bribery or other high crimes and misdeme misdemeanors. americans have a unique opportunity to reflect on the principles of which this country was founded. i'll keep this document very close as we face another historic week ahead. erin burnett outfront starts right now. next, on the brink, donald trump facing his near certain impeachment. it's now a matter of days. this as rudy giuliani shows up at the white house again. why? democrats get in line. several more dems who are on the fence say they are voting yes on impeachment tonight. the white house doubling down on trumps attacks on a 16-year-old girl. wait until you hear the defense tonight. let's go out front. good evening. the brink of impeachment. the full house of representatives is days away from formally impeaching president trump. that vote will make trump only the third president in american

history to be impeached. it comes after this morning's historic vote by the judiciary committee in the house to approve both articles of impeachment against the president. trump is defiant tonight. >> there was nothing done wrong pop to use the power of impeachment on this nonsense is an embarrassment to this country. >> now, the president did do something wrong. whether it is impeachable are not is the conversation they should be having but many republicans are far from the conversation. they are still denying basic facts. >> why is it ever okay for an american president to ask foreign powers to viinvestigate political rival? >> he didn't do that. >> he did do that. >> he did not do that. >> i mean it is like an alternate universe. trump did ask for a favor on that july phone call. he did talk about joe biden and

less those words in black and white confuse anyone like debby, he laid it out. he said i meant what i said. he wanted zelensky to investigate a political rival. >> what did you hope zelensky would do? >> start major investigation into the bidens. it's a very simple answer. they should invest gats t gatti bidens. >> okay. there's that. tonight there's this. trump still pursuing that quest. rudy giuliani visiting the white house. his visit coming after the wall street journal reporting the president called rudy giuliani as soon as his plane landed in new york last weekend from kiev where he was pushing for ukrainian help against biden. as the plane was still taxiing down the runway, the president asked rudy giuliani, what did

you get? caitlin collins is out front tonight. how is the president reacting to this historic vote today? >> reporter: when we saw the president he was defiant opinion also dismissive of these articles of impeachment saying that democrats are wasting impeachment on this. he doesn't think his actions warrant it. a case he's been making but he's been saying democrats are going to regret this saying it will come back to bite them when a democrat is in office and republicans control the house. trying to warn them of that dismissing it but saying it benefits him politically. talking about his poll numbers being up which if you look at the poll numbers you see that's not the case but what he is saying publicly is different than what we're hearing privately is he's still very resentful of all of this. even though he's telling them, he does not want to be impeached. he doesn't want to be in that club with other president who is have faced a similar fate. that is where you see rudy giuliani come in.

even though white house officials have really tried to distance themselves from rudy giuliani often saying they do not know what he is up to. you saw him walking in the door of the west wing after the trip to ukraine unphased by the fact that federal prosecutors are probing his business dealings and a lot has to do with the president who wants to be vinds indica -- vindicating. that's really where they come to a cross roads where officials don't want anything to do with rudy giuliani yet the president has him coming here days after the trip to ukraine. >> thank you very much. i want to go to democratic congresswoman lloyd dogget. you'll have a chance to vote on those articles on wednesday as they go before the entire house. how will you vote, sir? >> i will certainly support the articles. i believe they will be approved by an overwhelming majority and on wednesday donald trump will be impeached. >> we do know that two of your

democratic colleagues plan to vote no on impeachment impeachme. chances are that won't change the outcome of the vote. do you understand how they came to that conclusion or why they will vote against these articles based on the evidence you've seen or are you sort of awe struck by their choice? >> i'm not surprised because they voted against the process, the rules that were set to give republicans and the president a full opportunity to present a defense that they failed to do. there's been no disagreement by the fact witnesses. this president confessed to what he did on national television. he is out to seek political assistance from ukraine, china, russia, anyone else who will provide it. if we're to preserve our democracy, we need to act to impeach him and certainly if mitch mcconnell continues to take his cues from the white

house and there's any victory for the president in senate, he won't be able to claim true vin vin vindication from a trial he helped to rig. >> mitch mcconnell says he's in total coordination with the white house counsel. he was seen meeting yesterday with the white house counsel. do you have any problem with that just on its face? is that oekay they are meeting? >> he's been in total coordination all year in refusing to let the senate debatefully legislation of any significance approved from the house whether it was election security, equal pay, our dreamers, protecting our democracy generally, gun safety. all of these things he's held in cue for the white house. now to let the white house direct the terms of the trial destroys the function of the separation of powers that our founders envisioned.

