netanyahu is facing an indictment. charges of bribery, fraud and breach of trust against the sitting prime minister, a first in the city's history. he describes the charges as an attempted coup. he insists he will not resign. thanks for watching. erin burnett "out front o" now. out front next, democrats full speed ahead as a key witness destroys the president's conspiracy theory, plus where is john bolton? new testimony points to the former national security adviser as an essential witness. will when he talk? >> and the gop talking points shattered. let's go out front. good evening. i'm erin burnett. out front tonight, breaking news. full steam ahead and they are moving to the impeachment of president donald j. trump. sources tell cnn a vote could come within weeks and this vote

comes after the most contentious hearings. fiona hill debunking one of the conspiracy theories that it was ukraine and not russia to interfere in the 2016 to help democrats. >> based on questions and statements i've heard, some of you on this committee appear to believe that russia and its security services did not conduct a campaign against our country and that perhaps, somehow, for some reason ukraine did. this is a fictional narrative that is being perpetrated and propagated by the russian security services themselves. >> a fictional narrative and she's not trying to be subtle. she's saying anyone who pushes those conspiracy theorys is an unwitting russian agent helping putin. hill also attacking trump's efforts. president trump's ambassador to the eu about the investigations. >> he was being involved in a domestic, political errand and i did say to him, ambassador

sondland, i think this is all going to blow up, and here we are. >> a domestic political errant. seven public hearings and 12 witnesses including david holmes, a state department staffer in ukraine who also took the stand today and detailed his conversation with sondland. >> ambassador sondland agreed that the president did not give an expletive about ukraine. i asked why not? ambassador sondland stated that the president only cares about big stuff, big stuff that benefits the president like the biden investigation that mr. giuliani was pushing. >> and that was just the start of a crucial day in the impeachment investigation. alex marquardt is out front with more. >> reporter: scathing testimony today, david holmes and dr. fiona hill laying out first-hand accounts of the political demands that the president was making of the ukrainians in order for them to get a white house meeting and eventually military aid. >> it became very clear that the white house meeting itself was

being predicated on other issues. hill, who grew up in england and is the white house's former top russia expert also chastising republicans for pushing a conspiracy theory that it was ukraine that meddled in the 2016 election. >> i refuse to be part of an effort to legitimize an ultimate narrative that the u crawnikrai government and not russia attacked us in 2016. she had several testy encounters with the u.s. ambassador to the european union gordon sondland as he pushed for the investigations and then she realized there were two competing ukraine policies. >> he was being involved in a domestic political errant and we were being involved in national security foreign policy and those two things had just diverged, and i did say to him ambassador sondland, i think this is all going blow up and here we are. >> hill wasn't the only one. her then boss, john bolton told her that the errant that

sondland was working on was a drug deal. >> ambassador bolton looked pained, basically indicated with body language that there was nothing much we could do about it and he then in the course of that discussion said that rudy giuliani was a hand grenade that was going to blow everyone up. >> on july 26th at a restaurant in kiev sondland called trump on an unsecure cell phone to tell him that the ukrainians were agreeing to invest gagds aigati across from him was david holmes. >> i've never seen this in my career, someone at a lunch making a call on a cell phone to the president of the united states, being able to hear his voice, very distinctive personality. >> sondland described how he held the voice away from his ear. >> ambassador sondland replied y and went on to state that president zelensky, quote, loves your ass. i then heard president trump ask so he's going to do the

investigation? ambassador sondland replied that he's going do it, adding that president zelensky will do anything you ask him to do. >> zelensky was being asked by trump, via sondland to investigate the energy company burisma which hunter biden was on the board of and had become a nickname into the investigation into the bidens. he claimed he hadn't been aware that burisma meant the bidens. dr. hill said that's impossible. >> this is not credible to me that it was oblivious. he did not say bidens. he said burisma and he said 2016 and i took it to mean the elections as well as burisma. >> president trump's negative attitude towards ukraine was unique according to fiona hill. she said there were lots of officials from countries all around the world who have said offensive things about the president, but that did not impact his feelings toward those countries and it didn't affect his meetings with them or the aid that the u.s. gave them. fiona hill and others have said

