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good days, you have bad days. >> the couple is set to start their hiatus from royal duties next month. it's unclear how long they plan to stay away from the public eye. to our viewers, thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett out front starts right now. toughen up, president trump's message to republicans. will it work? plus the first republican to call for impeachment and then he had to leave the party. what's justin amash's next move? then elizabeth warren says she has a plan to pay for medicare for all. what is it? let's go out front. good evening. i'm erin burnett. out front tonight, president trump slamming republicans, saying democrats are more loyal to each other. accusing his party of not being tough and not standing by him. >> they have to get tougher and fight because the democrats are trying to hurt the republican party for the election, which is
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coming up. they don't have mitt romney in their midst. they don't have people like that. they stick together. you never see them break off. >> that is how trump is trying to motivate republicans to defend himself against mounting impeachment investigation, an investigation which is about to hear from a star witness, trump's top diplomat in ukraine, bill taylor, who will defy trump's efforts to stay silent and testify behind closed doors. taylor could be one of the biggest threats to trump's presidency at this time. what he says tomorrow could cause more cracks to emerge in the republicans firewall. taylor texted this to the ambassador to the eu, quote as i said on the phone i think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with the political campaign. it is that line that says it all, right? withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign. it is a definition of a self
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dealing quid pro quo. and trump knows that those republicans that he's worried about breaking off will be listening to taylor's every word. >> i want to hear what ambassador taylor has had to say. >> withholding funds to a particular nation, one that's under military threat, to fulfill a political promise is clearly a problem. >> trump is feeling the pressure as he hears people like rooney, romney and others raise red f g flags, that his go-to defense may not hold up, even with republicans. >> no quid pro quo. there's no quid pro quo. no quid pro quo. no quid pro quo. no quid pro quo. >> of course, as we've seen that defense has been decimated by trump's chief of staff, by trump's phone call with ukraine's president where he asked for, quote, a favor, where the ukrainian brought up military aid and, of course, by trump's own public comments on
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camera. >> what exactly did you hope zelensky would do about biden after the phone call? >> well, i would think if they were honest about it, they would start a major investigation into the bidens. >> boris sanchez is live outside of the white house. boris, clearly, he's nervous, stressed, going after his own party today. >> that's right, erin. the president sounding lonely today, complaining about unity within his own party. the president here attacking democrats, saying they're vicious, lousy politicians, but then sounding a bit envious, and that they don't have a mitt romney. this is all happening at a delicate moment for this white house. in recent weeks republicans have struggled to defend this president not only over his actions with the president of ukraine but also his decision to
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host the g7 at his golf property in doral florida, something else that republicans struggled to back him up on. he abandoned the g7 plans this weekend but the feeling is still there. the president recognizes that these voices being critical of him, he will need to defend him at a very important time because some of these same voices will be the only thing that stands between trump and a potential early end to his presidency. erin? >> boris, thank you very much. out front now, democratic congressman mike quigley, who sits on the house committee, which will interview bill taylor tomorrow. good to have you with me, congressman. what are your key questions for bill taylor? >> obviously a witness to the scheme. what else did he see? who else was involved? what don't we know? i think you're right. he text what most americans are thinking. it's crazy to have a quid pro quo involving military aid.