all of this is a question of whether america has degeneral ra -- degenerjegenerated to we hae strong man rule or our democracy is preserved and the wisdom of our founders is preserved in having accountability. >> have you decided you want to have as an impeachment manager. do you support mr. schiff or another person? >> well, i think adam schiff has done an amazing job in his coordination of the committee as has jerry nadler. that's why the two of them are the subject of so much attack from the president. the only people he attacks more than adam schiff and jerry nadler and nancy pelosi are those republicans who choose to defua ua deviate from them the slightest calling them human scum, maiam e

amazingly enough. one can understand why republicans are so fearful of him and unwilling to do what think know the facts demonstrate that this president has corrupted his office, has abused his power and totally ignored the congress in its responsibilitys. >> congressman, your committee has been trying to fwe inin ini president's tax returns. barring some major development we know how this trial will end in the senate. the tax returns could become hugely important. you're trying to get them from the irs. the treasury department and others are been trying to get them be the supreme court is taking up their case which means their isssubpoenas for tax retu won't be enforced because they have to look at this case. the impeachment proceedings will fully play out and the subpoenas will not be enforced. is this a big win for the

president president? >> no, it's not. i can understand why our highest court would want to consider this very important question. three district courts -- three appellate courts have ruled against president trump. he actually maintained that as president, he could not only not be brought into court but he couldn't be investigated, he couldn't be charged with a crime. he was basically immune to any type of prosecution. the other courts have ruled on the president's own attempt to block his accounting firm from disclosing the same type of information that presidents have disclosed in the past. it's understandable that supreme court would want to rule on whether we do have only one man rule here or we have the ability of the congress to hold the president accountable. that's a really important issue. >> they are taking up the request as he requested but you

don't see that as a win for him, is the bottom line? >> no. i would prefer they simply let these three court decisions against the president stand but i can understand why they would want to consider it and frankly i'm very hopeful that they will follow the law. they won't be like the republicans in the house who couldn't follow the facts. they will follow the law. they will do what courts in challenges like this before in the nixon case and clinton case. they have ruled regardless of who appointed them to office to follow our constitution and realize how really critical this is not just about president trump but the future of democracy in our country which has never been more in prkeril. >> thank you. next trump's calls with world leaders are more private. the white house tightly controlling the people who are supposed to be on those calls,

now cutting them off. top republican predicts they will win back the house in 2020. why? impeachment. mitch mcconnell says he's working closely with the white house on the impeachment trial. is this a problem? can my side be firm?

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to investigate the bidens. sources are saying the transcripts of those calls are being shared with a far smaller group. one white house official summing it up, nobody is allowed on the calls. the barn door officially closed after the horse escaped. out front now former adviser to four presidents. some people might say maybe they were too many calls. there's rift raft on these calls. the president of the united states calls a leader of another country whether it's boris johnson or mr. zelensky. privacy is defined differently when you're the president. who is usually on these calls as a matter of american protocol? >> it's going to depend on what the nature of the call is. if there's a covert operation

you want to alert a leader to that would be different than some diplomatic talk. every conversation should be in the national interest. if it's in the national interest, rather than the president's interest, then you would want more people on for the following reasons. one is the national security staff and the national security council serves as the connective tissue for what was agreed upon. secondly, you want to have a memorialization of what happened so you want people on the call who are not involved in theasse leaders action was. what was agreed to so there can be after actions or action plan for the agencies. that is assuming the call is in the national interest. we can make a safe asujs that many of these calls are not. >> this is the other point. these are calls with world