that trump believed that ukraine tried to take me down so that conspiracy sthe conspiracy theory about the 2016 election was central to the president's attitude toward ukraine. >> thank you very much. to fiona hill's point now gordon sondland said of course, burisma meant theed bience. out front now. chris coons sits on the judiciary committee in the senate. white house officials telling cnn tonight that at this point they don't believe there's enough evidence to convince senate republicans to remove trump from office, that is what you and the senate will have to vote whether to do or not. have you talked to any of your republican senate colleagues today? what have they told you? >> i have a number of friends in the republican caucus in the senate and when i try to bring up the subject of the testimony of this week the -- striking developments in the house, all of them have either changed the subject or simply said they'd really rather not talk about it. it is a very difficult,

sensitive subject, and one where, frankly, it's been quite difficult to get anyone to concede that the president's defense stands in tatters after this week's testimony in the house. >> you know, obviously right, was there no quid pro quo and hearsay and both of those points have been shown to be false. >> correct. >> to your point about how your colleagues and i know these are people you know well and they're friends and people you respect. i want to play something chairman schiff said, he was comparing trump to nixon and he said what trump did was beyond anything nixon did and he went are said this, senator. >> the difference between then and now is not the difference between nixon and trump been it's the difference between that congress and this one. where are the people who are willing to go beyond their party to look to their duty? >> senator, do you think those people exist?

well, that's what i hope my republican colleagues will be reflecting on over this thanksgiving break is how in our nation's history back in 1974 it was republican senators like howard baker of tennessee who put country over party, and having heard the kind of evidence against president nixon that i think has now been presented against president trump, went to him and said you really should re-think whether you can survive a trial in the senate. i don't see any movement like that among my republican colleagues now. it's entirely possible they are having private conversations given the devastating testimony this week in the house, but there's nothing that i've heard that suggests that sort of a change in heart or spirit in the other caucus this week. >> obviously, there are some at the center of this who have not yet spoken. we've heard now from the president's mouth to mr. holmes' ear, gordon sondland's admitted,

we've heard it all, but we haven't yet heard from john bolton, the former security adviser who was at the center today. so what do you think should happen when it comes to secretary bolton, and to the acting chief of staff mulvaney. should the house make them tough or do you think it's time to draw up the articles of impeachment and send them to you all to have those interviews? >> i think they should make every effort possible to demand testimony from a number of the most senior figures in the trump administration who have been directly implicated. ambassador gordon sondland's testimony yesterday was striking, was very clear that this was not just one phone call from president trump to president zelensky. this was an organized, coordinated campaign to serve the domestic political benefits of president trump against his strongest domestic political opponent and former vice president biden and something that was as dr. fiona hill put

it. a domestic errand that put it to risk -- >> even if they don't succeed in the new year in the house? >> no. i think -- >> go ahead, sorry. >> i think the time has virtually run out, they should make one more serious effort and it's clear that the president and his senior advisers so far have blocked all testimony by those who were in the room other than gordon sondland, and frankly, they should give them one more chance and move on. >> so do you think senate democrats will be able to stop republicans when this comes to you and of course, the republicans being the majority in the senate to make it clear to everybody, and calling witnesses like huntser biden frm testifying in the senate trial. >> it's entirely possible that rules will be passed by a bare majority. i hope not. ultimately, during the clinton impeachment, republicans and democrats were able to come to

agreement about witnesses and where and how they testified and so forth. i do think it would be a complete farce to bring hunter biden in front of the senate. the theory under which that's been advanced has been disproven by every journalistic outlet that's investigated it and that's just another conspiracy theory of the sort that dr. fiona hill today was dismissing in her testimony. i hope it won't come to that, but it's entirely possible. >> senator coop, i appreciate your time. >> next, damaging testimony about the president's own personal attorney. >> every time rudy gets involved he goes and "fs" everything up. >> so why has aren't trump turned on giuliani yet like he has so many others? >> plus impeachment witnesses one after the other knocking down some of the main republican talki talking points that we've heard day after day. >> there was no quid pro quo. >> was there a quid pro quo?

