news on the impeachment inquiry. a first-hand witness to the president's phone call on ukraine is due to testify tomorrow. brand new reporting, this man may solidify what should be an obvious point. what do you say, let's get after it. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> all right. so now we're expecting a new testimony tomorrow. we're just getting in information in. we are trying to understand what it will mean for us. but, look, a white house national security official, all right, the main ukraine expert, he is called the top expert here bit "new york times," lieutenant

colonel alexander vinman of the army. why does he matter? expertise, understands ukraine, national security, u.s. policy is his domain. he heard the phone call in july, okay. no hearsay, not some political pawn, an expert, a military man on the call. he was very concerned by what he heard. and believes that it was out of an act of sense of duty that he not once but twice registered complaints. now the key question becomes about what. here it is. his internal objections went to the fact that demanding a foreign government investigate a u.s. citizen was not proper. okay? now, second level. so he heard it as an ask, he heard it as a specific investigation to a u.s. citizen, which would have been biden and he thought it was wrong. he then started to be concerned about how that was responded to

by people around this president, including his lawyer, that they were pushing a false narrative about ukraine. now the second piece. they will also testify, reportedly, that he confronted ambassador sondland. remember who that is, the president's pal, the hotel guy gifted an ambassadorship to the european union who was then brought in to help with the ukraine plan. sondland testified, too, tried to help the president out a little bit but he, too, made this point, that there was a problem with what the relationship would be and what was being asked for. he will testify that he confronted sondland about ukraine delivering specific investigations in order to secure the meeting with the president. now, that is known, as we all know the latin now, quid pro quo. doesn't have to just be about the aid.

you don't even need a quid pro quo, but if you're going to make that the political bar, you now have one. and remember, ambassador sondland was very careful, as we understand it, in his testimony to say he was asked by the president to do this. bill taylor, the ambassador, we are told said sondland said the president wanted him to do this. there. what will it mean to republican ears? let's bring in congressman mark wayne mullen of oklahoma. good to have you back as the story moves along. >> thanks, chris. >> appreciate your constant taking of the opportunity. means a lot. >> absolutely. appreciate you having me on. >> so this man is unassailable. nobody is going to throw dirt on him, not unlike volker, sondland. he said he heard it as a quid pro quo and it bothered him as a sense of duty. >> this hearing is supposed to be deemed classified and not

supposed to be getting the reports leaked until they are considered to be done so by adam schiff, how is new york already getting this report? how are they already getting the testimony? why is new york hearing abou before members of congress? and, second of all, if you're really talking about the individual that supposedly heard it firsthand, who is his superior that he put it to? and if -- >> good question. >> and that's why we should be having these open and fair hearings. everybody should hear these cases. and if this was the case, if he was on the phone call, which he wasn't reported earlier that he was on the phone call, but if he did hear it, we already heard the transcript said he didn't ask him to investigate joe biden, he asked him to investigate hunter biden, not joe biden. >> you can't look at one without -- look --

>> we've already talked about this. >> you can have your points about the process. i don't care about leaks unless it is actual national security and as a journalist i like them. >> you should be demanding those hearings be open. >> we always do. that's not a question to us. and no secret to anybody, you guys all leak, you manipulate and -- >> i 100% disagree on that. >> you can but when nunez was running up to the white house and giving information, when benghazi was getting leaked to us selectively -- >> adam schiff is keeping held secret in the basement of the capitol -- >> we talked about this before. that is not a fair accounting of the process. >> chris, i tried to get in. >> if you're on the committee, you can go. >> look at the history of how we handled nixon. >> it's not apples to apples. >> it's exactly apples to apples. >> it is not. i don't want to go backwards. >> i know you were upset about it, the democrats were upset in

'98 when you guys started with a real estate transaction and ended up with a sex act. if this man what he is saying is deemed true, heard the call, saying investigate biden, investigating one biden is relevant to investigating all bidens and saying i don't think you should investigate these things with the president with a quid pro quo, not that you need one, what would you think then? >> you do need treason, bribery, high crime or misdemeanor and that has not happened. >> if you have this kind of abuse of power -- >> how do we know it was abuse -- >> if he asks a foreign power to investigate for a political advantage, it's an excuse. >> he makes very unconventional decisions but we hired a businessman to run the united states. that's what the american people decided to do in 2016.