leaders. calls that and explain that trump's predecessors would have experts on the country's being called on the phone or the issues that were being discussed. they would all be listening in. the reporting is it's a handful of aides who are allowed on and only people appointed by president trump himself. not a career expert on fill in the blank country who knows the most of anyone. not that person but the person trump appointed. >> well, i think this is really alarming because what you're doing is taking away the expertise that is involved with these individual countries. the national security adviser doesn't know everything about say french politics and what's going on there. the second part is in these calls, you can keep the president from making a big mistake, perhaps when the call

with erdogen he might not have given away as much as he did. you can move policy by being this. many times the national security person wrote a note and gave it to the president. the president would read it and adjust and it would be a better call. >> there were people on the zelensk y zelensky call who are career staffers before the president like alexander vindman. a guy who spoke the language, lit ral literally and that allowed him to say this during the impeachment hearings. >> i was concerned by the call. what i heard was inappropriate. i reported my concerns to mr. i

eis eisenburg. i couldn't believe what i was hearing. it was probably an element of shock. >> so david then you have vindman reports this to the lawyers. a white house official is calling trump's new policy, he was sort of joking but called it the vindman rule. you'll now have a person like this who knows the most not allowed to be on the call because the president doesn't want him to know. >> there are two things here. you strip yourself of the expertise that the president needs to have an informered c i with a foreign leader. it's important the president pick up on what the nuances are especially with a foreign leader. if you don't know the context, you don't know the nuances. there's a second element. it's not just what goes into the president before the call, it's

what happens as a result of the call and that is these transcripts are sent out to a sufficient number of people who have to execute the policy and diplomats talking to the other side. now as you take them, they don't have access to the transcripts, the people who are executing the policy at the mid levels, they will be blind where as the country that the president has been talking to will share with everybody who needs to any. that leaves a lot of our professionals in the foreign service unable to do their job. it blinds them to the realities and frankly every experience i've had is when you begin to restrict the number of people around the president to a very tight circle, mostly political people and they tend to rely on the politics, not the sort of facts and deep depth, understanding of the history and the context of the subjects they're dealing with. that's how we get into wars. we stumble into them. >> people don't realize that.

that's how they started. you have this, you have transcripts not going to as many people. people being cut off the calls. the president says this. >> our very transparent. >> i love transparency. >> there's never been a president so transparent. >> i've been >> theres has never been, ever before an administration that has been so open and transparent. >> juliette, that's a farce. it's not true. you can take the -- what? the 71 documents they refuse to provide to congress which they requested in the impeachment hearings and stephanie grisham, she's been in her job for fine months and hasn't held a single press conference. this is transparency? >> i felt like after that clip, say it again, say it again,

maybe i'll believe you. just given everything that joe, david and i have said, we have to believe that this is actually what they wanted, right? of course, they don't want transparency. of course, they don't want to effectuate approximately see. of cour and effectuate policy. if not to effectuate the national security policy of this country. they're about something different. donald trump has for three-plus years now turned our national security and foreign policy into both a transactional and personal, right? transactional about him and about potentially his financial dealings and personal, right? do you like me or do you not like me? who care, right? you're running the united states and the government. liking or not liking doesn't matter. he wants this because the nature of those calls are not serving the national interest. >> all right. all of you, stay with me. liking or not liking him on very deep psychological level is what motivates this president. democrats are getting in line.

