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i'm john vause. two major stories on opposite sides of the atlantic. the first vote of the trump articles of impeachment delayed by republican stalling tactics. the house judiciary committee will resume in hours. i'm in london where election results are giving boris johnson's conservative parties one of the most dramatic victories in decades. that is where we're beginning this hour because if there ever was any doubt that majority british people favor brexit, this election has put it to rest. boris johnson, conservative, assured brexit will happen january 31st. the prime minister took a big gamble calling a snap election and it seems it's paid off. >> at this stage, it does look at those this one nation
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conservative government has been given a powerful new mandate. to get brexit done and not just to get brexit done but to unite this country and to make it forward and to focus on the priorities of the british people. >> now, that was the conservative party. the opposition labor party, a total different story. the thrashing it took at the polls will be studied and analyzed for years, and we'll be doing that in fact in the coming hours. leader jerry mccorbin says he plans to step aside in some point. he blamed brexit for labor's big loss. >> brexit has so polarized and divided debate in this country, it has overridden so much of a normal political debate. and i recognize that has
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contributed to the results that the labor party has received this evening all across this country. >> well, let's have a look at the results because we've got about 640 constituencies have been declared. we've got 10 or so to go. but look at that. a clear majority for the conservative party. 358 labour down 202. snp, strong night for snp as well, and this is something that we'll talk about in the hours ahead, what this means. will they be calling for an independence referendum? nicolas sterjen there. not a good night for dems either. let's get more from max foster. he is live this hour outside 10 downing street. max, a very clear win for boris johnson tonight. i know it's cliché, but champagne bottle, corks popping
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there? >> i think so but he's also going to be working on that speech. he made a short speech earlier on, didn't do interviews. he's inside currently preparing his victory speech. it was interesting earlier talking about one nation conservativism. this is the middle ground of conservative politics. he's not any longer behold ton the euro skeptics in his party. he can get bigger it looks like. all the local predictions suggest that. with that big majority he can push through his own agenda. he talked about education as well. of course ahoefd all of that, brexit comes first. he pitched that he's the man to get brexit done. that clearly resonated. and now brexit will be done. brexit's going ahead. the idea of a brexit referendum is going away. jeremy corbyn in a terrible position now on his way out. but also the whole labour movement having to reconsider
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what they're about. do they want to be as far left as jeremy corbyn took them or go back to the center ground made famous by tony blair. >> and max, hiss message throughout the campaign was clear, which was get brexit done. for now the challenge will be of course how does he fulfill that -- how quickly does he fulfill that promise, what kind of brexit are we going to get? and that i suspect we'll know in the coming months. >> well, maybe at the end of the january. and what sort of parliament could object to him when he campaigned on that. so, that is almost certainly going to go through. as you say, there's a bigger issue beyond that, the transition period the year after that. can it really be completely dusted within a year after january, the big trade agreement with europe. he's going to have a honeymoon period for a while. next year is going to be extremely extremely difficult
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for him. also worth noting he brought up there the success of the scottish nationalists in scotland. they always campaign on an independence referendum. they feel they have a mandate for that. boris johnson said he wouldn't offer one. there's a real dilemma there. how do those two parties come together and compromise going forward because the scottish nationalists absolutely dominate scotland right now. >> yeah, and i think that's something i would really like for us to discuss a bit later in the show because this could prove like you said, max, a real challenge for boris johnson. could this be the next -- prevent a constitutional crisis for him as we move on as we know that she wants to call for an independence referendum, something that she said time and time again. max foster outside 10 downing street, a very wet 10 downing street. thanks very much max. it's still the early hours of friday the 13th in the uk. it's 6 minutes past 6:00 in the
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morning. an unlucky day for britain's labour party. tabloids letting their views be known about the conservative majority. keeping the style of the season with the headline "rejoice! bors set for a thumping win." very different view showing picture of boris johnson with a headline "the nightmare before christmas" and "the guardian" says "labour in meltdown." major changes across various parties. anna stewart takes a look for us. >> as soon as the initial exit polanded, it was clear the party were heading for a significant victory. and i want to show you the map of the uk after the 2017 election because this shows you the seat that is the conservative party were after. the labour red wall that goes
