light bulk problem. you can see the line around his face where the make-up or the tanner or whatever it is stops. it's a whole system. it's a whole thing. but, hey, you heard him say his administration is looking into all this so let's leave it there. sleep well, america, and know the president is working hard from his throne room to get the gridlock unclogged on the ridiculist. i want to hand it over to chris and "cuomo prime time." >> as good a metaphor for the state of play as there can be. anthony, thank you very much. i am chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." as you know, a u.s. naval base has become a crime scene for the second time in a week. this time it was a saudi military member named as the murderer. we're waiting on a presser from the fbi. they took over the case. now, one obvious item of interest is motive, specifically was this an act of terror? that means something different to the fbi. they have to check certain boxes.

we'll see what they say. as soon as it goes live, i'm going to take it. and we're also going to look more deeply at who comes to our government and from where? and rudy giuliani is making moves that may be making things worse for this president. we have a big senate player here tonight with what it all means to him. what do you say, happy friday, let's go after it. like i said, as soon as they tell me that the press conference is ready, i think we should listen to it. yes, we have a lot of other show planned but we can get fresh information on this very primary interest of why did this person do this. we know what happened at the base in pearl harbor. they are investigating that as some type of mental health situation. this one seems to be different, all right. so when the fbi is ready, we will go to them. here's what we know.

a saudi air force member, a secretary lieutenant in the saudi military is named as the suspected murderer of three. i think eight people went away originally with injuries. a couple of left. we're waiting for an update on all of their dispositions as well. the suspect had been training three -- for two years on a dime of the saudi government according to the pentagon. now, this is done a lot, there's a lot of training that goes on with international people in america. president trump was quick to help distance the kingdom from the attack. >> the king said that the saudi people are greatly angered by the barbaric actions of the shooter and that this person in no way, shape or form represents the feelings of the saudi people who love the american people so much. >> if you've noticed in the past, this president is slow to excuse people when things happen, but not the saudis. and we do know that they are cooperating with the fbi's investigation. terror, of course, is a great concern here and is being

examined, but we'll have to see if the fbi feels that that's what this was about. as we wait for more word, let's bring in cnn counterterrorism analyst phil mud and aaron david miller. phil, i don't know if you heard my question there. but you were part of this type of process. you also did some work for the saudis individually. so what do you understand about how the u.s. government makes these kinds of determinations and whether or not this risk is part of the analysis. >> it's got to be part of the analysis. after 9/11 when i was at the bureau, you have to sit back and look at a couple categories of people. there are people here who are immigrants of saudi arabia. there are not thousands but tens of thousands of students on this base alone, there's hundreds of foreigners, a lot of saudis training in this country on military bases because we obviously sell billions in military equipment. you step back and say if you're dealing with tens of thousands of people from the saudi

military, from the student population, you got to do a risk assessment. look at if they have a criminal record -- >> let's hold it up. they were just doing introductions but now we're into the meat of it. let's listen to it. >> we are working tirelessly to find answers to the many questions surrounding what happened today. the fbi personnel have been here since very early this morning. first to assist our partners at escambia county sheriff's office and ncis and now we are here as the agency coordinating this investigation moving forward. the fbi has available and is providing a wide range of resources, including agents, intelligent analysts and professional staff from multiple field offices well experts from the fbi laboratory division, the evidence response teams from numerous field offices and victim services and many more. these resources will likely

continue to increase and come into this area over the next several hours and days. i just want to remind everybody here that we are all in this together. >> today our evidence response teams began processing which is a large crime scene. their work will continue tonight and into the morning. their work is going to be methodical and it will not and cannot be rushed. they have only one chance to get this right, and this is what we owe to the families. they will be here to uncover what are going to be our critical answers that we are all seeking. we have also been working side

by side throughout the day with our law enforcement partners, with the u.s. attorney larry keefe and his team to push forward in any direction this investigation may take us that being said, we are not prepared at this hour to confirm what may have motivated the shooter to commit this horrific act today. there are many reports circulating, but the fbi deals only in facts, and this is still very much an active and ongoing investigation. as soon as we can, we will share more. we are also not yet officially confirming the shooter's name. there is a process of notification and coordination that is still taking place at this hour. but we will provide that information to you when we can and as soon as we can. until then i want you all to know that we are working this

together, we are going to work this around the clockthis is a 24/7 operation. we need to do this for 24/7 because we got to get this right for the community and everybody gets the answers that they deserve. this is going to take us some time. and we want to thank the public and we want to thank the media for your patience. and i know that's a lot to ask and i do thank you sincerely for taking the patience with this. on behalf of fbi jacksonville and obviously the entire federal bureau of investigation, we offer our support to the families of our innocent victims that was taken today from all of us. >> a really excellent job of this agent, who is in charge of the scene there, agent rojas, conveying a lot of emotion at the hurt that happened because of this murder on this navy base in pensacola.