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future that future circumstances that it would be embarrassing, and the folks outside the embassy or even folks within the embassy that don't have a need to know. >> it was gordon sondland that showed indiscretion that showed indiscretion. first thing. second thing -- >> excuse me, mr. holmes, let me clarify the question. >> i shared the information that i needed to share with the right people who needed to know it. >> ready to fight in their own very distinct ways. out front now former assistant fbi director and republican state senator and nevada, and tim naftali, president of the nixon library, gloria borger and laura coates. so the witnesses today were ready to fight, and as i said in completely different ways and their personalities could not have been more different, but they were not having any of it and they were ready to brawl. how did this play for republicans? >> it made it very difficult for

republicans because as you said both of the witnesses were ready and they were very impressive and they weren't going to put up with anything and especially miss hill was just as close to a perfect witness as i think you could see in that setting, and i think that did put republicans back in their heels and it didn't stop all of them from trying to take on these witnesses, but i think it fell flat and the witnesses really carried the day today and not just in terms of the way they conducted themselves, but the substance of their testimony was compelling and important. >> and both obviously very, very credible people -- their honesty and commitment read through. laura, in many ways fiona hill was an assassin. the kind of person that sneaks in stealthily in the night and then -- boom! it ends two weeks of public impeachment hearing and what do you think of iffiona hill and d holmes to end this? >> this is about the idea that this is all hearsay and no one's heard anything and no one's been

actually hear from the pejorative horse's mouth essentially and here you have two people who addressed the issue and dr. fiona hill addressing explicitly, you talked about hearsay and i heard it with my own ears and i talked to the players involved and this is how it was surmised from actual observation and actual hearing and other use of my senses. you have mr. holmes talking about the idea of what he actually heard on the phone and what the idea of the president's true motivations were and they were able to undermine any notion that it is unknown to anyone what the president was thinking, and they also both addressed the point that that was very obviously a flaw in the prior testimony of ambassador sondland and kurt volker which is this idea of oblivion, that either of them were totally oblivious to be able to connect the dots with burisma and bidens and what their intensiotions we and it's not plausible that they were oblivious. >> gloria, you have gordon

sondland saying i don't know them, and it's blatantly obvious, it's pretty obvious now and walking to walk a tough line, a pretty tough line to walk. sondland was quite explicit about rudy giuliani, right? who is at the core of all of this and his work in ukraine. here he is. >> at one point during a preliminary meeting of the inaugural delegation, someone wondered aloud why mr. giuliani was so active in the media with respect to ukraine? my recollection is ambassador sondland stated, quote, damn it, rudy. every time rudy gets involved he goes and "fs" everything up. >> every witness, it seems, gloria has pointed the finger at rudy giuliani and yet trump has not yet thrown him under the bus. why? >> yet. that's the key word there. i think at this point maybe trump needs a fall guy. rudy giuliani is the fall guy here. he's the guy who was meddling in everything. everybody who testified seemed

to make it very clear that rudy giuliani was doing this at the direction of the president of the united states. i think gordon sondland said that, what? 20 times yesterday at the direction of the president, so it's clear rudy giuliani wasn't freelancing, but maybe the president feels that he needs him right now. the republicans are clearly ready to throw him under the bus and there's no doubt about that, and it could still happen at a certain point, but for now, i think in the back of the president's mind is surely what happened when he threw michael cohen under the bus which is what michael cohen flipped on him, if you recall. >> michael cohen is serving a prison sentence. >> why hasn't the president yet as gloria said that being the operative three-letter word, is there something that rudy giuliani may know? >> well, one never knows and that whether there is an element of blackmail, but there's