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north through wales and into northeast england. take a look at 2017 and take a look at what happened in this election. many of those seats turning blue. these are seats that have voted for labour for generations, but they are also seats that voted for brexit. let's head to some of these seats right now. we've got dudley north. this was a seat here in the west mid lands and we'll bring you over the data that we got tonight, extraordinary result for a seat that voted to leave by 71% in 2016. and you can see that the margin was phenomenal. party winning by margin of 31%, increasing the vote in the labour heartland significantly. this is a seat that had been in the labour's hand since 1997. the labour party really suffering here. another significant result was in the east mid lands, another big brexit area, another area where the labour party got punished. their share of the vote
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decreasing by 16%. and the conservative party having a significant party. and that's despite the brexit party, brand-new party in this election also taking some of the pro-brexit vote. so, a real victory here for the conservative party. another story that we knew going into the night was that the snp, the scottish national party, was going to do very, very well. so, we can look at some of those seats. this was a win for the liberal democrats and not just a win for the snp from the liberal democrats but this took away joe swin son, the leader of the liberal democrat seat. this was one of the most significant moments of the election. and actually in scotland we saw significant results. you can see here how much of it was turning yellow throughout the night. this was a night of drama. this was a night where seats changed. this was a night where we had shock exits and significant victory. the conservatives best performance since margaret
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thatcher in 1987 giving them a mandate to deliver brexit. anna stewart from the cnn results center. >> thanks very much, anna. the moment we got at 10:00 local the exit poll, we saw the pound surging as a key exit poll predicted big conservative. sterling rose to $1.34. that's the highest level since may 2018. for weeks the pound has been rising on bet of mr. johnson's win. it gives currency and direction on what really they're trying to achieve when it comes to brexit. so, i'm sure the markets will be rejoicing as well when they're open about two hours, less than two hours from now. we'll keep on top of that and bring you reaction when stock
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markets open. international community is reacting. donald trump tweeted looking like a big win for boris in the uk. well, the eu was looking closely at the results. the president of the european council says they're ready to take the next steps. >> we're ready. we're ready for the next steps. we'll see if it's possible for the british parliament to accept the withdrawal agreement to take decision. and if it is the truth, we are ready for the next step. >> well, they're ready for the next steps. let's head to brussels where eu leaders are gathering for a summit. they will meet later today. and the results of the election is sure to prompt a swift election. melissa, i'm guessing a bit like the stock markets, what europe wanted was clarity. what has been the reaction to today's results?
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>> well, exactly that, isa, relief really that at last there is clarity. when you think about it, european partners have been for the last three and a half years really prisoners of a process that was not of their choosing and over which they had very little control. sure they could decide to speak as one. but beyond that they could just watch hapless partners where successive prime ministers tried to get their own deals through parliament. this time and thanks no doubt to boris johnson's very clear majority and the new parliamentary arithmetic, the expectation is that that withdrawal bill he had managed to negotiate with european partners just a few weeks ago would come before the commons next week, possibly next friday. the expectation is that given his new majority, he will be able to get that through. and then of course it is significant, isa, for what happens thereafter. the expectation is on 31st of
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january, the united kingdom leaves the eu. but that is just the beginning of what is likely to be a arduous process, behind that the one that is involved in trying to figure out what the future relationship between the united kingdom and the european june i don't know will be and specifically what kind of trade agreement they're going to have. just couple of hours european leaders will meet here no doubt with sense of relief mongs them to begin talking about just that, how the future of that process looks. >> yeah, and they'll have 11 months or so to hash out a deal on future agreements as you and i well know. this can take long. trade agreements, mcan go on fo years. good to see you. from uk politics to u.s. politics, america waited hours for a historic vote on articles of impeachment but it never came. we'll tell you why next. you are watching cnn. nationwide. up 5g while some 5g signals go only blocks,
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it seems 14 long hour of almost continual arguing and feigned outrage wasn't enough. just after 11:00 p.m., the democratic chairman of the committee adjourned and delayed the vote until friday morning. after that, the articles move to the full house for approval. the debate on thursday was the last public hearing in the impeachment process and the last chance for lawmakers both republican and democrat to grab attention on prime time television. they ranted, pounded the table, and traded insults raising what seems to have been years of pent up bitterness and anger. republicans continued with a weeks long effort to undermine the case for impeachment, accusing democrats of being motivate bid mind hatred. there was, however, one point of agreement. >> facts matter, and i hope that
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each and every one of us can agree on that simple point. >> yes, they all agreed facts do matter, but they could not agree on the conclusion drawn from the same set of facts. >> the facts again speak for themselves. there was no impeachable offense here, and that's why article i of the impeachment ended up falling flat on its face. >> joining us from los angeles, cnn senior political analyst ron brownstein. we have a lot to get to here. big picture, after two public hearings and hours of testimony, not one republican lawmaker can find anything questionable about the president's behavior despite officials within the administration testifying they were troubled, concerned, or alarmed. >> the contrast between the career foreign service professionals and the republicans in congress has