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it's also extraordinarily wrong. and who else might have stepped up and said the same thing? in the text he alludes to a phone call. as we said on the phone, who else did he talk to to say this? and i guess and finally, why aren't there more whistle blowers? why didn't more people step up and say this is horribly wrong? we can't do this. the american people need to know. >> it certainly sounds like, congressman, that -- look, this is -- the response to this text was from gordon sondland, essentially dictated by the president when sondland responds there's no quid pro quo. this sounds like an honest text, not one necessarily sent thinking it was going to see the light of day if you know what i'm saying, as opposed to the response of sondland, clearly dictated by the president. yet someone who wanted to create a record. >> i see that. in the light of day looking years, months and years back,
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sometimes a text or some sort of message makes sense in one manner or another. the fact is he said the right thing at the right time. and i do believe in my heart of hearts there's more people out there like him. each witness sometimes leads us to other information, other people who might testify. and that's why these ongoing depositions matter so much. what else do we need to know? i think the american public has the majority of the case in front of them. >> certainly from the transcript which is public, they do, right? they saw military aid brought up by the ukrainian president and the response from president trump, but first a favor. this text predated any public knowledge of that transcript. this is what somebody thought thinking none of this would ever see the light of publicity. the deposition schedule, congressman, for this week appears to be shrinking, one source telling cnn that some witnesses may have been removed because they still need to find counsel so then they've got to
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cancel, pushing dates out. no depositions will be held thursday and friday due to honoring the late chairman elijah cummings of oversight. are you going to get all of this done, the people you need to interview, and get a vote on impeachment articles before thanksgiving? >> i think that's quite possible. certainly delays won't be attributed to us. i do want to stress this. what we talked about, the case has been made. it is resonating with the american people. it's not just the transcript and the complaint. it's the text. and, oh, by the way, the admission by mr. mulvaney and the president himself in his own public comments. what we need to do is build this case, solidify it. none of these cases have contradicted anything in the complaint. they've done nothing but corroborate. they feed into each other. this won't be easy. there is obstruction. if the president thinks he can halt this investigation through obstruction, he may hurt one element but is certainly
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building a stronger case for obstruction. >> the republicans are fighting back, how they try to force a floor vote to censure adam schiff for misconduct, his paraphrasing the phone call between trump and the ukrainian president. the president tweeted this today, censure at least adam schiff. are you listening, dems? >> he has the complete backing of the caucus and the american public trust him. i've watched him for three years now lead us in extraordinary and complicated leadership position in the russia investigation and now ukraine. don't let the republicans do what they're trying to do here. they're trying to deflect. they're talking about process. they're talking about adam schiff because they don't want to talk about the president, what he did and his abuse of
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power. >> congressman, before we go, i want to ask you about something else that the president talked about today, the accusation by hillary clinton against your fellow sitting congresswoman, 2020 presidential candidate tulsi gabbard. clinton said the russians are grooming her as a third party trt to be a russian asset. here is what trump said today. >> hillary clinton, have you heard of her? she's the one accusing everybody of being a russian agent. anybody that is opposed to her is a russian agent. that's a scam that was pretty much put down. tulsi, i don't know tulsi. she's not a russian agent. >> congressman, do you think congresswoman gabbard is a russian asset, that she's being used by russians? >> i simply don't have any knowledge or information on this, partly because i've been focused on this. and the fact of the matter is, hillary clinton has a right to
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be upset. the russians had a full-throttle attack on her and the intelligence community agreed all 17 entities with a high level of certainty that the russians attacked her, attacked the democratic process to help -- >> does that justify what she did, though, to congresswoman gabbard? >> i have no idea whether or not that's accurate. i can only reflect on the matters that have been before me that i have knowledge of. if it's accurate, she has every right to confront her with that. and the russians will try to make an asset of anyone that they possibly can. >> all right. congressman, quickly, i appreciate your time. of course, i should note that hillary clinton did not put forth any evidence or proof of her comments the other day. out front next, more republicans speaking out against the white house, raising concerns about trump's acting chief of staff. mick mulvaney, is he out? now trump railing against the impeachment, calling it
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new tonight, president trump slamming democrats over their house impeachment inquiry, calling it crap and illegitimate. >> it's a very bad thing what they're doing. the president of the united states should be allowed to run the country not focus on this kind of crap. it's so illegitimate. it can't be the way that the founder, our great founders meant this to be. >> gloria borger, political editor for "the new york times," patrick healy and former senior council for whitewater
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investigation of president clinton, paul rosenswag. crap, illegitimate, couldn't be what our founders wanted. your reaction? >> i think that's the opposite of the truth. when you look at the united states constitution, it talks about impeachment and gives the power to the house to conduct an impeachment inquiry. it's clear that the president doesn't like what's happening. to actually say that the u.s. constitution and what it allows for is crap and illegitimate, i can't believe we're having this conversation in many ways. >> biography on hamilton used for the broadway musical, he says hamilton, who was a defender of executive power, would have supported impeaching donald trump. he cites one of his federalist papers where hamilton writes, in part, when a man unprincipled in his private life, desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity to
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take every opportunity to embarrass the general government and bring it under suspicion, it may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may ride the storm and direct the whirlwind. warning such a leader will become a demagogue and tyrant. does it sound like hamilton, even so long ago, could have been warning about a person like president trump, paul? >> he's warning about an authoritarian populist who destroys american institutions as a way of maintaining power and cowing his political opposition. he was experienced with that in his times. as ann said, i can't imagine how anyone could think that a process that is explicitly provided for as a check against abuse of authority was, itself,
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an illegitimate act of congress. it boggles the mind. >> president trump railing against the impeachment inquiry. meantime he's refusing to back the person who should be leading his fight, right, his cal vary, who was leading it, acting chief of staff mick mulvaney. obviously we are understanding that trump is increasingly frustrated with mulvaney's inability, as trump sees it, to communicate on impeachment. >> you said it happens all the time. >> go back and watch what i said before. i don't know if you can queue it up or not. there was a long answer about corruption. there was never any connection between the flow of money and the -- >> mick, i hate to go through this, but you said what you said. >> he did. to queue the point, gloria, here is what mulvaney said. >> he also mentioned to me that the corruption related to the dnc server, absolutely, no question about that. but that's it.