>> i have no problem with the election, i have no problem with the democrats not getting over it. i'm asking you a question. >> then how can you support this impeachment? >> i don't have to support or not support. i'm a journalist, you know that. >> i'll give you that one, chris. >> here's what i'm saying, cong you are not supposed to ask a he hasn't been elected.igate a >> do we agree. >> i would say that's probably kosher. you shouldn't. i'm not saying it's illegal. i'm not saying it's illegal to do so. >> the founding fathers went out of their way and it is illegal because you have laws designed off their intention to keep foreign powers out. let me give you a hint as somebody who wishes you well. don't ask a foreign power to look into your next opponent, congressman. you're going to be in legal jeopardy. >> i completely agree with that and that is not what happened here. president trump did not ask them to look into a political opponent, asked them to look into hunter biden's -- >> that's not what he said in

the transcript. he said biden and his son. >> he said do me a favor because it's important to us, meaning the people of the united states that we know the truth into what relationship joe biden's son had. >> why do you think this president cared about joe biden's son? because of how it's connected to joe biden. >> you is a seated vice president's son who had no relationship with ukraine setting on a board of an oligarch who is a known -- >> and all of a sudden he cares, right? >> he's paid $83,000 a month. >> it must really disgust him, not so much that he won't have his daughter work for the u.s. government while she cuts trade deals for her company. that doesn't bother him. >> you always go to ivanka. >> because it's such a hypocrisy. >> you never heard another

journalist say to you what i said on the show. what hunter biden did is wrong. >> then why isn't it investigated? >> it doesn't need to be investigated. you didn't see any illegality at the time. you certainly didn't have a shortage of targets. >> we most certainly did bring it up at the time. why do you think the president brought it up at the time. >> every time we try to bring it up, the obama administration stopped it. >> i said when you guys were in power of the congress, when it happened. >> we brought it up at that time. >> you did not. you didn't investigate it and you could have. >> as soon as we found out about it, we tried to bring it up and get answers to it and it was immediately stopped. >> i have no problem talking about bidens and what you people should do and shouldn't do and ethics. i do not buy this president's good faith effort when he ignores his own administration and his own family. now i look at the facts. if the fact is,

what taylor said, what sondland said and what the transcript said at some point you won't be able to avoid it and you'll have to make an argument to your constituents about why this isn't wrong. >> everyone starts thinking this is a new shining star that's going to bring the president down. after every year -- how many have you heard? >> i'm asking you how many ways do you have to hear -- >> how many testimonies have you gotten to hear? >> i haven't heard any. >> i haven't either. >> i think you're using it as a dodge. >> when are you going to get our vote? >> thursday you're going to get a vote. on the procedures. >> no, we're not voting on it. nancy pelosi came back out and said that's not what we're going to be voting on. we're going to vote on something else. >> you find me an impeachment process where the minority had the same rights as a majority and you look at the compromise because you changed the rules in 2015. >> you want to look at the way nixon and clinton was handled.w

speaker that had an open inquiry impeachment hearing setting the rules and gave the minority -- >> after the grand jury was convened. >> -- the majority to have their own witnesses. >> they never had the same ability to -- i don't know why you guys can't just tell the truth on this, congressman. >> we're telling the truth. >> no, it's not. >> all we have to do is google. >> mr. mullen, i don't care about the vote because you don't have to. because they don't have to do it and you people play to advantage. that's why you changed the rules in 2015. no, you did not, no, you did not. >> we did, too. >> you did not. you had the starr investigation, which was done in private and then given to congress. >> president clinton at the time lied to a grand jury. once we proved that he had lied, then we proceeded to the impeachment inquiry vote and we set the rules at the time -- >> but after -- no, no, no. >> the rules clearly gave

minority the right to call their own witnesses -- >> congressman, you can't say things that aren't true on this show! >> that is absolutely true. >> the minority never had the same rights as the majority to call witnesses or subpoena and admit it. >> did clinton -- was he able to have representation during the process? >> yes. but after the investigatory phase. >> was the minority at the time the democrats, were they able to call witnesses on their behalf and cross-examine. >> just like you will be able to when you get done with the investigation. you're not doing apples to apples. i wanted to give you a chance. >> that have true. the difference was clinton and nixon committed a crime and trump has not. and you're looking for one. >> this could be behavior that is illegal. it's an abuse of power. it's asking a foreign power to