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grown more and more striking as the story has evolved. we saw several of the officials in president trump's own white house going to the lawyer at the national security council because they were so alarmed by what they heard on the call and some cases, what they experienced in other cases like the meetings with the ukrainians in other early. john bolton described the entire episode as a drug deal. now every republican in the house is basically saying they are okay with it or at least every republican on the intelligence and judiciary committees. one thing we know about president trump is he's a student of power and a student of weakness. i think he correctly interprets this episode as republicans being afraid to defy him on anything. the one thing we can be sure about is this won't be the last time that he will put them in that position of defending what previously might have been considered indefensible. >> after two days of this, the second day just seemed nastier
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and louder. but there was one republican congressman who seemed ready to call out the absurdity of it all. here he is. >> i have not heard a new point or an original thought from either side in the last three hours. the same talking points have been repeated over and over again ad nauseum by both sides. repeating a fact over and othve doesn't make it true and denying a fact over and over doesn't make it false. everybody knows this. everybody watching knows this. this hearing's been enough of an institutional embarrassment without putting it on an endless loop. >> he's right about the repetition by republicans. but that's the point, right? it seems to be working. you go to the polls, support for the impeachment is tapering off. >> first of all, it is that kind of moment where everything has been said and not everyone has said it. that was what he was illuded to. one of the goals of republicans
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has been to act in the process in a way that causes americans paying only a limit amtd of attention, that kind of second tier of voters not on twitter all day, not in front of the cable all day. this is just another partisan fight. this is not something unique. this is not a constitutional moment. this is just an extension of a daily conflict between the parties buchlt you're right, the support for impeachment has really plateaued very quickly. it's significantly higher than it was at any point during bill clinton's impeachment. we never got to beyond a third of the country. but it's following the pattern of the clinton impeachment where the lines were set early and they never moved much throughout the whole process. in that case about 2/3 of the country was opposing it. here we are close to 50/50. some polls are slightly more than opposition, some in the opposition. essentially a 50/50 split. that reflects the underlying
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country that we are living through in this deeply polarized and separated. just look at the composition of who was on those committees both intelligence and judiciary and look at the face of the democratic evolution versus the face of the republican coalition, the kind of voters they represent, where they represent. you see the two americas that are at this point snarling at each other in congress. >> there's some twisting and turning of facts and logic and, you know, republicans at some point sort of twisted in knots making bizarre arguments like this one. here we go. >> if democrats can't prove that the bidens are clean, then president trump can't be guilty of abusing power if he's asking a reasonable question. they cannot prove that the questions into the bidens are unreasonable. >> yeah, it's kind of mind boggling to follow that logic. and that is called points with the president. but the republicans not directly
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addressing the substance of the impeachment charges, is there a price to pay for the republicans? this is a party which is bleeding support among college educated mostly suburban voters and especially women. >> guilty until proven innocent in that formulation. >> yeah. >> i mean, it is unprecedents for the president. it is a measure of his whole coalition that his approval rating has not really changed during this entire episode, has not designed, not increased, stayed where it always has been, 44, 45%. but i think what has happened and the risk for republicans is what this is doing is it is hardening the negative perceptions of the majority of voter who is have consistently said that they disapprove of his performance in office. i know we talked about this a little bit before. if you look at polling, somewhere between 52 and 55% of americans consistently say they don't like the job he is doing. now among those disapprovers, you get numbers like 94% saying he considers himself above the
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law, 93% in another poll saying his goal in ukraine was to advance his own interest, not the national interest. so, while it's not shifting the overall balance, it is hardening a balance that is a challenge for republicans. can donald trump squeeze out an electoral college majority with the majority of the country voting against him? it's possible. it could happen. but he is walking a very narrow path and i do believe impeachment is making that path a little bit narrower for him. >> i think the point where a lot of people thought we would be at this point but it is still early days. ron, thank you very much for being with us. we appreciate it. >> thanks john. time for a short break. when we come back we'll head to london and speak to the man who ran the communications with boris johnson when he was mayor of london. what might the strategy be at number 10? we'll find out. look, it's just like when i tell people about saving with geico.