something else here. the president would have to admit error. the president has so far said the transcript was perfect, the policy was perfect. there was never a question and you can't throw the person under the bus if it was perfect. >> the president is out of box. one of the things i found striking was that dr. hill and david holmes gave us a seminar in u.s. policy with ukraine, a powerful statement and every member of the republican caucus agreed with that policy that they were describing. so it's very hard to make the argument that this was a dispute over policy. every member of the republican side agreed it was a bipartisan commitment to helping the ukrainians fight the russians and yet the president's policy was completely different, and this is the disnance. this is the contradiction they have to work through. >> is that you, gloria? >> fiona hill described it

perfectly. she was dismissive of what giuliani and gordon sondland is doing. she called it a political errand. >> right. it was an errand and what she and everybody else in the economic team and they were actually trying to conduct, and she made the point very quickly that the russians ared bad guys here and that the ukrainians are the good guys. they're on our side and if you buy into these conspiracy theories you're buying into -- into russian double speak which is exactly what they want you to do. >> that's the other thing she essentially did, she said anybody buying into this i putting forth into what the russian security services want. >> in fiona hill language she was calling them unwitting assets of putin.

>> i will tell you from the perspective of someone who was formerly -- as part of the intelligence community and has been part of many briefings of member of congress including the republicans where these issues would come up and members of the ic would beat them back and explain why it was not true and it was a half-baked conspiracy theory is it was nice to hear someone actually resonated and say that and whether it resonated with the republicans, i don't know, but it was right on. >> there was devin nunes saying someone else could have interfered and he wasn't giving up. >> all of you stay with me please, because witness after witness has now pointed the finger directly at the -- well, the hearsay argument's gone and it's all now directly at president trump. >> at the express direction of the president of the united states, the president had so directed through the acting chief of staff. >> plus president trump and a major ally using the same playbook tonight. ♪oh there's no place like home for the holidays.♪

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tonight, house intelligence committee chairman adam schiff rapping up this history making days of testimony. >> in my view, there is nothing more dangerous that an unethical president who believes they are above the law, and i would just say to people watching here at home and around the world in the words of my great colleague, we are better than that. adjourned. >> schiff invoking the late democratic congressman elijah cummings and everyone is back with me.

so laura, what was the biggest revelation in the past three days? >> the biggest revelation was there was the quid pro quo. it is an interesting revelation. we knew that this was the expected fact pattern and to hear it through the televised hearing was the most important aspect of it because remember, you have to get the public support behind the discussions about the impeachment and what was extraordinarily riveting is it came from someone who still works in the administration, and gordon sondland and the ambassador to the european union who is at center of this controversy and here he is saying, hold on, for anyone who does not believe that everyone was in the loop, i'm here to tell you, everyone knew about it and he implicated everyone like pompeo, bolton, and vice president mike pence, as well and it left the question out there which was if all of these people had first-hand information and knew something about it why haven't we heard from them and is the argument that the gop members who have been decidedly against the

impeachment inquiry that it reveals the achilles heel that you can't have it both ways. you can't demand information and have one source of that information and refuse to provide that source. >> which, of course, since they've been balking on all of that testimony. the quid pro quo and another thing we heard loud and clear this week from witness after witness is that this quid pro quo came at the direction of president donald j. trump. here they are. >> at the express direction of the president of the united states. the president had so directed through the acting chief of staff. i heard the president had directed the office of management and budget to pull the funds. >> to say these witnesses hadn't heard it from the president themselves. they were getting it clear that this was from the president, but they didn't necessarily hear it from his mouth, well, was there this today. >> i could hear the president's voice through the earpiece of the phone. the president's voice was loud and recognizable.