be involved in an election. you're not allowed to do that. it's against the law. >> he has unconventional ways -- >> it's not unconventional. it's abusive. i just want to see the what point the facts will say that to you. >> if they have found something president trump has done illegal, don't you think adam schiff would already have come out and leaked it? >> but nunez was the best, right? your boy nunez. when he ran to the white house and told him about the information he had at his counsel, he had an oversight duty -- >> give me one thing that nunez lied to -- >> he lied -- i'll answer your question. he had to recuse himself and take a break why? because when he raised the his right hand and said his oath was to trump and he went right to the white house and told him what information he had as a part of his congressional oversight. >> he did it because he felt like he was being a distraction. >> he was a distraction. he lied when he said he would do his job because he did the job

for them and you know it. you didn't give me any compelling example of anything. >> i'll give you three examples. >> i don't want to hear them because i don't want to take the time to fact check them. i'm already out of time. when you say you do your duty to defend the constitution -- >> i do every day. >> not you. when he said that and then ran to the white house and then gave them information that was a function of his oversight, he beached his duty. that was perfidious. in my world i don't care about blaming wrong doing on somebody else to relieve myself of responsibility. >> you should in the conversation. of time i bring up hunter biden, you bring up ivanka trump. >> you have multiple people from his team -- i respect you protecting the president but i cannot let you get away with things that do not make sense on the show. you should do it with a sense of responsibility for the facts because that's what the american people demand. i appreciate you coming on to

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all right. cnn has just independently confirmed the breaking news in "the new york times" about what we expect as testimony tomorrow about ukraine. here's what we have -- a white house official, an army officer, who did listen to president trump's ukraine call, he says he did, he says who he was with, nsc and vice presidential staffers, for him to be lying about this would be absurd, okay? i know politicians are going to argue everything's a doubt, we need a better process. if the guy is lying about having been on the call, he's a fool. he will be exposed, it would be immediate. so i don't buy it. on the call, we know what he heard because we've seen the kind of transcript. it's how he felt about it. he thought it was so damaging that he reported it to a lawyer citing a sense of duty.

that is from a draft of lieutenant colonel alexander vindman tomorrow. he's the top ukraine expert on the national security council. he plans to tell the inquiry he heard the president appeal to ukraine's president to investigate biden, meaning joe and hunter. it is poppycock to look into just hunter would be okay. and he will also say, quote, i am not the whistle-blower. now, do you care about that? no, that's partisan, inside politics. we don't even need the whistle-blower anymore to be honest. andrew mccabe and jim baker here to discuss what we do need. andrew, fact significance here. assuming this guy can't be blown up as illegitimate or a partisan or something like that, relevance. >> incredibly relevant. we are still working with the fundamental, the underlying problem here is the allegation

that the president utilized his authority to conduct foreign relations for his own personal political benefit. every single one of the witnesses that we've heard from so far confirms that underlying allegation. >> i have a duty to investigate corruption. it's the only reason i did it and it's just his son. >> i have yet to hear a single person who accepts that reason. >> you just heard from the congressman. >> with all due respect, i don't think he was on the phone call or knows the facts. this is another well-placed position who heard not just the phone call in question but the prior one on the 21st. it's part of his duty to listen to these conversations from the sit room with his colleagues in these instances. >> we may have an answer now which is that earlier call, what

happened on that one? he wasn't as bothered about the earlier call as he was about this one. so maybe this was the one that's more relevant in terms of quid pro quo to the extent that's a relevant part of the analysis. but here's why i care about what mulen said. this is not about convincing a injury. and andrew's analysis would be perfect if we were talking about a jury. oh, they'll never buy that. but it's not about jurors, it's about mr. mullen and people like him. if each refuses to see it as wrong, how does vindman matter tomorrow? >> vindman matters tomorrow because at the end of the day members of congress and the house and the senate listen to their constituents. what needs to happen is the american people need to convey to members of congress that this is wrong, just like the lieutenant colonel is prepared to testify, this is wrong.

why is it strong? because it's an abuse of power. how is it an abuse of power? it's sicking a foreign government on an american citizen to investigate them to help the president stay in power. and that should be unacceptable to all americans. we should not want to live in a country where that's okay. and i think quite frankly i think all members of congress understand that. they don't want -- they wouldn't want this done against them for sure. and so at the end of the day, the american people need to pick up the phone, send emails and let their members of congress know we don't want to live in this kind of country. at the end of the day, that's why this witness is relevant because he has the credibility, the stature, the proven service to the country, the willingness to put his life at risk and stand up and do what's right. >> let's do this. we're going to take a break. i'm having the team -- we're putting together some of the relevant things from this testimony that are coming out now and different bullet points about different things that this lieutenant colonel in the army, who is our, the united states' top ukraine national security expert was worried about. that is going to carry a lot of weight with the politicians who

