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that's what they fought against. so it's the most, as i said this morning, the first order of business for congress or anyone engaged in official duties, but speaking for ourselves, is to protect and defend the constitution of the united states. i wish it were not necessary. i wish the president's actions did not make it necessary. but he did. and we would be delinquent in honoring our oath of office if we did not impeach him for not honoring his oath of office. >> there is some discussion about obstruction of justice based on the mueller report being one of the articles. why did you ultimately decide that it wasn't part of this? >> the committee, our members are six committees who have been having legislation, inves investigation, litigation for a long time. everyone came to the conclusion that this was it. i wish we were just focusing on what we are bringing forward,
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because they're very serious violations of our constitution. undermining the national security of the united states, jeopardizing the integrity of our elections, and again, going right at the heart of a system of checks and balances honoring the oath of office. so this isn't talking about what it isn't, this is talking about what is, and that's how we're going forward. >> did you support the idea of a more innarrowly focused article of impeachment? >> i support my chairman, chairpersons. maxine waters, karen maloney, elliott engle, richard kneneal jerry nadler. >> so you're ranking them as you go down. >> yes. >> what is it about the speed with which this is moving?
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>> it's been going on for 22 months, okay? two and a half years, actually. >> there has been some criticism, though, about whether or not you should move forward at the end of the year or wait for the courts. why do you think now is the time to move? >> was it two and a half years ago that they initiated the mueller investigation? it's about urgency. one of the charges against the president of the united states is that he was violating his oath of office by asking a foreign government to intervene in our election, undermining the integrity of our elections. if we did not hold him accountable, he would continue to undermine our election. nothing less is at stake than the central point of our democracy, a free and fair election, not disruptive by foreign powers. and our founders were very concerned about that. and in their wisdom, they gave
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congress, the house of representatives, the opportunity -- not the opportunity because i don't see it that way, but the path to correcting that as impeachment. this is not with any speed. this has been going on for a very long time, but there is a sense of urgency. once we saw the facts presented in the hearing with the foreign service officers, facts made known to the public, some of us had seen them before. the facts made known the constitution as presented by the constitutional experts, and the facts in the constitution, there it is. and so, again, we do this with great sadness, prayerfully, somberly. it's about the constitution of the united states, and if we allow one president, any president, no matter who she or had he may be, to go down this
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path, we are saying goodbye to the republic and hello to a president king. that is what is at stake in this election and this impeachment as well. and when we come to the election, people say, well, you did this, you did that. i say that's not what impeachment is about. if you think, as do i, that he's a coward when it comes to agreeing to protecting children from gun violence, or he's cruel in how he treats d.r.e.a.m.ers, et cetera, or he's in denial about climate change, all of that, that's about the election. that has nothing to do with the facts of the case of the president violating his oath of office, again, undermining our national security. this is a national security issue and it's a constitutional issue as it relates to how he did that. >> let's talk about the politics, because nothing happens in a vacuum here. republicans believe their path to majority in the house is through 31 districts, that the
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house won, that president trump won. impeachment is not popular there. are you worried that impeachment could cost you the majority? >> if we believe that our constitution is being violated, that our very democracy is at stake, that as franklin told us, a republic if you can keep it, and this very person is jeopardizing that, what are we there for? just to continue to have a job? we take an oath to protect and defend. if we did not do that, we would be, again, delinquent in our duties. so it isn't about elections, it's about the constitution. >> you're not worried, though, that this could damage the house? >> that has nothing to do with it. this isn't about politics, it's not about democrats or republicans, this is about patriotism. this is about patriotism. don't take the oath. amend the constitution to take
