will, so, yes, it looks like -- >> hang on, hang on -- >> we may not get to that, we

may not get to that. >> where do you think he's up to now, 38, 39, 310 -- >> i think he's slightly over that. there are more that will come that aren't announced. he'll probably get up to 315. >> it's interesting when you listen to the member of the key labor party this party this morning, they're at pains to say they would remove the w.h.i.p. with the severe instruction that the leader can give if they voted with the prime minister today. but then it all comes to the letwin amendment which we were just talking about. how can we calculate the numbers for this? >> now, just a minute, the letwin amendment which i assume the speaker is going to come to, once these statements, he starts calling them, this is the wrecking ball, but if this passes, then the government says it's withdrawing the

consideration today. >> yes, they said they'll send home mps before the final vote takes place but what they'll do is introduce this bill on tuesday. >> but why -- >> why is that helpful for them? >> it's helpful for them, because effectively, these mps are trying to ensure that there's not a deal. two things need to happen. mps need to hold a vote approving the deal and the legislation needs to pass. it doesn't matter, government won't have the vote first. and then the mps are saying we will trust you to absolutely introduce this bill to go through, let's pass that first, then we'll have the vote on the deal. number 10 would be happy on that because they would love that clear cut and stop boris johnson. >> but as a practical matter, if they don't approve it today, if he does send them home, then he has to sign the letter? >> yes, i think that's the way we're heading, boris johnson

said do or die, we would leave it on the table without an extension. but they are confident they will get through that law in time and hold the vote and still leave by the 31st. >> upon what basis do they have that confidence, bearing in mind, if they do have this enabling legislation to go through, there's a meyriad of delaying tactics over these 30 or 40 pieces of legislation? >> well, now confidently they've gotten the numbers to approve the deal. it's very hard to say they won't also vote that day. >> so the only argument that boris johnson can try to ensure is not the alternative that this deal will be a no deal somehow, but it would be his zedeal, or just continuing to prolong the process and that the country is fed up and parliament needs to accept the fact that britain ended with that amendment. >> right, it has shifted.

it's not his deal or no deal. it's let's get brexit done. the phrase is very popular i'm told in both groups. they just want it to be over with. >> they want it to be over with. but i come back to the practicalities of it. you say it has got the votes here, he'll have the votes in the enabling legislation. but he won't know whether he's got the votes until they have the vote. and that will be after the letwin amendment? >> that's right. that's right. so, tuesday now becomes super tuesday, super saturday has faded away. and now this brings forward we think the deal in the first add second reading, the first stages in parliament. and only then will we know for sure if mps will pass the deal. >> just to clarify, you're saying if they come back on tuesday, they will actually start the business of passing the withdrawal act? >> yes. >> which they would hope to do

in what, three or four -- oh, there we go. >> off to the races. yes. stop brexit, there we go. we'll have more of our special parliamentary coverage in just a moment. by the way, we'll talk about whoever that chap is and why he keeps shouting. we'll talk about the amendment that's about to happen, after the break. s, this, and even this. but i don't have to clean this, because the self-cleaning brush roll removes hair while i clean. - [announcer] shark, the vacuum that deep cleans now cleans itself.

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live pictures from london this hour. we've been watching the mother of all parliaments in action. the british prime minister boris johnson trying to get his brexit deal over the hump to get the votes for brexit before the

october 31st deadline at the end of the month. and the debate there ensues. our teams are on the ground there. we'll continue to follow that story. welcome back to viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm george howell in atlanta. other news we're following, the impeachment inquiry. u.s. president rolls on and a familiar name keeps popping up, that name rudy giuliani. cnn has learned president trump's personal attorney pushed the state department and then the white house to grant a visa to a former ukrainian official. manu raju tells us who it was and what he may have been promising. >> new details about how rudy giuliani used his influence to try to get dirt on joe biden. and then later tried to push the federal government to reverse a decision that it had made. now, according to testimony of george kent, a career diplomat gave to congressional officials earlier in the week, we are told that kent had rejected

giuliani's efforts to try to get a visa for victor shulkin. and giuliani wanted to get shulkin a visa. and they rejected that vereques and giuliani went around the date department to grant him a visa. now the visa was never granted and giuliani carried out secret interviews with skulkin vee virginia skype. and nonetheless, giuliani took those records to the state department. asked the state department to investigate. later those were turned over to the inspector general at the state department who turned it over to capitol hill to further investigate this matter. shulkin has accused marie

yovanovitch and president trump removed her from that post as well after giuliani had targeted her and that caused much controversy in the previous vehicles and months in causing the resignation of one high-level adviser who was concerned that she was being unfairly targeted for political reasons. but all of this, giuliani's efforts form the basis of what the whistle-blower complained that the president used his office to try to benefit himself politically. and tried to urge the government to investigate and dig up dirt on a political rival. and of course that forms the basis of the democrats' impeachment inquiry. another detail that shows the depth of giuliani's efforts to draw u.s. policy towards ukraine. manu raju, inquir cnn, capitol . jacob is an associate at lse

ideas, the london policy think tank. joining us from london. good to have you with us. >> good morning. >> so, what we're learning from the testimony of that career diplomat george kent that the state department rejected to rudy giuliani trying to get visas for a ukrainian prosecutor. and that mr. giuliani's personal went around state and never got that visa. the question, how damning is this, in your view, on top of all of the other testimony, the evidence, the text messages that have come to bear? >> it's damning, but it's hard to keep track of all of the different threads of this story, particularly because the -- not the transcript, but the memorandum that the white house released initially by way of trying to explain the faction was already so damning, filling in the back story is helpful, it's particularly helpful for the house committees that are working on this impeachment inquiry. but it's slightly like being in

