and get a free shredder with annual membership. call now to start your membership or visit lifelock.com/tv isis leader al baghdadi is believed to have been killed in a u.s. raid. >> this remarkable feat of taking out the world's most wanted man. >> a u.s. defense official said al baghdadi apparently detonated a suicide vest during the operation. president trump is expected to make a major announcement. earlier, though, he tweeted, something very big has just happened. >> reporter: president trump is lashing on it at john kelly. >> i said whatever you do, don't hire a yes man, someone that

won't tell you the truth. because if you do, i believe you will be impeached. >> president trump saying john kelly never said that. he never said anything like that. if he would have said that, i would have thrown him out of the office. good morning. so glad to have you with us. i'm chris my tall. >> i'm martin savidge. isis leader al baghdadi believed to have been killed in northwest syria. >> sources tell cnn that he detonated a suicide vest as u.s. special forces were closing in. we are told his location was based on cia intelligence. but we will have to wait for dna analysis to confirm that it is al baghdadi who died. . >> the islamic cleric and head of the islamic state has been in hiding five years. he declared the isis caliphate from inside the great mosque of

mosul iraq back in 2014. >> president trump is expected to make a major foreign policy announcement at 9:00 a.m. eastern time. last night he tweeted, quote, something very big has just happened. we want to show you nighttime video that syrian activists say show part of the raid targeting al baghdadi. cnn cannot confirm the authenticity of this video. >> now, a witness in syria described to cnn hearing several helicopters and warplanes and gunfire for about an hour last night in that area. >> let's get straight now to our senior international correspondent nick paton walsh in erbil, iraq.

what is the impact of this death, if confirmed, and anything we may know about how this mission was conducted. >> reporter: yeah. at this point we're still awaiting official details from the white house. of course donald trump will speak hours ahead. it was not far from the border with turkey and syria. a part of syria which is not controlled by isis or not seen american presence at all or has had an american presence. this is kind of al qaeda central. remember them. it appears al baghdadi was probably hiding out somewhere there. we don't know the precise circumstances of that. but that town is not far from the border, a matter of kilometers, miles really. the explosions consistent, sustained in one particular area. we understand that a body is having biometric testing done on it. special force commandos were

involved. a ground force having entered before air strikes followed in to perhaps clear up the scene behind. we will hear details in time. long time allies fighting, the syrian kurds, their leader said they were involved in providing intelligence for a historic operation. that's massively complicated pause president trump green lighted a turkish incursion against the kurds making life very complicated given how close the turkish border, this particular raid and quite likely the world's most wanted man, was hiding out. this will be unpacked in the hours ahead as we learn who participated in this and how al baghdadi was found. we will see a commander can in chief giving a speech in which he will congratulate the armed forces, perhaps himself too.

they may have been given him one of his greatest victories in the first term. here's what we know and what meant the life of the world's most wanted man, the leader of isis, believed to be dead now, al baghdadi. his face in public only once. and even then in the presence of a small number. this is the moment at friday prayers in a freshly conquered, al baghdadi, one of the most successful inhuman terror networks in history, chose to reveal himself. yet before the in famy of his pulpit, he spent a decade rising quietly. a ph.d. student said to like football, these records show his capture in 2004 near fallujah, his hometown and held for years as a civilian in tenternee at b.

>> he was not cruel or radical at the time. he just wanted to fight the americans. however, he leaped toward sectarian violence in buca, a school where he met foreigners and iraqis who filled his head with such ideas. >> the officer of the camp remembers the words. >> as he was leaving, and he knew my unit was from long island, new york. he looked over to us. he said, see you guys in new york. i look at that in a little different context now. >> reporter: a long stretch in the shadows of iraq's civil war before hitting al can kai da sanctions list in june 2011. here he led the islamic state of iraq, the al qaeda franchise in iraq, was killed. increasingly sectarian violence of civil war became a magnet for

the bloodthirsty. al baghdadi silently behind an isis brutality so extreme even al qaeda disowned it leading the groups to split in 2014. months later, the group, to show its fighters, breaking the borders of syria and iraq, the cleric they khraeurd caliphate. they claimed direct lineage from the prophet muhammad, the new caliph. this was the pinnacle of careers of calculation and isis rose fast. and then the attack on an occupation of mows up. the atrocities in mount sinja, the beheadings of western hostagings, the proceeding of kobani. more errors marked by an obscene worship of violence. in all these, he isn't visible.