the headlines are this -- it's a big crime scene, we do know that the shooter traveled around. there are eight people hurt initially. we're waiting for an update on that. they didn't have update information. they asked us to be patient. it's understandable. as for motive, no information available at this tile. rojas even said the name they're not even confirming. i don't talk about murderers' names in these situations, whether they're school shootings or something that's terror suspected. i don't believe the name is meaningful for us, frankly. but they don't have any new information. so let's get to the analysis of what we do know now what the right questions are going forward. phil, you were making the point that you did at the governmental level weigh in, almost like an

actuarial kind of assessment that at some point one of these people may likely go bad. what's that about? >> the business of america's business, whether in the university or corporate business, we open our doors to make sure america is a cultural center for the world. we want students around the world and businessmen to see america and to make sure america allows businessmen and students in to make sure we move forward. if we have tens of thousands just in saudi arabia's case alone, tens of thousands of students coming in, you can't say you're going to close the door to that number of students. you can step back and say if we're going to look at that number of students, we got to work with the saudis and determine things like simple, chris, do they have a criminal background? tougher. let's look at their e-mail or social media accounts and see if they have any connectivity with people of concern. >> this guy was vetted as clean. this guy was vetted as clean. one other quick thing, phil and i want to get to adm. anybody who has been around the military, you're supposed to check weapons and ammunition. was in a handgun. how hard is it to sneak a weapon on to a base? >> oh, give me a break.

this is america. first the person's been here for a while. you're talking about up to two years according to reports in this case. if you want to go into a major military base and ensure everybody driving on to that base gets a full personal and car check going out of the base, no way, chris. that's just not going to happen. that's easy. >> aaron, thank you so much. it's great to have you on the show. the president was very quick to help the saudi king give distance here. we have no information that this was anything other than one evil act at this point. but when it comes to saudi arabia, they do seem to get a wide berth from this president. do you perceive the same? if so, what do you see as the basis? >> no question. it would take an atopic crowbar to separate this president from saudi arabiaoil, money, the prospects of saudi arabia, not as an ally, i consider it more of an episodic security partner and an posh partner but the president i think has created a

margin of error and having worked for four, five administrations, never have i seen this degree of acquiescence or placating the saudi arabia. i think you saw it again today. the president was right to express what he heard from king salman, but the president could also have said i have the firm assurances from the king of saudi arabia himself they're going to cooperate with the fbi in riyadh and we're going to get to the bottom of the circumstances of the deaths of these americans. that he did not say. >> what is the risk of the gentility? this is a man, this president, who usually works on gut. 9/11 may have led this country into iraq but there were no saudis involved than anyone else. this country talked about islam hating this country. the saudis export about as much

money for terrorism in that region and in every one of these situations, this president has held off. what do you think the risk is there? >> the risk is you basically reinforce bad behavior. you create the logic in the mind of an already impulsive and reckless crown prince that mr. trump and the administration will have their back and empirically that's exactly what the saudis have concluded. that's the risk. >> something important for reminding, people will be themuslim, must hate us. remind what an act of terrorism

means in the -- >> you got to know what's inside the person's minds against civilians, non-warring people, not a military act overseas. especially when you're asking about somebody who is operating maybe alone, we don't know if this person was operating with somebody else, you got to understand what they were thinking when they did this. did they want to do this for political purposes. you got to know that. we don't note that yet, chris. >> we don't even know if he's muslim. being from saudi arabia, there could be a presumption and there's no reason to jump. with what's going on right now with how we're dealing with that region of the world, we don't know that this has anything to do with it but what is important in terms of how it handled? >> in large part, chris, it's a question of american credibility. it's a willingness on the part of the administration to understand that relationships in this part of the world have to be reciprocal. you don't simply reply honey in response to a security partner or an ally? sometimes it's necessary to apply vinegar as well. if we don't inject this sort of reciprocity, we end up in a

situation where you end up with bad allies and, worse, adversaries. that is the conundrum the u.s. faces in the middle east today. >> you can imagine the president saying i'm sure you're sorry about this, who was this guy? what do you know about him? tell us what you know right away. your people are not foreign to you, especially when you send them over here. we didn't hear any of that from him. maybe it's going on behind the scenes but probably not and that's the bigger question. phil mudd, thank you very much. adm, i appreciate it. if any other information were to arise, we'll get right back into it and bring it to you. but that is not expected from what we heard from the fbi. it a big scene, it will take time. we don't even have any updates. if i get, it i'll give it to you. now, this question of does this make you rethink what we do? phil mudd said, no, we're want military students here.

