for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. you can follow me on twitter and instagram@wolfblitzer. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. next, breaking news, sources tell cnn the president sugge suggesting people who have testified against him be led go as aides close to the president are now pushing back. republicans said to be shaken by the testimony of a state department aide who overheard trump's phone call to eu ambassador sondland. 2020 candidates andrew yang taking on joe biden and what the former vp calls a gateway drug. yang is my guest. let's go "outfront." president trump retaliating. cnn learning that trump wants to get rid of impeachment witnesses still working at the white house. we're talking about witnesses

like lieutenant colonel alexander vindman who will be testifying public by before the nation tomorrow. he's the white house's top ukraine expert and was on the call between trump and zelensky. vindman testifying he was so disturbed by the conversation that he reported it to lawyers twice. trump already tried to smear vindman's reputation calling him a never trumper. >> what evidence do you have that vindman is a never trump per? >> we'll be showing that to you real soon. >> so far the president has shown us nothing. the president claiming jennifer williams, a special adviser to vice president mike pence, trump calling her a never trumper, too, even though she was hand picked by pence's national security adviser. now williams and vindman are among nine witnesses who will be testifying publicly this week. it is a crucial week.

it is make or break for democrats. if williams' upcoming testimony televised is consistent with what she said under oath behind closed doors in her deposition, she'll say of trump's call with the ukrainian president that i would say, quote, it struck me as unusual and inappropriate, a word that directly contradicts what trump has said again and again and again. >> the perfect call. and highly appropriate. >> totally appropriate. absolutely totally appropriate. >> totally perfect and appropriate. >> highly appropriate and perfect. >> all right. we have a lot to get to. i want to start with pamela brown out front live outside the white house. this is your reporting on the president wanting to send some of these people detailed to the white house away. how are the president's aides responding to this? >> reporter: that's right. me and my colleague have learned that white house aides have explored moving some impeachment witnesses on loan to the white

house from other agencies such as lieutenant colonel vindman who will be testifying tomorrow back to their home agencies ahead of schedule. one source tells me that even includes vindman's brother who was a key witness as an nsc lawyer. trump is asking how witnesses came to work for his administration, sources say he suggested again they be dismissed. white house advisers, erin, warned that any such move could be viewed as retaliation. i'm the olderly on when administration officials began testifying, the white house had decided it would not fire them because of those retaliation concerns, but that, of course, is being tested as of late as these public hearings breathe new life into the allegations. over the weekend a gop talking point emerged, erin that trump was well within his rights to choose his own team. that was response to the former ambassador who testified on friday, her public recounting of the smear campaign orchestrated by trump's allies to push her

from her post and ukraine. a day later trump himself suggested he had already fired the three state department employees who appeared in public impeachment hearings. he quoted conservative radio host rush limbaugh. that has not happened but the uncertainly created a thorny situation at the white house ahead of several public hearings this week involving administration officials, erin. >> pam, in terms of what happens here, do you have any censor is this sort of everybody a wait and see what the president decides to do with his often mercurial attitude. >> reporter: there is a wait-and-see attitude. right now there are discussions happening at the white house about moving these nsc staffers back to their home agencies ahead of schedule. one official i spoke to said there has been pushback internally because it could look like realation, even just moving them back to their home agency. as you know the national security adviser to the

president is doing an aggressive restructuring of the nsc. that could potentially be folded into that. >> pamela, thank you very much reporting live from the white house. let's go to david cicilline who sits on the house judiciary committee which will be drafting articles of impeachment. i appreciate your time. you hear this recording, that the president is considering getting rid of people detailed to the white house. that could include mr. vindman, ms. williams, and sending them back in those cases to the state department. would you have a problem with the white house doing that? >> of course. look, these are extraordinary patriots who came forward, who told the truth, who described the president, his effort to essentially bribe the ukrainians to investigate his chief political rival and holding up military assistance that was approved by congress to add additional leverage to that demand. this is shocking behavior of the

president. these witnesses have served their country both as military leaders, leaders in the foreign service. they're incredible patriots. they provide incredible and damning testimony about the president's grave misconduct. the idea that the president would be focused on trying to punish them for coming forward and telling the truth about this very, very disturbing behavior is really appalling. these individuals should be celebrated. they're patriots. they came forward and testified honestly about the serious misconduct of the president. >> the president when talking about jennifer williams who, of course, is detailed to vice president pence's staff, she's going to testify tomorrow. trump tweeted about her today. tell jennifer williams, whoever that is, to read both transcripts of the presidential calls and see the just released statement from ukrainian, then she should meet with the other never trumpers who i don't know and mostly never heard of and work out a better presidential