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impeachment out and say a president can do whatever he wants. the president said article ii says, i can do whatever i want. it doesn't say that at all. it says we have a system of checks and balances, a system of co-equal branches of government. gary wills just did an article that said article i is preeminent. article ii is the presidency. well, if you think i can impeach him but he can't impeach me, then i have some advantage over him. >> we started this conversation, and you mentioned at 9:00 a.m., the chairman announced articles of impeachment. 10:00 a.m., you held a press conference on the usmca trade deal. heads are spinning in washington. there are several critics on the left who are hating you right now for impeaching the president but at the same time giving him a deal on usmca and that you should have waited until the election, because why give him a
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win? how do you sborespond? >> i say the same thing i said to you before. this is not about politics, giving the president a win. on the u.s.-mexico-canada agreement, i don't think any one of us is so important, including the president of the united states, that if we have an opportunity to advance the well-being of america's workers, america's farmers and america's manufacturers, america's interests, that if we have an opportunity to do the right thing by the american people that we should walk away from it because of him? it's just not worth it, in my view. none of us is worth it. not just him, none of us is worth it. so, yeah, there are people who have said -- there are a few. i know there are those that like to amplify any descent who have said why you shouldn't do this. this gives him a win. no. we are so far away from the proposal that he put forth that this is a triumph for american
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workers. we are miles and miles from what he put forth. so he has yielded on what this is. but nonetheless, he'll claim that he wrote it this way, i guess, i don't know. but whether you're talking about the environment, whether you're talking about pharmaceuticals, whether you're talking about workers' rights, whether you're talking about enforcement, we've come miles. first of all, it's much better than nafta, and that's what we wanted to replace. but over and above that, it's way far away from what the president was proposing. he wouldn't even recognize it. but, anyway, he'll claim it. but a collateral benefit, somebody gets a collateral benefit from something, that doesn't mean we shouldn't have the benefit that is for our country, pass up that opportunity. some of these things are very
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perishabl perishable. what's within our grasp right now may not even be there. we're dealing with other countries. >> speaker of the house nancy pelosi on a remarkable day here in washington, a historic day here in washington. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. listening to the speaker for an extended speech there, talking about going forward with two articles of impeachment against the president of the united states. also talking about a whiplash moment, just an hour later appearing in another room to announce an agreement with the very same president of the united states, on a u.s.-mexico-canada trade agreement. impeachment dominating the day, though. the democrats going guard with two articles of impeachment, saying he leveraged the power of his office in his political dealings with ukraine. the second obstruction of congress, saying the president then refused to give any information, documents, witnesses to congress even though it has a constitutional
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right to launch an impeachment inquiry. let's talk about the articles of impeachment and this repoimport day. senior analyst carrie cordero, and karoun demirjian. let's start with the speaker. this involves process, this involves law, but most of all it involves politics. she is front and center on this day making the case to those who disagree with her and even some who wanted something more broad, who wanted mueller, who wanted obstruction of justice, or at least four articles. she said, no, keep it narrow, keep it tight, keep it focused. >> i think this goes back to when she started the inquiry. we want to keep it simple, we want people to be able to understand it, we don't want it to be too complicated. that's what's reflected here. i'm sure there are people who wanted to bring in the mueller findings, but there's not support in the caucus for that at the same level as there is
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for this. to nancy pelosi, this seems clearcut, unavoidable, let's just focus on ukraine. >> focus on what is in here and what's not in here, essentially trying to quiet her own critics. anyone on the left saying we should have gone bigger and bolder, she's saying, let's just march. >> and she has the focus on these issues. the problem is she's been saying that for the last two months and it seems like they brought no one else into the ranks. if you take pelosi's word for it, if it's such a clearcut case of wrongdoing and so simple, either congress is supercesedic at how close this can be. can she keep the democrats in
