intd of angry republicans demanding a more open impeachment process. >> show your face. >> stuff your face was the order of the day. jeannecnn, new york. >> anderson starts now. good evening, we begin the program last night saying that yesterday could prove to be one of the most consequential days in donald trump as presidency. today could prove to be one of the weirdest because the day after the diplomat and five decades long public servant laid out the ukraine quid pro quo to house impeachment committee members about two dozen conservative republican lawmakers decided to engage in a publicly stunt storming the scif where a senior pentagon official deputy assistant second laura cooper was about to testify to republican and democratic

lawmakers some held up phones to record the storming of the secure room and held up paroledings for five years demanding to witness the testimony campaigning complaining about the due. and the way the hearings are being run. keeping them honest there are several reasons why the complaints do not add up. for one, it's not like republicans are being locked out. as long as they're members of the appropriate three committees there's not a democratic star chamber. there are republicans in the room listening to all this testimony. nor are closed door proceedings anything new bau back when republicans controlled the house poerks resist of the benghazi hearing were conducted that way. tre gowdy escorted republican darrylisa afterisa tried to crash it. and here is congressman gowdy back then extolling the virtue of the secret proceedings. >> let me ask you this, what serious finder of fact can you name that identifies information in five minute increments and does it on television?

and then flip from one side to the other? i mean the grand jury doesn't do it. the local sheriff does doesn't. the united states attorney doesn't do it. >> so that's then congressman gowdy defending the very thing the republican congress members were protesting today supposedly. now by the way it's a security violation to bring phones in a secure room. when you're desperate for attention and member of congress apparently security regulations don't apply. today, the president tried to rebut the time line of the ukraine quid pro quo arguing that there is no way it was a quid pro quo because the ukrainians had no idea the aid was being held up. he tweeted out a quote from a republican congressman on fox and friends reading he taylor neuroknow witness that has provided them that the ukrainians were award military aid was being held you can't have the quid pro quo with no quo. that's not true when a small country is reliant on military aid from a big country and not received the aid even if any expect it's coming doesn't mean

they can't be made to feel beholden to the larger country. not lange long after the president pushed the idea the ukraine want aware. it "the new york times" showed through documents that yeah the ukrainianens knew by early august. also tonight there is new cnn reporting bringing you the later on in the broadcast that ukraine's president was actually feeling pressure as far back as early may to publicly investigate the company tide to joe biden's son. and of course there is the taylor testimony which even some republicans concede was damaging. senator john no one of south dakota saying although hard in his words to draw hard and fast conclusions, the picture from initial reports was quote in his words not a good one. short time ago laura cooper wrapped up her testimony. joining us with sun of laundromats in the room not in protest. ro khanna. thanks for being with us. how much did you learn from laura cooper today?

because mark meadows says there was no ah-ha moment was that your take away. >> based on the public information i think there is further evidence that here there was a quid pro quo, that the president basically is withholding aid, zelensky is told, you have to have a public press conference announcing a investigation into joe biden. and that's completely unacceptable. >> congressman meadows also said that some of cooper's testimony conflicted with whatwards taylor told congress yesterday. is that accurate. >> well, you know, i'm going to follow the rules, anderson. and unlike others not be commenting on things that were not supposed to comment on. but based on the public testimony here is what we know. there is a lot of reason for other people to come in and clarify their previous testimony because what you have on mr. taylor's testimony, which i think on the public reporting is most explosive, he says the

president basically ordered or directed zelensky to investigate biden and we were at a stalemate if he wasn't doing, the aid wasn't getting to him. >> cooper only testified i think for three and a half hours. a lot of the other witnesses obviously sat longer. did the five-hour delay because of the strange publicity stunt by some republicans, did that impact the length of her testimony? i mean, were you able to get through everything you wanted to find out from her? >> we got through everything. but i want to focus on this publicity step up to the plate. it was more than a publicity stunt. in this country we have a rule of law not rule by mob. no one can go in a city council meeting and obstruct the proceedings. nobody can go to a school board meeting and obstruct the proceedings ob obstruct the proceedings in court. i don't understand why being a member of congress gives you a right to obstruct the rule of law. and as you pointed out, you know, in benghazi, there were