one of the more terrifying things about the eyes he helped create is not his object section with gruesome acts of murder but the harnessing of social media to create a global franchise in libya, afghanistan, paris, brussels, atrocities committed by people who were attracted to isis's brand to commit atrocities and even die for it. but in november 2014, rumors of an air strike hitting him. within a week, a recording of his speech. [speaking foreign language] . it became a pattern. no public appearances mixed with randomly released audio statements. they believe he was injured in may 2017 and had to take five months away from his duties as a result. but yet from that moment onwards what was left of the so-called caliphate, collapsed in on itself. mosul, free from their grip in

july, raqqa in october. isis reduced to a tiny shreupb of land on the iraqi and syrian border. an idea, infectious, hateful, still capable of inspiring barbaric in safpblt now without its figurehead, a man willing to lead his followers to death but only from the shadows. it's key this is an ideology. it doesn't die because its author is dead. certainly it takes a significant body blow and closes a chapter. a large part of iraq and syria under its control. its own police force, currency. it is now massively reduced to thousands of fighters in detention camps. tens of thousands of family members and sympathizers in southeastern syria. but make no mistake, the

grievances, unhappiness, the massive sense of persecution felt by sunni arabs in both syria and iraq, that's still there. and possibly around the world. sympathize issues drawn to the warped version of islam. a small and nasty and particularly interpretation. what is important to remember is that this is the man whose freedom, whose consistent presence at large, evading u.s. justice, symbolized isis's strength. that will be a huge blow. it will not end it. it will leave many asking how on earth was the united states military and cia able to pull this off at the most complicated time it had in syria. they were moving out of bases, pulling back, constantly changed it by the commander in chief. still they achieved this, the most important goal.

america has had a scattered history, often negative. this is undoubtedly an extraordinary feat. back to you. >> nick paton walsh, such great context for us. thank you so much. >> the white house announced the president will be announcing the nation shortly in the aftermath of this military raid. any idea, kristen, what the president will say? >> reporter: they are being very cagey about this. that's no surprise. they said it will be foreign policy related in the diplomatic room. they will want the president, the commander in chief, to be the one who sets the narrative, the tone on this. they will want to take a step back and let him do the talking. of course we have a cryptic tweet from donald trump last night saying something very big has just happened. but that is about the most detail we have.

? this is confirmed this will be a huge win for president trump. his foreign policy has been called into questions not just by democrats but republicans who slammed him for suggesting that u.s. troops should be withdrawing from syria, for withdrawing the troops, saying we were leaving our allies there, the kurds, to die. now you have the most wanted man being killed in a raid that would have been confirmed by president trump. and not only that, we see the kurds, a general of the kurds is tweeting out that they helped the u.s., they were working with the u.s. on this. so this really changes the narrative here, particularly at a critical time for president trump when he was getting it from all sides, democratic and republican, and with the impeachment probe. so, again, a very big win for president trump. >> kristen holmes, thank you very much.

>> we want to bring in our military analyst, retired general hertling. thank you for being with us. your gut reaction, first of all, to this news? >> well, a couple of things. first of all, good morning to you and martin. number one, congratulations to the team i think with the cia and other agencies that contributed for probably weeks, months, or perhaps even years of intelligence analysis, collection of human intelligence, signals intelligence and all the things that led to this. this may have occurred yesterday, last night, but it was probably months or years in the making to track this individual down. he has been wanted for a while. the strike was a good one. secondly, what i would say is i'm confused watching the actions what was al baghdadi doing in this town? this is about five kilometers