attack. when ambassador yovanovitch came out and testified, he came out and disparaged her. you called that witness tampering and a crime. do you consider what he did to jennifer williams today also witness tampering and a crime? >> this is the president of the united states clearly trying to discourage witnesses from coming forward and testifying truthf truthfully before the congress of the united states. he initially tried to prevent witnesses from complying with subpoenas at all. the dam has broken. great patriots have come forward and responded to lawful subpoenas or requests to appear before congress and to testify. i think is a president who is very concerned about what these witnesses are saying. they're credible, testifying under oath, providing very clear evidence that the president of the united states pressured a foreign leader to begin an investigation, a phony investigation against his chief political rival and interfere with an american presidential

election. the president's behavior is wrong. it is illegal to try to intimidate a witness from coming forward. the good news is, despite his best efforts, these great patriots are continuing to come forwa forward. >> when you say it's illegal and it's a crime, you're on the judiciary committee, you'll be drafting articles of impeachment. are you going to put things like this in there? do they strengthen your case or water it down because they're separate from the core issue with which you're concerned? >> we have a responsibility as members of the judiciary committee to take all the evidence, the evidence we've collected, the evidence collected by the intelligence committee as relates to the ukrainian scandal and make judgment about articles of impeachment should be fooip filed and what they should be. you're way ahead of us. we're awaiting the final report from the intelligence committee. we'll look at the conduct of the president, all the facts and determi make a determination.

>> do you suspect they'll have to give you that report concurrently with the testimony they're hearing, once they're done this week, they should be able to get you something fairly quickly? >> i hope so. this is a busy week, nine people testifying this week. they've been hard at work. we want of course to be thorough and careful and be complete. they'll finish it when they finish it. the judiciary committee awaits that report. >> i also want to ask you about the other testimony, colonel vindman. he was on the call, one of the people that the president may want to obviously send back to the state department. he reported his concerns about the call and the president's dealings with ukraine at least twice to lawyers. his boss, tim morrison, the top ukraine official was also on the call. the transcript of morrison's closed door deposition was released over the weekend. i want to read you the operative line of what he said about colonel vindman.

he says of vindman, quote, i had concerns about lieutenant colonel vindman's judgment and fiona hill and others had raised concerns about alex's judgment. does this give you pause? >> not at all. i had the opportunity to see vindman testify. the american people will have the same opportunity this week. this is a man who has served his country in extraordinary ways, a decorated military officer, someone who is credible and trustworthy, who provided very, very important evidence during the course of his deposition. the american people will see that. i think there has been an effort by some of my republican colleagues to attack this war hero. i think it's disgraceful. this is a man who served his country, had the courage to come forward when he saw something that was wrong and reported it. we should remember ukraine is a kurnt under attack in an active war with the russians. military aid from the united states was their lifeline. the president of the united states held that up until he

could get a promise for a meeting and a promise to open a phonily investigation. colonel vindman is an extraordinary witness. i think the american people will find him very credible. >> thank you, congressman cicilline. next, breaking news. the quote, shaken by a state department aide's testimony that he heard trump directly, heard his voice asking about investigations in ukraine. that aide now scheduled to testify publicly. plus new questions about president trump's health this evening. is the white house hiding something? president obama's former doctor is out front. we'll travel to a state that trump won by less than one percentage point and ask how voters there feel about the impeachment investigation. >> whether i like the man or not is immaterial. impeachment, it's pretty drastic.

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breaking news. republicans tonight shaken, that's the word in quotes, by the testimony of state department official david holmes. holmes worked in the united states embassy in ukraine. he is the one that overheard president trump's phone call with eu ambassador gordon sondland. he said, quote, ambassador sondland went on to state that president zelensky, squoet, loves your ass. i heard president trump asked, so he's going to do the investigation. ambassador sondland replied, quote, he's going to do it. adding that president zelensky will do anything you ask him to. democrats just announced moments ago that holmes will testify. out front john dean, david

gangel and david urban. jamie let me start with you. this is your reporting. shaken is the word you are using of how some republicans field about david holmes testimony. what are you hearing? >> this is reporting also with my colleague kristen holmes. what we're hearing is according to one congressional gop source several gop lawmakers were, quote, more shaken by david holmes' testimony than they have publicly let on, that behind closed doors they expressed a lot of frustration about sondland's testimony in light of what david holmes said and that we're also hearing that they're now very worried about sondland's testimony. we've been told by multiple sources that he was ill fitted to being a diplomat, that multiple sources in the diplomatic community thought