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democrats getting in line, freshman democrat max rose representing a district president trump won by ten points.

tonight announcing his support for impeachment. this comes as three other moderate democrats from swing districts say they will vote to impeach president trump. manu raju is out front on capitol hill and manu, these swing district democrats have been targeted by republicans and there have been talk about them defecting and now you're starting to see this. what does it tell you about how many democrats will vote to impeach this week? >> the president carried in 2016, they probably will ultimately vote to impeach the president probably even on both counts of abuse of power and obstruction of congress. remember, there are 31 democrats who come from the districts that president trump carried in 2016. a number of them are signaling that they are still making their decision and they plan to go home and listen to their constituents and see what the reaction is. over the weekend, people like melissa of michigan and anthony brandisy of new york, all have told me they are still weighing this decision and they may make

a decision as they come into the weekend or monday and tuesday as they get to the critical wednesday vote. the expectation is that they will vote to impeach the president and a lot of the reason yes is because they did vote initially to formalize the inquiry and it got behind this because of their national security concerns about the way the president handled relations with ukraine. ultimately the expectation is you have these democrats who provide the critical votes to get the democrats over the top and get that majority that is necessary to impeach this president and of course, they will have to deal with any backlash, they have that and i can tell you, erin, they're hearing a lot from both sides and their phones are ringing off the hooks and constituents are making it clear, and they'll get backlash no matter what they choose that's why they believe at the end of the day they'll side with the rest of their party and vote to impeach the president. >> manu, thank you very much.

>> thank you. everyone is back with me. is this a sign that democrat, even vulnerable ones are getting in line and we don't know the full count and there could be more defections and you have people saying i am with the democrats, not him. >> it tells you a lot about the politics and manu had it exactly right that a lot of democrats who were the last ones to come out to open the impeachment inquiry made their decision based on national security and the national security concerns. so it is very difficult now after hearing all of this testimony which exacerbates the national security questions for them to say, no, i no longer have those concerns. i give the white house credit for spinning a good story about how bad this is for democrats. these democrats know what's good for them. i think they know what's good for the country. i think the politics and the risk is way overblown to them and i think you will see the

vast majority. there will be a handful who will vote not to impeach for reasons they may believe the case wasn't made and some because they believe in their district it's not what their constituents want, but i don't think the political risk is very high for these democrats after this case has been made. >> so, david, look. nancy pelosi has the votes and that's not the question, and she doesn't even need to whip it. how many defectors can she afford? right now it's two and it's the same two who didn't vote for moving ahead with an impeachment inquiry so they're as expected, okay? can she afford politically more? >> yes. i think they can afford to lose up to five, six, seven. i think if they got into double digits it would be a problem for them politically, but let me just say a lot of these folks, this story is not just about the politics. it's also about the character of some of of these new members of congress especially max rose which you just report side going to vote with the democrats for

impeachment. he's doing this not just for the politics. the politics are awful and he's in a hard trump district and it was a hard race for him to get there and coming after the iraq and afghan wars, they got elected to this new class. they're about putting principle first. that's the reason they went there. they're not scared of this. they've faced much tougher situations back in iraq and afghanistan. >> juliette, we know the prospect of impeachment weighs heavily on the president, right? he has said that before when people say look at bill clinton. he had this great economy and trump back then said who cares about the economy? his legacy was destroyed, right, by being impeached and here is trump touting his economic credentials while he's being impeached. yesterday he tweets the republican party is more united than at any time in its history by far. if you measure the number of votes that will be on the president's side it would appear he is right, certainly versus

say nixon, but is that really true do you believe, at its core? >> i need to sort of -- this is a hard issue because we do know that they're sort of walking into a loss, and so i do think that one way to look at this is through as david was saying the lens of national security and the future of this country looking at this from the perspective of 20, 30, 40 years from now and that's what a lot of these congressmen and women are doing and in this moment i could be worried about the vote or cable news and be called out by trump and if i look forward there are two key constituencies that i'm worried about fundamentally and one is the functioning of our government to actually protect itself which donald trump has made clear is not his priority and the other is the outside world looking in. i think that this house vote for the outside world also has meaning because it shows that at least the house is trying to serve as a deterrent against donald trump utilizing foreign

interference in 2020. so if you look at it from the deterrence perspective, this does have meaning and this will be part of donald trump's legacy regardless of what actualliness in 2020. >> we'll see if there are any republicans who say they're willing to lose their seats to catch that vote as they were during nixon. thank you all very much. and next mitch mcconnell to recuse himself from the impeachment trial. he's not going to do it and someone who knows one of the president's closest and most powerful advisers answers this question -- >> do you think stephen miller is a white nationalist? >> a white supremacist, i would say. ♪

