this is gps. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. today on the show the impeachment inquiry. >> i want no quid pro quo. >> if trump is impeached, he will only be the third president in history to meet that fate. after andrew johnson and bill clinton. >> this is then a historic moment. how do historians look at it? we'll talk about it. donald trump claims we're winning the trade war with

china. >> thanks to my tariffs, we're taking in billions and billions of dollars from a country that never gave us tencents, china. >> but we're losing the more important battle, the education race against asia in general. what can we learn from the east about education? i'll bring you the answers. and why did this ship end up crashing into rocks in broad daylight? why was this oscar announcement so screwed up? the undercover economist has been looking at things can go very wrong very quickly. and he'll tell us how we can avoid catastrophe. >> first, here's my take. thanksgiving is my favorite holiday. it's a secular celebration of america and as an immigrant, i feel i have much to be grateful, plus i'm an optimist who tends to see the story of this country

of one of making progress over the long run. lately it's been tough to maintain that sunny outlook. america's greatest asset, the constitutional republic and democratic character seem to be in danger of breakdown. listen to the language of the president. >> our radical democratic opponents are driven by hatred and rage and prejudice. they want to destroy you, and they want to destroy our country as we know it. >> words like treason and coupe are casually tossed around in normal political discourse. some thought there might be evidence and facts that cut through the spin and fantasies. the opposite has happened. can america survive through such poisonous times? in the past it has. it has survived the battles between slave owners and abolitionist, vietnam and water

gate? someone says yes in an essay in the atlantic titled "how america ends". they argue the united states is undergoing a transition perhaps no rich and stable democracy has ever experienced. its dominant group is on its way to becoming a political minority, and its minority groups are asserting their co-equal rights and interests. he acknowledged that they there have been smaller versions of this transition before, but they often stretch america to the breaking point. it took a civil war to end slavery and almost 100 years of struggle to end jim crow. there was a chinese exclusion act and 120,000 japanese americans before opening the gates immigrants from all over the world. one more worrying trend that threatens the constitutional character, the ever expanding

power of the presidency. whatever you think of the charges against donald trump on russia or ukraine, his position of resolute noncooperation with congress in the impeachment inquiry should trouble you deeply. if congress cannot exercise its core constitutional oversight capacity, the presidency will have become an elected dictatorship. we've been going down this road for a while. it was written about the imperial presidency in 1973. many believed matters were under control. in fact, as he noted in a 2004 reissue of his book, in recent years the presidency has become stronger than ever. the furor after 9/11 proved to be the gateway for an out of control executive branch. the president gained the ability to snoop on americans, use military force at whim, torture prisoners and detain people.

the president of the united states can now order the execution of american citizens who are deemed by him to be terrorists without due process. attorney general bill bar believes despite all this history, the great problem in america is the presidency is too weak. he has enabled the policy of stone walling and silence in which top administration officials behave almost as if congress does not exist. people often ask what the founders would think of america today. it seems to me the greatest shock to them would be the incredible growth of presidential power. profound demographic change. fierce political backlash. and a presidency that refuses to the checked. my optimism is wearing thin this thanksgiving. for more, go to cnn.com/fareed and read my washington post column this week. let's get started.

>> extraordinary is an overused word in the modern vernacular, but i don't think it's hyperbole to say we're living in extraordinary times in the united states. i often wonder who you historians 20 or 30 or 50 years from now will view this moment. what is noble is how historians are looking at it. as it happens joining me are doris kerns goodwin, her latest bad is "leadership in turbulent times". she has a master class available. rick is a historian of the american conservative movement and in particular a chronicler of richard nixon. and one of his great passions is american hifrt, and he's just

published a book called "the american story:conversations with master historians". before we begin, david, i want you to explain what your book is and how it's really came out of an act of educating american congressmen about the country's history. >> i have a concern that people don't know as much about our history as they should. recently in a survey three-quarters couldn't name the three branches of government. we don't teach civics or history as much as we used to. congress members know more than the average citizen, but they should know more than they do. i started a series six years ago at the library of congress to interview historians. i've done about 50 of them. i've put 18 in a book. dispilled the interviews them a little bit, and it's designed to give people a look at american history through the eyes of the