from the turkish border. it's someplace where the russians said there was no way he was here. who knew he was there? what communication was made with the kurdish sdf commander and how did this play a part with conducting this strike now? the other thing i will say, too, having fought he's kind of guys and targeted them with my partners from jsoc when i was in the military is what happens next? the last time a strike was conducted against bin laden and before that with kakaqa swra ca

what haary. they said they are preparing for the time of his death and the fact that he will be a martyr. it has a significant influence when you call someone that in thesis lambist radical groups. so all of these things -- this will be portrayed as a great victory. a good strike, good jackpot as jsoc calls it. this is certainly not the end of the ideology of these radical extremists and in fact, could be some advancement in terms of the area and other plates around the world. >> general, if i could, let me ask you a couple of quick questions about this. no doubt there will be critics of the president who say he carried this out in part to distract from what is going on domestically. the president, first of all, would have signed off on a mission like this, correct?

>> correct. on top of that, this is not a mission you just call up on a saturday night. . >> right. and you're getting to a good point, martin. this is not necessarily something the president drove. he was presented with intelligence from the cia or his staff, and more than like hrly special operations commander saying, hey, we have really good intelligence. we can strike this target right now. that's how it happened with swra carry and osama bin laden. they had high confidence going in the target with a whole lot of information. he blessed the mission, as all commander in chiefs do. but this has been percolating for days, weeks, or even months. . >> who makes the final call of timing? like we go tonight? we don't go? >> that's in cooperation between

the commander on the scene, probably jsoc commander saying we have good intelligence that al baghdadi is at this location. joani, the hts commander, his enemy, an al qaeda operative may have been on the scene. early indicators were quite a few people were struck in the raid. the final go is from the commander in chief but comes from the commander on the ground saying we have high intelligence on this. we can strike without extreme danger to our troops. >> do you think turkey was involved in any way with this? >> good question, martin. what i'm concerned about, was turkey involved in the operation passing intelligence, or were turkish forces involved in the hiding of al baghdadi for several years? again, i go to the point, this

is a turkish-controlled area. it is five kilometers from the border. just like the bin laden raid, going back to that, we knew pakistanis knew he was there. this guy can't be that secretive. there are things that allow you to get information. i'm not casting a persians but that is a question that needs to be answered. how much did turkey know. how much information did they ask? were they ally or foe. >> maybe when the president speaks we will get more insight on that. thank you very much. i know we will talk later >> thank you, general. the white house is lashing on it at president trump's former chief of staff john kelly this morning. kelly said he warned president trump the president might face impeachment if he was replaced with a yes man. coming up, pretty blistering response from the white house about that. plus, we are following the breaking news out of syria where it is believed that isis leader

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operation got under way. now, cnn cannot confirm this is the raid that targeted al baghdadi. according to a senior american military official, al baghdadi detonated a suicide vest as they carried out the raid. president trump expected to announce the details in a news conference which will take place later this morning. isis last its last physical stronghold back in march. >> sam kylie joins us now. what is the recollection there where you are? >> reporter: the defense ministry has confirmed there was prior coordination with the ministry of defense and u.s. forces prior to this operation. so that is proof positive they

were in the know in that area which is an area right on the doorstep of turkey, just about three miles into syria from turkey where this operation was conducted. now, as you had local eyewitnesses reporting a battle for an hour with aircraft. clearly the movement of aircraft through an airspace that is complex but at the moment dominated in that area by turkey. but also shared quite often with russian and assad, the government in damascus. a very complex environment but a huge success in symbolic terms for the united states and their

ongoing battle against the so-called islamic state. claims coming from the government in baghdad. they were involved in providing intelligence that ed ultimately to this strike. in the end, the future has gone from a size of great britain tearing up the colonial borders as they saw them, declaring a caliphate, now crushed militarily. the idea remains. now they will be competing with al qaeda for the international jihadi franchise. while it's a little odd, al baghdadi, if he was killed in this village, was hiding there because that is firmly inside al qaeda-dominated area and

extremely densely populated with people from the syrian civil war. extreme live uncomfortable place to be maintained a secret location for any period of time. it will also raise the question whether or not he or his family were trying to escape perhaps into turkey. >> all right. sam kiley, great information for us. thank you so much. >> breaking news in texas. this just coming in. reports of a shooting at a college event outside greenville. the texas a&m police department tweeting there was, quote, an event that may or may not have involved students. . >> police say that there is no active shooter. we will follow the situation closely. we will give you more information as soon as we get it. and we continue of course to