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senator blumenthal, i'd like to talk to you about this. the president could have put pressure on the saudi king to give information about this guy. i mean, this president has said all of islam is out to get us. we don't know that the man is muslim but it is the predominant religion there but he goes easy here. he helped them separate themselves from this individual and this event, as he's done in the past with kashoggi. why do you think that happens, this apparent deference and what does it mean to you? >> as you have observed very correctly, the president has given the saudis a very wide berth and the exact reasons for it are somewhat a mystery. he has financial interests that may be coming into play. one of the reasons that i and 200 members of congress have sued the president in blumenthal versus trump and there will be a

hearing this monday is that the financial interests, taking benefits and payments from important governments have been very much a part of this administration and the saudis have spent a lot of money in his hotels, on his properties in new york. it may be an interest that comes into play. but i've advocated reevaluating the entire saudi relationship because of the killing of kashoggi, their disastrous military campaign in yemen, their subjugation of the rights of women and their supporting of terrorism. you mentioned very correctly and this is profoundly important, their role in the 9/11 case. have i advocated on behalf on the 9/11 families who still are seeking justice in our courts against the saudis. >> we don't know this shooting

has anything to do with any political motive whatsoever, but it would be nice to have the saudis trying to give everything they know about this individual to us as quickly as possible. we don't know that it's not happening. we just don't know that the president asked for it, at least in his public comments. on to the world of the known. rudy giuliani i do not believe is the bad guy in this story, i believe he's an agent. i don't know if he's a lawyer working for the president but he's an agent. he's in ukraine making it very public that he is there looking for dirt about corruption with the obama administration, the former ambassador, the bidens. it's all going on and even a tweet that said if ukraine doesn't start helping in these events, they're not going to have u.s. help with their own anti-corruption reforms. significance? >> giuliani is apparently continuing to pursue this crackpot conspiracy theory that the ukrainians, not the russian, interfered in our 2016 elections.

and not only has that theory been completely debunked, it is, in effect, part of putin's propaganda. it a talking point for vladimir putin that it was the ukrainians, not the russian, even though our entire intelligence community says the russians interfered. the senate intelligence committee headed by a republican said the russians interfered. mueller found a sweeping and systematic interference by the russians but giuliani is seeking more evidence. >> he said in a tweet the basic construct is exactly what this president is being prosecuted for right now politically, which is if ukraine doesn't step up and help me, they're not going to get the help they want with anti-corruption reform. one, he's speaking for the united states. two, everybody on the republican

side of intelligence committee said there is no proof that there was any kind of holding they up unless they helped with biden. he just suggested the same, did he not? >> he did and he is continuing to operate this apparent shadow foreign policy that the three amigos and he pursued -- >> they say it's all hearsay and speculation. they don't have an answer for why these people were never corrected in their misbelief in what was going on. it was apparently contagious in being discussed. why didn't they say you're all wrong except for this mystery phone call where the president used the same language that the whistle-blower did except the whistle-blower wasn't public yet. the white house knew about it and used quid pro quo, used it as well. what does that mean for you in the compelling nature of the case? >> the compelling nature of the case comes from the president's owns words, the president's own words in the phone call where the president of the united states is asked by the ukrainian president in one portion, we need those anti-tank missiles.

