good evening from washington. the speaker of the house is also exercised the power in such a way it could change everything about what comes next. or as tim put it, wow. nancy pelosi earned that wow after ushering donald trump into the history books. >> on this vote, the yays are 230. the nays are 197. present is one. article one is adopted. on this vote, the yays are 229. the nays are 198.

present is one. article two is adopted. >> with that, donald trump became along with andrew johnson and bill clinton, only the third president ever to face trial and possible removal from office in the senate. members almost entirely along party lines, adopting two articles of impeachment. one that he abused the power of his office by allegedly seeking or extorting ukraine's help to get resxlektd two, obstructing the inquiry into it. obstruction of congress. it was after her gavel came down that speaker pelosi said something that potentially turned everything upside down. now with the latest on that. the statement by speaker pelosi, explain what happened. >> yes. >> so there a lot of open questions about what would happen. we didn't expect to have answers until early next year but one we didn't expect to have any questions at all was whether or not the senate would actually get the articles of impeachment from the house. then the speaker.

this. >> we have legislation approved by the rules committee that will enable us to decide how we will send over the articles of impeachment. we cannot name managers until we see what the process is on the senate side, and i would hope that will be soon, as we did with their legislation, 660, to describe what that process would be. so far, we haven't seen anything that looks fair to us. so hopefully it will be fair and when we see what that is, we'll send that. >> let me explain to the best of my, to the extent that i can, what is going on here. first and foremost, she has every right to do what she's doing right now. to say she's going to held to articles of impeachment until she decides to send them over. until they appoint managers to actually bring those articles of impeachment over to the senate, nothing can be transmitted. so that's very much in play. but there are a couple other issues that are really important to focus on.

first the broader context. democrats have been outraged over the course of the last week of the comments of mitch mcconnell. that he says he's not an impartial juror. he's working the white house counsel's office hand in glove. and they want to underscore the fact that they don't believe what mcconnell has put on the table up to this point will lead to a fair trial. look, anderson, democrats, they know that the united states senate is not on track to remove president trump from office based on these articles of impeachment. they will likely acquit him. they want the answer about whether or not the trial will be fair. the speaker believes she has leverage for future negotiations in how it will work and democrats can now hammer home that they don't believe mcconnell will lead a fair process. at least for the next couple of days or perhaps even longer. >> what are they saying about this? do they think that the speaker has much leverage? >> first and foremost, they were

stunned. no republican had any idea this was about to happen. there have been some rumors that this might be something that could come to the forefront but nobody really believed it. but the second idea is one that most republicans i'm talking to are chuckling about. that mcconnell would give up any lenk based on what's happening. i have one republican senator text me shortly after the press conference. if they think this gives democrats leverage in the senate, she hasn't been paying close attention to how mcconnell operates the last few decades. no doubt in anybody's mind, he isn't going to move off his position that he doesn't believe they should be coming forward. that the current or former officials should testify, at least not in the early stage of the process. however, i think serve wondering what is going to happen given how we ended up tonight. >> thank you. >> along with our political and

legal team, tim, let's start off with you. i mean, it is historic, what happened today and then fascinating, what speaker pelosi. . >> we've had a few weeks to process all of this. the fact that there was likely going to be an impeachment is not a surprise. it is a very sober moment. one of the elements of this story that i was not thinking closely about was that this is the first time in our history that we've had an impeachment when the two houses of congress are not controlled by the same party. and that is what makes what happened tonight so interesting. speaker pelosi has decided to held to articles of impeachment. that was never an issue before because before, the same party controlled both houses. so it was a procedural matter. it is now a political matter. this is the first time in our history that one of the houses has decided to test whether it has any leverage.

and i don't know if there is leverage because as far as i'm concerned, mitch mcconnell has every reason to play chicken perhaps speaker pelosi believes president trump is so eager for a trial that that is some leverage that she can take advantage of. i don't know. it is about to be played out. we are witnessing something that has never happened before in our history. so today we saw something rare. the impeachment of a president. it happened only three times in our history. 44 individuals have been present. only three have been impeached. tonight we saw something unprecedented. >> david gergen, from a political standpoint, what did you make of today? and historic as well. >> wow is right. i don't think any of us saw this coming. it's important to understand in the last days, there are a number of people who have been making the argument that they don't need to be impartial in a trial. they've already made up their minds. lindsey graham and others. under senate rules, you're supposed to be impartial.