these depositions in the scif, the democrats participated. we thought it was total bogus, the investigation against hillary clinton but not a single democrat was thinking of disrupting the proceedings. this is contrary to everything the country stand ares for when to interrupt the proceedings when the republicans have every due process. >> can you splap what it was like in the room? did they just barge into the room? were some yemg? i read some report that louis gomert was yelling. >> they barged in mel brooks was outside yelling in the cameras. later on there were pizza boxes strewn all oefrp the scif. >> they brought pizza with them. >> there were pizza boxes. i was in and out but i went the later on with the deposition and there were piz aifr boxes there lying there that had eaten pizza. think about this. you know, if someone gets a

traffic ticket imagine -- and you think it's totally unjustified traffic ticket, the cop was wrong manning going to traffic court and you just went and created a parade, you started yelling. and you said this proceeding is ridiculous. i don't have enough rights. you'd be locked up. i guess the question is what makes someone who is a member of congress think that the rules don't apply to them, that they can just act whatever way they want? >> i mean, it's -- i guess maybe if the president tells you that's a great idea do it. it's like in a jury if friends and acolytes of the defendant storm the jury room and try to help the defendant. the sergeant at arms was asked to take action against the republicans breaching the scif. he don't specify what that looks like. some of the folks sent out videos of themselves violating

federal law. do you think. >> absolutely. >> do you think action will be taken. >> there should be consequences. these are the places where the most sensitive classified information is shared. no one -- everyone knows this, you are not allowed to take any electronic device. or comment anything about anything said there. yet you have people taking phones tweeting out about in, making a mockery of the process. and it's not just a mockery of the rule of law. think about in a sports game or something if you didn't like the call of the ref imagine someone storming the court or the field. we teach our kids this is not how america works. then you have elected officials thinking the rules don't apply. anderson, this is the problem with the president. he doesn't understand we live in a constitutional democracy where the rule of law matters more than any individual. and that's what we're losing in this country. >> i feel like -- i remember you know over the years you know

newscasts have played videos of politician in south korea fighting and/or in some eastern european country battling each other. and it seemed like a joke. can you believe that that would happen there? i mean, this is like one step toward that. i mean, who knows where we'll be a few months from tu now. congressman -- >> it was sad. i don't want to reveal who but i was in the elevator going back to the offs and you had members of congress yelling at each other today which i've never seen before. usually people are civil. but there is a tension now that is really undermining the hauls of congress. and it's sad to see. >> well maybe that person didn't get enough pizza. congressman khanna. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> it's interesting how eveninger some are to blow o. listen to this with manu raju. >> i'm asking about the substance he said. >> don't make any difference we don't know whether what he said is true or or not because of the

sham system. we have a judicial system a became of rights guaranteed to process to fact finders have the best chance of reaching a conclusion. if you rely on bites bits on pieces do not allow cross-examination of witnesses or rebuttal witnesses then you're apt to be fooled. >> doesn't make any difference he said when asked about the substance of bill taylor's testimony. oerps including republican senator john no one seemed to believe otherwise. and plenty of republicans as we should mention are eager create distractions to it let's get perspective from author and analyst carl pots borntsen aen gloria borger and jeffery toobin. the oddest storming of a secure location i've seen. >> my favorite part of the protest was that several of the protesters were actually members of the committee who is were inside. so they had every right to be inside even though they were protesting. in that solidarity i am protesting my failure to be

allowed on ac 360 while being on ac 360. that's the level of protest we saw today. consider that. >> carl, have you -- is it just a publicity stunt? is it just, you know, a sign of where we're headed? what do you make of it. >> i think it's an indication of the total lack of interest in the republicans in the house and senate at getting at the truth and confronting the abuse of power by the president of the united states. we have a situation now that there are three things happening at the same time with the president. he is undermined the national security of the united states by engaging a foreign power to subvert our american electoral process. he has gone into turkey and endangered our national security there. and allowed the russians once again almost inexplicably to be the winners.