the next sentence virtually out of the president's mouth is, i need to you do us a favor, though. what's established here is soliciting a bribe. remember, soliciting a bribe is itself bribery. >> it doesn't have to be effected. >> it doesn't have to be effected and it can be an act that would have been done anyway. it is soliciting bribery amounts to asking for a favor or a personal benefit in return for performing an official act. >> so what do you do when the senate, if there's a trial and it seems like there will be and it's obviously controlled by the republicans and they have rudy giuliani and others come in and dump tons of information about how ukraine was the source of interference and the bidens and burisma were thick with corruption, that's what that trial could be about if they want to. they control the rules. it's just a simple majority

vote. >> their effort is going to be to distract and distort. that's the meaning of giuliani's trip abroad. >> he says he'll testify. this new friend of his over there says he wants to come in and talk about it. >> the question will be whether or not the republicans in the senate want that kind of circus. >> why wouldn't they? >> a show which may undermine their position, may demean the solemn and serious effort that's under way and here's the other point, chris. this theory, conspiracy theory that has no basis in fact of law that the ukrainians somehow interfered in our election is more than a distraction, it is actually dangerous to our national security. it is putin's talking point, his propaganda and disinformation and it makes us complacent about the continuing russian attack on our elections. nothing could be more serious. i hope my republican colleagues will not only face their constitutional duty to abide by the facts and the law but also

avoid this kind of circus and show that i think will back fire on them. >> i was pleasantly surprised to hear lindsey graham said exactly that, it was rush. on the house side i have to get some real dentistry to have republicans say, yes, the russians did it in 2016. and you're going to be up against that when it comes to the senate. senator, thank you so much on a friday night for being with us. >> thank you as well. >> i'll see you so. there is someone who knows a lot more about the ukraine showdown than even some congressional investigators. has vladimir putin been listening in on president trump's calls? it's a concern. why? andrew mccabe explains next. --for massive capacity-- --and ultra-fast speeds. almost 2 gigs here in minneapolis. that's 25 times faster than today's network in new york city. so people from midtown manhattan-- --to downtown denver-- --can experience what our 5g can deliver. (woman) and if verizon 5g can deliver

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all right. if you're following rudy's rovings, he tells cnn he's no longer in ukraine. but he was there and we know what he was doing, drawing a lot of attention and really casting a pretty big shadow over this impeachment situation. and now let's talk about what it could mean. let's bring in andrew mccabe. so there are two big things to look at in terms of significance. help me understand why i should care about this first one, which i only kind of care about. so don't be nice about it. the idea that they were communicating over cell phones and not secure lines, russia could be listening, why does that matter a lot? >> okay. so here's why it matters. the job of every foreign intelligence service is to collect what professionals refer to as information about the

policies, plans and intents of your adversary. so their job is to go out and collect information about what our leadership is thinking, what they're planning to do and how they're going to execute those actions. there is no bigger target in the world for policies, plans and intents and information than the president of the united states. he is the crown jewel of all targets. so let's put aside for a moment the question of whether or not the president is actually using a cell phone from the oval office and think about the president speaking to someone else in a country like ukraine, who is using a cell phone. right now we know that rudy giuliani is supposedly doing that. we have reason to believe from the phone records that he has talked to the president from there before and we know that gordon sondland did that as well. ukraine is probably the most thoroughly penetrated country on

earth by the russian intelligence service. ukraine operates almost with complete freedom there. rudy giuliani is known as a close adviser and confidante and counsellor of the president. >> how easily can they tap your phone? >> very easily. in that part of the world intelligence services have almost unfettered access to cellular services and internet providers, things of that nature. and the technology to intercept individual cell phones that are in use is widely available now, things that were totally cutting edge a few years ago are widely used across intelligence services around the globe. so the idea that rudy is being covered by a foreign intelligence service, i'd bet the farm on it. if they are listening to his phone, they now know the private conversations of the president of the united states and his attorney. >> and my point of emphasis is that all they have to do is watch the news or read twitter and they'll know more than they

need to know about what the plans and the intent is right now because rudy giuliani said something that i can't believe the president's team wants him to say. he said in a tweet, hey, ukraine, you're not going to get u.s. help in your anti-corruption reform efforts if you don't help me with what i'm doing with the bidens. how is that helpful to the president's impeachment case? >> it's not helpful at all. it resonates with all of the concerns being voiced by the democratic side. and it also undercuts in a significant way the president's -- one of his primary defenses, which is that he was pressuring ukraine not for his own benefit but rather to address legitimate corruption issues. having his own personal attorney off the grid doing god knows what in ukraine, talking to people like andre derkotch who has an extensive historical connection with russian-backed

politicians and intelligence officials in ukraine, it just a perfect storm of bad circumstances. >> you're certainly not going to have a hard time finding russians in ukraine who want to put stink on ukraine for what happened in 2016. we know that out of putin's own mouth. now, here's the part i don't get, andrew. this is why we need your mind on this. i don't understand how any of this helps the case. forget about the subtle threat to ukraine to step up or they're not going to get the u.s. help, which is what the president is accused of doing. but even if rudy is right about everything, obama was dirty, you know, the former ambassador was dirty, the bidens with burisma was done a little dirty, even if he's right about all of it, how does it change the case against the president? because it's still how you went about getting that type of investigation done. you should have done it yourself or in the senate with the d.o.j. you're not supposed to go to ukraine and hold up aid to get it, even if it's true. isn't that right?