i heard president trump asked so he's going to do the investigation? >> an impeachment is about the actions of the president. it is essential to be able to prove the president's responsibility for the misconduct. all of those witnesses in various ways created a pattern that is evidence of president's responsibility for suspending the security aid and for demanding investigations if he was even going to meet with president zelensky. that's at the heart of any impeachment inquiry. there is a week -- there is a real ambiguity in our wonderful constitution. we give the house the role of the impeacher, but no one says anything about what the executive is going to do if the house impeaches the executive and the chief executive. it's almost assumed that the chief executive will cooperate and give the house what it needs

to render judgment. >> obviously not. it's impractical and naive. this has been tested before and nixon tested it with his stonewall approach and there is no incentive for the chief executive, the president, to help impeach himself. what they are doing, what the white house has done is they've kept away as best they can from the house -- >> no state department documents and no mull vainy and no bolton and no pompeo, beyond a reasonable doubt, could prove that president trump is the reason yet hold was placed on the security. >> so you have greg here, the what in the quid pro quo and the who, the president of the and the why and they laid out the why. let me play that. >> president trump demanded a favor of president zelensky to conduct investigations that both of you acknowledge were for president trump's political interest, not the national

interest and in return for his promise of a much-desired white house meeting for president zelensky. colonel vindman is that an accurate summary of the excerpts that we just looked at? >> yes. >> miss williams? >> yes. >> ambassador sondland stated that the president only cares about big stuff. i noted there was big stuff going on in ukraine like a war with russia, and ambassador sondland replied that he meant big stuff that benefits the president like the biden investigation that mr. giuliani was pushing. >> who would benefit from an investigation from the bidens? >> i assume president trump would. >> there we have it! see? >> erin, i think it's clear that we all know what happened here, right? there was this effort at shaking down the ukrainians in order to get something of personal value, namely dirt, if you will, on a political rival. i respect the fact that if

republicans want to acknowledge that's what happened and yet decide in their minds and in their hearts that it doesn't warrant impeachment, people may disagree about that and that would be a respectable position to take and we haven't heard one republican even acknowledge the facts that were so clearly and plainly laid out in these hearings. this did happen. >> gloria, that is the thing. we know what happened and we know at whose direction it happened and we know why this person did it. those are all facts at this point. >> and we know -- remember, republicans at the beginning said we know it's all hearsay and we know it's not hearsay and it's not about the phone call anymore. we know that when you scratch the surface and when you dig a little bit as the committee did this week that that was about an effort to clearly subvert american foreign policy by a

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tonight, fictional narrative. president trump's top russia aide fiona hill, by pushg the line that ukraine interfered in the 2016 election against trump. >> based on questions and statements i've heard, some of you on this committee appear to believe that russia and its security services did not conduct campaign against our country and that perhaps somehow, for some reason, ukraine did. this is a fictional narrative that is being perpetrated and propagated by the russian security services themselves. >> of course, trump's own former homeland security adviser tom bossert said very publicly that he agrees that narrative is fiction and he said it on abc with george stephanopoulos and that hill along with others took down trump's defense points in the impeachment inquiry essentially one after the other. >> there was no quid pro quo. >> there was a quid pro quo? >> the answer is yes. >> the call summary is still the most important piece of evidence we have, and it shows no

pressure. >> you're acknowledging, i think, mr. holmes, are you not that ukraine very much felt pressured to undertake these investigations? >> it's all hearsay. you can't get a parking ticket conviction based on heart. >> i understand members believe it is hearsay and i am talking about things i heard with my own ears. >> do you think aid was held up at the time of the phone call? >> on the last point on jim yord jordan, laura cooper testified that hours after the president's call with zelensky in july where he brought up that investigation of burisma and biden, the ukrainian embassy said the military was aid was being withheld and there were two e-mails and whether it was a phone call or not and all of that out to ukraine. joe lockhart, white house press secretary during the clinton impeachment hearings and joe schultz, former white house counsel for president trump. so, joe, point after point. >> yeah. >> is what we heard there and