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here on the east coast, welcome back to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm john vause at the cnn center. >> good morning to you. i'm in london outside the houses of parliament. boris johnson's gamble to call a snap election in uk has paid off with his conservative party winning an absolute majority in parliament. not only will mr. johnson remain prime minister. but he has the votes to adopt the brexit agreement he worked out with the european union.
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that withdrawal is set for january 31st. here's how the election results are shaking out. look at the numbers there. 358. 642 constituency has been declared out of 650. conservatives, whopping win of 358, labour 203. a very good night for the snp, 48. not so good for the lib dems tonight, but clear incredible win and a majority for boris johnson, a clear mandate to get brexit done which has been his slogan throughout. but many questions will be asked today about the future of the brexit party and also snp, will they call for an independence referendum has we heard from nicolas sterjen throughout.
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in the last few minutes u.s. president donald trump has been congratulating boris johnson. congratulations to boris johnson on his great win. britain and the united states will now be free to strike a massive new trade deal after brexit. this deal has the potential to be far bigger and more lucrative than any deal that can be made with eu. i'm sorry. i seem to be losing my voice. cnn santos is at the conservative party headquarters. nina, quite a night for boris. >> absolutely, boris johnson has been in and out of the doors here at the headquarters. he's back in there now speaking to his team. we saw the chairman of the conservative party leave just about 15 minutes ago and broad smiles on their faces. this has been a very successful night here for some of these very instinctive politicians to borrow a word that is used to describe boris johnson's friend,
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donald trump, who you just quoted in that tweet from half an hour ago. the reality is this is probably the biggest electoral victory for the conservative party since margaret thatcher delivered her version of that back in 1987. but there are things to note of change. the conservative party from here on, because it's managed to abrate that northern red wall of seats up in the north of country, working class heart lands there, this mean that is the conservative party will be drawn from a different demographic. it'll have to change the way how it makes jobs policy. it'll have to think about a different type of party membership and electorate going forward. that appears to have given the conservative party extra zeal. and as you pointed out they're on collision course with the newly emboldened nicolas state of emergencien of the scottish national party that will aj state for a second referendum.
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remember that david cameron, the former conservative prime minister about ten years ago was the prime minister who did give scotland a chance to vote on that subject. so, you can bet that there are some things that this conservative government will now have to taekal over the next five years. but this is a stocking majority as boris johnson puts it to get brexit delivered as fast as possible. >> thanks very much, nina. we'll touch base with you throughout the hour. joining me now is communications director for boris johnson administration when he was mayor of london. thank you for being with us. give me your impression of what the night hassen be like. did you see this coming? >> yes, i think boris was fairly confident he was going to win. he didn't want to say it out loud. he didn't want to count his chickens before they hatched and all that kind of jazz. but he framed this election right from the start. he was the one who set the pace.
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he set the parameters and he stuck to it. he hasn't always struck to the script and he did it on this one and he made it a simple choice, oversimplified maybe. >> perhaps he's going to win and i think the majority of the people were expecting him to win but not by this amount. we're looking 360. >> it's astonishing. and it was an audacious attack even without this level of success. this is not going to soggy voters in the middle. this was a straight grab, hard score labor working class voters that have never contemplating voting conservative. and he's going to them as a publicly -- which in british terms is privately educated individual from the poshest school in the land who loves speaking latin and greek and looks exten trick. but clearly the working classes when they met him thought he was true to himself, he's a man they can relate to.