that he was in over his head, and they're really worried about what he's going to say on wednesday and how far he will go. >> look, obviously sondland's testimony is now going to be crucial. david, look, some republicans -- you heard jamie talking about this -- say holmes has made the most convincing argument yet. obviously a big part of that is that he heard trump's voice. that's what he testified under oath, he heard trump's voice through the phone because it was so loud, that sondland had to take it away from his ear and he was clearly able to hear the president of the united states. in that case it's not hearsay. that takes away that argument. how big of a deal could holmes' testimony be? >> so, erin, i'd just like to -- let's ask what point is holmes making? this is the day after the 25th call, this is the 26th. >> of july. >> he's listening to one end of

the call and he says he hears the president say so they're going to do the investigations. that's what his alleged testimony is. i'm not quite sure what's so earth-shattering about that. that's been reported. he heard it in a cafe. let's assume his hearing was correct. i still don't see what's groundbreaking about that or is the cause for all this breathless reporting. >> just to make the simple point, but many republicans are saying it's hearsay, no one heard the president of the united states say it. holmes, if he heard what he says he heard, it's no longer hearsay. that's the president of the united states. so i don't know on that point -- >> but gordon sondland says it, too. >> i want to ask you about that. he is going to testify publicly. he's changed his testimony. originally there was no quid pro quo and now there was. in holmes' testimony, he said, quote, i asked ambassador sondland if it was true that the

president did not give a blank about ukraine. sondland agreed. i asked why not and ambassador sondland stated that the president only cares about big stuff. i note there was big stuff going on in ukraine like a war with russia. he sameant big stuff that benefs the president like the biden investigation that mr. giuliani is pushing. holmes is going to testify to this publicly. how significant do you think this will be, that we can all hear it, not just read it? >> i think there are a couple of things happening. first of all, there is some significance in what he overheard. i think there's more significance in the position that places sondland, who has not been a forthcoming witness, who is now surrounded by not only holmes but others who were present for that meeting as well as holmes taking it back to the

embassy and contemporaneously sharing it with others, which is further corroboration. this thrusts holmes in a position where he really is in the forefront of all of this. it could either show him not being forthcoming with congress or even being correct in his congressional testimony. we don't know it all. so i think this makes not holmes but sondland the star witness, and holmes is pushing him out there in front and putting him right at the center of all this. >> david, it's hard to argue anything else. everybody will be watching gordon sondland incredibly closely. this is the person talking to the president regularly about all this. >> i agree. sondland's characterization that you just read, it's just that, his characterization. his belief about what the president wanted and liked and

believed in ukraine. sondland didn't say i talked to the president directly and he told me x, y and z. come on, he doesn't believe this is important, he only cares about the big stuff. how does he know that? what does he base that upon? >> do you think ambassador sondland david, who says whenever he aukd to the president in the morning was a bad news, literally would make up the joe biden point? that's the part that just defies reason. >> i think we have to watch and see what ambassador sondland testifies to. he had problems in his testimony. i think ambassador is going to be very careful and measured about what he says when he appears before congress this time. >> can i just add two things? first of all, there were other people at the table and there's some reporting that they also overheard this conversation. so it may go beyond david holmes. but another thing the

republicans are very concerned about that we talked to is where this call happened. it happened in a restaurant. it was on a phone that was not secure. we've had multiple national security experts say on our air in the last couple of days that very likely means that russia has a recording of it, ukraine has a recording of it, other intelligence services have a recording of it. so it's not just david holmes' word. it's gordon sondland who was on the call. he's never admitted that call happened before. david holmes heard it. it sounds as if there was one other person at the table that heard it. >> we understand there may have been at least one other and there was four total. >> clearly bad judgment to do a call like that in public. >> i think everybody can agree on that. thank you all very much. next president trump making a mysterious trip to walter reid hospital. the white house saying there's

