welcome to "the van jones show." tonight ends a big week in american history. the house of representatives formalized procedures that could lead to the impeachment of the president of the united states. that's huge. the only thing bigger was the partisan divide that was on full display when it went down. not one republican in the resolution, not one. only two democrats opposed it from conservative district in tight raises and going forward, he would expect more of the same and republicans will focus sideshows and stunts and no president would have the shadow

diplomacy. on the other hand. democrats will keep pooh poohing the concerns about due process forgetting that millions of republican voters also need to feel this process is fair. so listen, investigation should go forward, but we already pretty much know what we'll get, party line votes and vote chambers, trump still in office and deeper divisions in america. that's where we are. so if we've got to go through this, let's not make it worse by speaking about each other so harshly. house minority whip steve sdal ease accus scalise of holding, trump called his critics human scum and each republicans including a decorated war veteran and it's not just americans and you have people screaming lock him up.

he's attacking a fellow democrat and tulsi gabbard. people are smashing on ellen for sitting next to george w. bush at a cowboys game. and nastiness has taken over. i'm just as guilty myself. last weekend, i was in charleston, south carolina and for the first time in my life, presidential candidates from both parties including trump will be in one place, finally acknowledging that the prison system is too big, too bloated and too unfair and that is a big turnaround for recent years where republicans and democrats were promising more prisons, so i was pumped and then kamala harris pulled out because trump was being honored there. >> i know trump has caused a lot of pain and fear in our communities and it is very hard to see him get positive credit for anything sometimes. but on this one topic, he did sign a breakthrough bipartisan bill that has so far freed thousands of people from federal prison and that bill has sparked

copycat bills to state levels helping even more people. as much hell as we rightfully give trump when he does wrong, it is fair to give credit when he does something right. i tweeted out something snarky and black twitter tore me up, okay? you know what? they were right because my tone was off. i should have tweeted, kamala, please come, she came anyway, so did cory booker and mayor pete and donald trump and they all did a great job, history was made and rather than putting anybody down i should have been lifting up. in this toxic environment, all of us, myself included have to work hard to not let the nastiness pull us down. my next guests are case studies in taking the high ground and bringing people together, please welcome representatives max rose and mikie sherrill. [ cheers and applause ]

welcome. welcome. >> hi. welcome back, both of you. oh, my goodness. you, two are in purple districts. you weren't in a big rush and you weren't jumping around can't wait to impeach donald trump. were you surprised how partisan it was and how it was, and how do we get people to get around this? >> mikie and i were around, you're a good luck charm because we both won. >> i know. >> we have been in congress now for a year or so, and i can remember what it's like not to be in congress and when you turn on that tv, i remember seeing the news when i was deployed to afghanistan. you see elected officials just fighting with each other and it doesn't look like they're working with the facts and it looks like there is allegiance to politics and that's what i see happening right now. the republican party, you know, they have every opportunity as

we are looking at incredibly serious allegations backed up by very serious witnesses. this is credible stuff here. they have every opportunity to put the country and the constitution ahead of their own politics and as we enter into this second phase and these things become public, i certainly pray, and i hope that they'll start to put the country first. >> what are you guys hearing? you have very purple districts. trump won both of your districts? what do you hear when you go home? are they mad at you? are they proud of you? >> you hear from all different kinds of people which i think is really helpful and it makes us effective legislators to try to build the broad coalitions of people who need to push the country forward and the support for the investigation. i think people want to know exactly what happened. >> yeah. same thing with you? >> yeah, look, these are

patriotic districts. they're not trump districts and rose districts. what i often hear in my community is deep cynicism about the state of our politics. i often hear, well, max, i understand that donald trump may have done something wrong, but everybody does this, you know, and i don't trust the facts and this is a witch hunt. we can't ignore that cynicism as something of just stupid deplorables. people are incredibly bright and they're incredibly smart and cognizant of the fact that we've seen multiple generations of transactional politics and elected officials that have been bought off by a system and lied to their voters. we have got to invest in trust building and we should be coupling this with substantive and comprehensive anti-corruption efforts to earn people's trust back so the next time something like this happens irrespective of party they believe in their elected officials. >> i think max is exactly right here and that's what i've been saying.