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they trusted him to deliver brexit and give them more police on the streets and better hospital. >> was brexit the deciding factor in the labour heart land oris was it the fact that corbin wasn't strong enough? that his message, he went too much to the left, his message wasn't clear on brexit? >> it was both. it was both in the end. i think the overwhelming psychological drive here was the enormous sense of frustration in the united kingdom that brexit has gone on and on and on. even people who don't want a brexit, will someone just put us out of our misery. and boris promised to end the nightmare. as you say, jeremy corbyn, a lot of labour people doubt whether he's fit to be prime minister, whether he can be trusted on security, economics, pushing us down towards a four-day,i worki week. whether that is a globalized world, it didn't really wash. and we have the proof. >> and now as we come in to the
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early hours of the morning here in london, all eyes will be in the houses of parliament and whether boris johnson getting brexit done, whether he can get brexit done in time, the schedule that he wants. >> he can certainly hit the next milestone. i think there is no doubt at all we'll be out, technically speaking we'll be divorced from europe on january 31st. he's got the deal. beyond that, there needs to be a trade deal with europe. that's going to be a lot more complicated. president trump in the states is raising the tantalizing prospect of an alternative to this close relationship with the close relationship with europe. >> which he always has. >> which he always has. now there will be arguments about chlorinated chickens and all that. >> do you think 11 months, do you think that's realistic? >> i need people on both sides. i know enough lawyers who tell me you can't do a trade deal in
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that amount of time. but i've heard so many people say boris couldn't get eu to reopen the deal, he did. he wouldn't get a deal done in four or five weeks, he did. he couldn't win an election in the middle of winter. he has. i've known him long enough to know he pushes the boundaries and breaks the rules and gets away it. never say never with him. >> marie mcginnis is the vice president of the parliament. i want to get your thoughts on what we have seen the last several hours here. clear win for boris johnson. what's the reaction there? >> well, absolutely, a very clear win for the british prime minister. and i suppose the morning after the night before we're more certain politically about the next steps in brexit because for the last few weeks during the campaign we've been suspending discussions around brexit but now that we know there's a clear majority in the house of the
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commons behind boris johnson it looks like we will have a divorce on the 31st of january. i don't see any impediment to that, but one never knows. certainly from our side and the european parliament has to ratify. so, we will wait until the house of commons does its work and the house of lords and then go through our own procedures. but it should be possible to complete this within the time frame. >> yeah, and you just heard my best, marie, we expect that to be smooth sailing giving the numbers that he has. looking further ahead though in terms of the relationship with europe and any trade deals or negotiations with europe, do you think it's realistic that 11 months it can be done? >> well, i'm going to say that depends because for the first time in a trade negotiation, we would have a country wanting to diverge from regulations that it's been with us on for the last number of decades. and therefore we don't know how much the prime minister will want to move away from our
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current standards, rules, and regulations. if he's willing to stay close on these issues, then perhaps we could have a rapid trade deal. i'm not so sure that's what's in his mind. and perhaps with this large majority, he may decide to pull further away. that might make it very difficult to complete a trade agreement by the end of 2020. and i suppose people this morning in the uk will be happy perhaps to see brexit done in january. that's only a little bit done. it's not completely finished and i suppose we're going to have to be a bit patient on the next stages. there is a ligamentness willing because we've been in this agony since the referendum in 2016. there are huge agenda points here including climate change and other political issues. if you could get brexit, if you like, running and get this divorce settled by the end of january and look to the future, i think with willingness on both sides, that is a possibility to get a deal done.
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but i don't think it's going to be easy. >> no. and this is something that i'm sure we'll see in the months ahead. and bear with me because there's music playing just behind me. i'm not sure -- i think that's some sort of celebration of people turning out here. but you said clarity, a sense of relief as well? >> yeah. i mean, it's a strange morning, i have to say. while i'm certainly relieved that there's political clarity and we can move onwards, privately and personally i'm glad to see colleagues from the uk working with me leaving. but i think the reality is now facing us. the uk is leaving in 2020. the divorce will happen in my view. and on the 31st of january, maybe before that. who knows? it depends on the time frame of the house of commons. we've yet to hear what the prime minister thinks. and there is no doubt that he went to the country with that slow goochb getting brexit done.