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and we are following breaking news out of syria. isis leader al baghdadi is believed to have been killed in a u.s. military raid in northwest syria. it happened overnight. defense officials say it appears that al baghdadi detonated a suicide vest as special forces were moving in. this morning president trump is expected to mack a major announcement. he tweeted something very big has just happened. >> and in light of all of this, we want to tell you more about abu bakr al baghdadi.

he was detained back in 2004 for several months at a u.s.-run prison in southern iraq. he was later released. two years after that, isis was created. and in 2010, he ascended on the leadership after his predecessors were killed in a u.s.-iraqi operation. in 2014, isis announced the creation of a caliphate. and al baghdadi declared himself the ruler of more than a billion muslims. since then, he kept a low profile. he is believed to have been wounded in an air streak and conceded control of the terror network several months due to injury. in april of this year, isis released what was reportedly a new video message from al baghdadi. sources telling cnn he is believed to be dead after a u.s. special operations raid in syria. martin? >> we want to turn to ben wedeman. ben has been following isis for quite a while.

he was covering the major battle for mosul that took place in iraq. he has spoken to many of the former fighters of the isis network, as well as their wives and children. ben, this is a perfect time to sort of ask you what the death of al baghdadi would signify and how is this going to impact isis which as we know exists mostly as an ideology. >> reporter: it is highly significant that the leader of the organization has been killed. but isis is more than just an ideology. it no longer controls any significant territory in syria, in iraq. where just a few years ago it ruled over the size of britain with 12 million people. but it still operates in west africa, libya, egypt's sinai peninsula, in afghanistan, in the philippines. it is still very much out there. the difference is that it has become sort of a diffused

organization where each local branch operates on its own. so the elimination of abu bakr al baghdadi takes a similar pollic head. but the organization is still there. osama bin laden, the now dead head of al qaeda, he was in front of a well-known public figure going back to the 1980s when he led the fight against the soviet occupation of afghanistan. abu bakr al baghdadi was largely unknown until he page the head of isis and appeared in public in july 2014 in that mosque in mosul. before that, he was only known to a very small number of people. he didn't have a cultive personality around him the way osama bin laden did.

when we were interviewing dozens of isis fighters who just surrendered in eastern syria and their wives and their children, very few people that we mentioned actually mentioned al baghdadi by name. most of them stressed their loyalty, their affiliation to the islamic state, not to the figure, the personality, of abu bakr al baghdadi. martin? kristin? >> i'm wondering do you have any reason why he was at least reportedly killed in idlib province? it is not an area they are known to have a strong connection to. in fact, just the opposite. i'm wondering with all your experience, any idea why he would be there? >> reporter: idlib province is largely controlled by an area of al qaeda. fundamentally, al qaeda and isis, though they have their

differences, isis grew out of al qaeda. therefore, it's not altogether surprising that given that he has been on the run for quite some time, that he might have decided to go to idlib sort of as a last ditch effort to stay alive himself. but perhaps to make an alliance. they have had their differences in the past. but their fundamental ideologies aren't really that different. martin? >> okay. really appreciate your insight and your expertise. ben, thank you very much. ahead, we have more on this huge development in a hunt for isis leader of abu bakr al baghdadi. (contemplative synth music)