take an oath of impartiality. so they feel, the democrats feel, you're already in violation. along comes larry from harvard law school who writes an article that has gotten a lot of private attention in washington, suggesting you can do something like this. when it appears the trial is going to be partial. and this gives you leverage to negotiate. now, i think it is tough. nancy pelosi has had a remarkable record so far this year. the last two years working with donald trump. and she's outsmarted them on many occasions and is well regarded within democratic circles. but for weeks, the democrats have been arguing, let's get this over with. let's go, let's go. now they're going to hold it up for some indefinite period of time. it does seem there is a lot of pressure. ability. >> do you think it's possible the democrats would decide not to forward it at all to the senate? so essentially, history has been written today. the president has been

impeached. regardless of what the senate then later on decides to do. >> that's right. i think that speaker pelosi has the option to withhold it. i do think that's an option. this is only the third time in history that a president has been impeached and there isn't actually a set way that this has to proceed. so i think she has some flexibility. both she and mcconnell are hard ball politicians. so i think we'll see a flash of titans in terms of the politics of this play out. but as far as today, i really think that today overall was a win for the constitution. because what we saw is that in terms of the process that the founding fathers laid out, they laid out a way to deal with a president who abuses the power of his office. and whether or not this goes to the senate, or whether or not the senate, it seems, even if it

did, it would be unlikely that the senate would remove him, it is now in the history books that donald trump was impeached. that the congress, the house of representatives, had enough votes to say that his actions were an abuse of his office. and this is a process that has been since the founding of the country. and we really just saw it actually play out today. and i think it is worth pausing and acknowledging how remarkable that is for our democracy. >> yeah. i couldn't agree more. in terms of what pelosi will do, i don't know enough about the procedures and how it works. it just strikes me, if mcconnell wanted to, he could say leave him there. we won't do a trial and we'll just pass a resolution. we'll say that he's innocent, right?

so what donald trump wants, he wants to be able to say, i was acquitted. i was acquitted by the senate. so mcconnell probably can find another way to do that. and democrats have wanted to have a trial. so my expectation is that she'll probably end up sending them over. >> paul? >> only two in history and i've been through one of them and in both, there were witnesses. we've never had a trial of a president without witnesses. so senator schumer made the first move. we want four. there were four in the clinton case. and there were four important ones. these are people who would know first has not. did the president illegally or improperly stop this aid for political reasons? how far can mcconnell go to keep them from testifying? i know mr. trump has gone all

the way to the wall. mcconnell says i'm here for the president. i'm going to defend the president and i'm sure he will. i'll bet you his higher priority is to defend his republican senators up for re-election. senator collins in maine. senator gardner in colorado. senator tillis, mcsally in arizona. there are four. and vote letters come to them and say, wait a minute. don't you think there ought to be a couple of witnesses who know firsthand whether the president committed bribery? this will be a great clash. she knows what she's doing here. >> mike shields? >> i think it is a mistake to take on mitch mcconnell a procedural thing. i think his team is laughing at the idea that this would happen. i think he'll confirm like 20 judges a week while this is waiting and stare her back. that's what mitch does. in terms of an impartial trial, nancy pelosi has set something up. if she sends it over, she says i

think it's fair. i won't send it unless it's fair. if she does, then she thinks it's fair. he should just drew a line in the sand that she may not want to cross herself. and chuck schumer has. i'm impartial. no one in the country believes any of the democrats are impartial and this is what is wrong politics and wrong with washington, d.c. and why this is a joke. this is now extremely, a solemn day. the constitution won. and we're right back into political games. we're into talking points and messaging about witnesses that weren't even a part of the house trial in the first place. >> because the president backed them. >> and now we're back to politics. that's where the trump people want it to be. >> so let me ask you. what if mitch mcconnell comes back and says you've got a week. if you don't send it here within a week, we're done. we've got other things to do for the country. is that good politics for either one? is it in fact better politics? >> for the democrats, trump has the permanent stain of being impeached and the democrats have

maximum leverage in court. there is an ongoing impeachment. at some point the courts will have to rule. they can now preface, why don't they go to the courts? senator santorum was saying, go to the courts. not a bad point. now she can go to the courts without delaying impeachment. the best of both worlds. >> coming up next, the president's reaction. his attack on a grieving widow and her dead husband. the longest serving member of congress. also the lawmakers on voted to impeach -- one of the lawmakers who voted to impeach talks about her decision. with advil, you have power over pain, so the whole world looks different. the unbeatable strength of advil. what pain? how did you find great-grandma's recipe?