he is behaving and in conducting himself in a way that republicans themselves especially talking with reporters privately are questioning his sanitiy and stability. all this happening at once. and at some point the republicans are going to have to confront the fact that he has abused the power of the presidency, that there is a really strong case for high crimes here. and they're going to have to confront that reality and look down the road about knows republicans who don't confront it. >> gloria, the fact that this whole stunt comes the day after the most damaging testimony to date hardly seems like a coincidence. i mean it seems like a presidential play to steal back the narrative and have this be the story that overshadows what the -- you know, the devastating testimony from yesterday. >> sure, yeah. it's about deflecting and changing the subject. and don't forget, dana bash reported today that the president was in on this, that

in whole stunt had his blessing, that informs performance art, performed for of an audience of one. and that's donald trump. and that these are people, don't forget, who know the rules of the house. who have a certain amount of clearance and maybe now they'll lose their security clearance. i have -- i have no idea since any brought in re telephones into the scif and damaged the integrity of the scif, many believe. >> but if they were a low level, you know, member of the military, without a high rank or even any rank and any did that, their career would be destroyed. >> destroyed and instead there were people in there recording. >> yeah. >> and tweeting it out. >> on their phones. and this is a serious issue of course when they concocted it with the blessing ever the president many might have had no idea or even worse maybe some of them did. >> but remember -- i'm sorry just, the president's twitter feed today he threatened

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cnn he is rene marsh has the details what have you learned. >> he we learned two weeks before zelensky was sworn in, the new leader and his team discussed the pressure they were feeling from the trump administration and president president trump's personal attorney rouge to essentially launch investigations into corruption cases, including barisma, which is the energy company that joe biden's son hunter was on the board for, the source saying that the meeting was originally supposed to be discussing issues surrounding energy. but eventually evolved into discussing this pressure that zelensky was already feeling before he was officially even in office and this meeting went on for some three hours with the zelensky trying to figure out how does he navigate this and what should he do about it? >> this was before he became president? >> right, this was before he became officially sworn in. >> months before he had the phone call at the end of july

with president trump and now the phone call which we have seen the transcript or the rough transcript of. >> absolutely. and two weeks before he initially had a first call with the president. so just two weeks prior to in meeting trump and zelensky did have a phone call. it was the president calling to congratulate him on his win, this happened on april 21st, after zelensky won the presidential election in ukraine. and we did get a white house readout of a call that said the two leaders discussed working together to root out corruption. however, what is unclear is whether the president in that april 21st phone call specifically asked for investigations into ukraine's role in the 2016 election or investigating barisma. that is unclear because we haven't seen the transcript from that april 21st call. >> you said there was -- you are saying there was a read outdifferent nan the rough -- kind of the rough transcript

that is done during the call. is that -- >> absolutely so we don't know verbatim exactly what was touched on in this call. we just know that on april 21st when zelensky won as president of ukraine the president according to the white house made a congratulatory call. and we know the issue of corruption was discussed. but we don't know much more beyond that. >> but according to your reporting zelensky already had met and knew that when the president -- or i guess when the president talked about corruption what giuliani and the president wanted was an investigation of biden. whether he -- instantly links that with corruption or not, we know he was already aware of what the president really wanted? >> yeah, i mean, by the time that zelensky called this may 7th meeting, where he was trag to figure out how do i deal with

the pressure from the trump administration, he clearly knew one very clear item here, which is the meeting he wanted to have with president trump, that face-to-face meeting. >> right. >> was at stake if he did not support an investigation into. >> got it. >> companies like barisma. >> renae thank you oech. back with carl bernstein, gloria borger, jeff toobin. the fact that the president is talking about no quid pro quo time line makes no sense. the fact before he is in offices feeling pressure from giuliani and trump world. >> you know, what's so extraordinary about in story is that every single piece so far fits together. now, usually not the case. usually there is sort of weird stray facts. everything that's coming out suggests that the only interest root of jowlny or donald trump or anyone allied with him in ukraine was getting dirt on the political opponents and figuring out what happened in 2016 with

the mysterious server. that's the only interest they had in ukraine. and every fact that has come out, whether it's from trump personally or through witnesses like taylor who had secondhand information, suggests the same thing. and this -- what rene's story gives us some sense of the origin of how early in the process in obsession with barisma and 2016 came up. >> gloria it's fascinating. you mention you got in president -- the guy who is, you know, not yet the president. >> right. >> he has no political experience. he was a comedian. and he -- he knows he needs u.s. aid. he is fighting russia. and he suddenly has giuliani kind of putting out feelers and whispering in people's ears in ukraine. it's got to be surreal. >> i'm sure it was surreal. i'm sure that's why they took hours talking about it instead