those are some of the main points that they used, right? first, was there no quid pro quo and then it was hearsay and each of those was systematically debunked by several witnesses this week. >> yeah. the two most important things that came out today which are the most important points that, you know, some of this is just spin, but the really important things are what holmes said that i heard the president say, i heard it out of his mouth that he was -- that the only thing he was interested in was the investigations. the second thing and it is the most important point is dr. hill saying that this was an operation, a political operation, a political errant that ran counter to u.s. policy and counter to our national security, and actually helped the russians. that is why this is an impeachable offense. >> what do republicans do thou? >> i disagree that it is impeachable, of course, and you had holmes testify that that was

the only thing he heard about the phone call and nothing else and there are questions there. what we know is there's been a lot of contradictory testimony among these witnesses. sondeland contradicted his own testimony yesterday. he said there was a quid pro quo and then he said the president didn't directly say there shouldn't be a quid pro quo. so that right there creates doubt, creates, you know, conjecture and creates all kinds of issues when you're trying to prove a case in a court of law. >> do you think you're a lawyer, you're a good lawyer, you were special counsel at a lawyer and could you get a jury to say there was quid pro quo? >> a lot of this testimony wouldn't be admissible? >> so you think you wouldn't be able to make this case in court? >> no. >> mick mulvaney, mike pompeo, mike pence and rudy giuliani would be on the stand. they wouldn't be stonewalling and we'd find out from people that were in the room with the president every day what they know. we'd see the documents. we'd see the phone records. these are being withheld by the

white house. so the court of law argument doesn't wash here. >> and my issue here is hearing all these people, all of whom are honest people who are telling the truth and gordon sondland does have his issues and you don't need gordon sondland to make this point, mick mull vaughny said the president of the united states said withhold the aid. >> nobody said it. >> why not let the people who are with the president every day unless you're trying to hide what they have to say. >> you have executive privilege that go beyond this presidency. presidents need to be able to communicate with their counselors and have the confidence that the rest of the world will not hear about those conversations they've had about policy decisions that they make inside the white house. it's longstading precedence and longstanding constitutional precedence and it's alive, well and real and it goes well beyond this president. >> you have nine people all coming out saying the president

of the united states did this and what they're saying he did under oath. >> the president of the united states didn't say anything. >> they are saying that he directed. >> but did they hear him? >> you have one person hearing the president of the united states himself. >> he only heard one thing during the phone call and that's one witness out of many and there's been no direct evidence here and there's been a lot of contradictory testimony. >> so you worked with the testimony, would people hold up $391 million in aid. >> there was $4 billion --? yes, given over a decade. >> and this president held up aid to lebanon. would you do that -- >> and none of those -- none of those things had to do with a personal, political project for the president? all of those thing his to do with u.s. foreign approximately s policy and if we were in a court of law, let me tell you where the prosecutor would close. he'd pick up that transcript of

the call and say the president admitted it. he said we want to -- if you want that, we want a favor though. that is the most direct evidence. >> that's not what was said in that transcript. >> he brought up the bidens. >> without a doubt. >> you know what i think? bringing up the biden issue is fair game, right? >> why is that fair game? >> because you have a government -- you have aid going to a government, you have a person from our country, there are tons of questions surrounding hunter biden's appointment to the board and whether he was qualified to be appointed to that board, and if a foreign national went on a board of one of our energy companies in this country, you bet -- >> you've answered my question which is that the facts that were presented this week if you were in congress would not be ones that you're going to accept as facts as a republican. you've answered that question. >> we can accept fact, but we can't come to conclusions. >> these are -- these are all

distractions designed to keep you away from the facts as we know them. we heard them -- >> oh, come on. >> let me make one -- it's like nixon -- and you're not seeing treason -- you're not seeing a bribe and you're not seeing evidence of any of those things. >> the argument that made the most was ukraine meddled. devin nunes ran an investigation when he ran the intel committee. he didn't find evidence and he didn't produce evidence of ukraine meddling. the senate did a bipartisan investigation led by senator burr, a republican and they didn't find evidence of a ukraine -- >> mueller -- >> it was 448 pages. >> meddling in the election issue and let's take that aside. the biden issue was certainly fair game. if a government official in this country.