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that's why we held up the money. >> so the demand for an investigation into the democrats was part of the reason that he -- to withhold funding to ukraine? >> the look back to 2016 was certainly part of the thing he was worried about. we do all the time with foreign polic policy. >> it's two parts, gloria. is mulvaney a dead man walking, and if not mulvaney to lead the cal vary, who? >> if he's not a dead man walking, he certainly doesn't feel well today. the president, as you were saying, has grown increasingly frustrated with him. when mulvaney first went out there, he thought it was fine. then he was watching all the press. he may have watched the chris wallace interview, who knows. he has grown to believe that mulvaney did not do a good job. that's a problem. he's hearing it from republicans
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on capitol hill, who are pretty outspoken, that mulvaney did not do a good job. these things will build and mulvaney will probably leave. i've been told that they were looking to replace him before this even occurred. >> here is the thing. when you talk about who is leading this, john cornyn, senior republican, said, quote, i wish the chief of staff wasn't holding press conferences, maybe have your past secretary do that. have you heard of that before? secondly that is a slam and a level of sarcasm or snark coming from a very senior republican senator. >> yeah. and this is john cornyn comes from the same wing of the party that mick mulvaney comes from. these are not people you would think would be on the opposite side of the fence.
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>> mick mu will. v an. ey admitting to a quid pro quo. >> while the president was shouting to the mountain tops, maybe not cornyn. >> it looks like we got was the truth from mick mulvaney in terms of quid pro quo and issues of the doral club that was going to be used for the g7. side issues that republicans on the hill feel like there's no sense of cover. whether the communications director or press secretary would be better at it with with
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this white house. >> where the person who is the only person who speaks on this is the president. >> i think that's right. what's interesting is mulvaney in his press conference came closest to saying what the president has been saying about the conversation with zelensky, but trump has never said no quid pro quo. to patrick's point, the challenge here is that their whole defense and the defense has changed a million times. it is still some version of no quid pro quo like there was no collusion with mueller. and then for the chief of staff to go out and say there is a quid pro quo. again i think there is a quid pro quo and i would argue you don't even need that. for that to be an admission is an extraordinary thing. >> gloria? >> can i say that none of this public reaction from cornyn and others -- today, you have mitt romney. it doesn't happen in a vacuum. there's a lot of stuff coming at them. also syria, which ways heavily
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on them. they've been very outspoken about it. you put it all together, donald trump has a lot of political loyalty because he is popular with the republican base but has absolutely no personal loyalty from any of these republicans. and if he were to tank in popularity, they would go their own way in a minute. and we'll have to say what happens, but you can just sense that frustration on capitol hill. >> certainly, paul, his defense, right, when he said no quid pro quo, obviously then he himself in that publicly said i hope they investigate the bidens, never mind mick mulvaney. then he calls the whole thing a hoax and slammed the whistle-blower, which he tried to do dpen here today. >> what happened to the whistle-blower? they're gone because they've been discredited. these whistle-blowers, they have them like they're angels, okay? so do we have to protect somebody that gave a totally false account of my
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conversation? i don't know. you tell me. >> paul, of course, the problem is that he keeps saying that, but it does not seem to be falling on ears -- welcoming ears, even among republicans, right? they all know what's in the whistle-blower's report has been backed up by the transcript birks the president's own words, by mick mulvaney. yet that's still the best defense he has, is to say don't look behind the curtain. >> it really strikes me -- sometimes i wonder what color the sky is in the president's world. he lives in a fantasy bubble where all the true facts of the whistle-blower has put out not just a summary of the conversation, but that the transcript had been moved to a highly classified server, have been repeatedly confirmed. he also ignores what i think is the fundamental problem, which is that whistle-blowers are not the precipient witnesses. the actual witnesses are people like volker and sondland and taylor, who we'll hear from
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tomorrow. and the transcript itself. it doesn't matter what the whistle-blower says. >> that's right. what matters is what the truth is. the truth, of course, has hap n happen happened exactly as the whistle-blower alleged. next, trump telling republicans to stick together. will they? justin amash speaks out next, out front. plus president trump calling the constitution phone. >> i you people with this phony clause. patterns. you can see what others can't. ♪