of energy policy. it's clear that the president knew exactly what donald trump wanted. a couple of things here, number one, in that easter sunday phone call rene talked about, what did the president exactly say to him? we don't have any idea. did the president talk about corruption and that zelensky knew what that meant because of other channels and other people he had spoken with? secondly, the interesting part about rene's reporting tonight is that republicans are saying you can't have a quid pro quo, not that you need it but but can't have a quid pro quo unless the ukrainians knew. >> right. >> about the pressure. in story shows, well, yes, the ukrainians did know. and they spent hours even before he was inaugurated trying to figure out what to do about it. >> carl, even if any did not know that immediately on that july -- late july phone call that the aid was being already held up, the fact gnat aid was not there and the president had

control of it and they desperately needed it. this is essentially a sword hanging over them. >> and you just described the high crime. you know, the impeachment claus of the constitution refers to treason, broibery and other hig crimes and misdemeanors. this is about bribery, this is about the president of the united states attempting to bribe another president of a foreign country by -- by with withholding aid. >> bribing without even his money. i mean he is bribing -- attempting to bribe with american taxpayer money. >> exactly. but bribery is the operative word. and we need to focus on it. i think in has something to do with why mitch mcconnell is moving away to some extent in denying that he spoke with the president about that phone call and why john thune is so worried. any understand the import of bribery as a high crime. and that looks like what has

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. as republicans stage theatrics on capitol hill to show the president how loyal they are. house democrat gird for the long combat etch impeachment process ahead. according to the "washington post" ner getting advice from lawrence tribe who authored the

book to end a presidency the pow of impeachment. recently add totd the house judiciary legal team and interestingly two of professor tribes former students lead the probe. adam schiff and jamie rascon. professor, you can't report on comment on dmungs with house democrats. but generally speaking are they on the right path with in impeachment inquiry? is the current course of action working the way it should. >> i think it is, anderson. and i maybe could begin where carl bernstein left off. this is bribery. but it's not just bribery. you know, it would be soliciting a bribe if the president said to president zelensky, you know, if you do me a favor, maybe give me a few bucks, stay at the doral hotel for example, i'll give you a signed copy of the art of the

deal and let you take a photo-op with me. that's not what's going on. what's going on, is our president is saying to president zelensky, you are under attack by russia with russian tanks. your people are dying. and i'll let that go on and hold off the aid that our congress has voted unless and until you go on tv and announce that you are investigating my opponent joe biden and his son hunter with barisma. i mean, that is an extraordinary thing. he is stealing the taxpayer's money, use going it as though it were his. dangling it saying i won't let you have it even though you need it to survive unless you help me win. he is violating the separation of powers by usurping the power of the purse. he is not just brabing.

he is committing extorgs and abusing power in the most dramatic way. . if there were ever a model case for kbaech are impeach. able offense a high crime and misdemeanor that includes bribery this is it. i think that nancy pelosi was wise to hold off until she had what amounts to not just a smoking gun but a smoking mowitzer now she that is with the testimony we heard and i haven't heard all of it but just the prepared statement was dynamite from the former ambassador to ukraine. and that testimony established that this guy who is not a partisan -- he is half century, you know, civil servant he was in the 121st airborne. >> vietnam vet, west point graduate. >> you couldn't have a stronger -- stronger witness. so this is really it.

>> what do you make of the -- you know, the white house arguing that, well, the president of ukraine didn't know about -- that the aid had been held up in that late july phone call so therefore there was no pressure, no quid pro quo. just the logic of that argument does not make sense to me given the unequal balance ukraine is die being, zrit. the aid whether he knows it's held up or not. he knows the white house has a sword over his head. >> you're right about that, anderson. but on top of it it's a lie. >> right. >> we know from before he became president zelensky was award that for some weird reason the money congress appropriated in a bipartisan way to help him fight off putin's army that that money was being withhold. he couldn't figure out why. and then he began to get the -- get the picture. it's being held up because you haven't yet satisfied exactly what we want from you, which is