greatest historians talking about john adams, fdr, and so forth. >> rick, let's get to the substance. you wrote this great book about the end of the nixon presidency, invisible bridge. you point out, you know, when we think about the impeachment hearings, there was a lot more going on with nixon than just the impeachment hearings. describe the kind of breadth of the investigation. >> well, by the time nixon resigned, what the public referred to when they said water gate was this sins that went back to the beginning of his presidency. it was 1969 when he did his first phone tappings of his own staff because he was terrified about leaks. and in 1970 one of the things the investigation in 1973 found out was that he approved a memo recommending break-ins of his opponents. he unapproved it, but obviously there were break ins of his opponents. water gate, the burglarly followed by payoffs by secret

funds. even as they were investigating, they would turn over rocks and turn over rocks and each would reveal another thing. nixon using public funds for his private residences. >> all this was discovered through not just one impeachment inquiry. right? >> it was, of course, the media, a but it was also the senate voted in 1973 with only two votes in opposition to have a special committee that would inve gait nixon and have public televised hearings. and they were galvanizing. one of the reasons only two people voted against it, they were approved at a one when no one could have managed the white house was involved. >> you lived through that. what is your sense when you look at that impeachment and this one? >> i think the main difference is when the impeachment hearings started, only 19% of the country thought he should be impeached.

and then you watch that process unfold, and they educated public sentiment. both the events and the hearings and the discoveries by the end 57% thought he should be impeached. and then that great moment that you know so well about, you both do, when finally the day before he resigns, barry gold water and a couple other republicans come to tell him the situation. he's wondering can i get 34? maybe i'll get 20, and gold water says there's only four, and i'm not one of them. it's an incredible moment. >> it wasn't this small thing. now they're going after this one bad thing he did. not this is how trump does bad things. >> the key at that time, i think, was that the republicans decide in the hughes judiciary committee to vote in favor of house impeachment articles. now it's split by party lines. nixon was unable to hold the republican party in the house and unable to do so in the senate. today it appears the president is able to hold his republican

party. >> and what shows the big challenge i think is that they have to educate public sentiment about what is an abuse of power? what does it mean to violate the rule of law? what is bribery? what is an impeachable offense? why are we impeaching him now versus waiting for the election? lincoln said with public sentiment, anything is possible, without it, nothing is. that country was educated under nixon. it came out fine in the end. ford said our national nightmare is over and there was a consensus in the country. >> why is that happening? presumably the republicans are going to because they recognize trump has the entire party with that, if they break with trump, they would lose their primaries. they would lose election. so is it that the country is so much more polarized that there's no prospect of -- >> i think the polarize is a poor metaphor. you hear it all the time. the democratic party loves bipartisanship. we nominate a guy, i'm going to

say we. ip i may be too partisan who says there's no red america or blue america or a guy who says this is not about ideology. but in the four books i've written, i'm writing about the surrender of a party to almost authoritarianism turn by turn. i can tell that story if you're interested. the fact is we're at a point now which basically the things that would get a republican -- there was something called a john birch society. >> i'm afraid we're old enough to remember that. >> in the early 60s you had to disavow the john burke seociety to be taken seriously. now people are saying things like that. the idea that ukraine sabotaged the election in the leadership. >> the congress is the pretty good barometer of the american people. if the american people were dead

set against president trump, the congress would reflect that. the republican party is supporting him. if it changes, it will be different, but right now i think president trump has a much greater hold on the party than nixon did. in a comparable period of time. >> the media is so different. you're hearing two different narratives. the hearings last week, it was one narrative of professional people who had come forward to tell the truth on msnbc and risked their reputations and created fact-based evidence. and then you listen to the other channels, maybe fox, and you hear a different narrative. it's difficult to bring a consensus with the split. >> the congress isn't a reflection. 10% of the congress represents 75% of the congress can represent 10% of the public. >> stay with me. when we come back, i'll ask the panel what history tells us about the other side of the

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imagination of the country, carter, clinton, obama, they win. >> that's correct. >> when they nominate the kind of stalwart standard bearer of the party, biden, they don't do so well. respond to that pattern. >> well, is good to know. if you look at history, it tells you what likely will happen in the future. it looks as if a fresh face is more likely to win a general election, but the party is very i'd say pleased with some of the people who have been around for a while. biden is the front runner right now. it's hard to know. when people vote, they don't look at history patterns as much as what they feel today. i can't say it's easy to pick the nominee. there are many candidates there. right now four years ago you wouldn't have predicted probably that president trump would become president. it's too early to say. if you go back the last ten presidential elections, a year in advance, i don't think you