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democrats, and they are do-nothing, all they want to do is focus on this. they are declaring their disdain for the american voter. this lawless partisan impeachment is a political suicide march for the democrat party. but they've been trying to impeach me from day one. they've been trying to impeach me from before i ran. >> he didn't stop there. he also took time to attack a grieving widow with an attack on her late husband, the longest serving congressman in the history of the house. our report he joins with us that. you were there. talk about, more about what the president said tonight. >> reporter: yeah, anderson. more than two hours, this is the longest campaign rally speech of president trump's presidency. often rambling, often scathing in his criticism of democrats. it was interesting when he first came out. he started by saying, it doesn't feel like we are being

impeached. the president reveling in the adoration of his supporters. i should point out he tried to counter program. he talked about trade deals with china, the strength of the economy. it didn't take long for him to focus his ire on democrats. the president saying they should vote nancy pelosi out of office. also making a crude remark about schumer schumer and making this crude reaction about bill and hillary clinton. the most appalling statement was about congresswoman debbie dingel following the death of her husband, former congressman john dingel. he is taking her vote on impeachment very personally. listen to what em. >> you have this dingel. you know dingell from michigan? did you ever hear of her? debbie dingell. that's a real beauty. so she calls me up like eight months ago.

her husband was here a long time. but i didn't give him the b treatment, the c or the d. i could have. i gave the a plus treatment. take down the flags. why are you taking them down? for excongressman ding 87. okay. do this, do that. rotunda, everything. everything. that's okay. i don't want anything. i don't need anything for anything. she calls me up. it's the nicest thing that has ever happen. thank you so much. john would be so thrilled. he's looking down. he would be so thrilled. thank you so much, sir. i am that's okay. don't worry about it. maybe he's looking up. i don't know. maybe. maybe. >> and you can hear, there were some audible groans in the crowd. they didn't receive that statement very well.

the president saying democrats should apologize for what they've done to his family. he's taking impeachment very personally and making clear that even though he says, he doesn't feel like he's being impeached, the two hours really shows how he feels. >> mr. president, let's set politics aside. my husband earned all his accolades after his years of service. mr. president, you brought me down in a way you can never manning and your hurtful words just made my healing much harder. i'm not sure what to say. >> just repulsive. what did he was completely repulsive. and even the trump supporters seemed to think that it crossed a line to attack her that way. a grieving widow. and the idea that he just did what you do, you have the longest serving -- >> he gave they are a plus

treatment. you know what i mean? >> yeah. why would you do that? why would you give them d or the c? this is what you do when you honor people who serve. >> he's the longest serving congressman in history. his father was congressman before him for 22 years, i think. i think he was in for 60? >> 59 years. >> 59 years. >> he served in world war ii before that. by the way, mr. president, you don't control who lies in state in the rotunda. the speaker does. that's been his call. in case our viewers don't know. not only was at the longest serving, he was crucial to passing the civil rights act, to creating medicare, to passing the clean air act, the clean water act, the contact, obamacare. so much of what we take for granted in modern life. john dingell was central to. he was a giant of the house and widely admired on both sides. in fact, i think it was mr. boehner was sworn in as speaker, he asked dingell to swear him

in. john boehner, a republican, asked mr. dingell to swear him in. that's how revered he was. and he's not worthy to carry that man's boots. >> today he was impeached for his conduct as a president. what that showed was his character as a man. and on that he could have been impeached a long time ago. >> it was notable today that nobody defended the president's character on the republican side. they went after process. they went elsewhere. >> no one said there's no way he could have done that. >> exactly. but paul is right. john dingell was one of the last giants of the congress. and he was revered by many, many people and debbie dingell came after him, holding that seat and she's widely admired. she had a lot of friends in congress. i think they will find these actions to be disgusting.

it also tells us, in contrast to the last two presidents who have gone through impeachment, nixon and clinton in modern times, both came out contrite when it was over. in both cases, they went on. nixon resigned and clinton had a lot of contrition. went back to work. but we resolve the issues. this president is so embittered that he will come out and spend the rest of his time in office getting even. that's what troubles us. what kind of president will he be? nixon was good enough to leave. he had to heave. but clinton went ahead and worked for the good of the country. what you want to have is a president committed to the good of the country. not carrying out vendettas like this against debbie dingell because she voted the way she voted. >> is it defensible? >> no.