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these two guys, i'm giving them an education on how politics is always what you expect in the courtroom. if mark wayne mullen, a congressman from oklahoma, republican, wants to say it's okay if it's one biden, not both, it's okay because the president is supposed to do it, and the process stinks and i don't care what comes out of it, it's a hard bar because he's the jury on the house side for articles of impeachment and then you have the real try in the senate. this guy with vindman, taylor was the most impressive guy i heard to date on the issue. now vindman will be. why? because he heard the call. he is a ukraine policy expert, he heard the call and here are his punch points we made up for

you in the break. first white house official to testify who listened. so forget about the hearsay b.s. complained internally twice about how trump inner circle were handling ukraine. what does that mean handling? that they were bad mouthing the country, undermining the policy goals and working to their own political advantage. we heard that from taylor and even a little bit from sondland, who is trump's buddy. said trump's comments about biden's on call with undermine u.s. national security, said sondland emphasized importance that ukraine deliver investigations into 2016 election on the bidens. you guys feel free to disagree. that last point i believe, jim baker, is the worst from the perspective of the president's perfidy. you held up a meeting, something of value, unless they had these investigations. >> it is the quid pro quo, it not the money, not the military

aid but it's the quid pro quo. you give me the investigations that i want and i'll give you the visit you so desperately want. but that's not even needed as you've made the point so many times. what's in existence is an abuse of power. look, this witness that's going to come forward tomorrow and presumably we'll see him eventually in the public hearings is the kind of witness that you want in front of a jury, for example, in a regular criminal trial because you do have to persuade the jury made up of regular citizens that something was wrong, that something was illegal and that these witnesses that the government is putting forward are to be believed. at the end of the day, the jury decides whether or not there was a violation of law, whether the governor has proven a violation of law beyond a reasonable doubt and convict the person. it's not completely dissimilar to what's going on here with respect to convincing the members of congress and ultimately convincing the american people that something was wrong, that something was wrong. >> you have two sets of jurors here de facto who have personal interest in the outcome. you guys spend so much time at a trial to try to strip that away with your potential jurors here, it's the opposite.

now, andrew, we heard jim say something that is not a point to forget. this is all going to happen again. >> of course. >> that's the problem with the republicans' argument about the process right now, is that they're trying to suggest that it's all over after this investigation. it isn't. it's just beginning. but when he gets up there and he says these things tomorrow, here's what i think they hit him with. you ever talk to the president about this? >> no. but it mattered to you so much, big shot ukraine guy, army officer, that's the commander in chief. you never now the to go to him? who did you go to? why didn't you say anything then?

what did you say? >> he makes it clear he reports to fiona hill and she reports to john bolton and john bolt on reports to the president. they follow chain of command. he did the right thing by contacting both his supervisors and john eisenberg, who is the lawyer who oversees legal matters for the nsc. >> he doesn't have the aid either, he only has the meeting. >> that's right. the statement much like taylor's is remarkable. it's detailed. each entry begins with a date, says who was there, who heard, there are all kind of other witnesses you can identify from reading the statement that could corroborate the assertions that he makes. >> andrew, jim, thank you very. here's what's obvious at this point. i'll keep pounding the facts, we'll keep testing the arguments on the facts, but when are you going to acknowledge what is obvious here? all right, this is big breaking news tonight. it's yet an even more qualified person telling you what you already know. we know what the president did. the only question is what consequence should come because of it. all right. other big, big story going on in the country right now, the world's most wanted terrorist is gone. now, people should feel good about that politically, the president should brag about it, fine. now what? let's take that up with a

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bigger than bin laden, that's how this president is selling his successful raid in the death of abu bakr al-baghdadi, the isis leader.