>> that is right. that's absolutely right. so why he's doing this, i mean, only rudy knows. but two things i would suggest. one, there is clear political value to the president to just create a distraction, to go put up as many false narratives and conspiracy theories to get people thinking about those potential bad things rather than the bad things that the president is alleged to have done. and the second thing is i do think that there's an element here of rudy kind of saving himself in a way. he seems to be going like further and further down this rabbit hole in an effort maybe to find the one, you know, verifiable piece of proof that will show the world that, ah-ha, he was right all along. >> and he may be right. he can be right and it doesn't change the analysis. people think it's personal, even though rudy tried to decapitate

me on television but that i say he's not the problem here. rudy is the agent. that's all he is. if he's right about all of it, burisma, the bidens, ukraine, fine. present the evidence, let's see what we do about it. it doesn't change the analysis. it's not about rudy. it's about how the president went about getting what he wanted and why. andrew, i'm out of time. thank you, you're always a plus for the audience. >> something very important has come up. i pass it along to you right now. >> we have a situation right now where we're looking very strongly at sinks and showers and other elements of bathrooms where you turn the faucet on, people are flushing toilets ten times, 15 times. >> and the democrats don't have somebody that for sure can beat this guy? i want to bring in the wizard of odds. that's what they're up against, wiz. and democrats are scrambling to find an answer. next.

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we're looking very strongly at sinks and showers and other elements of bathrooms, where you turn the faucet on and areas where there's tremendous amounts of water, where the water rushes out to see because you could never handle it and you don't get any water. you turn on the faucet and you don't get any water. they take a shower and water comes dripping out. it's dripping out very quietly dripping out. people are flushing toilets ten times, 15 times as opposed to once. they end up using more water. so epa is looking at that very strongly at my suggestion. >> at his suggestion. and you wonder why bloomberg got in. and yet this president is seen as very formidable to the wizard of odds himself, harry enten. here's why, despite what we just heard.

he's basically attacking overregulation, big government. he's still tough to beat, not because of how he is but because of what's gone on despite him, mostly in the economy. what do we know? >> i think this is rather important. what a conversation, toilets and so forth. >> potty mouth. >> hilarious. this is basically the yearly job growth weighted over each two years. the winners have very good job growth, all had 1.1 or before, nixon, 3.6%. 4.6% for reagan. the losers had poor job growth. carter and bush got blown out and they were below 1%. we see what has clearly often been described as it's the economy, stupid, and that seems to be the case. >> and jobs and income numbers just went up and that helps the president as well. >> let's put this in context. where the president is versus

where the winners and the losers were. the average yearly job growth in those final two years, the presidents who won reelection, 2.5% growth. the presidents who lost averaged 1% growth. where is trump? trump over the last year is right in the middle at 1.5%. >> he sells it as being the best ever. >> he sells a lot of things at being the best ever. sometimes he sells toilet pressure being the best ever. i think this is rather important is that growth is what's important. it's not the absolute levels. it's where you've grown. with the economy, we're running into a wall since we're near max employment. >> you think the democrats can use the economy against this president? >> i think that the economy is not the silver bullet that he necessarily thinks it is, although it's certainly really helpful because if you take a look here, we see trump's standing on the economy 55% in our latest poll but that is

below his overall approval rating of 42%. voters are judging him stronger on the economy, which is why he should be talking more about the economy than other things. >> he sells it as the best ever. it's obviously working because the number of -- that growth percentage you're showing middle of the road would not justify 55%. >> it's working to the extent that if you were to say okay, if you approve of trump's job, why is it? here are the top five reasons. this is rather interesting. among those who say they approve of trump's job, 26% say the economy, jobs and unemployment 8%, getting things done, doing a good job generally speaking related to the economy, so people who approve that the job the president is doing, they do so because of the economy. >> so if you are looking to figure out what the best avenue is for change, what is it? is it to go at the man directly? >> i think that's exactly right. these are trump's presidential qualities. you can read that, look at it up on the screen. majorities all say, no, he does not have these qualities. majorities are saying the president doesn't have these

presidential qualities and that is why in spite of what they approve of in a strong economy, he is behind in at least a number the horse race polls we've seen. go after the man, say he's unpresidential and that's why you saw a lot of good response to biden's ad this week. >> do you think you could name another person who could ever win a presidential election talking about people needing to flush 10 to 15 times? >> no, but that could have been a student council election -- >> probably shouldn't call him the wiz given the context of that conversation but it's too late. nikki haley, she's taking heat. did you hear what she said about the confederate flag?

i have it as the basis of the argument. it's bigger than her but she has to get away from what's coming her way. next. we're reporters from the new york times.