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tonight no public events on president trump's schedule for the second day in a row after his mysterious trip to walter reid hospital on saturday. the white house says trump was getting a head start on his annual physical exam which had been -- would be a year in february, but the trip to walter reid was not scheduled. a source says it did not follow

the protocol for a routine presidential medical exam. pamela brown is back with us from the white house. what more do you know about the president's trip to walter reid. >> reporter: the president's visit had a series of anomalies. for context, erin, the president had his annual physical this past february during the workweek and it was announced a hi owed time that was going to be happening. by contrast, erin, the president went to walter reid went by mode tore cade, not marine one as is standard practice weather permitting. medical staff at walter reid didn't even get any advanced notice about this visit. typically medical staff would get notice about a vip visit to the center, notifying some closures at the facilities for security protocols. trump can get lab work done here at the white house, but a walter reid visit may indicate he needed certain testing like

images. white house press secretary stephanie grisham is denying that this has anything to do more than just getting a partial physical exam out of the way. he was there for a couple of hours. she said he had a free day and so that's why he wanted to do it. he also said he has been working since early this morning. he looks great, feels great. we should note that following that visit he did have people over to the white house to watch a movie. but certainly all these circumstances i have just pointed out raised questions about that visit. >> thank you very much, pamela. those details are important. dr. david shiner, president obama's former doctor. doctor, they're saying he wanted to get ahead of things because it's going to be a busy election year. does it sound plausible to you that this would be part of his routine physical? >> absolute nonsense. you don't take a part of your physical one time and a month or two later take another part.

i never heard of anything like that. his physical for the kinds of things he needs, the whole thing could have been done at the white house. no reason. blood tests, electrocardiogram. he's had stress tests done before. there's no procedure other than it was part of a routine exam that could not have been done in the white house. that's absolute balderdash. i think he had, not an emergency necessarily, but an urgency, something went wrong. maybe he had chest pain. maybe he had some neurologic -- i think he is someone who has some neurological issues which no one has ever really adressed. i think it's quite possible that his physician did not feel that he could handle it himself. his physician is not an internist as is usually the case in primary care. his physician is a trained er physician. it may be he sent him to walter reid for a problem that he did not feel he could handle arizona

well as was necessary. >> so the white house, of course, says that this is routine. press secretary stephanie grish ham was on fox this weekend. here is what she said. >> he is healthy as can be. i put a statement out about that. he's got more energy than anybody in the white house. that man works from 6:00 a.m. until, you know, very, very late at night. he's doing just fine. >> you know, she pointed out, dr. scheinor, he's going to these rallies, the guy certainly does not sleep very much. does she have a valid point, that he has a lot of energy? >> he may have energy, but on the other hand, when he plays golf which is his physical exercise, he always uses a cart. so the only exercise he gets is swinging a golf club. the other thing is the cardiologist after his last physical exam said he was in the

upper 20% in terms of cardiovascular risk. he's got some real risk factors. his inability to say words sometimes worries me tremendously. he is having trouble word finding, when he said united shush instead of the united states. these are words, he can't find them. this is happening over and over again. comedians joke about it. it's not a joking matter. i think there's a neurological issue that's not being addressed. if he had an mri of his head over there, i would be very pleased. i think he needs it. >> is that something that could have happened in the two-hour time that he was there? >> yes, it certainly could. the worry that i have is that maybe he's having small strokes. we lad that once before in the white house when woodrow wilson was president. his inability to find words is peculiar and has not been explained and i think one has to

think of it as a possible neurological issue. >> you have expressed concern about this president, but also with the ages of several of the leading candidates. a september general aaron as well as if michael bloomberg gets in the race, at least three others, four others that would make it on the democratic side. does this comincern you in general? >> i'm expert since i'm an octogenarian. you lose things as you get older, no question. your creativity, your ability to handle problems, your innovative skills, yes, it worries me tremendously. sanders -- even warren. trump is 73 now. he'd finish his president if he has a seconds term at 78. things happen and the brain does not function as well when you reach these kinds of ages. yes, i'm tremendously worried about that. >> i appreciate your time, dr.

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tonight president trump lashing out at the impeachment inquiry calling it a fraud, tweeting in part, quote, never has the republican party been so united as it is now. this is a great fraud being played out against the american people. but it's on the minds of voters in key swing states like wisconsin. trump won the state by less than one point in 2016. so miguel marquez is there talking to voters about what impeachment is having in terms of the impact on how they'll vote. >> reporter: third generation farmer greg lore on the fence. >> in 2020, what are you going to do? >> still undecided. >> reporter: dairy cows and harvesting an already late crop

a bigger worry than impeachment. >> i think they should just forget about that and just worry about the issues at hand and try to help people. they're just -- there's going to be a new election in another year i guess. >> reporter: on impeachment, wisconsin northwest of madison, divided as ever. farmland and picture postcard towns where the ringling bros. got their start. in 2016 candidate trump won this rural county by 109 votes. doris lore is an independent who supported hillary clinton. she dislikes the president but isn't sure there's enough to remove him from office. >> we need to be unified. we need to -- we're not making progress in america. we're going downhill. >> reporter: the county's divisions obvious at a regular democratic protest of the president, they get support as

