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their lives in prison that don't deserve it, and we've got to do something about it. >> the men who are now in their early 50s say they're looking forward to thanksgiving with their families. >> erin burnett "out front" starts right now. out front next, breaking news. president trump knew about the whistle-blower complaint when he released the military aid to ukraine. this was just released by "the new york times." plus security officer john bolton, if he's so concerned why won't he defend it? >> and a trump biographer and a senior adviser to mike bloomberg's 2020 campaign. he's going to join us. let's go out front. good evening. i'm erin burnett. "out front" tonight, the breaking news, president trump knew about the whistle-blower complaint when he released the military aid to ukraine. this is a new report just
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crossing from "the new york times" which is reporting at this hour that trump was briefed by white house lawyers about the whistle-blower complaint in late august and the lawyers at that time told him they were trying to figure out if they had to give the whistle-blower complaint to congress. they were trying to avoid doing that. of course, this is crucial. you're talking about late aug ah t august that the president of the united states finds out about the whistle-blower and he only released that military aid after congress announced that it was opening investigation into his handling of that ukrainian aid. maggie haberman of "the new york times," i don't think they've had time to get through all of it as it was just crossing and the timing was significant as to what you are reporting tonight. what more can you tell us? >> sure, erin. it's significant because this briefing by the white house counsel and john eisenberg who is the main lawyer for the national security council took place at the end of august
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roughly two weeks before the freeze on that aid was lifted. so we know that the president was aware that there had been this whistle-blower complaint filed against him in connection with his actions regarding ukraine both in terms of this phone call that he had with president zelensky of ukraine on july 25th and the fact that the aid was frozen and those are the key details in the whistle-blower complaint and he was aware of it at the time when he reversed himself. >> and he was -- aware of the whistle-blower complaint and aware that they were trying to avoid this ever ending up with congress which, of course, it did, and then -- maggie, we know the time line here is two days after congress, and the president's aware congress is opening an investigation into what happened. that's when he finally releases the aid. you also point out that this is very significant in terms of what the president was thinking at the time he told gordon sondland no quid pro quo.
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explain what you mean. >> sure. to your point about congress, this briefing took place at a moment when sipiloni and eisenberg were arguing they didn't think they could have the whistle-blower complaint ask they were covered by executive privilege and they were seeking an opinion from the justice department's legal office and the justice department said they didn't have to share it and they didn't, but to your point, congress ended up finding out anyway, but he found out about this complaint existing prior to a conversation that gordon sondland testified to congress that he had with the president about questions about this aid being withheld and the president said to sondland there's no quid pro quo. that's according to sondland's testimony. that's very specific language and that was language that was not part of the public discussion around this aid being withheld at that time when they had this conversation in the beginning of september. >> very crucial because as you
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point out, maggie, now knowing that he knew about the whistle-blower complaint, he knew the entire concept and the entire thing was a quid pro quo. the fact that he introduces it -- >> that's right. he knew somebody was saying that or knew that that was at least our understanding of it, based on what he was briefed on that that was part of the conversation. i should note here that the white house declined to comment on this briefing or on the timing of it. >> and what else, maggie, do you think could be significant here. what this means for what the president was thinking and his use of the word quid pro quo and the way he handled gordon sondland. all of that is very crucial. what else do you think could be the implications of now knowing of what the president knew when he knew it. i think anything we can pinpoint as to what the president's mindset was, erin, when he decided to free up this aid, i think, is important. i think, again, we still don't know exactly what pat sipiloni and what eisenberg told the
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president about this aid and we may never know because those are conversations that the white house are going to argue are protected about executive priviledge and we've seen it play out repeatedly in discussions that the president had with the previous white house counsel mcgahn, so i don't expect it to be different. it underscores that the president was aware of what was going on. we're not saying he knew the whistle-blower's name at the time. none of our reporting has indicated that he was told who it was, but he was just told that this complaint existed and the fact that he knew of that as he took actions related to people learning about this matter going forward is crucial. it's also, again, vital. we've known this, but it's worth underscoring the efforts the white house took to try to keep congress from finding out about this is going to be a key part of this inquiry as it goes forward. >> absolutely. certainly adding into the questions they had an obstruction. maggie, thank you very much. maggie, the breaking of this
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story. let's go to democratic congresswoman brenda lawrence who sits on the committee. you heard maggie going through some of the reporting there. does this change anything now that you know when the president became aware of the whistle-blower complaint that it was prior to that conversation with gordon sondland. it appears in which he said no quid pro quo. certainly it was prior to his decision to release the aid. >> well, it has been so magical the proceedings for impeachment and the hearing is that someone says it's like an onion, you keep peeling away layer after layer and this is solidifying that the president of the united states is not a truthful person that the president of the united states was manipulating his -- his office and manipulating aid to another country, and it was only until he felt that he was