would have predicted the person who won. you wouldn't have predicted obama a year in advance. trump a year in advance. they were trailing and barack obama when he got the nomination he was trailing behind hillary clinton way behind the iowa caucus. he won the iowa caucus and the nomination. a year in advance is too early to say. >> when you look at the primaries, people say so many people, bloomberg coming in, is this more chaotic? what does it look like? >> the terrible thing i have to remind, when i look at the craziness of the primaries, i wish we could go back to the old convention center. the convention chooses somebody and in labor day it begins and over in november and we'd have lives between the elections. roosevelt wanted the primary system to beat taft in 1912. "the new york times" printed an editorial because the campaign

between teddy and taft was so awful "the new york times" said if this is the first presidential primary as an experiment, we hope this is the last. this is a mob. there is a problem with the way the primary system is set up. we're not going to back. it's democratic to have more people vote. how are we judging the candidates? how they do in a debate? who zings who? that's nuts. they don't do that as a president. how much money have they raised? we should be looking at what kind of leaders they've been in the past. they've all come from somewhere, congressmen, mayors. we don't need a magazine article. we should be talking constantly, what kind of team do they have? do they have humility, empathy, resilience? are they accessible? what's their ambition like? we should know these things and ask them these things in the debate. have you failed and how have you done that? one question was asked, but i'd

love to see leadership things as an index for judging them. >> rick, let me ask you about the things of how to win for a democrat. there are two theories. one is you need to bring out the base. all the people who voted for obama but not hillary. the other is you need to get to all the persuadables in the middle in the states. it feels like those are two somewhat -- obviously ideally you do both. elizabeth warren brings out the base. biden reaches people in the middle. what does history tell you is the way to go? >> i think the answer is political science, actually. it's very clear that there are very few people who are persuadable. we have people called independents, but when we say how do they vote? they tend to vote for one party and call themselves independent because it sounds more independent. >> sir? >> present company excluded or maybe they say they're not democrats because they're to the left of the democrats or not

republicans because they're a libertaria libertarians. >> it's not a perfect process, but it's a process that's the envy of the world. we have a lot of votes. a lot of primaries and caucuses and i think a lot of people around the world would like to vote and vote many different times. i don't think it's a perfect system. all of us could invent a better system, but for now it's as good a system as we can get. >> as a billionaire, what do you think of elizabeth warren's desire to tax the hell out of you? >> i don't make the laws. whatever the laws, i'm going to comply with. i pay a lot of taxes and i'm happy to do so as an american who came from modest circumstances. my parents didn't graduate from high school or college. i'm happy to pay the taxes the law requires me to pay. if the ways and means committee and finance committee goes along with us and pass a bill, i'll come ply. i don't know there's a lot of support, but if the law is the law, i'll comply with it, of course. >> all right.

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now for our what in the world segment. little has terrified the titans of wall street than the prospect of an elizabeth warren path presidency. they say she vel if is the rich and worry she would alter the real market. warren is not really a socialist. not in the sense the word is usually used.

but there is a politician facing national elections who is a self-described socialist. i'm not talking about bernie sanders. this one is across the pond. journey corbyn, whose labor party released a manifesto that marks the party's biggest shift to the left in a generation. a labor government would drive taxes up on corporations and the rich to pay for a significant increase in day today public spending. public investment is a proportion of the economy would rise from 2 .6% to 4.5% on par with sweden's. perhaps more radical of all, corbyn wants to go on a nationalization drive. he would reverse decades of privatization began by margaret thatcher and ring the energy supplies and royal mail under direct ownership and control. the record of government run industries has been bad in most countries including britain where it was tried for decades after 1945.

the corbyn wants to bring part of the british telecom giant bt under public ownership so his government could roll out free bro broadband for every citizenship. keep in mind these are the kinds of promises that often play well with many voters. however, labor is polling behind johnson's conservative party. still, british industry leaders are panicking. one telecom executive told the ft the internet plan announced two weeks ago was lunacy, unquote. the paper report said others have started freezing investment and broadband networks until after the election. they have a reason to be concerned. the ft reports that companies would likely be compensated for their assets at far below market rates. there's more. labor is planning a national investment bank, a four-day workweek, and taking action to an ending the gender pay gap by 2030. if fully implemented, labor