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line and muzzled for the next few weeks. >> the two articles of impeachment only cover two pages, and at the end it says, donald trump should be impeached and removed from office. cnn's kaitlan collins is live for us. nancy pelosi and the democrats know they have the votes. they will likely bring it to the house floor next week. how does the president respond? >> reporter: john, the white house is responding to this by looking ahead to the senate, the press secretary saying the president is eager to get his side of the story out, and they believe that senate trial is going to be the place where the president can do that. but new reporting to cnn, john, shows that there is a divide between president trump and the senate majority leader over what they think that trial should look like. our sources tell us mitch mcconnell essentially wants this trial to be over with as quickly as possible. he doesn't want his members to take any votes that could potentially be damaging to them. he's going to be keeping an eye,
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and when he gets those 51 votes to get that trial essentially over with, that's something he'll be keeping an eye on. john, that's not what we're hearing the president wants. he wants this to turn into a show. he wants hunter biden, adam schiff and the whistleblower to testify. he wants them to be live witnesses, not these taped depositions like you've seen at impeachment hearings in the past. instead he wants them there in person being cross-examined and essentially wants to turn this into a spectacle because that's how he can inflict damage to the democrats in the election. he's been sitting back waiting and watching as these current former aides have gone forward, testifying about his actions, and now he's ready to have his say at the trial. they have warned pat cipollone, don't turn this into a circus, messages they passed on to the president, but that is not how the president is viewing this. the president is eager to get his story out. >> i think the president is about to be disappointed, both on the speed of the senate
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action and by the scope of the senate witnesses. kaitlan collins live at the white house. we'll get into the details of the articles of impeachment. more on the politics from both sides, the democrats and the republicans. on this momentous day, a somber word from the senate chaplain. >> give them eyes to discern and understand the intricate complexity of this turbulent season. lord, guide our senators to the right paths. lead them beside still waters. restore their souls. ♪ everything your trip needs, for everyone you love. expedia.
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used the powers of the presidency in a matter that compromised the national security of the united states and undermined the integrity of the united states democratic process. number ii said, quote, without prop lawful cause of excuse, president trump directed executive branch agencies, offices and officials not to comply with those subpoenas. president trump thus interposed the powers of the presidency against the lawful subpoenas of the house of representatives and assumed to himself functions and judgments necessary to the exercise of the sole power of impeachment vested by the constitution in the house of representatives. you followed the debate for weeks now. as you look, carrie, at these eight pages, essentially, did the democrats make a case? >> they made a case from the
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substantive reports from the intel committee and the house judiciary committee that contains these articles. the substance of it, what happened in this ukraine matter, go to the heart of the matter, the fact they believed the president abused his power of office, abused the office of the executive for personal, political, partisan and his political advantage. the second part is about the process, and i think more is for history in terms of a president not being willing to respond to the demands of congress for information. and so the first part is on the facts and the substance. the second part is on the process. >> vivian, back to kaitlan's reporting earlier covering the white house, the president said he wants to make his case first with live witnesses. they allowed no live witnesses,
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they had some videotape testimony in the hearing. the president is likely to get that wish, but why is it so important for the president? is the president going to make a factual presentation, i didn't do these things, or a distraction argument, let's turn the attention over here? >> publicly he said he didn't do this at all. he said the transcript was perfect and there was no quid pro quo. but calling on hunter biden or joe biden or even adam schiff, the chairman, he insists the democrats are taking a different path of this investigation by only considering one angle of it without looking at the whole picture. so he defends the white house's decision to block certain witnesses from testifying, a, because they say some of it is subject to executive privilege and they're not supposed to go out and talk about it publicly, but then b, they just say it's unfair and one-sided. >> and let me give you a c. one of those potential witnesses would be the president's acting