we're not fighting against the perception that the president did something wrong. most people on beth sides of the aisle will admit that he did something wrong. he put his own self interests ahead of the interests of the united states and our national security. however, what people seem to be arguing over is this idea that, oh, that's what everybody does. we've never done that in our service to our country. we know tens of hundreds of people on both sides of the aisle that have never done that when they've always put their country first. so the cynicism and this deeply held cynicism in the electorate is worrying. >>eth above you are veterans and served honorably. what did you feel when you saw vindman when he went to testify be vilified as if he was a traitor to the country. >> that was horrible. we've served with people who weren't born in the country and

we've seen their honorable service and especially to see the lieutenant kernel and all he's done in his career it was important to me that people on both sides of the aisle in the house stood up and said that that was unacceptable. >> it's disgusting and anybody who echoes those sentiments has no right for the rest of their public facing career to ever claim the mantel of patriotism to ever claim the mantel of the flag because what is this country if not the beacon and magnet for anyone around the world that want ps to pursue th american dream for themselves and their loved ones as well. it was horrific. >> i wonder what you think of baghdadi. he was killed. i remember when obama got osama bin laden, democrats cheered, but there was immediate response from republicans and now i see the reverse. are you concerned that the country has gotten so political now that even when a major enemy of the united states is taken off the board half the country stays silent? >> i'm incredibly concerned

about that. we've seen the treatment of a lieutenant colonel by certain right-wing media because he's testifying about things that he feels he has to testify about, but they're not good for the president. we've seen a muted response from democrats on baghdadi. when it comes to issues of national security and patriotism and our allies across the world, this is where we should all be together. i serve on the house armed services committee. it is one of the most bipartisan committees in the house because we are interested in the future of the united states and keeping people here safe and that should be -- that should always be a shared value. >> look, i publicly offered my recognition of the president after baghdadi was killed. i think it's a good thing for our national security and i think it's a good thing for global security. he was evil and he got what he

was deserving of. we have to move beyond is celebrating these types of killings, and i certainly don't want to see our culture glorifying this type of violence, but it is certainly something that had to happen, and our soldiers put themselves in harm's way and they do it each and every day and there are missions run like that every week that we never hear about it and those missions that never make the news also deserve recognition. >> let's talk about syria and the abandonment of the kurds. how much damage does it do when donald trump and the united states walk away from the kurds who were our great allies and have left so much blood on the ground in syria, the kurds? >> we have fought alongside allies around the world for most of our career and we know how our allies promote our democracy and promote our power across the world and our ideals and to see us back away from the kurds who have fought alongside us and

carried the burden of the isis fight in syria when we as americans were already engaged in other wars and didn't have the will to send more troops in, the kurds have lost over 11,000 people. so this is not simply oh, we paid them money and a mercenary army. these are people who have given their lives to aid us in the fight against isis and then we abandon them. >> my issue here with what the president did is not that it didn't allow for a kurdistan to arise and we knew that was not going to happen and he did it without an alliance that we have isis prisoners streaming out of their jails putting not only western europe in danger, but the united states in danger, too, because remember this, the number one threat that we face today is the self-radicalized lone gunmen who have been radicalized online and they now have the image and the message of isis soldiers streaming out of jails and the resurgence of the caliphate and that something

that we don't want. >> both of you guys ran for office not talking about a, the stuff we were talking about. you were passionate about the opioid crisis, max. and you've been passionate about infrastructure and are you concerned because of impeachment and the division and some of the stuff that ran for office that won't be talked about. >> that was a republican talking point. they put millions of dollars into all of our districts saying overinvestigate does not legislate or something to that effect. let's look back to months ago, and three months ago, when it only gets sent to the senate to die in the legislate you have graveyard known as mitch mcconnell sentiment, it's had this that's killing robust and llgz is a fallacy. we're getting things done. sanctions put on chinese

pharmaceutical companies that are bringing fentanyl and killing kids throughout the country and throughout the world and there's still stuff happening here and the constitution has got to be upheld. we swore an oath to the constitution and not to politics and not to the democratic party and that's the same oath that we swore when we enlisted in the military and we're going to maintain a commitment to that. >> you get an amen for that. >> do i have an amen for that. that's exactly right and we'll continue to work on these things. we just passed last week two great veterans bills. we also passed a bill to make sure trent kelly pass the gold star families bill to make sure we have fellowships for veterans on the hill, so when we're making the life and death decisions to sendz troops ovsen and the sacrifices some families will make. we put money into infrastructure and we passed the first stand

