welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. tragedy this morning at a major military base in florida. a gunman kills at least three people and injures many more. the economy added 6,322 jobs last month. wall street sees reasons to cheer and so does the president amid a presidential campaign. the house decides what to

put in the articles of impeachment as the deadline loo looms. nancy pelosi recalls another thing from other impeachment. >> people say, this doesn't rise to the level of impeachment. they wanted to impeach bill clinton for doing something stupid. i loved him. i think he was a good president. >> a pivotal week ahead in the trump impeachment process. today by 5:00 p.m., the white house must decide if its lawyers will take part in house impeachment proceedings. the next hearing is set for monday. plus key lawmakers and key staff staying in town over the weekend to draft the articles of impeachment over the president. what should be in them is still the subject of internal democratic debate. there are new questions today about whether democrats got all the facts right in that intelligence committee report that is the backbone of their impeachment case. not one congressional republican

is on record supporting impeachment. last night the house speaker nancy pelosi insisting democrats are acting prayerfully, is her word, against the lawbreaking president and that a backbone of support is not the reason to end the process. >> republicans have failed to meet the standard of their oath of office, to defend and protect the constitution of the united states. >> with me to share their reporting and insights today, margaret talib with "axios," cnn, abby phillip. the white house has heaped scorn day after day on the impeachment process. is there any chance we'll get support or is the answer no? >> it's been geared toward the senate, feeling up to now if they participate in the house, they are legitimizing and

acknowledging the process. strategically they thought it makes much more sense to diminish the validity of this process, to try to engage in the chamber where their party controls the majority. >> i would add the white house's strategy has largely been successful up to this point. they have resisted and withheld information that has been key to the investigation, and the result has been that democrats have a somewhat incomplete picture about all of the aspects of what went on. they believe they have enough to go forward with a vote, but certainly not all of it. and over in the senate, even though there was so much skepticism among some republicans, like mitt romney, for example, about what the president was up to, you still have not heard those same members coming guaforward and saying, we've seen enough, this is bad, this is impeachable. i think that's in part because some key witnesses have been held back from testifying because of the white house's stonewalling and important documents, important paperwork,

call logs, all of these have been withheld, and to change the strategy now, i think, for the white house, they look at that and they say what point would there be in doing that and engaging in this process? >> i think the white house has actually made a very valid point here. they said, how are we supposed to participate when we don't know what we're preparing for, which is different for pat cipollone whose letter in the previous month was more of a trump tweet than a serious legal argument. i think they're taking it more seriously. they're bringing up valid points. they don't know what the structure is. they know as much as we do right now. >> to that point, the president is a very effective communicator, using twitter and other platforms to get his side out. the house speaker nancy pelosi has decided, because she is the leader of the house democrats and these are her decisions, that she is now a front person for this as it goes forward. to your point about what will the article say, what specifically will you charge against the president of the united states, jake tapper tried to get some answers last night.

>> no. this isn't about politics at all. i don't think that the 2020 election is going to ride on this. we're operating collectively. it's not going to be somebody put something on the table. we have our own, shall we say, communication with each other. >> okay. >> i'm not going to answer -- with all due respect, i'm not going to answer one charge. we're not writing the articles of impeachment here tonight. >> you can see her struggling there because they're not settled on the specifics, how many articles, how much, if any of the mueller report do you bring into them? whatever your views at home, it looks, if they keep on their schedule right now, that a week from today the house judiciary committee could be voting on articles of impeachment against the president of the united states, and nobody has seen them. are the democrats open to criticism in the process that you're saying a president should be removed from office, you're

voting to impeach him. to send it to the senate with that question, shouldn't the american people and congress have some time to look this over? >> they're already getting that criticism, and i think it's a valid critique, and it's one the white house hopes they can sort of run with. of course, there is going to be a second part to this process where it will go to the senate, but you do get the sense that despite initial reports, there isn't a place in the senate for a drawn-out process there, either, because it cuts both ways. you have republican senators who are fairly vulnerable, take cory gardner, in the election, and this is not something they want running right into their reelection campaign. so i think that is certainly a point of attack, a point of criticism that democrats could find themselves dealing with, but they've made the conclusion that a good impeachment is a fast impeachment. >> on the house side, speaker