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being exposed that he actually stepped up and actually released the funds. this is very incriminating and this is a time for us to understand that history must reflect that we held this president accountable. in terms of what this means for congress, maggie just alluded to obviously the point here, the context in which the president found out was white house lawyers were trying to prevent this whistle-blower report from ever getting in the hands of congress. that's what they were trying to do. do you think that in and of itself is the possibility of obstruction. >> that's obstruction. >> absolutely. it's obstruction and it's one of the articles of impeachment that will be on the table and the president has, you know, from denying his staff to speak and thank goodness that we have
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judges who are true interpreters of the law. the from is not a king. the president cannot have subjects and those who serve the people and so this is just -- it just keeps piling on and this is troubling because so often people will say that the president is not very smart. it shows that he was manipulating. he was strategic in his obstruction, and that he just blatantly lies and use that as a -- as a base for his deflections of what he does. >> now, you do talk about this as a moment of history, congresswoman and you do make some comments that are getting a lot of attention about this issue of impeachment and what to do here. here is part of what you said about president trump. let me just play it so viewers can hear it. >> we are so close to an election.
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i will tell you sitting here knowing how divided this country is, i don't see the value of taking him out of office, but i do see the value of putting down a marker saying his behavior is not acceptable. ? wow. >> i want it on the record that the house of representatives did their job. >> i want him censured and you don't see the value of taking him out of office, referring to president trump. what exactly do you mean by this, congresswoman? >> so i was asked about it is senate and what is the senate going to do after we vote for impeachment. i have been on the record since 2017 and i was one of the first to sign on to representative green's resolution for impeachment. i have not waivered from that, but the discussion was will the
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republicans in the senate go through and impeach the president. there seems to be no giving in that. >> right. but the thing that keeps me awake and troubles me and what i was talking about is that there is actually a movement to resolve the president of any wrongdoing. we cannot afford that to happen. >> you want the house to impeach and -- but in the senate instead of possibly absolving him, you'd rather they not vote on remove or not remove. >> yes. >> they vote to censor him in the senate. i mean, that's what you're saying? >> because privately -- yes. privately, the republicans are saying yes, it's not right. he's done something wrong, but i'm -- it's just not impeachable. we have to put a marker down so i'm going to do my job in the house and when it gets to the
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senate and this is a way for history to reflect that this president and any president from now on, this is unacceptable and we will not tolerate it and we will say as the checks and balances in our government that we did our job and that was my -- my call to the republicans in the senate. >> certainly, i think you made it clear here and i appreciate your time, congresswoman. thanks as always. >> thank you so much. >> out front next. breaking news. democrats are releasing two new impeachment transcripts we've never seen before and we're finding out tonight that before anyone in congress or the american public knew anything about all of this, somebody actually resigned because they thought what they were asking -- what they were being asked to do was wrong. plus the president's former national security adviser john bolton warning american security is under attack from within. so why is he defending it? he's not working for the president anymore and why won't
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breaking news. "the new york times" reporting that president trump knew about the whistle-blower complaint when he finally released the aid to ukraine. this also means from the time line of when he learned about the whistle-blower complaint which is late august, when he told his eu ambassador gordon sondland that there was no quid pro quo he knew there was a whistle-blower complaint of doing exactly that. nia malika henderson and ryan goodman, former special counsel to the defense department. ryan, how significant is this? obviously, we knew there was a congressional investigation that was under way two days before the aid was released and that's
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public. we know that and that was very damning, but this puts the the president knowing about the whistle-blower complaint in late august, weeks before. >> why he decides to restore the aid because he's being discovered. the whistle-blower complaint in its allegations included the fact that the aid had been suspended and then raised this question is that related so when president trump restores the aid you might think it's because he's been discovered. >> as maggie haberman was saying he found out about it from his lawyers in the context that they were trying to prevent congress from finding out about it. so he knows there's this complaint, but when he has this conversation with gordon sondland, in which he says no quid pro quo, he knows about the complaint, but he thinks he can keep the complaint quiet. >> that's right. it's interesting that "the new york times" report had the report from john eisenberg, mid-august, august 14th he's on the phone with the cia general counsel calling the justice department with basically what
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the counsel thought was a criminal referral with the allegations that were raised and that's middle august and that was the new york times before and they've updated that tonight. if that lawyer goes before the justice department in middle august and he did alert the president in late august to the whistle-blower complaint it raises another specter which is did the president know that as well, that a referral had been made to the justice department. that would be another reason why he would want to restore the aid until ambassador sondland, no quid pro quo. >> try to make the whole thing go away. nia, when you hear the name of that lawyer, obviously, this is also the lawyer that -- that vindman, right? had approached twice with concerns about the president's dealings with ukraine. so in other words, this lawyer had been aware since late june, right, at least that there were serious issues here and concerns? he knew as much as anyone. >> yeah. i think that's right.