alone gun bill, gun safety bill, universal background checks and it's been over t200 days that w passed it. we'll continue to pass good legislation for the american people and again, it's not impeachment that's holding us up and it's mitch mcconnell refusing to move forward on legislation that would help broad groups of the american people. >> you guys should be a lot louder about that. >> one last point and one thing we did also pass was a truly awe-inspiring pro-democracy and anti-corruption bill and hr1. mitch mock connell's voters voted to drain the swamp. so i'm eager to see what mitch mcconnell's word is, and what his message is to his own constituents as he lets hr-1 languish in the senate. mitch mcconnell is of the swamp and he's not draining and and he'll suffer the consequences. >> i appreciate having you both.

give them a round of applause. democracy, i love it. thank you, very, very much. >> now we'll go to california. the fires are continuing to rage in that state, threatening communities up and down the state. this seems like it's the new normal out there, but it's not normal. we'll hear what it's like to be on the ground and what we can be doing about this crisis from my friend, my next guest, the governor of the great state of california, gavin newsom when we co get back.

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have happened in the past 12 years and this is the impact of climate change and climate crisis playing out in front of our eyes. he's my good friend gavin newsom. give him a round of applause. right there. [ applause ] >> listen, i know how difficult it is out there. what are you seeing and how are the people of california holding up in this crisis? >> well, you're seeing humanity at scale. you're seeing heroism at scale. you're seeing remarkably talented firefighters, not just state firefighters, but those mutual aid that we count on from other states and the governor of oregon sent 75 employ ins down to california. the governor of washington state sent 25 additional engines and it's a remarkable moment and it gives you time to pause and reflect that people can come together across their differences. people can rise up and step up and so in that spirit, it's been enlivening, but of course, very,

very challenging. >> speaking of people coming together. you tweeted to president trump some thanks in appreciation. you guys don't usually get along. what have your conversations been like with him and the rest of the federal government. >> i haven't had a chance to dialogue directly and i've reached out to him, but his administration and his staff has been extraordinarily helpful. his national security/homeland security director has been helpful. we've asked for assistance and the fmag process, which is the fire management assistant grant and they've provided seven to the state of california. it's nice to see that at these times we're want not at crossha and not doing the dance, and there are fundamental differences that connect the dot as you have connected to the larger issues of climate change and fire suppression where we certainly don't see eye to eye. >> let's talk about the

challenges with the pg&e and the big utility out there and people are very frustrated. should pg&e be taking over? what needs to happen to get the utility on the side of fire suppression and not doing these blackouts all of the time? >> when i took the oath of office ten months ago they had just filed for bankruptcy coming out at the top of the show, coming out of the two most destructive wildfire seasons back-to-back, 2017 and 2018. people may recall the camp fire in northern california that took 85 lives and 19,000 structures were destroyed in that historic fire. that was it for that utility and as a consequence they filed for bankruptcy and we're doing everything in our power to reimagine that utility. they regardless, they're in the process, as you noted of these psps and these power safety shutoffs and these blackouts that impacted millions of california and you have these

wildfires on top of that and these blackouts and these two things cannot continue and this can't be the new normal and we'll hold them to account and have them come out of bankruptcy and it's decades of mismanagement, focusing on shareholders and public safety they got us here. years and years of disinvestment into undergrounding the utility, hardening their polls and transmission lines and segmenting their system with microgrids and making it more modern, and more resilient. they'll come out of this process completely reimagined utility and focusing on public safety and focusing on grounding and advancing the low carbon, green growth goals. >> i have my family in california and people are saying it's becoming unlivable because of the fires and the cost of living. talk about the horizon for a state like california, coming down on your shoulders and the rest of the state. >> let me just establish a

couple of frames of reference. california is enjoying record surpluses as the federal government is enjoying record deficits. we are significantly outperforming the rest of the nation. our domestic product meaning our economic growth, we're the fifth largest economy in the world. 115 consecutive months of net job growth, remarkably, this fire season has been below average. we actually were able to suppress the vast majority of these fires and heroism up and down the state in ways that we haven't in the past and we've pre-positioned more assets than we've ever had and the states are operating in extreme ways and we'll tackle homelessness and 3.75 million and we put them in the budget to jump-start our efforts and we're just getting started and the best days are in front of us and not behind us and don't believe these headlines for the totality and tell the whole story of the state of california. >> listen, i believe in you and i believe the state of