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breaking news. it is believed isis leader al baghdadi was killed overnight. >> syrian activists say this video showed this video. cnn cannot confirm this was the raid. a defense official said it appears al baghdadi detonated a suicide vest as special operations commandos closed in. >> president trump will speak at 9:00 a.m. we expect it to be about this issue. they say only that the president is making a major announcement. that is coming in just a few

hours. >> it came after some speculation with a tweet writing last night, quote, something very big has just happened. joining us now to discuss is brian settler, chief media correspondent and anchor of "reliable sources". thinking back to the announcement of the raid that killed osama bin laden and i'm wondering what do you make of the messaging. >> certainly this plays into one of the most important, most effective rhetorical devices. he talks about ending the endless wars. he uses this at rallies, speeches. it resonates on the right and the heavy. that is a message he will be reinforcing later today. he can meet an important moment not just in the united states but around the world. when you read what president

obama said on the bin laden raid, you barely saw the word i. it was all about we. we are safer as a result. this president has a tendency to talk in the first person, to take credit himself, talk about himself. this is a hands for him to think bigger, move beyond that. we will see if he does in a few hours. the white house said the president was going to address the nation. it was a complete surprise up until an hour before the president's speech. what we are seeing in this case is a little bit different. president trump's tweet stirred speculation. now people will wake up and learn the news about the u.s. believing that al baghdadi has been killed. it will be a little bit less of a surprise by the time the president speaks.

>> what is interesting about this, brian, is the timing. the president is facing this incredible pressure from the ongoing impeachment inchoiquiry. how does all of that factor into this moment that we're in now? >> my sense is that everything that was true yesterday with regards to the impeachment inquiry will be true today and true tomorrow. the alleged abuses of power that were being investigated yesterday are just as relevant today and tomorrow. that said, the president, whoever is president, of his will gain some credit and deservedly so. when the country has a success, the military has a success. what's important is this credible issue. the president has squandered his credibility.

however, the american people need to be able to trust government announcements, information. in this case it is the u.s. military doing the vetting, analysis to be able to say that this is in fact, al baghdadi. of course as they said, that's what is happening right now. a verification process is happening as we speak. the president's credibility has given that up, lost that credibility. however, the u.s. military's statements still do hold a lot of credibility, and that's important today, especially today of all days. >> stelter, we appreciate you always. thank you, sir. be sure to watch brian later on "reliable sources" here on cnn. the leader of isis believed to have killed in a u.s. special operations raid.

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we are staying on top of breaking news. sources tell cnn it is believed that abu bakr al baghdadi was killed in a raid in northwest syria. >> this video shows the aftermath of the raid. it appears al baghdadi detonated

a suicide vest as commandos went in. the president will speak at 9:00 this morning eastern time. one of president trump's former advisers for the white house says, the white house staff is to plame for the impeachment inquiry going into the house. . >> president trump's former chief of staff john kelly said he advised the president against hiring a yes man as his replacement, saying it could lead him to impeachment. in a statement to cnn president trump said kelly every said anything like that. and if he had, he would have been thrown out of the office. kelly, former general, said he did not do enough to rein in the

president's impulses. pepperman has been scheduled to give a deposition tomorrow. he asked the judge if he had to comply with his subpoena. a first saturday deposition questioning phillip reeker. it went on eight hours. house intelligence chair adam schiff said he believed they were making progress. republican scott perry sounded unimpressed with the testimony. take a listen. . >> well, it's the same old situation. honestly, i haven't heard anything that has been earth shattering or really anything different than what we have heard over and over again. so we're just going through it methodically and see if there's anything different. but there is no difference in

process. and there's been no earth-shattering revelations or otherwise as far as i can tell so far today. . >> and we want to check back in with cnn's kristen holmes covering the white house. the white house has been pushing pack against john kelly's claims that we were talking about a moment ago. >> that's right, martin. no surprise the white house doesn't want to be able to say if he pushed back more on the president he wouldn't be going through this. i want to play this clip, an interview during a forum. take a listen to john kelly. >> whatever you do, don't hire a yes man, someone that's going to tell you -- won't tell you the truth. don't do that. pause if you do, i believe you'll be impeached. >> reporter: then he went on to say if he had stayed on as chief of staff this wouldn't have happened. he said he regretted sometimes. he looked pack and thought maybe