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and what you get, right? when you put all of the testimony together and you put this piece of the puzzle in from "the new york times" is that people in real time knew about this and were complaining about it and concerned about it. bolton, of course, telling fiona hill to raise her concerns about some of this to eisenberg and eisenberg hearing complaints from both vindman as another witness whose name escapes me right now, but that's what you get, and if you're a democrat you know this will happen and there will be more information that comes out about what was going on from reporters and from people just digging into this. you don't necessarily have to wait on john bolton who likes to flirt on twitter on this, but you're going to get some more information if this thing keeps going on as we saw from maggie's reporting in "the new york times." the context here as nia perfectly pointed out. people knew about this in real time and vindman, fiona hill
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knew about, we're talking to the lawyers and john bolton told people to talk to the lawyers. we're finding out tonight and mark sandy, the top white house budget official, he was at the omb is the one who holds the aid and would release the aid. somebody asked him behind closed doors in the intelligence xhisht committee, quote, are you aware of anybody leaving omb in part by the security assistance, the answer, oh, yes, i am. i mean, so people were actually -- somebody at least -- at least one person resigned over this. >> it sounds like all of the alarm bells were going off and it wasn't people speaking to their other policy colleagues. they were speaking to the lawyers and they knew this was a serious legal problem and it's notable that the person who resigns in the omb is in the legal division and according to sandy is because they were concerned about the impoundment act which means you need to spend the money and the defense
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department said the white house broke through one of the deadlines to spend the money so it makes complete sense that at a certain people have their breaking points, as well. >> which to be clear, the reason there are laws is because congress authorized the money. it's not just because you don't spend it because you're the president and it's not the way it votes. >> it's illegal and a separation of powers. >> ni a it is incredible what we're learning and just the sheer number of people who knew and we were hit with this before where multiple people spoke to the whistle-blower, but this new reporting here from "the new york times" makes it even clearer that the counsel here, white house counsel for national security was well aware that this was a tsunami about to hit. >> that's right. and you see from the white house's notion of maybe they can get in front of the tsunami, right? maybe they can prevent this whistle-blower complaint from going to congress because it is
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so damning and then you have the president telling gordon sondland, listen, there's no quid pro quo. he's trying to himself get in front of this story and why would he offer this information, no quid pro quo and just automatically on this phone call, and now i think we know why because he was aware of the contents of this whistle-blower complaint and wasn't aware of some of the connections this whistle-blower was making. >> more and nor information coming out. drip, drip, drip, drip. >> thank you very much. a secretary of state playing games when it comes to testifying on the impeachment probe. >> when the timing is right all good things happen. >> a trump biographer now working for michael bloomberg. why does he think that that is the best bet to beat trump? hello. the united explorer card hooks me up.