not really investigating corruption. >> right. >> actually it was just making a show of investigating corruption. sos in just the most transparently clear abuse of power and an impeachable offense that i can remember in the history of the united states. and i've studied it pretty thoroughly. this makes the nixon situation look silly by comparison. this is way more zbloors how quickly do you think the mouse democrats should be operating when it comes to having public hearings taking it to a full house vote? >> well, it seems to me after another week or two at most of taking depositions in a perfectly normal way they're doing it in way because william barr refused to conduct a criminal inquiry so they've got to do the work that would otherwise be done by a grand jury or special counsel. and it's ludicrous to claim there is something odor wrong about doing this part in closed

session. they do that for another ten days or so get all of the ducks in a row and then go into public session. we all get to hear what -- what carol -- i guess it's laura cooper has to say and we all get to hear what fiona hill has to say and hear in detail what the ambassador has to say. and then they're ready to vote articles of impeachment which they haven't drachted bus as nancy pelosi said it's not a time line it's a truth line. but when the truth is lined up they vote articles probably around thanksgiving or maybe into december. and then it's a senate trial. it's a trial in which it's going to be very hard for republicans even ones who have been loyal to the end to look at themselves in mirror and actually expect to be re-elected if they don't do in re constitutional. >> do you really believe that. >> i'm cautiously optimistic. >> it seems they're able to look in the mirror no matter what or

look themselves in their krechls as they broadcast from inside a supposedly secure room in viemgs of federal law. >> well, they clear i have been willing to put on a crazy show. but when push comes to show and they realize not only that their grand children will never forgive them and history will never forgive them but that voters will not forgive them i think they will get into line. and it doesn't take more than a few more to get at least a majority if not two thirds to convict the president. at that point i think we'll be off to the races. >> professor tribe, appreciate you being on thank you so much. >> thank you, anderson. >> coming up next, breaking news we just learned that the president's tv lawyer is talking about lawyering up. also, those two associates of rudy giuliani indicated -- or indicted last month they appeared in court today to enter pleas. up next we tell you what happened and why one of the lawyers just tied his client to the president.

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as breaking news on rudy giuliani goes, this particular item is both big but perhaps not surprising given that two of his closest associates were in court pleading to federal charges. giuliani is talking about his getting representation. evan perez broke the story. who is he trying to get. >> he is reaching out to some of his legal friends. he has a lot of lawyer friends in new york, anderson.

so we know over the last few days he has been reaching out to some, some of them have not been able to take on his representation but apparently a lot of them are actually trying to help him figure this out. obviously the need for lawyer has been certainly impressed upon him by many of his friends, even though rudy himself obviously has been resisting hiring a lawyer for the last few -- at least the last couple of weeks. >> we're talking about a defense attorney. >> right, exactly. we knew, right, ever since the two associates were indicted people have been telling rudy he should hire a lauren and to protect hemz and he has been resisting. >> do we no he if anything changed as far as federal investigators last week rudy says he wasn't looking for a lawyer and hadn't heard from the fbi. >> the message coming across to rudy that he is certainly somebody who is at the center of the investigation. he is now more than just a

peripheral figure which is what a lot of people naught early on. it's clear he is under close scrutiny by the prosecutors in the southern district of new york. that's why a lot of his friends have been telling rudy you need to hire someone to protect yourself. you also notice, anderson that he stopped commenting to the media. that's another sign he realizes the seriousness of the troubles that are potentially coming down his way. >> yeah, evan perez thank you fascinating reporting more on giuliani's two associates. igor fruman and lev parnas, pleading not guilty to federal campaign finance charges. surprisingly an torn for parnas claimed he might claim executive privileges because the lawyer said giuliani was his parnas's attorney and working for president trump during the time in question. the claim could link president trump to the government charges. it's clear fruman and parnas has been in giuliani ace orbit some time but the request he is who

are they. >> cnn vchgt correspondent drew griffin looked into it. >> all you need to know about rudy giuliani's now indicted clients is that a long list of people who did business with lev parnas or igor frum fibrin a home rental, a property lease, money leans, even basketball tickets have sued them. >> there is a saying in russia, don't go in the forest if you're afraid of wolves. niece guys weren't just wolves they are radioactive wolves. >> according to prosecutors parnas and fruman were dropping hundreds of thousands to republican campaigns and dropping something else, rudy giuliani's name, the two men used political connections, photos of themselves with giuliani, even ain'ting george bush's funeral with the former mayor. there they are hugging ron desantis and reams of photos with donald trump and his