what does it mean in terms of our collective safety? let's get perspective from someone who know, a congressman and veteran of the iraq and afghanistan wars, dan crenshaw. you're new to the show. i want to say thank you to your service that you did then and now. appreciate you. >> thanks, chris. thanks for having me on. to answer your question, it's a great moment for america. there's no bad news here. he was an awful terrorist leader and i'm glad he's gone. it done mean we can take our eye off the ball. there are going to be mid-level commanders who want to take his spot. there's still an insurgency of isis throughout the region that does think about how to kill americans and build their

caliphate over again. i'm glad it happened and the president approved it and thank my operations brothers for executing the mission. >> they are the best about that. i include you in their numbers. the rest of us give you our thanks. you touch on something where i'm sure a lot of your constituents are. bin laden, he was the big bad guy, he's gone. now there's baghdadi. this snake seems to regrow its heads. it's more of a worm than a snake in that sense. why are we safer now? how does this help us? how are we ahead of where we are before? >> the organization is naturally going to be in disarray when their leader is gone. that's a benefit of course. but the ideology still stands strong. we're going to be fighting this ideology for a long time. i like to be very honest with the american people about that fact and, frankly, i don't think politicians on either side have been very honest about that fact for years now, which is why we find ourselves in this debate of whether we should leave or stay.

>> it's not a debate for you, though? >> no, no, it's not a debate that -- >> for the american people and it's always tough for you guys who have to go and sacrifice and do the fighting to hear us say, you know, enough with it already, let these people fight their own fights. we don't want to have our dan crenshaws and all our great talent over there at risk. you didn't want to leave and you believed that the success with baghdadi is proof to you that you need to have a mentality of staying and doing more in the region. what do you think taking out baghdadi indicates about what our policy should be going forward? >> right. it's important to note that. so this good outcome that we all agree is a good outcome was a result of some kind of forward presence out in syria and iraq. you do need an intelligence picture of what's going on on the ground.

you need to have your human source network, you are need to have your signals intelligence. you need a place to launch uavs and special operations forces. you need to maintain alliances. so this -- i mean, this mission came from intelligence sharing with our allies, the sdf in this case. this is really important stuff, and if we like this outcome, we have to understand how it took place. i'll say this other thing to your comments about sending us over there. we can choose to let them fight themselves and not to -- and hope that they won't fight us, but we can't stop it.thr don't come here. we can choose not to fight that war but they don't have to choose that. they can still fight us we learned that lesson on 9/11 and i don't think we should ever learn it again. >> i get it's just politics and you're going to dismiss this but what the president says is very effective for people. i know better than the generals, these intelligence people can't be trusted, whether it's military intelligence or they're wearing suits, i don't care, i know better. i just took out al-baghdadi, i

got it done, we're leaving. >> he's responding to a lot of americans on right and the left, if this is even a partisan issue anymore. he's responding to a lot of americans who have this war wariness, and i get it. if you find yourself having to call the other side a warmonger or an endless war lover, that's dishonest. it's not true. there's good reasoning behind this. the world is a very small place. it's a 12-hour fly from the middle east. ideology travels even faster. they radicalize our own citizens, they've radicalized terrorists in europe. so this does have consequences. it's important to send guys like me over there to keep pressure on the enemy. to be fair to the president, he's now decided to keep some special ops troops in syria. >> he modified his position. i believe if you're just forced to do something that's better than you were doing before, that's leadership. let me ask you something, for those who don't know you, they should google and take the time.

you're a smart guy. you think critically and make videos about them. here's what i don't understand about the ongoing impeachment process. there's obviously going to be a new phase of this process for the democrats. there will be different rules and assessments. we'll see where that takes us. the american people will get to see a lot. what is wrong with this position? what the president did here is wrong. he shouldn't have asked this foreign leader to do what he asked the person to do, it could have been terrible but it wasn't. they didn't give him the dirt, he didn't hold up the aid, our relationship is okay and russia didn't get any advantage. what the president did was wrong, it didn't ruin us, it didn't them, i don't think he should be removed. >> what's wrong with the position for republicans? >> it's a little unclear -- >> what he did was wrong but he shouldn't have been removed. >> i'm not sure i agree with the premise he's done something

wrong. there's a theory about wrong doing but the facts don't back it up. >> you don't think he asked a foreign power to help him with a political opponent? >> there's a part to that question that departs from the facts that we have, which is the political side of it. did he ask about joe biden? we have the transcript. we can pretend that the military officer coming to testify taupe -- tomorrow is a bombshell but we have the transcript. the question we have to ask ourselves, is the president mentioning it because there's some kind of public interest? i would argue in this case there might be. our former vice president had a clear conflict of interest with his son being being a board member of a company that was being prosecuted by somebody that the vice president was trying to get fired.