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tonight, democrats objecting to this statement from senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. >> i'm going to coordinate with the president trump's lawyers so there won't be any difference between us on how to do this. >> why is mcconnell strategizing with the white house and taking on the role of a jurist and trump's impeachment trial at the same time? out front now tim nafthali which senate majority lead are has been reading and brenda wineapple and "impeachment" and he has said by republican senator jon corn in. tim, putting aside the obvious

joke that perhaps he's not read your whole book -- let's cut to it. so the president's counsel goes to capitol hill to meet with the person who is going to be running the trial which is what it will be in the senate, right? impeach in the house and you acquit or remove in the senate. they're doing these meetings privately. they say there's no difference between them. is that a problem? >> it's a huge problem. it's an honor when someone who has such an important role to play in an impeachment reads your being boo, but one of the takeaways, certainly from the chapter that peter baker wrote was how important it was for the senate to have bipartisan support for the terms of the trial and then majority leader trent lott worked with then-minority leader tom daschle, the democrat of the party for then 100 senators would support the trial. >> it shouldn't be pat

cipollone. >> the decision from the get go. here's something to keep in mind. the united states was very partisan in 1998. we can discuss whether we're more partisan or not now and it was a partisan environment in '98 and nevertheless, trent lott, the republican understood that the country needed an agreement that democrats could sign on to which included ultimately how many witnesses there would be and whether they would be live witnesses or not and as a result, 100 senators supported the outcome. by saying what he did today, leader mcconnell is basically sending a signal, i don't want to talk to schumer. >> and of course, and that's crucial and it's going to be very hard for chuck schumer to say we're on the same page. >> mcconnell says president clinton coordinated and it's the same argument he makes and the democratic leader at the time and his staff did communicate

with the white house and there's truth in what mcconnell is saying and daschle, i'm sorry -- daschle did not speak to president clinton himself and he was mad that clinton had lied to his face about monica lewinsky and there was a personal reason for that as opposed to -- >> right. >> so is this really different this time? >> well, not entirely because in 1868 when the country was very partisan as well because there had just been a civil war, you have to remember that then the presiding judge was the chief justice of the supreme court, a man named salman chase, and he was seen talking with andrew johnson, and in fact, andrew johnson and his daughters went to a party at his house and solomon chase said i'm just showing respect for his, johnson's, stand during the war which, you know, made a lot of people very, very uncomfortable. >> i can imagine how that would go. >> but you know, it's interesting when you just played

the mcconnell bit. it almost sounded to me as if mcconnell is anxious about separating himself from the president, not so much from the democrats. in other words, you won't see any daylight between me and the president, never mind the democrats so he doesn't want to start a procedure that trump is going to dislike. >> tim, i understand your concern. when i'm thinking about this intellectually, here's the question i have today. you have mcconnell doing his thing and you have the senators that it's pretty clear. we know where they stand, okay? a lot of them have said i'm still thinking about it and people like mitt romney. he's expressed extreme anger and frustration with what the president did and wants to keep an open mind, he says and here are some of the other people who will be on the jury in the senate and here's what they've said about impeachment. >> it is time for impeachment now. >> i think the house should pass the articles of impeachment. >> i've been calling for the

impeachment of this president for a long time. ? i've made it very clear that this is impeachable conduct. >> this is wrong. the president of the united states of america should not use taxpayer dollars to hold hostage to benefit his own personal -- >> i'm not trying to do a gotcha. >> i'm really trying to understand. >> let's talk about practical politics. >> yeah. there were partisan democrats in 1974. there were partisan republicans in 1998. the issue here is not about the fact that there are partisans and people running for the oval office. >> yeah. >> it's weather in this country we can have a discussion that might change the few open minds between the partisans. one of the beauties of the 1974 impeachment process and one reason why it didn't create more sadness in this country because this is a traumatic process was that the climate was created