the upside down. because the damning thing, the thing that the white house released first and we're now getting more of the story, and i'm sure there's much more of the story to tell. everyone makes the analogy to watergate. watergate had the moment of the release of the tapes. the final turning point in what had been a long and complicated story. this has started with the public revelation. and so i think the expectations that we as the viewing public, agency person voters, as people invested to some degree in the outcome of this story, the opinion we have of it is somewhat converted. we already know the contours of the story, now we're just finding the details, rather than finding the big twist at the end of it. >> with congress investigating the outgoing energy secretary rick perry and his contact with ukrainian officials, the secretary argues the documents that are requested, they say they're confidential and might

be protected by executive privilege. so the energy department, as we've seen others, won't comply with the subpoena for documents. does that strategy hold? >> it depends on what the goal of the strategy is. i think ultimately the courts will find that those documents, or a substantial fraction of them, are not covered by executive privilege in of -- particularly in the face of an impeachment inquiry. and the precedence is quite helpful to congress. the real question is how long does it take. we all know congressional calculus. we know the math that the democrats have to convince 20 senators to remove trump from office, if you're following impeachment through to its legal conclusion. and the republicans will be trying to run -- run the clock out to the point where it all gets tied up into the election. and you can turn it into a purely political issue, rather than being a question of propriety. if that's the strategy on the

administration's side, to run the clock out, to run it through the court as slowly as possible, it might succeed. as i said, i do think the courts ultimately would remove such documents within the purview of congress to request or order their release. but the delay strategy may bear fruit. >> thank you again for that. that's the political news here state side. but cnn is across the pond and live in london. where again, the question is will boris johnson be able to get his brexit deal over the hump? will he get the votes to beat the brexit deadline before october 31st? our teams are on the ground. we'll have the story for you live. and the rugby world cup heats up with the quarterfinals rounds. we'll take you live to tokyo. we'll take a look at heavyweights taking the pitch today in japan. stay with us. excuse me, where is gate 87? you should be mad at non-seasoned travelers. and they took my toothpaste away. and you should be mad at people who take unnecessary risks.

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the middle of it all, live in tokyo, to talk about super saturday. tell us more about what's happening with that england/australia game? >> george, it's shaping up to be a super saturday as you say. ware at the business end of the tournament. we just witnessed the clash of two rugby teams here between japan and england. we thought this was a game of narrow margins, perhaps even suffocatingly tight. instead, it was all tight. two conversions actually gave england a comfortable cushion. as much at one point, 11 points down, trading the english. the english have a habit of choking in the second half. the australians have a habit of chasing them down. that is not what we saw in this game. the green and gold could not compete. with the rugby world cup entering on a whimper, the final score 40-16 to england. it means, george, that england

has now defeated australia seven times in a row. and the last time australia -- or england actually beat australia in the world cup there, she reached the final in 2007. and of course, won it in history in 2003. they're the only team on the hemisphere to do it. they will go on to face new zealand or ireland. that game due to kick off here in 30 minutes' time. >> that particular game was mentioned in the halls of part as they discussed brexit. christina, to get your thoughts about the all blacks versus ireland, how is that shaping up? >> yes, well, it's going to be another cracker, george. we're standing here about to go in. for an unprecedented third straight rugby world cup crown here in japan this year. it's been 12 years, since the all blacks have been beaten at the world cup. ireland by contrast have never

got further than the quarterfinals of the world cup and they've never beaten the southern hemisphere side since 2011. but they actually defeated new zealand two out of three times that they played them in the last year. there was discipline on the defensive side who will certainly try to slow the all blacks' pace down. and obviously, the mix is there are two legendary coaches playing for their careers, joe schmidt and steve hansen, both set to move on after the world ruby cup. it's interesting to see who will get it tonight, george. >> christina, we'll stay in touch with you. let's cross over now live to london, our teams on the ground there. richard quest following the story. whether the british prime minister will make it over the hump. and does he get the votes? what's it look like so far, richard? >> that's a very good question. earlier, i suggested he was

getting the votes and it looks like possibly he would get them, george. as always, as in life, anything you need to know just -- and by the way, i've got a question that you want answered, you can tweet me @richardquest. my digital device is many. and you can tweet me @richardquest. i'll do my best to answer you. anna stewart, he's extraordinaire in terms of the vote numbers today. >> yes, i've had my calculator out and trying to see if boris johnson can get the magic number of 320 votes. >> ben, you may have heard him, he said he might have got it done? >> it's shifted but i will say it's too close to call. but here is what's changed

today, the erg, the hardline team who does not support theresa may some of them are in government, but a tweet to say that the erg recommends mps vote for this deal. this is a big development. they are not a homogeneous group. but if some come on board, they'll be for boris johnson. >> he has opposition? >> this takes into account other mps or abstaining votes. >> is there any feeling similarly to what we had that with the voting, because let's just get brexit done? let's get brexit done, rather than some deeply held belief one way or the other? that doesn't apply to the erg but the labor. >> no, the labor. we had in the last vote, we had 19 who wrote to the eu leader saying we want to do it by the

end of october, because they're worried about their constituencies because some of them voted for brexit. we shthose voting abstaining. take that into account, abstaining or labor or erg, it will be very close. >> right, but we won't get that vote before we've had the letwin vote. and the letwin vote, as that passes, withdraws all of this for an extension. >> we'll talk about that later in the week. >> anna stewart with the numbers, as they look at the moment. now, if you're joining us in the united states, "new day" is ahead for you. as we continue here in london. the debate continues. we've yet to get to the amendment. and that, of course, is the final vote in itself. because the news never stops. neither do we. this is cnn.

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