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♪ ♪ big tech is back in the spotlight. this week twitter ceo jack dorsey announced he's actually banning political ads from the social media site. he said political messages should be earned and not bought. he also says paying to increase the reach of political crease has significant ramifications that today's democratic infrastructure may not be prepared to handle. on the other hand, mark zuckerberg is defending facebook's handling of political ads when he was pressed about their policy of not fact checking those ads. we have to pay attention to all this stuff. luckily, some people have started to ask more questions about the algorithmic intelligence that impacts what shows up on our screens every day. let's face it. we are basically living in a

giant social experiment right now and the issue can get complicated. i put it down in an explainer to break it down for you. ? whenever you download an app or post a social media or shop online or browse around the interweb, websites are collecting your personal data and creating a profile of you. that can mean anything from your credit card information to your social security number, your search history, your household income and even your location. >> they have built a little data voodoo doll of each and every one of us. they know literally everything that we've ever touched. digitally, they have all of that data. >> it informs the facebook and instagram news feeds and we're seeing the full range of choices available us to, but we're not, we're only seeing the ones they give. >> buying and selling consumer data has big business. >> they collect it and distribute it and various vendors use it to target you with specific ads based on your virtual profile and the kicker is they don't even legally have

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all right now. senator elizabeth warren is answering her critics. she released her plan on how she'd pay for medicare for all. unlike bernie sanders, warren says no middle class tax increases period. she said the burden will fall on states, employers and the big business to pay for the $20 trillion price tag. i've been candid and i have concerns about medicare for all and i've been getting an earful from my progressive friends telling me that i'm wrong. so i said, listen, i want to have someone on here to help me see it a dint way and welcome

t the author and the co-chair, pramila jayapal on "the van jones show." all right. i can't tell you, i've known you for a long time and you've been a champion and hero, on a philosophical level, i don't even think we should have insurance for health period and insurance should be for stuff you're not sure about. you're not sure your house will catch fire, get fire insurance and you're not sure you'll get crop, get crop insurance. right now people do have health care insurance and so that's really, i think the rub. you can take something away from somebody. tell us about what's good about medicare for all. >> i want to tell you why i'm a believer and why i wrote the bill. >> yes. >> that is today in america people are dying because they don't have health care. >> sure. you've been across the country and you've heard this. this is not an issue we have to explain to everybody. they literally are seeing their

loved ones die. they are making choices every day about whether they'll pay their mortgage or whether they'll pay their cancer treatment. they're driving to canada because insulin costs 10 times as much in the united states of america. their primary insurance plan is go fund me. that is where we are today. we have 70 million people who are uninsured or underinsured and even if you have health insurance, the average person is paying anywhere from $10,000 to $20,000 even when we're considered. so we have a system that costs us $55 trillion over the next ten years and that's the cms estimate, and we are in a situation where that is because of the for-profit interests that are built into the system that put profits above patients. so i want a plan that is going to tackle the scale of the health care crisis in america, that is going to do two things, one, bring down costs over the long term because you cannot address this issue without

bringing down costs and number two, universally guarantee insurance to every single person and no differences in quality if you're rich or poor. >> nobody no one can argue with those as goals and they cost too much and people are left out, but there are real concerns that people have if we just put up on the screen. >> one is the idea that you're, limb nating choice and you'll force me on my private plan and you'll force me into some government plan that is too expensive and the middle class will pay more in taxes and let's walk through each of those. >> perfect. >> i like being able to choose stuff even if it's bad. i just ate a twinkie, so help me understand. >> we need to talk about that. >> exactly. help me understand how you respond to that concern that you're forcing people into something they may not want to do. >> we don't have choice today, even if you have private insurance. what choice do you really have?

you don't have a choice as to what plan you pick, your employer chooses that. in fact, more and more because of the rising health care costs insurance companies are limiting who you get to see, what hospital is in network or out of network and if you lose your job you really have no choice at all. you've got no health insurance and that's if you have insurance now. if you don't have insurance, what choice do you have now? so if that's choice, then i would rather have the choice of having a guaranteed insurance plan no matter where you work. you want to start a small business? you want to run a small business? you want to leave your job and go do something else? you get sick and need to stay home? you have to take care of a loved one? you have that choice. >> i have wanted to imagine that this idea of medicare for all who want it which mayor pete talks about would be a better option and you and i fought for the public option. that's another way of seeing the public option in the obama days. were you and i wrong. isn't there a way to get there