he shouldn't have left. as you had, the president really pushing pack on this. but what might be even more interesting here is the statement that we got from the press secretary. i want to pull it up for you. she said i worked with john kelly, and he was totally unequipped to handle the genius of our great president. this is a very interesting statement from the press secretary. he is a four star marine general. interesting to see that kind of pushback. it sounds something president trump would have said. all of this is happening just about a week and a half after that disastrous press conference we saw with the acting chief of staff mick mulvaney where admitted to a quid pro quo and

then had to pull back. it is interesting to see what is going on behind the scenes. . >> kristen holmes, thank you so much for that. general mark hertling a cnn military analyst. let me ask about this whole general kelly thing. i'm wondering on two points. first of all, that kelly would speak out at the time that he did and that he was totally in equipped. >> i will comment on john kelly pause i served with him in northern iraq. he was in the western part of iraq commanding marines there. we had quite an operate to coordinate, cooperate in our conduct of operations. he was a very good marine, a i good partner, a good soldier. in this case, a good marine. tactically savvy.

operationally gifted. we conducted a lot of operations together during some tough times in combat. what i want to say is i don't want to comment on his abilities as chief of staff other than to say i know he had held those roles in the military and had done very well as chief of staff of organizations. he was in fact, the deputy to the secretary of defense at one time. this is a got who is pretty doggone sport. he knows how to bring rigor and discipline to staffs. those are the kinds of things, as you recall, were needed in the white house when chief of staff kelly, former cabinet member kelly took over. so i'm assuming there was a lot of churn and a lot of chaos and dysfunction in the white house staff. he tried to bring some discipline to it. this whole commentary back and forth between him and the president and the press

secretary, it seems to me the press secretary probably has not commanded any large organizations or opinion the staff director for any staffs. she doesn't even show her face when it comes time to have a press conference. the president saying he would have thrown him out of the office. this sounds like something john kelly would say or i would say if i was on that staff role. make sure you don't get a yes man. but taeuplt, martin, i would also comment there were quite a few can tkals ascandals when mr kelly was the chief of staff. i'm not sure how much u he brought it together, he wishes he was pack there to bring a little more discipline to it. that's all well and good, but there were a lot of things going wrong that various members of the press reported on while he was there. i don't want to comment on his actions as chief of staff.

those are my thoughts as an american citizen. >> i want to ask you about this. what john kelly said in some ways correlates with something rex tillerson said back in december 2008. he would say so you know the president would say here's what i want and here's how i want to do it. and he would say, mr. president, i understand you want to do it that way but you can't to it that because pause it violates the law. do both statements establish a pattern of sorts maybe from president trump and do you think that he is surrounding himself with yes men? . >> well, one comment like that, is an anecdote. we have heard it from more than rex tillerson. we have heard it from mcmanus, mcallister, kelly.

when multiple people say the same kind of thing as the relationship role, it quits being annan dote and is a trend line. the anonymous writer for the "new york times" now has a pock out who i'm sure will share more about this. so a lot of these things seem to be going back to various people on the staff making comment about the way the leader, the commander in chief runs his operation. and, again, it's troubling. it seems to be a little bit chaotic and dysfunctional. there is a whole bunch of people saying it. i lend credence to that. >> i wanted to ask quick. a good commander would want someone to be pushed back against him. you tonight always want to hear someone tkpraeg with you >> yeah.

martin, a comment approximate that, you have a napoleon's corporal on your staff. napoleon had a rider with him who would tell him what was done. you tonight want yes man, that's for sure. >> general hertling, we appreciate you and your expertise. thank you for waking with up with us this morning. >> thank you both. >> thank you. >> if you're just joining us, we have breaking news we want to let you know about. we know at least two people are dead and at least 10 injured in a shooting in greenville, texas. >> hunt county sheriff meeks said they are currently looking for the shooting. overnight, texas a&m university said there was a shooting you it did not appear on their campus. we are live on the scene next hour. do stay with us pause our breaking news coverage continues after the break.

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