pelosi, one of the reasons she's quiet here is she's trying to do the math herself. she believers ss she has the vo. she wouldn't go forward if she didn't think she had the votes to impeach the president. here's one from a very tough district back home saying, it doesn't matter. based on everything i've heard today, i'm a no vote. >> unless there is something again that i haven't seen, haven't heard before, that has been my position for reasons that i've staked out. for numerous reasons, the reason i staked out, be careful what you wish for. >> naethat's a more conservativ moderate democrat from a tough state. he's saying, i have to listen to the people back home. that's the challenge for pelosi as she tries to work this. this is jarrett huffman. she's juggling chain saws and

kittens and doing so with apparent composure. it would be hard to characterize this as anything but reluctant. this is not where she wanted to be, even a couple months ago. do we have any sense of how many she's going to lose? >> there were two democrats that voted against impeachment on the floor. she came here reluctantly, but now she's that she's in the impeachment, she's going to tightly control the process. she's the one that said draft the articles of impeachment, she opened the inquiry, she ordered the people in charge of this. at the same time she said, we're not going to whip this, we're not going to force members into this, but you know they'll be crafting these articles in close consultation with these moderate members to make sure they're comfortable with everything. >> this is largely about perception, right? she's not going to put it up if it's not going to pass, so it

should go through. the question is how many democrats can she lose without looking like the caucus is divided, like democrats are in a weak position moving into the next election. >> republicans are seeing that. they're already trying to drum that up as they move into their own primary. is it five, is it eight, is it four? that's the kind of perception math that they're doing. >> the republicans we're all talking to think about this in terms of circles of influence, right? there are a few dozen democrats for whom this puts them in a really sticky situation, and there's probably around a dozen or so where it's a super tough situation and we know there is a couple that will already be a no on this. that magic number, if it's less than five, it's probably predictable. if it's more than five, it's potentially a problem. for the history books it matters what the no vote is. but for political purposes, even more important than the no vote is just how uncomfortable and how vulnerable are those yes votes that they actually get.

>> one of the challenges for the democrats, especially, again, given the president's skills, he's instructing his organization, but he's keeping his base loyal. did they make a mistake? most republicans were very happy with the intelligence committee hearings. they thought adam schiff plowed through. they thought the witnesses presented some pretty damning evidence, but in their report they said rudy giuliani had called a number in charge of management and budget. the numbers are pushing back on that. giuliani called a number that house investigators say is associated with the white house's budget office may have simply been calling to and from the white house, according to information obtained by cnn. cnn has learned that the number the house intelligence committee's impeachment report

said was associated with the office of management and budget is a number that could go to multiple officials within the white house complex, including the white house itself. people say he was calling specifically about the hold on the military money. why would he be calling otherwise? is this it? >> i don't know if it's a big deal or not in the big scheme of things, but what it does show is there is a need for democrats to be careful here about what evidence they are putting out. because it is an important distinction, whether rudy giuliani was calling the white house, maybe calling the president through the switchboard or calling mick mulvaney and whether he was calling directly to the office of management and budget. the fact that they may not have known the answer to that question before they put out these call logs is -- there's no real good excuse for that. and i think that it really calls into question the carefulness with which they're putting out some of this information, and it's only going to erode their standing with the public if

people feel like they're not taking the evidence seriously. >> they should not try to connect dots they can't definitively collect. the flip side is the white house can clear this up with transparency and release where the phone call went with other documents they have withheld. there are definitely two sides to this one. next to us, an update from pensacola after a tragic morning. a shooting at an air force base. pensacola after a tragic morning. a shooting at an air force base. pensacola after a tragic morning. a shooting at an air force base. pensacola after a tragic morning. a shooting at an air force base. mike bloomberg's never been afraid of tough fights, the ones that make a true difference in people's lives. and mike's won them, which is important right this minute,