her words are powerful this evening. the best thing i can say is that the president is an entertainer. he sees himself as that. if you get on the stage when you're mad and talk for two hours, sometimes you will say things you regret. >> do you think he regrets it? i don't think he regrets it. >> he may not say that he does. >> do you think he cares about a grieving widow? he doesn't talk to his own wife. why would he care about a woman who loved her husband in. >> i think anyone who said that would regret it. i'm not defending it. >> the counter programming is effective though. he had his rally and then he does his stick and then we're talking about he was impeached. this is who he was in the campaign. this is who he is as president. but it's not what he will be. it is not what he will be impeached for and i think there is potentially historical

precedent for a president's character and conduct, that this isn't the impeachable behavior. and the democrats considered a whole host of facts throughout his term in office for things he could have been impeachable for. the mueller report issues, whether it was the obstruction that was part of that, whether it is his constant and incessant lying to the american people. and none of that is impeachable of what was impeachable was his abusing the office and involving national security in foreign power in defense issues. that's why the democrats -- and one hind to act today. >> the tie-in, we talked about this. i was working for night gingrich when we impeached president clinton. i see so many parallels. one of those was republicans hated bill clinton. it was personal. they had a vitriol for him.

there were criminal reports in the starr report. would it always turn over to how much we viscerally disliked him the public saw that and they said you're just trying to get him. president trump triggers people on the left to the point they get so angry that they move off of what you just talked about and their vitriol and hatred comes out and becomes very personal. he responds personally back. it is the same mistake we made. >> it has to be weird for all these republicans. maybe it's not. it has to be interesting for all these republicans who spent today defending the president. not on his character but on process. just standing up for the president. then as soon as it's done, hear him attack a widow and her dead husband. that's the guy they're defending. that's the guy who they are now the party of donald trump. it is his party. and that is who they are

planting their flag on and going to the barricades for. >> more than once again today, he compared himself to jesus. >> i'm not saying i don't understand why they do it. >> it happened twice. >> i think it has to hurt if they have an ounce of like decency. it has to hurt that i just spent thought political capital and defending this person and this is who he is. >> i'm sure it hurt democrats when their hero did what he did. politicians let us down all the time. the lowest unemployment since 1969. the lowest pay gap in history. the judges that he's confirmed. taking on china. manufacturing jobs are up. that's why republicans are supporting the president.

>> just because you have things a president does doesn't justify this behavior. >> if somebody is a pig, you don't overlook they're a pig just because they smell good on a march day. >> it has gone down. the president's approval on the economy has gone up. >> he was not impeached because people don't like him. >> that's not clear. >> that's not true. and we know there were many times the democrats voted against impeaching him. >> i have to get a break in. michigan republican congressman fred upton has just weighed in. i've always looked up to my friend john dingell. there is no way to dishim in a crass political way. most unfortune and an apology is due. more ahead. (children playing)

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in the lead up to the president's impeachment tonight, several members decided to compare the impeachment to event like pearl harbor and the trial of jesus christ. >> on december 7, 1941, a horrific act happened in the united states. today, december 18, 2019, is another date that will live in infamy. >> they'll be forever remembered as the senator joe mccarthy's of our time. >> possible just pilate afforded more rights to jesus than were afforded to this president. >> father, forgive them for they know not what they do.

>> joining us from the judiciary committee. having some perspective on it, now just a few hours, i guess, how do you feel about what happened today? >> it was surreal. it was painful to sit there and watch the republicans, some of whom i know quite well, mock, laugh, make comments that were completely ridiculous, you know. some of the comparisons that you just showed. and i think it was a great affront from their side. a great affront to what the frame hers in mind. from our side, i was so proud of our democratic party. i was proud of the people in tough districts who really had to think about how they were going to deal with this whole situation. but at the end of the day, they swore that oath to the constitution and they if he that they had what they needed to

uphold that oath. >> you did not hear congressmen or women making the full throated defense of the president's character. saying it is conceivable. >> that was true throughout. i sat through 18 hours for the impeachment mark-up. the whole time we were hook at the mueller report. and you never saw the republicans actually provide a fact defense. ever. they talked about how the process was bad. and then every once in a while they would though out a few things that were not really facts. but they stayed away from defending the president. defending any of the arguments we were making. they didn't have the ability to do that. >> nancy pelosi, her decision, or her at this point, not moving the articles of impeachment, not sending them to the senate. not naming managers.

what is the may? >> well, we have the right to do that. we don't have to transmit them right away. i think her belief, and many of us feel this way, the senate has refused to put forward fair rules for a fair trial. 71% of the american public according to a reason poll i saw want the witnesses to testify. they want a fair trial. they believe we need to be able to call these witnesses and hear from them. so what pelosi is saying, don't ask me when you don't know what this trial will look like. >> so where does this go in if mitch mcconnell says i won't bow to your demands, would you support the house not sending the articles of impeachment over at all in. >> no. it's hard to imagine we wouldn't send the articles over unless it was such a sham from the very