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and i imagine there were people on the side who decided to vote for the conservatives because of that awful uncertainty and the weariness and the worry that was carpeting the united kingdom and indeed all of the european union. this morning as we wake up and take stock, many people will be in pain in the labour party. interesting results from northern ireland. but for the conservative party, i'm sure they're in great moods this morning. >> at least they are here. i can tell you that much because the music is already playing and it's only 6:40 in the morning. good to see you. thank you very much. well, come ughing on the sh we'll head to the other side of the pond to talk u.s. politics, how donald trump and the house plan to proceed. it took over 100 years to perfect this
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the house committee will stand in recess until morning at 10:00 at which point i will move to divide the question so that each of us may have the opportunity to cast up or down votes on each of the articles of impeachment and let history be our judge. the committee is in recess. >> mr. chairman. mr. chairman. there is no consulting from the ranking member on your schedule for tomorrow on which you've just blown up schedules for everyone? you chose not to consult the ranking member on a schedule issue of this magnitude? so typical. this is the kangaroo court that b we're talking. >> democrats accused republicans of delaying tactics so the votes would happen in the middle of the night. judiciary approved the articles, they will move to a full house vote. that will be next week. so, i mean, nathan, in the big picture here does this delayed
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vote by the judiciary committee have any real impact apart from disrupting friday morning? >> no. i don't think it changes anyone's mind. i mean, outrage is what the minority party does. outrage is what the republicans have specialized in. and for the ranking member, congressman collins, to -- and his colleagues -- to grag out the process over 14 hours tonight and then be shocked that things are delayed are not going their way is just a bit disingenuous at best. this is a prime example of why being in the minority -- why elections matter and why being in the minority in the house is important because you're unimportant being in the minority in the house. >> no fun being in the minority anywhere, i guess. nancy pelosi says she will not be whipping democrats. it's going to be left up to democrats to decide this by themselves. they will look at the facts and make their own decision. there could be bipartisan
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support but opposing the articles of impeachment. is that a big problem for the democrats? >> we'll have to see. i expect the president to be impeached by the house. there might be a handful of democrats who don't support the articles of impeachment on the floor. but by and large, i would expect democrats to pass it, even some democrats who represent competitive districts. i'm not sure anything has come up from within the inquiry that would have changed some of these democrats' minds and some of these vulnerable democrats don't have credible republican challengers back home that are holding their feet to the fire. >> from the house, the impeachment will move to the senate. that's where mitch mcconnell calls the shots. he's confident the president will not be remove frd office. listen to him here. >> the president's counsel may or may not decide they want to have witnesses. the case is so darn weak coming over from the house. we know how it's going to end. there's no chance the president's going to be removed from office. >> mcconnell saying he's going
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to take his marching orders if you like from the president's lawyers. is that a problem? i know it's not a criminal trial or civil trial, it's a but this white house piece is something we haven't seen. up to this point, the white house has decided not to comply with the judiciary committee or the investigations in the inquiry on the house side, so even if the white house counsel shows up or -- then that would be a big unknown because presumably the white house counsel would be even closer to doing what the president wants. i mean, the leader is in communication with the white house, but maybe we would get even more of a voice from the white house. but there's one thing about this, you know, the idea that house republicans want vice president biden or hunter biden called as a witness. we have to remember that that would mean that some republican senators who have served with vice president biden in the senate, you're asking them to call their friend and former colleague or his son, you know,
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to be on trial, and that's just not going to happen. >> especially considering that there is absolutely nothing to do with the bidens in all of this. we've been clear over and over again. nathan, good to see you. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. we'll take a short break. when we come back, high politics and high drama. some of the highlights of a big night for boris johnson as his conservative party wins big in the uk general election.
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defeat for labor. though a very different story. its leader jeremy corbyn said he will not take his party into the next general election, but he's staying on for now. in the last few minutes as well we've heard the liberal democrat leader is stepping down. she asked -- she wanted to revoke article l and cancel brexit. so things moving very quickly. we'll have much more on jo swinson and how the landscape is changing here in the uk for british politics. i'm isa suarez. thank you very much for joining us. we'll be right back. most people think of verizon as a reliable phone company. but to businesses, we're a reliable partner. we keep companies ready for what's next.
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