it was a clear conflict of interest. whether it's illegal or not is a different debate but it's an obvious conflict of interest. it was also coming out in the news along the time of that phone call. so much it's not that crazy along with the oh issues of the election that the president was asking about that that is outside the public interest. that's an important point. >> it is. however, the premise of your situation misses something also. you're assuming the president learned about it when everybody else did and he didn't. he'd been coached about this largely by rudy giuliani for many months and he went after biden because he thought it would be good for him. >> but you just made an assumption there. you just read his mind, right? >> that's a little bit of a game that people play in politics. you don't need to play that game because you have reason on your side because i think he had a

legitimate public interest. maybe but it doesn't have to be his only interest. and there's no question on the facts that rudy giuliani was telling people in the state department what the president wanted him to say, which was, because he would tell people that, i want to go after biden, biden's a bad guy, he is an enemy of the president, volker, taylor, sondland, many others -- >> here's a question i have for you on that, chris. >> yes, sir. >> if something turns out good for the president, i guess, as you would put it politically but it's also in the public interest, then what's the right answer? >> under the law -- >> in this case it is in the public interest. >> under the law, you can look at the guidelines about this. if you have multiple points of interest in something and one of them helps new the election, you've got trouble. >> it wouldn't be campaign finance law -- that's a stretch. >> those case does stink and i think the enforcement of them is season worse but this is a conversation the country will have to have and men and women like you of goodwill will have to vote on it. thank why i wanted your head on it. thank you very much for helping you understand a national security issue. >> we'll come on more.

sorry it's taken so long. >> you're busy, the work of the people comes first. you're always welcome here. god bless and thank you for your service. >> thank you. >> it's good to hear where his head is. this is a big conversation. al-baghdadi dead on this president's watch. should he get credit? hell, yeah, he should but why is a win never good enough for this president? i have an argument for why that is next. introducing new vicks vapopatch easy to wear, with soothing vicks vapors for her, for you, for the whole family. new vicks vapopatch. breathe easy. ♪ ♪ ♪

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example, isis leader al baghdadi killed by u.s. troops. that's a win. potus is right to partly own the success. but listen. >> he was a sick and depraved man, and now he's dead. he's dead. he's dead as a doornail. he should have been killed years ago. another president should have gotten him. >> see? the second part is the problem. his win must also be a loss for obama. so now i got to compare and remind him and you what he said about president obama when it came to the raid that killed osama bin laden. that will now tarnish this win. listen. >> the military did an incredible job, and they called him, and they said, we have him. and he said, go get him. what's he going to say? don't get him? and he gets all this credit. it's a lot a crap. >> now it isn't?

see? that leads to this president's contribution in the instant circumstance, which was chiefly his controversial move to not have troops in the region anymore. that decision led intelligence officials to tell "the new york times," mr. al baghdadi's death in the raid on saturday occurred largely in spite of and not because of mr. trump's actions. another bungled bright spot for trump -- the economy. it's continuing its unprecedented almost decade of expansion. that's good. but good's not enough. it has to be the very best. the president likes to point to charts like this one. look at the dow. the dow is hovering around 27,000. great if you own stock. but most of you don't. unemployment, very low, true. but here's another chart that tells the rest of the story. wage growth largely stagnant. gains disproportionately going to the highest wage earners.

that's according to pew. so more people have jobs, yeah, but they're not having a better life. they're not doing more with their wages. and the president used to make that argument when he was still a citizen. again, the truth's not enough. the next example reveals why the president does it this way. the manipulation is his best way to win again. >> you have no choice but to vote for me because your 401(k)s down the tubes. everything's going to be down the tubes. so whether you love me or hate me, you got to vote for me. >> the proof here is in the prevarication. his latest event reveals how this president must exaggerate reality. friday, historically black benedict college in columbia, south carolina. the crowd, though, only a few dozen students were allowed in. most were told to stay in their dorms. safety precautions, they were told. the rest, political allies of the president. you see?

so if it's actually the best of times, why hide from those kids and potential criticism? it goes to the heart of the argument. if things are so good, why must this president be so bad to and about people? it's not the delusion of being a political demigod that threatens as much as insistence on being a demagogue. he could have cut taxes and regulations, increased security at the border, any other potential political positive without his profound draw to the negative. divide, distract, deceive, denigrate every process, protocol, every political institution, habits that have him on the edge of impeachment. and so it is, in what this president would have you believe the best of times, that it may wind up to be the worst of times for him and soon. now, on the good news front, president declassified a photo today of one of the heroes injured in the baghdadi raid. trust me, you're going to want to see this picture. that's next.

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