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chief of staff who actually went into a white house briefing room on camera and did a briefing in which he essentially pled guilty. he essentially pled guilty to the president of the united states. he said, we withheld the aid in part because we wanted the investigation into the 2016 elections. he said, get over it, it's a fact of life. mick mulvaney speaking again this morning. take this with a grain of salt. he said, i would love to testify if the boss would let me. >> part of me really wants to. we'll do whatever the president wants us to, is what it comes down to. if the senate takes live witnesses and the president directs us to do it, we will. i remind everybody what sondland said. i could barely get him on the phone. >> he'll do that for what he can get for at least 50 votes across the floor. you might see some horse trading
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happen there if you want to get people like adam schiff and hunter biden to come forward, but in order to get people who are subpoenaed and those subpoenas were flouted on the house side. you kind of have a comparison between two different strategies, right? the president is showing he's willing and able to throw the kitchen sink to bring hunter biden, other people to make that argument. democrats are certainly making a very hard and fast case, as carrie pointed out, but they don't pull any punches. they don't talk about bribery here, they're being careful. and the president is not careful. we'll see which one wins out when we're talking gop legislation. >> that's a really good point because the democrats have really adopted the opposite strategy in adopting these articles of impeachment. these are measured, they're limited. they didn't include the many acts of obstruction from the mueller report that they could have. i find that a little bit
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unsatisfying because on one hand, i understand this is a political process and they made a political judgment about that, but from a rule of law perspective, they've given him a pass on a lot of conduct. >> to your point, the speaker has decided here there is no evidence for them to move. therefore her plan is to do this as cautiously as possible. the mueller report is not in there for 25 to 30. that is a political decision without a doubt. we' we'll come back to this discussion a little later. up next, democrats that agree with the president on the major trade deal. when you're in negotiations, even if you're watching a very important football game, you answer the phone. >> sunday when tom brady was about to take it in, all of a sudden i looked at my phone and said pelosi on caller id. long wisdom tells me, the hell with brady, take the call.
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house democrats striking a big bipartisan trade agreement with president trump today. yes, on the very same morning they announced articles of impeachment against that very same president trump. speaker nancy pelosi says democrats are happy to do business with the president on the u.s.-mechanixicu.s.-mexico- agreement, she said, because the
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house listened on restrictive drugs and enforcement mechanisms. >> there is no question, of course, that this trade agreement is much better than nafta. but in terms of our work here, it is infinitely better than what was initially proposed by the administration. it's a victory for america's workers. it's one that we take great pride, great pride in advancing. >> listen to this. quote, we ate their lunch. that is how the speaker described the white house concessions in a private meeting with democrats before that public announcement. we will see, in the hours ahead, if the president decides to respond to that. so far he is very upbeat, quote, the usmca trade bill is looking good. very good democratic support for usmca.
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it was two articles of impeachment at 9:00 a.m. 10:00 a.m., happy to do an agreement with the president. >> i think they believe it's good politics. it takes away one of the talking points that the public has been using. they can't walk and chew gum, they aren't doing anything, all they've done is focus on impeaching the president. look at that second conference and that will tell you all you need to know. there were liberals where every faction of the caucus was rented on that stage because they think this puts a very good front. nancy pelosi says it's not about politics. it's very clearly about politics. >> it's very clearly about politics but trade has been quicksand in this town for a long time. that it happens today you get to the finish line makes it all the more remarkable and somewhat dizzying. this is a big deal. >> right. speaker pelosi can say it's not
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about politics but there are obviously political impacts that will start happening, followed by the fact that president trump gets major victory on two important issues, one for his base, the other being immigration. house democrats really want to go home and say they did something. so this helps them on their talking points level, but if they go back in their district, they could lose votes because of this. we'll see how it works out. >> nancy pelosi is asking those democrats from trump districts to vote yes on impeachment. she's trying to keep defections to one hand if she can. they want to go home and say, if they're going to cast that vote, that's the president's conduct. but i'm working with it. in recent days in syracuse,