without forcing everybody on the same program? >> i will say that before the public option i fought for a single payer plan and that's what i was really fighting for. the public option was my fallback. >> here's what i found out and i spent two years crafting this bill and diving into the health care system. if you have a public option, i am convinced that that is going to be worse for us. >> why? >> it is going to cost us more and it is going to divide the country in such a way that the for-profit private insurance companies will game the system so they get the healthiest people on their plan, the sickest people go to the government plan and because they're still in the marketplace, they're still driving up costs. notice that the public option, medicare buy-in and all of those things, none of those have any way to bring down costs. the question to every candidate out there should not be just to the medicare for all folks, why does your plan cost what it does? it should be for everyone to say how are you bringing down costs

and how are you bringing it? >> i have not heard this argument made as clearly as you just did. i hope my viewers tune into this. >> you're saying that the public option that we all fought for it and thought was great and mayor pete was for. you're saying you've done the math and it will wind up backfiring because it will drive up the cost for all plans because the government will wind up -- >> that's right. it will not universally cover everyone. but here's the other fear i have about the public option. we want to win in 2020. we want to win in 2022 and 2024, and i will tell you that if we don't address this health care crisis we will lose -- we may win in 2020, but if the next president doesn't really have bold, structural reform we are going to be back where we were in 2016 and in 2024 it's going to be a disaster with many more lives lost. >> listen, you know more about the policy than me and you've thought it all of the way through and a lot of folks in our party don't agree with you.

pelosi said she's not a big fan. we have sharon brown from ohio and he thinks it's a bad idea. the governors of pennsylvania and wisconsin were on my show, purple swing states saying this is a very, very bad idea. >> right. >> let's talk about the politics of it. is this dividing democrats and scaring independents away? >> well, it shouldn't divide democrats, but regardless of what those folks say with lots of respect to them, i have delved into all of the polling across the country. i went to business school. i love data. i am a pragmatist when it comes down to it and the polling says a very different story. >> what does it is a? >> the polling says two-thirds of the country, 66% of the people across the country think that medicare for all is a great idea. van, can you think of another policy in this country where two-thirds of the american people agree? and look at impeachment as an example of what happens when democrats unite around a message, polling moves. polling is not static. so you can move it, but we just

have to be on the same message and we have to have the courage to take on the entrenched interest that are creating a for-profit system that puts profits over patients. >> we have people running for office that try to do some of these ideas and more. you are the co-chair of the progressive caucus. >> i am. >> you endorsed bernie early in 2016. where are you now? >> well, i haven't endorsed either. we have a hundred members in our caucus and 40% of the democratic caucus and i am so thrilled. i saw a poll today that said elizabeth and bernie are leading in iowa significantly more than even if you taked bien and buttigieg together. to me, that says progressives are winning, working people are winning, people of color are winning because they know that we need structural change in this country for everyone to have a shot. >> it sounds like you've got it narrowed down to one of those two. >> i've done bills with cory booker and kamala harris and others, but i've got to say it's down to those two.

>> one person you won't be able to work with anymore who i know you love and work with is katie hill and what do you think about her decision to resign? >> i wasn't able to go to her floor speech because i was up here, but i called her and i think she is a strong, resilient woman. she knows she made some mistakes and there's no doubt about this and the issue of revenge porn and the way in which these picture, hundred of pictures that they were threatening to release of her private life, she didn't want to be a distraction to what democrats are trying to do. i went out and campaigned for her. she was an incredible candidate and she was an incredible lawmaker. >> double standard for women on that? >> oh, always. i mean, what's new about that? that's true in almost every aspect of life. >> you know, she's lucky to have you in her corner and we're lucky in america to have you in our corner. thank you very much for being here. give her a big round of applause. [ applause ] >> now, look, if democrats want

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hip hop has become a major force in politics today whether jay-z pushing for criminal justice reform or cardi b. shouting out bernie sanders or kanye west wearing a megahat. there has been a big push to mobilize the hip hop community to come out and vote in 2020. last saturday politics was on the agenda at the revolt summit in los angeles. i was there hosting a panel and i also had a chance to catch up with some people off stage. take a look. ♪ >> you paying attention to the presidential candidates? anybody you like? >> bernie sanders. >> who do you like? >> i'd probably say bernie. >> some strong bernie buzz at the revolt summit in los angeles where i talked to some of the young folks about their thoughts on washington, d.c. and the campaign trail. do any of the candidates strike you as being on your side yet? >> i love bernie.