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>> i think they're lousy politicians, but two things they have. they're vicious and they stick together. they don't have mitt romney in their midst. they don't have people like that. they stick together. you never see them break off. >> out front now, one of the republicans who did break off. he is now an independent. congressman justin amosh of michigan who supports impeaching the president. when you made that choice you had to, quote, unquote, break off, as the president, i suppose, would describe it, congressman. you used to be a republican. you had to leave the party in july when you made it clear where you stood on impeachment. do you think if trump talks the way he did today that he will get other republicans to stay in line and back him? >> i think a lot of republicans are scared of the president or at least scared of republican primary voters. i had problems with the party going back for several years with the party system. i think when the president says
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the democrats are different, vicious and they stick together, i think he's just talking. i think that republicans have their own viciousness and their own sticking together that happens. and sometimes he just projects as well. >> so, republican congressman, you raise the point about people being afraid of their own voters. so, congressman rooney, you know him, of course. he says he's now open to impeaching the president. immediately after he said that, he said he's not going to run for re-election. so, i guess my question to you is, can a republican support impeachment and get re-elected as a republican? >> i think so. it really depends on the context. if someone has been in office for several years, they could do that. and i could have run as a republican in my district and won the district. but i was really just tired of the two-party system and really think it's important to come to washington and present an alternative to the two parties. but i do think it's possible. the problem is that a lot of the
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republican members haven't been here long enough or they spent so much time with their partisan nonsense over the years that it's really hard for them to win the trust of voters if they are going to break from the president. so, most of them will stay with him. i would be surprised if, at this point, more than a couple of people broke off, if any. >> great context. because you would know this better than anyone. lo look, president trump impugns the impeachment process every chance he gets. as you know, i know, as everyone watching knows. here is what he said about it today. >> it's so illegitimate. it cannot be the way the founders, our great founders, meant this to be. >> congressman you're a lawyer. you describe yourself as a strict constitutionalist. when the president of the united states describes this process as illegitimate and not what the great founders meant it to be, what do you respond? >> he's wrong. the process for impeaching the president is in the constitution and that it's left up to the
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house to conduct the impeachment, which is like the indictment. and the senate conducts the trial. the house and senate design their own rules for the process. so, he's just wrong about it. it's' constitutional process. and i think again he's lashing out at anything and now he's lashing out at the constitution. >> you served with the white house chief of staff mick mulvaney. you were active members of the freedom caucus. you worked together. he is struggling to explain why he clearly admitted, proudly admitted a quid pro quo on ukraine and then claimed he never said what he said as you heard chris wallace say. here is one of the president's biggest supporters had to say about mick mulvaney. >> what is mulvaney even talking about? i think he's dumb. i really do. i don't think he knows what he's talking about. that's my take on it. >> what's your take on it? >> well, hannity is wrong.
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mick mulvaney is a bright guy, one of the smartest members i've ever served with. he's a good guy. i like mick a lot. we're friends. but i think anyone working in this administration is going to have a hard time explaining what's going on you're asking a lot of these officials to go out on stage and keep things straight. he was telling the truth, there was a quid pro quo. then he went back and realized that's not what the president wants to hear. >> and now has to play cleanup. you're saying these guys, people around the president, are now essentially being -- they're forced to lie. >> convey. it's a shame. and i think they know better and deep down, they wish they weren't, you know, trapped in this position. and i hear that from my
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colleagues on the house floor. and frankly the retirements we're hearing about are people trying to ride out this president and may think about coming back into public office once this president is gone. >> the president talked about syria today. it's a topic you care deeply about. here is what he said about isis. >> i'm the one that did the capturing. i'm the one who knows more about it than you people or the fake pundits. >> does he deserve the credit for the capturing of isis fighters? >> no. i mean, he is always taking credit for what our brave men and women in the armed forces are doing. he has unleashed real problems right now by not planning ahead. you know, i'm not for having our troops in syria. i would have withdrawn the troops long ago if i were president. but i would have had a plan ahead of time to do it without creating chaos. and he didn't plan ahead at all. >> congressman amash, appreciate your time as always. thanks, sir.