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brindisi meets with mike pence. representative axne urges action on usmca, representative torres small, house should vote on trade deal. horn, oklahoma republicans urge agreement on nafta replacement. >> i think at this point impeachment will be a very stark thing to have done, right? this is something big that's probably going to be enough to keep many of them in line just because the cost of breaking from the democrats so completely would be a potential win for the republican supertrump that it would make them look potentially like the flip-floppers and any number of things. but it's a very delicate needle to thread to say a complicated trade bill offsets an emotional impeachment, and to make that argument in political speeches and sound bites to people that feel one way or another about the president, it's a difficult
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narrative. >> and remember, it's 11 months away. to be able to keep this good feeling alive for 11 months is hard. >> at a time when this town does not work in many ways, there is dysfunction everywhere in this town. sad, but a lot of us may be put on steroids or something exponentially greater under president trump. but to have democrats for months and months and months negotiate with rob lighthizer, the u.s. trade representative, actually build up a relationship of trust. they hung up on each other, they screamed at each other, they fought with each other, but throughout that call, they did an old time washington negotiation and a deal that they think benefits, a, american workers, which is most important, but b, both of them, both the president and the democrats. >> it's an amazing thing. it looks remarkable that it's happening on the same day but they've been linked for a long time. this was the play that nancy pelosi was going to make to show, one, that she could, 1,
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walk and chew gum, and 2, it's something for their moderates. the democrats got a lot and they really have been pushing this. this is a good deal for them. they started out with the idea that we want to keep labor neutral. we don't want them opposing this. to get labor endorsed shows there is a lot in there for them, but now republicans are a little nervous. they're like, what's in this deal? but they have to vote for it, so i think it really neutralizes a talking point, shows they can get stuff done. they'll get blowback from the left but i don't think that really worries nancy pelosi at this point. to jackie's point, that press conference was interesting. everyone was there. they'll get a lot of votes. >> look back to the bill clinton impeachment. one of the things that boosted his numbers and prevented him -- and saved him a little bit from his numbers going down is the fact he didn't look distracted,
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he didn't look like he was abandoning the job to the presidency, they were still l s legisla legislating, still cutting deals. in a way that picture of president trump still getting deals was good for him in a way. this was a major talking point for them. now they're saying they're only doing it for impeachment. but they are doing it. up next a big transparency test for peter buttigieg. your job. your dreams. your problems. (indistinct shouting) but at the y, we create opportunities for everyone, no matter who you are or where you're from. for a better us, donate to your local y today.
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kensington & company, a decade ago. elizabeth warren's reaction? >> i'm glad to see what the mayor has done, but it's going to be critical in the fight against donald trump that we have a candidate who can most aggressively make the comparison between trump's administration and how trump has raised money and how the democrats are going to do it. >> what do we make of this sparring among the candidates over transparency and fundraising and mckenzie clients? >> i love to watch this battle. this seems really healthy for a democracy, healthy for politics where two candidates are trying to one-up each other on democracy. she does that, she itemizes to millions earned over 30 years. she announced he release his
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bundlers and open up to fundraisers. what's remarkable is the split of president trump who hasn't even done anything as basic as releasing his tax returns when all the democrats have done that. >> these are the same sector of voters and they will do anything to make sure they have the cleanest record, and these iowa voters, new hampshire voters, that's who they cast their vote for in just a couple weeks. >> you said the key point there jur just a few weeks. up next, the president is mad at his fbi director after christopher wray does something horrible: tells the truth. g goe. beyond the big cities to the small towns... to the people. now, millions of americans can have access to 5g on t-mobile. and this is just the beginning.