much as thumbs down among other less polite gestures. mike and carrie walker co-owners of the touchdown tavern both describe themselves as moderate conservatives, both parted third party in 2016. she's opposed to abortion rights but is considering a democrat. >> can either of you see yourselves voting for a drk in 2020, and which one if so? boy that was a pained expression. >> i will tell you, i love andrew yang. >> obviously he's very smart. >> and he's funny. >> reporter: on impeachment they haven't decided whether the president crossed the line. >> i don't think it's a witch hunt. i don't think it's a waste of taxpayer dollars. i think we need to go through this. >> reporter: veteran business owner and independent voter greg snell says he doesn't like trump, but impeachment? >> i believe it's a pretty drastic step, whether i like the man or not is immaterial. impeachment is -- that's pretty

drastic. >> reporter: dan shea lives paycheck to paycheck. he voted for trump, now so disillusioned he switched parties. >> where is sauk county now? >> a toss-up. he's going to come here, work his butt off and try to win the state back. >> so miguel, trump won wisconsin by a small margin, but there are many who believe that could be the most crucial state coming up. he won the county by where you are tonight by an even smaller margin than he won the state. how hard fought will wisconsin be? >> reporter: this state is the new ohio essentially. it's going to be ground zero. both parties are going to pour everything into it. the democrats have their convention here. republicans say it's trending more conservative, so they think they can keep it in their column. the way the electoral college stacks up and the way it could break in some of these states, ten little electoral votes here in wisconsin could make the difference of winning the white house or being out. erin?

>> pretty incredible how every vote counts so much. thank you, miguel. next, you just heard a voter in miguel's piece say she liked andrew yang. well yang is "outfront" next. forget, i'm not a crook, jeanne moos on what has become the most famous impeachment line. >> do us a favor. >> do us a favor though. >> do us a favor though. t more d into the golden years. with better heart treatments, advanced brain disease research, and better ways to age gracefully. at bayer, this is why we science. a stampede unleashed 55 years ago. built for freedom, power and rebellion. and just when you think you know where they're going. they do something unexpected. something that moves us all forward and holds nothing back.

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new tonight, legalizing pot, andrew yang references the iconic series "breaking bad" with a tweet you see there of him surrounding by drugs and a hazmat suit. he did it to highlight his support for legalizing marijuana. the tweet by one of the democratic front-runners for 2020, here is joe biden. >> the truth of the matter is, there's not nearly been enough evidence that has been acquired as to whether or not it is a

gateway drug. it's a debate. i want a lot more, before i legalize it nationally, i want to make sure we know a lot more about the science behind it. >> "outfront" democratic candidate for president andrew yang. you think marijuana should be legalized nationwide. joe biden says he wants more evidence, he's concerned it could be a gateway drug. are you sure biden is wrong? >> most americans agree we should be legalizing marijuana at the federal level, in part because it's already legal in several states. many americans are already using it for pain relief, and it's safer than prescription opiates in most every case. we also know when we administer these marijuana laws, we're deeply uneven and even racist in the way we administer these laws. most americans agree that we should legalize marijuana. that's where i am. i believe that joe actually will end up evolving on this issue over time if he sees the same

evidence i have. >> on that front, there are a lot of confusing studies on pot as we all know. you've got cannabis-related er visits in colorado tripled since it was legalized. another one says essentially no increase in violent crime. you can get different outcomes depending which study you look at. what makes you so sure that full legalization won't open the door to a pandora's box we may deeply regret just because there's a lot we don't know? >> erin, there's a difference between legalization and complete lack of regulation. there are legal substances in this country like tobacco that there are strict rules around. for example, you can't advertise on school grounds. marijuana is not something we should just have out there completely free and easy, but it should be legal so that we can regulate it properly, make it safer and more standard for

americans and also have some of the tax revenues that can help us counteract any of the negative effects. >> so in addition to marijuana, you obviously are at odds with some others, different others on another issue. senators sanders and warren are in favor of a wealth tax which you have said could be, your words, a disaster in practice. obviously some who would be affected by it are speaking out. they're saying they're being vilified which has led to these comments from senator sanders and senator warren. here they are. >> i want to point >> i just want to point out i hurt some billionaires' feelings lately. boo hoo. so sad. so sad that they might have to pay two cents out of their bazillion dollars? >> worth a hundred billion, worth 50 billion, suddenly they're in tears. oh, my god we're going to have