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>> thanks so much, erin. up next, trump claims he's so rich he doesn't need to promote his properties. so then why did he do this today? >> i have a place that's in the best location. it would have been the greatest g7 ever. plus one 2020 candidate riding a post-debate wave of attention. are voters taking notice? >> for the first time i thought she came across as being a lot more forceful. she was a force to reckon with. t-mobile's newest signal reaches farther than ever before. with more engineers. more towers. more coverage! it's a network that gives you ♪freedom from big cities, to small towns, we're with you. because life can take you almost anywhere,
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new tonight, the president of t mocking one part of the constitution of the united states. >> you people with this phony monuments clause. >> it's not phony. it's there. gifts from foreign governments. it's concerns that many republicans have about the white house when they announced next year's g7 would be held at trump's doral resort. he was forced to reverse that decision but it did not stop him today since the cameras were rolling, to do this. >> doral was a simple situation. i have a place in the best location. everybody in the g7 would have had their own building. it's a beautiful place.
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it's new. everything is good. it's only minutes away. it would have been the greatest g7 ever. >> gloria, patrick, ann and paul are back with me. you could see there were some flashes in there, because he kept going on and on and on and on. he went into a sales pitch for the doral. >> he can't help himself. he plays golf at his golf resorts every weekend. this is a president, and i think it was mulvaney who said it, who still believes he's in the hospitality business. it's a big part of who he is. and he doesn't understand, i guess, what seemed obvious to everybody, including his republicans in congress, was that this was a violation of the emoll emoliumence clause. the optics are bad.
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it looks bad this is his private company. he does make money off of it still. so i don't understand why, you know, anybody inside the white house would have said to the president when he thought this was a great idea, yeah, this is better than those other dozen places we were talking about. this is a great thing to do. >> you know, paul, the emolumentes clause, no person holding any office of profit or trust under them shall, without the consent of congress, offer anything to any king, prince or foreign state. phony, paul? >> not phony. obviously text of the constitution. its origins were at the heart of the american revolution and our fear of foreign interference in america's democracy. it was written precisely to prevent then much larger european nations from using
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their wealth, their power, their influence, the offer of titles or money to try and buy america's affection. so, what we're seeing or what we might have seen at the doral is almost at the very core of what drove the inclusion of that clause in the constitution. to say it's phony is almost to say that the entire constitution is phony, which makes, i guess, president trump a phony president. >> and this is something to be said for when he doesn't like something, it's phony or it's fake. and i suppose that's part of the reason i had the tone i had when i said it. this is what it says. it is the constitution of the united states. >> absolutely. >> if you are a believer in the system and a believer in this religion called democracy that we have created in this country, you can't call that phony. >> absolutely. and the whole point of the constitution is we're a nation of laws, not of men. and the problem here -- and i think it's worth stopping on this for a second. the emoluments clause is meant
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to prevent political corruption, self dealing. this is a textbook example of what that would have been. the president would personally have profited. when he's called out on it, he's trying to undercut the very document at the core of our democracy. he's going against the constitution when it's plain as day this is political corruption. >> patrick, this comes as -- look, i think we would all know how mitt romney would like vote on impeachment, reading the federalists papers, and others reading the constitution. do you think that many of them are doing that with truly genuine intent. >> uh-huh. >> meaning to actually read and understand to cast their vote or are they -- i don't mean to say they're not genuine, but are they saying that to give themselves cover for protecting him? >> i think we're a ways away from a senate trial. that looks like that's where
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we're going. at least for some republican senators, romney, murkowski, probably susan collins and some others, they're going to be going back to founding documents. if they're going to really weigh seriously whether the president has violated his oath of office, violated his duties under the constitution, they're going to want to be bulletproof on that. and i think you're going to have people looking at what was spelled out. what sort of the clear lines of law were. and the degree to which the president, as ann said, it's sort of gross violation of self dealing and clearly someone who, whether he wanted to make a buck or not, saw his property as the best and said this is where everybody should stay. i think it sort of speaks for itself. >> thank you all very much. next, 2020 candidate amy klobuchar hitting back at elizabeth warren to suggest she's not thinking big enough.