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pensacola, florida in shock today after a deadly shooting this morning at the piensacola air station. three people dead and a number injured after a shooter opened fire in a classroom on that base. he wounded two sheriff's deputies, both shot before killing the shooter. one said the crime scene felt surreal. >> this is particularly hard for me as a retired military member. walking through the crime scene was like being on the set of a movie. as the mayor eloquently put it, you don't expect this to happen at home. this doesn't happen in scambia county, it doesn't happen in pensacola, it doesn't happen to our friends and neighbors who are members of the united states navy. but it did. and it has. for now we're here to pick up the pieces. >> the base remains on lockdown as the investigation continues. joining me, shimon prokupecz and

admiral john kirby. shimon, let me start with you. what's happening here? >> it's still very early in the investigation, john. key now, according to everyone we're talking to, is the motive. that is something both the fbi and officials there on the base are trying to figure out. they are not speculating whether it's terrorism or not, they're not indicating either way. so that investigation, that is an important part of this. that is still very much underway. and the other thing we're hearing are stories of really two sheriff deputies who are the heroes here stopping the shooter. they were on scene within minutes and they were able to shoot, and what investigators believe, kill this shooter. they, too, were injured, the two deputies, one being shot in the knee and the other one shot in the arm. a total of 11 people shot, including, obviously, the gunman, and as we've been reporting three dead. we don't know much about the

victims. this all taking place just before 7:00 a.m. local time. obviously early in the morning there. but i think, john, the big thing here now and what has investigators focused and concerned here is the motive, which we have yet to learn about, obviously, but that is going to be the central focus here right now for investigators. >> admiral, as you watched the photos from outside the gates there, you're looking at a place that for you for five years was home. >> it was. >> tell us about that. 7:00 a.m. in a classroom. this is largely a training base. take us there. >> it is a training base. huge. it's basically training for aviation both on the technical maintenance side as well as pilots and flyers. so the fact this happened early in the morning, that's not to be totally unexpected because you get these classes started early in the morning. it's the navy. so these students, because they're in training, and aviation training in particular, they're not going to be armed. this isn't like an infantry base

where you have soldiers who are issued weaponry. these are men and women who are coming to class for the day to learn whatever it was they had to learn that day. >> it's a small city, right? 23,000 people, schools for the children -- >> there's no schools for the kids, but there's preschool and daycare kind of thing. but it is a small city. there are gas stations, a grocery store. my son was born in the naval hospital just off base. 20,000 or more people, about a third of them are civilians and families live on that base. there is a significant number of housing there. >> i've been there before. shimon and admiral kirby, i appreciate this on a tough day there. a boost in the latest snapshot of the jobs market. get skin healthy™

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strong news, very strong news for the u.s. economy this morning. a jobs report showed a very robust hiring market last month. investors clearly loving it. you see the dow up 331 points. it's also good news for the president as he argues the economy is strong enough to withstand trade tensions and as he gears up, of course, for the 2020 campaign. the numbers first from cnn's christine romans. >> the labor market catching economists by surprise.

266,000 jobs added, which surprised investors, and they continued to hire at a pretty brisk pace. that brought unemployment down to 3.5%, still the lowest in 50 years. 3.5% is nearing full employment in this country. it should mean anyone who wants a job has a job, and companies are really looking for workers. where are the sectors? where is the hiring? health care again a very strong part of the economy. 40,000 jobs there, john. 414,000 jobs over the past year. make no mistake, health care is a really strong driver in the country right now. and manufacturing. look at that big manufacturing number. what's that all about? gm and auto production. after the gm strike ended, a lot of those workers went back. 44,000 on the very far right of your screen are gm workers. manufacturing bouncing back because of the end of the gm strike.