where a group of southern democrats because the democrat his a problem with their caucus went through the data and then decided that, no, we're going to vote -- >> do you, brenda have an issue? those were the five senators running. >> they're running for office. >> that's not impartial. >> no, and they could say, for example, these seem to be impeachable offenses and we want to hear what is going to appear in the senate and what the trial would be, but the fact of the matter is again, it's a presidential election year when clinton was impeached it wasn't and when johnson was, and one of the jurors and the man in the senate stood in line for the presidency if johnson was removed. so it's very hard to separate out personal, political and principle. >> as you both made clear, it is a very small group of people who will make all the difference and most people are in their

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white nationalist? >> a white supremacist, i would say, because i believe his ideology is domination and control over people of color. >> stephen miller is an aide to donald trump. he did not respond to our request for comment. a white house spokesperson has said that miller is not a racist and is being attacked because he's jewish. mchugh says that's laughable. she says on his rise to the white house while working for senator jeff sessions -- >> are you ready to send donald j. trump to the white house? >> and later on trump's campaign, miller was in constant contact with her, pushing stories that fit an anti-immigration narrative, stories she wrote for breitbart without question. >> were you a white nationalist. >> i think i would call myself that. white nationalist, white supremacist, that's fine. >> that's what you were. >> yes, but that part is dead. >> do you think this is political to let his star rise because he could manipulate you or do you think he is a white supremacist? >> i believe he wanted access to

power because he was a white supremacist and wanted to impose his policies. those e-mail, you can read his own words. >> mchugh says these are some of his own words in e-mail. she saved 900 or so exchanges between miller and breitbart staffers from 2015 to 2016. in 2015, not long after a white supremacist slaughtered nine black americans praying inside their charleston church, mchugh says miller called and e-mailed not with sympathy for the victim, but instead a focus on changing the narrative to outrage over the removal of confederate statues and retailers removing confederate merchandise. have you thought about going to amazon and finding the commey flag and doing a story on that? >> yes. definitely, she replies. this is the tore mchustory mchu. >> did he ever say he was sorry that nine african-americans were slaughtered while praying at church? >> never. it never occurred to him, it

seemed. >> immigration was his favorite subject. in 2015 he also sent mchugh, a headline. a link to the conspiracy website, inif foewars. we are under attack. stop >> reporter: in another e-mail exchange miller suggests coverage of the pope. someone should point out the parallels. >> vile, vile, disgusting racist novel. >> reporter: it's a book beloved by white supremacists. a breitbart editor published the con tent miller suggested. just before miller heads to work he tells what he saw as the danger of allowing hurricane

victims coming to the u.s. they will all get pts. that will all get protection status. that needs to be the story and sends an article on the dangers of pts. >> did he want you to parrot a white nationalist website? >> yes, he did. it was understood that miller had editorial control over the political section of breitbart news. >> reporter: the u.s. ended tps status for several countries. she's ashamed of her role in all of this. she was fired by breitbart for an islamaphobic tweet including for being a liar. >> you said another crusade would do a lot of good. let's turn mecca into a strip mall. >> that's a quote from miller. that's a paraphrase of a consideration we had. >> this is the tweet.

there would be no deadly terror attack in the uk if muslims did not live there. did you believe all these hateful, racist things that you were putting out there on your twitter feed? >> i did. >> why should people believe you're sincere? >> because i believe in publicly confessing your sins and i also believe working very hard to expose these networks that i was a part of and show how dangerous they are, how evil they are and how many people they hurt. >> she says stephen miller should do the same and resign. so far there's no indication that stephen miller is going to resign and even though the white house didn't talk about this particular story, they have supported him. erin. >> incredible story. thank you. next, michelle obama taking sides, siding with teen activist who has been attacked by president trump this week. ok everyone! our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition...

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