plans could be described as democratic socialism. last month boris johnson wrote in the telegraph that corbyn's labor party was going after the wealthy the way stalin persecuted the kulaks. katie martin wrote something in congress seemed to be happening. markets appeared to be warming to the idea of a labor government. there's something corbyn has to offer business. he has ruled out a no deal brexit and said he would offer voters a second referendum. think of the consequences of boris johnson's hard brexit. according to the economists estimates suggest it would shrink british incomes by 6 %. a no deal brexit is an even bigger catastrophe with a higher economic toll and the added chance of food and medicine shortages. if one of these two leading parties ends up forming the next

government, a fair assumption, then the choice appears to be between a government that would lunch britain to the hard left ore one that delivers a hard brexit. here's hoping that american voters will have a better choice in 2020. next on gps, speaking of 2020, democratic presidential candidates continue to lay out their plans for fixing american education, but my next guest says we should actually look across the pacific for solutions. we have what the u.s. can learn from asian education when we come back. bayer, we're more thn a healthcare company. we help farmers like john by developing digital tools, so he can use less water to grow crops. at bayer, this is why we science. my dbut now, i take used tometamucil every day.sh it traps and removes the waste that weighs me down, so i feel lighter.

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educators around the world have been waiting with baited breath for three years. and they will be able to exhale on tuesday. that's when the latest round of scores come out. those are the global tests of 15-year-olds conducted by the oecd. they tell countries where their kids rank against others. asian nations have consistently outranked the united states in secondary education. math, science, and reading. so what is the special sauce? what can we learn from nations that consistently excel in education? well, tara is an american but when work brought her family to tokyo and shanghai, she put the kids in local public schools there. now they're back in new york and tara has written a terrific book about what she learned from

watching her kids learn. the book is called world class. one mother's journey halfway around the globe in search of the best education for her children. pleasure to have you on. >> thank you so much, fareed. >> why is it these schools and these are public schools in hong kong and shanghai. why are they teaching so well? >> the level of learning expectation is so high. through overcoming the challenges, you gain that resiliency and the motivation to continue to learn and push yourself. so that's a very big difference. >> you also talk about really important thing again, these are public schools and you came to the states and you were struck by the wide disparities in funding. >> absolutely. >> the best suburban schools might do well, but the places where the poorest kids are which need more attention get less funding because funding through

schools is through property taxes. and you don't see that in japan. all teachers were paid the same and had the same resources. >> they really do everything they can to fight any kind of inequity. there are examples where we talk about in the united states, we want the best teachers, the most experienced teachers to go to the schools that may be weaker ore underperforming but in effect, it's usually the opposite where well, i have tenure. i'm going to teach fifth grade in this school the next ten or 20 years. where i can say one example is in japan when we were in tokyo, for example, teachers are moved around within the district on every two to three years. you could go back to school and a teacher was moved to another teacher. this is a good school or the bad school. the teachers are con stlant moving around. and there are financial transfers to make sure the inequity doesn't exist. in the united states on average

only 10% of a school's budget comes from the federal budget. it's up to districts and states to stem the inequity. another thing they do really well in shanghai is they have sister programs so the higher performing schools take on a lesser performing school and take over the management to elevate it. >> you also talk about the respect the teachers had in the societies. now, that's something the government i suppose can't really do. teachers could be paid more, which i think is one of the tragedies in america. we think we pay teachers well. we don't. we pay them badly. what could one do about that? there's a vast difference, i think. >> the reverence for teachers is really something that really smacks you kind of in the case when you're in shanghai and japan. and on average, again, in japan, for example, there are 200,000 applicants for 38,000 spots to become teachers.

and it's as difficult to pass the bar if not more difficult in japan to become a teacher. the credentialing and licensing is really difficult. and what you also see is the teachers will do anything to help the next generation of students. so i tell many stories in the book where it will be 7:00 p.m. at night, and whenever the house phone rang, we knew it was a teacher who was teaching from -- who was -- i should say calling from the teacher collaboration room that all the teachers went to, because so much of their time isn't spent necessarily in the classroom but it's working together collaborating through professional development and lesson planning. and in the united states teachers spend 27 hours a week on average in the classroom. whereas the average for oecd nations is 19 hours. so that's something that we have to address as well. >> so they're teaching too much and they're not spending enough time getting professionally enriched and developed?

>> yes. and the other thing that happens both in shanghai and japan is you have to be redekrcredential every five to ten years. it's like becoming a daughter or lawyer where you can't just pass an exam once. you have to keep up your professional development. >> tara, pleasure to have you on. >> thank you. next on gps, bad stuff happens to good people. it's just a fact of life. but how can we do our best to avoid the pitfalls? tim horford has done the digging and he has the answers. back in a moment.