john? >> james pelato joins our conversation. trade tensions with china, uncertainty about the u.s.-mexico-canada trade agreement, the global slowdown. yet the u.s. economy -- >> a few years ago, people thought a recession would be in the middle of the 2020 campaign, and now the consumer spindi inss really strong, the stock market is really high. this all is good for the president. he's trying to say look at the economy i've delivered for everybody, you need to support me in 2020. as far as today goes, it was a really good day for him. >> and the sense of that, as we go into the campaign, i saw governor patrick saying, people are still working low-paying jobs, minimum jobs. families have to work two jobs. the economy adding 200,000-plus

jobs on average now, it's hard. >> it is hard, but i do think this is the rationale for the pop populace. they're thinking about things like college eligibility, because even if people have jobs, can they afford things you would have previously associated with the middle class. is that hammer hanging over your head making you sick the next day, holding you back from feeling like the economy is doing really well for you. i think people acknowledge largely these numbers as you see them on paper, but there is some real anxieties in middle and lower class america that some of these democratic candidates are trying to speak to. and the report in the "washington post" about the trump campaign, trying to come up with some kind of student loan plan also speaks to the fact that they know this is a really transient issue for voters. the voters are employed but can they go to college?

are they burdened by student debt? do they feel like they can afford to have their kids go to college? i don't think this issue is going away any time soon. >> it will be a fight, but if you're an incumbent of the republican party, it continues. if you look at swing states and the manufacturing jobs in some of those swing states, it has been a tough year for manufacturing. look at michigan, wisconsin and ohio, all key to the president's 2016 map and his 2020 reelection plans. the president has a big decision to make in his trade negotiations with china. this was his take just yesterday. >> we'll have to see, but right now we're moving along. we're not discussing that, but we're having major discussions. on december 15, something could happen, but we're not discussing that yet. we're having very good discussions with china, however. >> very muted in his language there. sometimes he gets more spicy when talking trade, he gets more confrontational.

but it is a big decision. his argument has been, and on the trade issue he's been more consistent. his argument has been, yes, it hurts farmers, yes, it hurts ranchers, yes, it hurts some of my voters, but we have to do this, stand up to china. the economy is strong enough to get through it. today's report would suggest, at least on that point, that he's right. >> i think the politics speak back to abby's point, right? the question is how does this economy feel for people? if you're a farmer, say, in wisconsin, it may not feel that hot for you, and given how close the election was last time and given how close people expected it to be this time, think about the margins for the farmers. if you work for walmart and you're trying to afford child care and you can't, it might not be that hot for you, either. those people facing those kinds of economic challenges while not being taken into account in those broader positive numbers could be an issue.

>> you just went to pennsylvania and interviewed some farmers. they're mad, they're angry, they blame the president. but -- >> i think he's sort of backstabbing the main people who got him into office in the midwes midwest. all those midwest states helped to vote him in and also pennsylvania, and he just let us down. >> will you vote for him again in 2020? >> unless they come up with a better alternative, i'm going to vote for him again. >> saying i'm not going to vote for trump, that would be one way to retaliate personally. i don't see that happening at this point. >> it's a giant challenge for democrats to find a compelling message because people are hurting, their families are hurting, their bank accounts are hurting, their lives are stressed. and they're saying, i'll probably stick with him. >> this has been central to the joe biden message and that is that it matters who the nominee

is, and you see in all the early research that even swing voters who are very uncomfortable with president trump's stylistic moves, it matters who the democratic nominee is as to whether they would vote for the president or not. the president's idea on trade, it seems like he's leaning to the idea of pushing china down the road and saying, i've been tough on china and as a result we're making progress. that's a message most americans understand. most americans are not international economy experts, and if the president can make the case to people who might vote for him, anyway, that his tough move on china rocks the boat. this is one thing he can strongly argue on the merits of impeachment and that stuff. >> the president's foreign top

adviser said, yes, there will be a recession. you have a long period of growth that dates back to the obama administration. his point is he thinks it will come after the 2020 election. is that the best consensus? >> it seems so, but as lisa mentioned, a lot of this is perception and momentum, and the last thing the white house wants is to hit this peak now and be sliding the wrong direction in the summer of 2020. there might be a recession in 2021. that can change if the china talks go south and there's a big trade war in january and february. then we're really in a mess next year. >> we're ending this year with a strong economy. > we made usaa insurance for members like martin.