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all right. you ready? this is a tough one tonight. this moment was a defining moment for then-governor nikki haley. the confederate flag came down at south carolina state at the capitol after the charleston church massacre. it was big. it meant a lot all over the country and for her personally. but now haley is floating a new theory about why the flag had to come down. listen to this. >> here is this guy that comes out with his manifesto holding the confederate flag and had just hijacked everything that people thought of. you know, people saw it as service and sacrifice and heritage. but once he did that, there was no way to overcome it. >> service, sacrifice, and heritage? service to slavery.

the sacrifice of the slaves. and the heritage of slavery. that's what it was about. haley knows one murderer didn't co-opt that flag. he used it for what it is, like every other bigot and white extremist. these guys, the kkk, neo-nazis, right-wing nationalists. and, again, haley knows this. this is the worst part. here's the proof. >> it just never should have been there, and these grounds are a place that should be -- that belong to the people of south carolina. and what i realize now more than ever is people were driving by and they felt hurt and pain. no one should feel pain. >> never should have been there. she got it, and she should because it was, is, and always has been obvious, especially as a family like hers. immigrants who felt the sting of being an other.

so the question is why pump up this flag? is she falling in line with this trumpy forgetfulness of what bigotry is, the malignancy of it? is she trying to curry favor with certain voters like the leader of her party does? >> you know what i am? i'm a nationalist, okay? i'm a nationalist. >> you really want to be like that? playing with ideas and labels that are used by white nationalists, 20th century dictators, and now apparently the president of the united states? are you going to start to wonder about whether islam is now out to get us because maybe the saudi murderer is muslim and the navy base is proof that she's got to be like her ex-boss? >> donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the

united states. >> it's not about haley. it's bigger than she is. standing idly by as supporters chant sending back a member of congress. remember this? >> send her back! send her back! send her back! >> born here by the way, the person they were talking about. look, demonizing practically anyone who crosses the southern border. it's all part of the same idea, this. >> they're bringing drugs. they're bringing crime. they're rapists. >> is this what nikki haley wants to be? talk like bigotry is benign, nationalism is patriotism, xenophobia is just common sense suspicion of an entire faith? it is not okay. and we know where trump got it. he went out early in this process to visit steve king, as in the king of contempt for latinos. >> for everyone who's a valedictorian, there's another 100 out there that they weigh

130 pounds and they've got calves the size of cantaloupes because they're hauling 75 pounds of marijuana across the desert. >> you know, he learned from that guy. he learned that could be effective with a certain population of his party. but is that who haley wants to be? she was seen as this party's -- you know, the hope. i'll get to more of that in a second because what the party is dealing with right now is capitulation to this feted b.s. the biggest indicator of this party's leaning has become its silence. it is like the malignancy of the ideas from this president will lead nowhere but to more victories, so shh. well, the midterms told you otherwise, but so should this. you don't sell hate in america. you don't do that and get a majority, not now, not ever. too many of us are just a couple generations removed from being the people you attack or that you just sit quiet in the face of when some big shot is doing the same. you empower what you ignore, and

you are complicit in what you excuse. silence is not safety. that's the problem with nikki haley saying what she did about the confederate flag. she's ignoring the obvious, and we know that she knows it's obvious because she said it before she said what she said now. the latest example of a party that has surrendered principle for power, and we see it with impeachment. collective blindness of the obvious. they all know trump was wrong to do what he did, how he did it and why he did it. they know. they were more righteous about clinton's sexcapades than this obvious escapade to procure foreign help in the election. but the normalization of evil symbols and words is even more toxic than impeachment. nikki haley, please, tell us you didn't mean it. tell us that you haven't surrendered the truth for some trumpy notion of popularity. so many saw you as the hope for the future of your party. don't stand as proof that hope is lost. that's the argument tonight. all right.

now, for all of us, "young wonders: a cnn heroes special" is coming up next. enjoy.

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