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new tonight, the president's former national security adviser john bolton, one of the most anticipated impeachment witnesses had this to say today on twitter. it probably goes without saying that our country's commitment to our national security priorities is under attack from within. america's distracted. our enemies are not. we need to make u.s. national security a priority. it's a pretty stunning statement from the former national security adviser of the united states in part because it matches what the president's former top russia adviser fiona hill said under oath when she said the president had a quid pro quo on ukraine. here she is. >> when we are consumed bipartisan rancor we cannot combat these eternal forces as they seek to divide us against
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each other to degrade our institutions and the democrat see. >> hill said that on camera. bolton, though, is still hiding behind twitter and still tech incomely doing the president's bidding because he's refusing to testify in the impeachment investigation and to be clear on two big points here. one, bolton has a lot to say about what trump did and what trump knew and when he knew it. bolton was in the know and you don't need to take it from me. >> dr. hill said that ambassador bolton referred to this deal as this is a drug deal. >> ambassador bolton told me that i am not part of the -- this whatever drug deal that mull vainy and sondland are cooking up. >> i heard ambassador bolton express to taylor and tim morrison his frustration about mr. giuliani's influence with the president, making clear there was nothing he could do about it. >> did you tell ambassador bolton about this conversation, as well? >> i reached out to him, as well
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and requested his availability for a secure phone call? >> what was his response when you explained to him what ambassador sondland had said? >> tell the lawyers. >> so bolton knows a lot, okay? and he's out there tweeting about things and teasing the american public instead of actually talking and telling everything he knows. remember the other day when he tweeted, quote, stay tuned. if john bolton wants to do the right thing and protect american national security instead of getting on a twitter high horse, he should testify. that's the right answer for him. he doesn't work for trump anymore and that's the other big thing. he can stand up and stand up and speak and defy the president as nearly a dozen others have chosen to do and testify publicly. out front now, democratic senator senator hirono of hawaii and a member of the judiciary committee. i appreciate your time. thank you very much. what is your reaction of john bolton weighing in on twitter
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talking about national security at risk and under attack from within and tweeting stay tuned, but so far refusing to testify? >> this is serious business, and twitter doesn't do it. so, as you say, he should step forward as the other courageous testifiers have stepped forward to tell the american public and congress the truth of what the president did. >> do you believe he will eventually testify and will that happen in front of you in the senate? it doesn't look like it's going to happen in the house, obviously. >> one can only hope that these people will finally figure out that they should think about america and national security and not loyalty to a lying president who only cares about himself. >> it's not just john bolton, obviously, who is obeying the president. bolton doesn't even work for him anymore so he can really step up at any time? yes. ? he's not the only one, right? there's mick mulvaney and the secretary of state mike pompeo also not speaking out and here's
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mike pompeo today when he was asked about testifying. he played coy and sort of made a joke of it. here he is. >> when the time is right, all good things happen. >> i don't know if you could see, senator there, his little smile and as the audience there and as reporters were chuckling back at him. what do you think he means by that? >> who knows? and at this point he's very deeply involved and all of these, what i would call these shenanigans that the president put everybody up to, and so he's not coming clean and so what else is new with pompeo? >> so republicans -- >> you know, everybody -- i'm sorry. the people that come close to the president they enter what i call the moral dead zone and it takes a lot for them to break out of the dead zone, come clean and tell the truth. >> republicans are seizing on
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comments made by brenda lawrence. she has said censoring trump in the senate instead of removing him from office. you have majority republicans. here's how she explained her thinking on this show just a few moments ago, senator. >> privately, the republicans are saying, yes, it's not right. he's done something wrong, but it's just not impeachable. we have to put a marker down. so i'm going to do my job in the house and when it gets to the senate i was putting out there that this is a way for history to reflect that this president and any president from now on, this is unak soeptable. >> do you think a vote to censure the president is the way to go in the senate that republicans will onboard with that when they will not vote to remove him from office? >> i don't know what the republicans will get onboard