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highest level of the fbi, and an attempt, the president says, to overthrow him. but the report says no such thing. not even close. inspector general michael horowitz did find multiple and serious errors by mid-level fbi workers and officials, but mr. horowitz said there was no evidence that fbi leadership was aware of those mistakes, and no evidence, he said, that there was any political bias in the decision-making process. wray here characterizing the findings accurately. >> i think it's important that the inspector general found that, in this particular instance, the investigation was opened with appropriate predication and authorization. >> that quickly eliciting this from president trump on twitter. i don't know what report current director of the fbi christopher wray was reelading, but it sure wasn't the one given to me. with that kind of attitude, he will never be able to fix the
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fbi, which is badly broken despite having some of the greatest men and women working there. in a way this is funny because it's a trump battle with his own people. but it's not funny with the director of the fbi, the leader of the intelligence agency in the united states, speaks his mind. >> it's a gloss palatable to the president, i suppose, that they then get these responses on twitter that their jobs will be terminated sometime soon. this is a sticky situation, right? because wray is correct. and yet it's not as great for the fbi. it does say they followed the rules, they did everything they were supposed to and there was no political bias, but then it says the rules are bad, the rules need to be stronger. this does not actually protect
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situations in which you have investigations that look into constitutionally protected activities, presidential campaigns, changes need to be made across the board. if you're the president, you're cheering right now for that and you want to hear your fbi director take your view of it. the fbi director is protecting his people and protecting his department, his bureau, and trying to take the line that says, look, nobody did anything wrong here even if we have to dig into the mess of making changes. >> there are 40 corrective actions he's moving quickly on. he says, yes, mistakes were made. at any big agency mistakes were made. but he's also reading the report from a guy who has a history of being meticulous, mr. horowitz, and saying, no, jim comey and andrew mccabe were not out to overthrow the president of the united states. there is evidence of that. and nbc news said, no, mccabe
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did not meddle in the 2016 election. there is no evidence of that. to listen to certain networks, the fbi director says be careful. >> there are all kinds of people saying all kinds of things out there. i think it's important for the american people to be thoughtful consumers of information, to think about the sources of it and to think about the support and predication for what they hear. and i think part of us being well protected against maligned foreign influence is to build together an american public that's resilient, that has appropriate media literacy and that takes its information with a grain of salt. >> it is not hard to listen to that and say the fbi director is saying don't believe everything the president says, or don't believe everything you see in prime time on fox news. >> this is a dilemma that's often faced by members of this administration, whether you face loyalty to your constitution or loyalty to the president. here we see the fbi director
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showing loyalty to the institutions, that they did what they did correctly, that there may be issues of the fisa process. we've heard a lot about the anti-trump agencies. this points out there are also pro-trump text messages from pro-trump workers. that doesn't mean they didn't do their job effectively. but this is so core to the president's argument and his counternarrative that the entire report was based on bias. >> also complicating wray's life is the a.g. >> chris wray raised that bill barr does everything the president wants. they said, the inspector general's report now makes clear that the fbi launched an intrusive investigation of a
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u.s. presidential campaign on the thin nest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken. the horowitz report said, we also concluded that the fbi had an authorized purpose when it opened crossfire hurricane. >> the difference is he got out in front of it with the mueller report and there was nothing to back it up for several days. now this is already out there and he's trying to characterize it. you hope people actually read the primary source document instead of taking folks' word. >> this is the literal problem of our time. you could say that about the mueller report, you could say that about the ig report, you could say that about the entire investigation. people choose to see it through the lens how they want to see it, where they're being critical. >> we hope you trust most of what you hear here, but if you don't, check it out. you have the power in your hand. up next, the wars in the key congressional districts over you
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>> but that's one of the reasons you joumumped in, because you tk trump is winning. >> i think trump is getting stronger and he would just eat alive the candidates. because they don't have plans that i think are practical, that can be implemented. >> what do you make of that? >> i think he's playing with the democrats' worst fears, basically, and that is a decent play to make when those are on the table and are not actively resolved. you didn't hear people in the rest of the field saying please, michael bloomberg, come in and save us. he did that on his own. but he's saying you guys made a mistake here and the president is going to ride the wave. >> he said he's going to eat you alive. >> but from the progressive base, what if they didn't impeach him? then he would have a talking point saying, look, i did nothing wrong. they couldn't do anything to me. there are two side s of this coin, but you're absolutely
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right. this does play to their worst fears for sure. >> in the democratic debates, bloomberg is not in those. see you tomorrow on "inside politics." dana bash is next. she starts right now. have a good afternoon. i'm dana bash in for brianna keilar live from cnn's washington headquarters. underway right now, a major milestone on a path to an historic event. the house is one step closer to making donald j. trump the fourth president to go through impeachment, the third to be impeached since the constitution was adopted on september 17th, 1787, 232 years ago. after presenting their case for impeachment to the american people, house democrats boiled it all down to two articles of impeachment, abuse of power and obstruction of
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