to pay more in taxes. how do we get by on $30 billion? such a stress. >> of course it's more complicated than that. do you think they are vilifying the wealthy? >> to me, erin, it is about what's going to work in practice? and it is true we're in the midst of the most extreme winner take all economy in our nation's history and we need big measures to help solve that. but when france, germany, denmark, and sweden all tried a wealth tax they ended up repealing it because it had massive implementation problems and it did not generate anywhere near the revenue they had hoped for. so if it hasn't worked in these other countries i think it would not work here for some of the same reasons. to me it's less about the emotions of certain people who are being called out. it's more about what's going to work in practice and how we can actually rebalance this economy and rewrite the rules so it works for us. >> just in wisconsin, and people

here watching the program heard his show, another key state which president trump won in 2016. miguel was talking to them about what people there think about impeachment and he spoke to a couple who owns a tavern. they say they are moderate conservatives. they both voted for third-party candidates in 2016. i want to play the exchange for you. >> reporter: can either of you see yourselves voting for a democrat in 2020? and which one if so? [ laughter ] >> reporter: boy, that was a pained expression. >> it is pained. i will tell you, i love andrew yang. >> obviously he is very smart. >> oh, and he's funny. >> all right. so what do you do? what do you do to get people like that, moderate conservatives, again, is how they describe themselves, to support you? >> well, erin, i'm laser focused on solving the problems that got donald trump elected. if they're working in a small business they're seeing their foot traffic might be going down. some of the businesses around them are closing. these are the problems that got

trump elected. and if we put money, buying power into the customers of that bar's hands, then you're going to see more business, they might have to hire more servers. i'm so glad that they're open to my message and it's not just them. i have met with individually and seen on the road hundreds even thousands of disaffected trump voters who say they are excited about me and my campaign because it seems like i'm solutions oriented and i just want to try and improve americans' lives. >> all right. thank you very much, andrew yang. good to talk to you, sir. >> erin, always. thank you. see you soon. >> next, on the history making moments of the impeachment investigation thus far. and tomorrow. because when you're with fidelity, there's nothing to stop you from moving forward. ♪ spread a little love today

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>> reporter: every impeachment has its most memorable lines, from the guy being impeached -- >> well i'm not a crook. >> reporter: -- from staffers caught on the watergate tapes. >> we have a cancer within close to the presidency that's growing. >> reporter: that's water under the bridge. we now have ukraine-gate and already it has a famous line. >> i would like you to do us a favor though. >> i would like you to do us a favor. >> i would like you to do us a favor -- though. >> reporter: the democrats sure know how to give it that sinister twist. back in nixon's time there were no tweets. >> the president just sent a tweet. >> a tweet? >> reporter: now impeachment tweets end up as testimony. >> everywhere marie yovanovitch went turned bad. she started off in somalia. how did that go? >> it's very intimidating. >> trump started off in atlantic city. how did that go? >> reporter: some things never change. the watergate tapes were littered with expletives deleted.

and now president trump -- >> did not give a expletive about ukraine. >> reporter: back then we had -- tricky dick. now we have -- >> shifty schiff. >> shifty schiff. >> shifty schiff. >> reporter: we may be watching history but sometimes it's the little things that stick. >> representative jackie sphere has something in her hair. it's a paper clip. >> reporter: little things like that big bottle from which a witness chugd. george kent stays hydrated. saving democracy one gulp at a time. with all of that liquid intake, you'd think he would have been less ambivalent about a break. >> would you gentlemen like a brief recess? well, let's take a fave-minuive recess. >> reporter: we're all going to need a recess from these expletive not deleted hearings. >> what i understand is

president zelensky loves your ass. >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn, new york. [ laughter ] >> i'm sorry. thanks for joining us. you can watch outfront anytime anywhere. ac 360 with anderson starts now. good evening. what was already an important week in the impeachment inquiry just got that much more interesting. that is on top of new cnn reporting. sources tell cnn president trump has again said he wants to fire witnesses who have testified against him in the impeachment hearings prompting his aides to consider moving those witnesses, some of them out of the white house and back to their home departments within the government. late today we learned about a new addition to the list of now nine officials and former officials going before the house intelligence committee on television starting tomorrow. the ninth is david holmes a seasoned diplomat and a staffer at the u.s. embassy in kiev.