i love elizabeth warren. there are so many good democrats that it is not enough to take on the one republican. you know? >> in 2016 young voters were the only age group to increase turnout by about 1% but adults between 18 and 29 are still the least likely to vote. could we see a big change in 2020? what are the issues you think will motivate young folks to turn out in 2020? >> i don't know because i don't know if they believe in the federal process. >> wow. >> i think they've watched not just for the last four years but almost the last 12 years a congress that has by and large passed no pieces of legislation. no major pieces of legislation outside of the affordable care act. i think young african-americans want results and i don't know if they believe the candidates currently there will deliver those. >> if hip hop had its own political infrastructure what would it look like? >> black lives matter with

legitimate offices and chapters. black lives matter is hip hop. they are saying we don't trust the institutional infrastructure that always exists so until that happens it is going to be incredibly powerful but situationally unsustainable because we both know it is institutions that ensure sustainability of these movements not just the power of the culture driving it. >> we talk about how every election is the election of a lifetime. this one, real talk, the election of a lifetime. for me coming from a background of practicing law as an attorney and being before judges i think i can't overstate to young people the importance -- the president and his or her four or eight years is one thing. the impact they have on who they appoint to these federal benches across the country from district court level to appellate court level to the all maty high court the united states supreme court that is the most important aspect. if you're not motivated because you don't like a candidate, candidate is not sexy nauf for you, not cool enough for you i feel that.

we got to get out regardless. you don't get out in spite of. don't hold your nose. get out because the people that sit on these benches across the united states of america determine all of our futures. >> for the constantly connected generation some see positives and drawbacks to living life online. >> we're so attracted to our phones and our devices. we're so attracted to the technology but we don't know the privacy we're giving up when we do that. i just feel like for our generation we're learning how to kind of disconnect to reconnect in the proper way. >> why do you feel so much about digital privacy? why is that something young people worry about? >> we've seen it happen. >> seen what happen? >> mark zuckerberg and the facebook thing going on right now. they are selling our information. we just want to share photos with our grandma, bro. you know? i don't want to give up all my digital assets. >> we grew up with the technology era. we don't have the luxury of you have to actually go to go see

someone rather than, we can just text them now. our face is always in our phones now at night looking and watching. >> is it good or bad? >> that's bad. i think we need to go back into actually meeting people nowadays. we're more on, we can see you but we don't see you. >> what due think about your generation makes you capable of doing things, or the early generation being able to get it right? >> we are the most connected generation the planet has ever seen. i mean, what's the basis change, right? it is connection. social media could be good, could be bad. you know? but it provides that platform quite literally for the whole world to connect, have empathy for each other, see what is going on. we are no longer in the dark. >> i ran into killer mike back stage. he is endorsing bernie sanders again for president. back in 2016 he got nah controversy for suggesting black voters should stay home after bernie lost the nomination. >> i know you are a very strong supporter of bernie sanders. why should hip hop support

bernie sanders? >> why should hip hop not? your community, hip hop has been more decimated by things like student loans, more decimated by things like diabetes and cancer. has been more decimated by illegal marijuana stops and convictions. why would you not? >> if the democrats come up short in terms of the progressive side if there is another nominee that is a moderate what is the right way forward? last time i think we held back. we wound up with donald trump. if it happens again what should we do? >> people should get out locally and feigned o-- find out who yor representatives are. i am a sanders supporter. i think he is the opposite of trump. you don't beat magneto without professor x. should you lose do not hold your head down going home sobbing and crying. go home, plan, strategize, organize, and mobilize. >> would part of that strategy be to include voting for a moderate if you had to to come down against trump?

>> again, national campaigns do not affect your life as much as local campaigns. so if you lose, lick your wounds, shake the other person's hand, go home, and vote anyone in locally who is reflective of who you would have supported nationally. >> thank you. two separate people raised the lack of interest and distrust of the federal process and federal elections. that is something everybody should pay a lot of attention to. listen, thank you for tuning in. thank you to all my guests. thank you for watching. i'm van jones. peace and love to one another. [cheers and applause] y ♪ ♪ spread a little something to remember ♪ philadelphia cream cheese. made with fresh milk and real cream makes your recipes their holiday favourites. the holidays are made with philly.

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