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with and that's why it's very important for this impeachment process in the house to continue and, you know, we shall see, but the expectation is that the judiciary committee will also engage in a process, and they will either come up with articles of impeachment or not, but i suspect they will come up with articles of impeachment and that's what we're supposed to do and that is our job under the constitution and it is not for us to say well, you know the senate's never going to convict and we shouldn't do it. i obviously have a different viewpoint as to what should happen and i think we should proceed with what is the appropriate thing to do and have your trial on removal or not. >> if the articles of impeachment come to us? >> some of your colleagues i've spoken to recently, and the democratic colleagues in the senate and they have been pretty down on their private versus public conversations with republican senators and here are
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two of your colleagues. >> what they say privately is very different from what they're doing publicly and saying publicly. >> i have a number of friends in the republican caucus in the senate and when i try to bring up the subject of the testimony of this week striking developments in the house, all of them have either changed the subject or simply said they'd really rather not talk about it. >> senator, does that reflect your conversations with republicans, your colleagues right now as well? >> it certainly reflects what the republicans are doing and, frankly, what does it matter what they're saying in private if it doesn't comfort with what they're saying in public, and so there is a huge chasm between what they really think and what they're saying in public, so this is why, until the republican senators pay attention to what the president did which was to shake down the president of another country for his own political purposes using
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taxpayer money as leverage and they don't want to face that, and so they just engage individual kind of what about this or what about that, and we should be focused on is on the president's actions and they're not able to do that. >> all right. senator hirono, i appreciate your time. >> thank you. aloha. >> and next, bernie sanders and elizabeth warren, they have set their sights on a new target. >> michael bloomberg plans to bypass human beings. >> all he has to do is take out his checkbook. >> bypass human beings. bloomberg's adviser responds. plus president trump claimed victory in syria. so out front traveled to the region and finds the situation on the ground tells a much different story. our clarissa ward will be out front. at bayer,
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tonight, former new york city mayor michael bloomberg making his pitch for the white house. he filed for the democratic primary in arizona and defended his decision to skip the early caucus and primary states. >> arizona, as you know, is a crucial battleground state, but you don't often see presidential candidates around here and the fact is president trump is about the only one spending any money here and in some of the other swing states around the country
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and that's a big problem for a party, and i am determined to change exactly that. >> out front now, tim o'brien is the strategic adviser for mike bloomberg's 2020 campaign. look, tim, mayor bloomberg has a point. arizona doesn't hold its primary until march 17th and it's the post super tuesday and it's after super tuesday and the four crucial states. you are doing something with no precedent of success in american history. why do you think it can work? >> a very small percentage of the delegates are at stake. mike's not only going to be in arizona. we will have a national campaign. we are campaigning now already like it's a general election and arizona is just an example of where he is, but we'll be in every swing state out of the gate and we'll have a presence in every one of the swing states and donald trump already has a campaign there. no other democrats have a robust campaign in those states to take it to trump's backyard.
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>> they're focused on the early states. >> because they need to. >> no, i understand your point and we can all agree the system has serious issues with it at this point and obviously what you're doing is at the least unexpected, right? >> you wrote a book about donald trump. >> i did. >> when he was in business. you know the guy. how much of your work is going to be focused on advising mayor bloomberg who obviously knows donald trump and the campaign about getting in trump's head. >> mike bloomberg and i are also both new yorkers. new yorkers, as you know, watched donald trump's act for a very long time. i think mike bloomberg recognizes that trump has been a long time con man and he knows that about himself and one of the things that he puts out into the world when he's a very successful businessman and that he's unbelievably wealthy when in many ways he's not and that he delivers success after success after success and lo and behold the person who has actually done all of those things is michael bloomberg.