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i'm hoping our viewers that the united states don't have any cautionary tales to share after thanksgiving dinner. no fights with crazy uncles or turkeys burned to a crisp. no busted belt buckles from eating too much food, but life is filled with cautionary tales. events that were expected to go one way and then swiftly go awry. why does this happen? how do nuclear power plant accidents happen amid so many safeguards and how did this oil tanker end up in broad daylight on rocks it officers knew for there? my next guest tells these stories and more in a podcast. tim is known as the undercover

economist. he's an author, a. >> caller: um nis for the ft, and his new podcast is called simply enough, cautionary tales. welcome. >> thank you. >> i'm fascinated by the oil tanker one. what you describe is -- why don't you describe what happens? >> it was 1967. the oil tanker was one of the largest ships in the world. a great ship. and its captain took her between the silly aisles and the coast of corn wall off the south tip of great britain. it's narrow for an oil tanker and as the captain took the ship along the course, little by little small pieces of information came to light that should have made him think hang on, we need to go a safer route. there was a navigation error. they realized the tanker wasn't quite where they thought, but rather than stop and go around, he kept thinking i can make it.

and then there was one small final error, and there was no margin left and the ship went on to the rocks. it was an ecological disaster and the largest insurance claim in history up to that point. >> and the lesson you draw is interesting. once you set a course, often what people do is little bits of information that disk and firm your initial strategy plan never derail it. you don't let it get into your head that way. >> yes. accident experts call this plan continuation bias. you see it with airline pilots and in the operating theater. you see it -- i see it in my own life. i'm trying to make some complicated set of pickups and all the children from their different clubs, and information comes in that should make me think hang on, this is impossible. i need to call in help and change the plan. and i don't. and you see it in politics as well. the brexit -- >> brexit seems the most.

>> as a brit, brexit seems to be behind everything at the moment. but we had a previous prime minister, theresa may had a plan to deliver brexit. and it just became clearer and clearer and clearer though that plan wasn't going to work and yet, she found it completely unable to -- she found herself unable to change what she was doing like the oil tanker. >> i think of the iraq war that way. the plan was set in motion and all kinds of information comes in. inspectors don't find weapons of mass destruction. the turkeys say you can't go through our country. what was planned as a two fronted vision, there's one front, but the plan continues. >> some of the things are catastrophic. it's a very simple piece of human nature. if the new information is dripping in slowly, it's hard to have the prebs of mind, especially when you're under pressure to say hang on, maybe we need to he think this from

scratch. >> you have another episode which is about galileo's rule. explain that. >> the great astronomer in his final book tells a story about weirdly enough, storying columns, these big marble columns, how do you store them in the correct way. he tells a story about how a storage mechanism that was supposed to keep the columns safe would break them. they would snap in storage, and the point here is often when we introduce safety systems, we're also introducing complexity and a new way for things to fail. and my favorite example, not a tragic one, just an amusing one is you remember when they gave the oscar to the wrong movie, to "la la land" rather than "moonlight". how did that happen? basically because as a safety measure, they had a set of duplicate envelopes. there were two copies of every

envelope with every card. >> with every possible movie and every movie nominated? >> there were two for best actress and best picture. they were the same, but it was if we lose one, if we lose the best actress nomination, which, by the way, says emma stone, "la la land," which caused the problem. if we lose the card with the best actress prize on, we have another card, another envelope. but that meant that when emma stone won best actress for her role in "la la land," somebody had to get rid of the duplicate envelope, and they didn't, and that duplicate envelope ended up in the hands of warren beatty and caused the problem. if you never had the safety problem, you never have the -- problem. >> the oscars, now they have three sets of envelopes. i wonder how that's going to work out. >> is there a larger overall point to the podcast or lesson?

>> well, stories of disaster, stories of mistakes are interesting. they're memorable. i like these stories. but the -- there's always a lesson to learn from mistakes. i would rather learn lessons from other people's mistakes than learn lessons from my own mistakes. that's what i'm trying to do. >> that is the goal. watch -- listen to the podcast so you can learn from other people's mistakes. >> absolutely. >> pleasure to have you on. >> thank you. >> we'll be back. celebrating a successful business trip together is easy, if you're staying at holiday inn. nyquil severe gives you powerful relief for your worst cold and flu symptoms, on sunday night and every night. nyquil severe. the nightime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy head, best sleep with a cold, medicine.

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