family, all to use as currency in their scheme. >> in parts of the world like russia, ukraine if you have photos like that and show those to people these are countries where connections mean a lot. >> giuliani needed parnas and fruman connections in ukraine to carry out his private mission from president trump to investigate joe biden. parnas and fraumen used giuliani's name to hustle business. florida attorney bob stock says it's how the two men swindled his client out of $100,000. >> if someone tells you that they are dealing with the president of the united states's attorney and he is also your attorney, and you have very, very good relationship with him, most people would believe that you must be a credible person. >> stock says his client, a wealthy south florida businessman, loaned barn are parnas and fruman the money last year. according to the lawsuit the two men boast are boasted about

close relationships with giuliani and other republican power players who they said would help parnas and fruman in the new business, global energy producers, a gas export company that the two claimed would be the largest exporter of liquid natural gas in the u.s. stock says the two men suddenly tai paid back the loan days after news broke about giuliani pressuring ukraine to investigate joe biden. >> we went through these guy's personal histories. and they seemed to have a series of business failures and personal failures. and seems to in our opinion not to be credible. >> that didn't take long to find out, did it. >> no, it took maybe half an hour searching the public records. didn't have to hire investigators, didn't have to do any deep vetting. we -- it was evident from the public records. >> giuliani has failed to answer cnn's questions about his involvement with parnas and

fruman. cnn's own record search found a decade of red flags, lawsuits and judgments analyst of questionable businesses. global energy producers, the liquified natural gas powerhouse that had been the men bragged about had no income or significant assets. even parnas's company fraud guarantee that paid giuliani's $500,000 fee doesn't appear to be a company at all. it's registration is expired. according to philadelphia attorney bruce mark parnas and fruman approached his client a ukrainian billionaire earlier this year. wanting a 6-figure payment. in exchange they told the billionaire they could set up a meeting between the new ukrainian president and a delegation of american officials, mark says his client threw them out. >> let's be real, he really in my opinion should have been more diligent. they're fraudsters and has a security consulting people if there is anybody doing due

diligence it would be marp giuliani. >> you would thifrmg drew drive are griffin joins me there is evidence up until the day of the arrest these guys were working with giuliani on behalf of donald trump. is that right. >> very closely, anderson on the day of the arrest sources tell cnn they were on their way to vienna where they were going to meet rudy giuliani and alm of them were going to be involved in facilitating an interview between sean hannity at fox news and a former ukrainian prosecutor who was going to go on tv and support in conspiracy theory that the president has about the bidens and corruption and ukraine. obviously that didn't happen. and, again, we have no comment from either of the men's attorneys on that. >> again, the fact that one of the attorneys is claiming -- or talking about claiming executive privilege what exactly would he base a claim of executive privilege on? >> well honestly that attorney didn't really know. i think he was fishing about

this. but here is the theory. the theory is these guys share an attorney with the president. and they were working for the president's attorney in a role that the president wanted that attorney to fulfill. so if you put that all together you could say these guys were working for or on behalf of the president. and therefore would get some kind of executive privilege. >> hmm. >> we'll find out. >> drew griffin appreciate. fascinating. more ahead including a reality check on the president's claim that he has done a great service to the kurds and others in syria. with esri location technology, you can see relationships. connections. patterns. you can see what others can't. ♪ it's easy to move forward when you're ready for what comes next. at fidelity, we make sure you have a clear plan to cover the essentials in retirement, as well as all the things you want to do.

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circle or watch it any time on demand. we'll head over to chris cuomo for "cuomo prime time." >> i am chris cuomo. ukraine was concerned about being dragged into the election even before that infamous scull phone call. but this hey be worse. what were these republicans doing storming the castle? what do you say? let's get after it. we have new information. cnn confirms months before that notorious july phone call withu president, and after that first call, zelensky met with his team and discussed the concerns that they were being dragged into a u.s. election. where is the transcript of that call? obviously they were aware. the white house readout only

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