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. important news from capitol hill this hour. james says he's ready to vote yes on abuse of power, obstruction of justice and

enough evidence for misdemeanors. nancy pelosi is trying to keep democratic no votes to a minimum by having a republican side with the democrats. how much does that help her case to say it's modestly bipartisan but not all democrats? >> they would probably rather have an actual republican, but for me it's a reminder fortunate one republican who did support impeachment and had to leave the party. there is absolutely no room for criticism in donald trump's party. >> it's an interesting point as we go forward. the congressman wants to see the writing first but he's prepared to do that, which i guess isn't a shock. we're still waiting to see if he would be a libertarian candidate. for speaker pelosi, this is really personal. her legacy guaranteed, one piece of it, would be that she led the process to impeach a president. here's her take.

>> this impeachment process is historical. how do you want to be remembered as part of it? >> no, i want to be remembered as part of the affordable care act. i would hope that my legacy would be one of respect, one of fairness and one of honoring my oath of office to protect and defend the constitution of the united states from all enemies, foreign and domestic, so help me god. >> and again, you see the wrestling. she, even now, often talks about a lot of important policy stuff we're doing, but there is no escaping this. she is the speaker who green-lighted the impeachment of the president of the united states. >> she says she would rather be talking about literally anything else, which is why yesterday when she started her press ko s conference, she had a long list of these policy priorities they wanted to get done. this has been her strategy from day one. and some of it is about the politics of this, making it clear, countering the

president's argument that democrats actually do have an agenda, that they do want to deal with health care, they want to deal wi to deal with tariffs and all this other stuff and impeach. is secondary to that. it's an obligation they have, because if they don't deal with it, this has to do with the next election that the president, in their view, is actively trying to meddle. >> you're part of great reporting in "politico," what happens when you get to the senate? the president tweeting, i want the bidens, i want pelosi, i want schiff. republicans saying, we don't necessarily need all of them. we call john bolton, we call urnt biden? okay. we can do that. is it needed to be able to make a decision based on the evidence we're looking at right now? >> they have vulnerable members they're looking at now. they have an institution that

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topping our political radar today, another congressional retirement. george holding said he won't run for next year. he said this congressional district helped make that decision. he hopes to return to congress sometime in the future. secretary of state mike pompeo is considering a run in the senate back home in kansas. this after exclusive reporting that pompeo held an off-the-books meeting with a conservative group bhwhile in london, including donors. they we they were told the meeting was so hush-hush that he made sure

nothing could be recorded. and the ranking republican on the house intelligence committee repeatedly invoking the "your guess is as good as mine" defense. devin nunes spoke over the phone to one of rudy giuliani's now indicted ukranian fixers. he said he can't say what he talked about are lev parnas even if he talked with lev parnas. >> what did you discuss with lev parnas? >> i don't know because i've never met parnas like i filed in federal court. it's a great question that people want to know, including myself. >> you never had any phone conversation with him? >> we have not been able to confirm that yet. no offense, but i didn't even know who yavonovitch was until the last couple months. >> an attorney for parnas quickly tweeting at nunes saying

his client remembers and saying in that quote, #letlevspeak. >> there are a lot of things that devin nunes probably does remember that he doesn't want to talk about right now. i think if you called someone and you spoke to them on the phone, you would probably remember them, especially if they're not someone that, like, the average person knows who they are. it's hard to believe right now, but i don't know that there is enough evidence to prove otherwise until there is evidence. >> very busy congressman, he talks to very few ukranian americans. breaking news out of pensacola following that investigation. three people are dead at the naval air base. barbara starr has more information. barbara, what are we learning? >> reporter: john, we are being told by several officials that