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this idea that he's a billionaire, that's the first thing that keeps coming out in discussions about him, but mike bloomberg is also a wildly successful three-term mayor of new york. he's one of the most generous fill onang roppists in u.s. history and before that he was a parking lot attendant that put himself through college. all of those things make mike bloomberg someone who is competent like someone else is not. >> that billionaire point actually is coming from democrats that now mike bloomberg is running. they're the ones who are slamming him and using billionaire like it's a four-letter swear word. here's elizabeth warren and bernie sanders. >> michael bloomberg plans to bypass human beings. he thinks that he can be the democratic nominee for president by having a lot of money. not by actually getting out and meeting people. >> he doesn't have to go to
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nevada. he doesn't have to go to south carolina. all he has to do is take out his checkbook and write hundreds of millions of dollars in ads all over this country. >> okay. what he said was -- was pretty damning. what she said was pretty personally nasty. michael bloomberg plans to bypass human beings. >> neither one of those things happens to be true. if mike bloomberg was interested in bypassing human beings he wouldn't have spent $10 billion of his own dollars by spending the health initiatives and trying to break the nra and the last thing michael bloomberg has ever done in all of his years of being a public servant is bypass people and senator warren and sanders knows that. he's a successful and strategic politician who will bring this battle to donald trump's doorstep. >> stay tuned. thank you very much. >> next, president trump has
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tonight, president trump has heralded his decision to pull american troops out of northern syria, but the kurds who call that region home see it very differently. our clarissa ward is on the ground in syria in a story you will see only here. >> reporter: class should be in session now, but here in hasaka the school has become a home for displaced people. we met hassan, the kurdish father of five tells us he was forced to flee his home with his children when the turkish military operation began. this is what remains of his
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house. ibrahim says it is one of his neighborhood that was deliberately ransacked by turkish-backed forces. >> translator: they took everything, and after they took all our belongings they set it on fire and burned it all. just days before the offensive began, ibrahim's children had posed smiling with u.s. troops patrolling the area. he says america's presence gave him a false sense of security and then suddenly they were gone. >> translator: since america betrayed us every time i look at these photos of my children with the americans i want to erase them. >> do you feel that you trust the americans still? >> translator: definitely not. now we hear and we see on television america saying that they're only here for the oil. why did trump do this? you've betrayed all the people.
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>> it's a sentiment we found shared by many here. nearly 200,000 people have been displaced by turkey's offensive. hundreds of their homes have been cnn. ibrah now trying to move them out of the school so that class can start again. and into hayesly built camps lake this one. conditions are bleak. and resources are scarce. because of the security situation, international aid agencies have had to pull out. leaving the kurds with no one to rely on but themselves. so she is saying it's really difficult here because it's very cold, especially at night. they don't have enough food. they don't have electricity and the water is not good. camp organizers say there are 3,000 people living here now, with more arriving every day.
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almost everyone in this camp is from the town of rasalain, used to be about 75% kurdish. now we're told there are just a handful of kurds left. and the people here believe the ultimate goal of the turkish offensive is to essentially push the kurds out of the area completely and change the ethnic makeup of it forever. turkey has done little to alleviate their fears, as the kurds have poured out of the arabsed have been bussed in. syrian refugees who turkey claims are originally from the areas. after more than 8 years of civil war, this part of syria is full of stories of people forcibly displaced. in the christian village here we find more flams from nasarain shelt he agrees in the ruins of
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a destroyed church. will you try to go home, i ask the women. there is gnome no home to go to, they reply. isis cleansed this area of christians when it was in control. they have yet to return. now the village provides refuge for another people, forced from their homes with no sense of a possible return. >> and collars joins me now in northern syria. clarissa from what you learned do the kurds want american troops to come back? >> reporter: injury, erin, the kurds recognize they need u.s. troops on the ground for some measure of protection. but when it comes to the announcement the u.s. is doing patrols again, doing the anti-isis operations again with kurdish forces, there is also a sense that it's a little bit a day late and a dollar short.
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and more broadly, as i think you heard from the story from the man ibrahim who we talked to, there is a sense they don't feel really they can rely on the u.s. in the long-term, erin. >> clarissa, obviously you are in northern syria and dealing with all the risks that entails. what is the situation security like on the ground where you are? >> i think that's part of the irony of this situation, erin, is that the stated goal of turkey's military offensive was to create this so-called buffer own or a safe-zone, a 20-mile deep area along the border. but when you're here it doesn't feel like this is a safe zone. there are regular infractions of the cease fire but also regular car bombings. this afternoon in a car bombs in the town where most of the people we interviewed for our story came from, at least 17 people killed in the attack, erin. >> clarissa, thank you very
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it, neither could bernie. jeanne moos. cnn, new york. and thank you for joining us. anderson starts now. what did the president know about the ukraine whistle-blower complaint and when did he know it? john berman here in for anderson. tonight new reporting that says he knew as much as a week before he finally released the frozen military aid to ukraine and weeks before he said this to his ukraine fixer gordon sondland about what he wanted from kyiv. >> i say to the ambassador in response, i want nothing. i want nothing. i want no quid pro quo. tell zelensky -- president zelensky to do the right thing. so here it my answer. i want nothing. i want nothing. i want
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