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tonight elizabeth warren backed against a wall, the 2020 presidential candidate announced she will soon release a plan to fund her medical camedicare for all proposal. among them senator amy klobuchar who is now hoping her attacks will propel her in the polls. jeff zeleny is out front. >> reporter: senator amy klobuchar is on the move, with no time to mince words or hold back. she's racing across iowa trying to turn her moment on last week's debate stage. >> i want to give a reality check to elizabeth. >> reporter: into momentum on the campaign trail. it's clear she's tapping into
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something. >> how do you plan to address all the free stuff other candidates are promoting, nothing in life is free? >> okay. well, there we go. well, we're going to give you all a free chocolate chip cookie when you leave, no. >> reporter: at a town hall meeting in davenport, that question was submitted by a retired teacher who likes what she hears from klobuchar. >> and elaborate who you're talking about when you say free stuff. >> i'm talking about bernie, i'm talking about elizabeth warren, and how college is going to be free, how health care is going to be free. i'm sorry, we can't do that. >> reporter: a fresh sense of urgency is surrounding klobuchar's candidacy as she scrambles to qualify for the november debate. still an underdog, her confidence is rising. >> and i am a boss, i mean, come on. >> reporter: we rode along to ask about her increasingly point pointed message toward her
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rivals. >> that's why i get concerned when some of the other candidates are making promises that i don't think that they can keep. >> you're saying that elizabeth warren and bernie sanders are not being straight with people by how they would pay for all these programs? >> yes. >> have you made that case to some of those progressive voters who say now is the time to think big? >> yeah, but i'm thinking big, too. >> essentially senator warren said you're not thinking big enough, not thinking bold enough. >> i guess big enough only means that everything's free? is that what it means? >> reporter: there's little doubt warren and sanders have stirred louder enthusiasm. klobuchar is testing the appetite for a moderate message. she's signing up voters one tate, making the case democrats must choose a candidate who can win in trump country. >> for the first time i thought she came across as being a lot more forceful. she was a force to reckon with. becky took notice of klobuchar last week and contributed to her campaign. she's one of the new donors who helped klobuchar raise more than a million dollars in the first
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24 hours after the debate. >> i liked what she had to say that she was more centrist. she wasn't afraid to go up against elizabeth warren. >> senator klobuchar again and again tells voters that she is the one who can beat president trump because she has won in minnesota in trump country. first she must win that democratic primary. such an interesting argument going back and forth between her and senator warren. it pushed senator warren in iowa to say she will release a plan to say how she's paying for medicare for all. amy klobuchar says if she had a good plan, we would have seen it by now. to be continued. >> jeff zeleny thank you very much. up next, mitt romney's secret twitter account exposed. why did he go with the name pierre delecto. [ slurping ]
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egos, here's jeanne. >> if you think the name mitt fits romney like a glove, you haven't heard his alias. >> pierre delecto. >> back to pierre delecto. >> but first, back to mitt romney's secret twitter account, a reporter for slate dug it up after romney mentioned it in "the atlantic" and romney con firld the accou firmed the account. >> he gave me a two word response which means it's me. >> it was a twitter account intended mostly for following others, as romney told "the atlantic," what do they call me? a lurker? he didn't tweet much, but liked quite a few a things. >> i like what i like. unfortunately there's not a dislike button. >> the fake name pierre delecto turned out to be the most delectable part of the story, pierre delecto is an objectively terrific fake name, pierre delecto is french for peter delight. he had a beret and mustache
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slapped on him. pierre delecto is the best pseudonym since carlos danger, dare you forget, that was antho anthony weiner's sexting alias. letterman even dreamed up ten other anthony weiner pseudonyms. >> he's joined by pierre delecto in the pantheon of aliases where donald trump is enshrined with three. >> david dennison, is that an alias for president donald trump? >> young donald trump was known for calling reporters pretending to be a spokesman for himself. >> what's your first name? >> john. >> john. >> john barren and pierre delecto have been rough on each other. >> donald trump is a phony, a fraud. >> romney choked like a dog, he went. >> the bullying, the greed, the showing off. >> he was begging for my endorsement. i could have said, mitt, drop to
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your knees. he would have dropped to his knees. >> maybe only if you called him pierre delecto, jeanne moos cnn. >> oh, yeah. >> new york. >> thank you for joining us, anderson starts now. good evening, all roads lead to putin. that is what house speaker nancy pelosi famously said about president trump. tonight there's breaking news on what could be yet another road. "the washington post" tonight reporting on conversations the president had with vladimir putin and hungarian prime minister. the post headline, putin and hungary's orban helped sour trurp on ukraine, according to the report, the conversations reinforced president trump's perception of corruption in ukraine. the post reports neither orb a, n nor putin encouraged the president to see ukraine adds a source of dirt on
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