so you want to take one thing, and the crowd strike and conspiracy. minds can differ on whether that's legitimate ore not. >> there are a number of people in congress. >> the intelligence community's mind is what counts on this. >> you can have any opinion you want about the ethics of biden being on this board. there was nothing, there's no evidence and every witness said the same thing. is there any evidence that he influenced the policy. >> was there an investigation done? >> that's how you find things done. you have investigations and there wasn't one done here. >> you're setting up a hypothetical investigation. >> it's not hypothetical. >> all right. we have to go. hunter biden not being qualified, true, but that's not the point. thank you all very much. next, could the impeachment

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tonight house democrats are moving closer to impeaching the president. sources are telling cnn that there could be a vote by christmas, but are voters on board? we went to the key swing state of pennsylvania to find out. vanessa yurkevich is "outfront." >> hey, good morning, everybody. i want to know what you think about the impeachment hearings. >> reporter: the morning rush to philadelphia with impeachment on the mind. >> it's a big show and i think we're just wasting taxpayers' money. >> reporter: no matter their political party, voters here in the suburbs are paying attention. from the airwaves -- >> it would be thrown out in any courtroom, put it that way. >> nothing there there? >> no. >> reporter: to the railways. >> i'm totally convinced that he's committed a crime. >> reporter: a narrow victory in pennsylvania helped deliver the white house to donald trump in

2016. democrats here now on offense, with strong voter turnout in local elections earlier this month, helping them score victories in three suburban philadelphia counties. >> now that we are a thoroughly blue county for the first time in 150 years, that maypo porten trouble for the president. >> reporter: they have been glued to the hearings for the past two weeks. >> for opening statement, we're not talking. >> that's not going to happen. you invited the world's worse. >> reporter: at her watch party in delaware county, four democrats and one independent. all believe the president has committed a crime. >> we're talking about acceptance of law and determining what our laws are now. >> right. >> so are we going to accept that this is practiced now or we not going to accept this as practice? >> i think we're ahead of the congressional hearings. we believed it before they walked in the room and produced the witnesses. >> reporter: across town, alexo and valerie bell. >> it's not supposed to be a few people picking the leaders of the country. >> right. >> reporter: alexo, a staunch

trump supporter. his wife valerie an independent, who is not a fan of the president. have you discussed the impeachment inquiry? >> i know where she stands, you know what i mean? she would like to see him get the boot, and i wouldn't. it's kind of a moot point to even talk about it. >> reporter: while respecting each other's opinions is key to their marriage, there is no love lost on their distinct views on impeachment. >> i think the democrats are grasping at straws wherever they can. >> i just think you have to hold the president to a higher standard. and it doesn't look good. it doesn't have good optics. >> reporter: the vast majority of voters we have spoken to here in pennsylvania say they don't believe the president will be impeached be, thaw the 2020 election will determine his fate. but erin, we only found one voter here who knows who they'll be voting for, and it is a republican who will be voting for trump. the others, however, very much still undecided.

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house democrats are not slowing down on impeachment. making president donald j. trump only the fourth president to face the prospect of being removed from office. stay with cnn for our historic coverage this evening of the hearings. "ac 360" with anderson begins right now. good evening. we begin tonight at the end, the end for now of house impeachment testimony in the intelligence committee. house judiciary takes it up after the thanksgiving break, and safe to say what we've heard already gives them plenty to work with, not to mention quite a few leads and witnesses to pursue. one of the witnesses today was himself a new lead, a late addition, david holmes, political affairs counselor at the u.s. embassy in kiev. but the star was fiona hill, former senior director for europe and russia of the national security council. her attorney joins us exclusively in just a moment. dr. hill had a front row view from inside the white house as portions of the country's

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