the suspected shooter in the incident in pensacola was a member of the saudi military. this is a person who was at pensacola most likely for training, because that is what happens there, but several u.s. officials are now saying it was a member of the saudi military that was the suspected shooter. law enforcement and the u.s. military continuing the investigation, trying to get as much as they can about all of this. one investigator telling our david shortell they just don't know if it was terrorist related at this point. they're looking into, obviously, all motives as they would in any investigation like this. cnn has reached out to the saudi embassy here in washington but has not yet heard back from them. obviously this will be -- besides being a terrible tragedy for the families involved in all of this, it will be a very

sensitive diplomatic issue between the united states and the saudis for any number of reasons, the least of which is president trump has a very close, personal, diplomatic relationship with the saudi regime. u.s. forces are in saudi arabia protecting saudi oil fields. no indication at this point that any of that is related to this, but it is the backdrop of the u.s.-saudi military relationship right now, and this will make it all the more sensitive. john? >> at a minimum. interesting questions as the investigation goes forward. barbara, i appreciate the reporting on this breaking story. admiral john kirby rejoins us at the table. this is not uncommon in u.s. military training installations to have allies send forces in to train as well. the shooter identified allegedly as a saudi. what will happen now? >> this obviously will change the character of this criminal investigation potentially to

terrorism related. i think they will also be taking a hard look at other foreign nationals that are going through this training. i'm sure he's not the only saudi national that's going through this, so i suspect they'll be talking to the others as well to see if there is any coordination here, if there is anything more to it than what it appears right now. so it's going to change the character of the investigation, and i wouldn't be surprised if the navy also takes a look now at the program going forward. >> to that point, barbara starr at the pentagon is still with us. not that the pentagon wouldn't be involved, barbara, obviously you have a tragedy on a military installation. but i bet there is a bigger interest now to have the base investigated with the local authorities there and just keeping the pentagon looped in, i assume now because you have international complications this becomes much more a factor in your building. >> if it hasn't happened already, i think we can assume in matters like this the fbi will take it over. they have done so in these kinds

of incidents in the past, obviously, and that means the navy, the pentagon, will be providing them with any information they want. in cases like this, certainly investigators will be talking to other students at pensacola. it would be a standard procedure, to see if they knew anything. did this person make any comments? was there any behavior, were there any indications that, you know, even now looking back? was there any history with this person? so all of that will be gone through. but, you know, the u.s. military is very respectful of fbi jurisdiction and the international issues. i suspect on a government-to-government level, you won't publicly see much change. but behind the scenes, the very top brass here in the pentagon has very direct communications

all the time with the saudi military. the u.s. central command has direct communications with the saudi military. it's very likely there will be conversations about this. not likely we're going to see the nuts and bolts of those conversations, but i think right now we're going to see a lot of deference to the fbi with everyone from the navy to the pentagon to the local sheriffs, the local law enforcement on the ground that did such remarkable work trying to bring this all to a close this morning. >> admiral kirby, you had some unique perspective in the sense that not only were you stationed for five years, you worked at the state, you worked at the pentagon. what happened when you will have pentagon officials, state officials, fbi officials now wanting information from the saudis about the suspect's family, about relations, about any communications just as you would scrub a crime scene here, social media communications, anything back home. how does that work?

>> presumably we would work with the interagency, the fbi coming up with more information about this individual, what he was doing, how long he had been through this program in the training, where he came from. we're needing international support from that. so now i think the state department will also get involved in terms of reaching out through their channels of communication to try to glean information. but it does change the character of this incident. not to mention you'll have grieving families. the navy has to make sure they're looking out for the victims and the victims' family, not to mention training on the base and how it gets back up to speed. >> barbara starr, admiral kirby, i appreciate your opinions this morning. the shooter identified as a saudi military for training purposes. thanks for joining us for "inside politics." we'll continue with brianna keilar after a quick break.

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