beginning. i have to tell you, i was in the judiciary committee room when mitch mcconnell announced that he was coordinating everything with the white house. the idea that the foreman of jury, the same person who sets the rules for the trial, is coordinating with the defendant is absolutely outrageous. and that i think this is where sometimes i think, i see, i have seen the limits of our constitution this the imagination of the founders. i don't think they ever anticipated that there would be a party who would refuse to put country over their own party. >> the argument of the democrats has been, we cannot wait for court rulings west want to do this fast. move on and talk about table top issues that they care about. if that was the motivation, on the time line so far, isn't holding up sending the articles, the impeachment over for trial in the senate, isn't that running counter to what they're

saying? >> we're not talking about holding it up for months and months. we have to get the rules of the trial figured out quickly. hopefully happens immediately. hopefully these get transmitted quickly and we get trial started with rewitnesses. when those senators take that oath of impartiality, i hope they're remembering exactly what that means, to lie an oath. that is rae really important. and our democracy depends on this. >> thank you. appreciate it. just ahead, more on whether speaker pelosi can force senate majority leader mitch mcconnell's hand. tremfya® helps adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis uncover clearer skin that can last. in fact, tremfya® was proven superior to humira®

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everywhere. everywhere. everywhere. everywhere. everywhere. more now on nancy pelosi sending the articles of impeachment to the senate and mitch mcconnell who is expected to speak on the matter at 9:00 said tuesday, it just won't happen. >> the senate is judge and jury to hear trial, not to rerun the entire fact finding investigation. because angry partisans rushed sloppily through it. >> you've been on the hill a long time. what do you expect his move is? >> does that sound like someone intimidate by what's going on? i saw someone on his team

saying, pelosi pulled the pit out of the grenell aid and then decided to hold on to it rather than throwing it over the wall. she has it in her lap when she could have passed it off to chuck schumer. i guess they've planned it. what they're saying, her left wing may have done this to her. they want to pick this fight. they want the fight. they think they can win a fight. let's talk about witnesses and keep it going. the moderates are saying, can we get this over with? by the way, very similar to 1998. we're going to get bill clinton no matter what. >> she's like mcgyver. if she has a paper chip and a rubber band and chewing gum, she will toss it over. >> by the way, our viewers are watching air force one arriving back in washington. >> we have as democrats a

political gain if the trial is seen to be a sham. it will be a reaction to that. if they do what mitch seems to be moving toward, senator mcconnell, excuse me, just like, we'll have a quick vote and cheer the guy. i think people will say, wait a minute. that's not a trial. once the house has the sole power to impeach. the senate has the sole power to remove. >> swing hairs are saying, please start focusing on the things that matter to us and get done dealing with this. >> right. >> a long trial is not good for democrats. >> i think one has to go back to one fundamental. this president did not send a single document and block a key witness from coming to testify. >> it is unprecedented. it's not what nixon did and it's not what clinton did.

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nothing actually comes of it. so i am a little bit curious why the speaker thinks this is the fight to pick. >> tim? >> i think that i'm just trying to wrap my head around the circumstances under which mitch mcconnell would cave. if it's eyeball to eyeball and he would blink. we saw him in the case of merrick garland when he decided to go eyeball to eyeball with the constitution and precedent, and he didn't blink, and he didn't confirm president obama's choice for the court. i just don't see what incentive he has to cave at this point, which means that the speaker might have to cave. and it wouldn't look very good for her. perhaps there is the sense on her part that the president is so keen to have a show trial because he loves tv that that might be reason for mitch mcconnell to come back with an offer which then she can embrace and say is a fair set of procedures. i don't know.

but it's a surprise to me that she would do this tonight when the story today is the historic impeachment, only the third time in our history a president's been impeached. that is today's story, and this seems to be stepping on the line a bit. >> well, it's putting the ball back in the senate's court, which is where this thing ultimately is going to be resolved, right? and people have a sense of what a trial is. and a trial without witnesses just doesn't seem like a trial. this has been polled. we were talking about this during the break. the abc/"washington post" poll, 71% of americans say there ought to be witnesses. 64% of republicans do. and, again, i've been through this. so has mike. bill clinton personally testified. does anybody think donald trump is going to testify? four witnesses testified in the senate. clinton gave blood. you think trump's going to give blood? the level of obstruction by this guy is really remarkable.

>> we got to take a break. i want to thank everybody tonight. we're going to be right back. ♪

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it's been quite a day. it's going to be quite a night. i want to turn it over to chris for cuomo prime time. >> thank you, coop. i am chris cuomo. welcome to a special midnight edition of prime time. the president of the united states has been impeached. it's only the third time we've ever had this happen but we've never had one like this. history has been made and it's still being written. the speak every of the house dropped a big cliff-hanger after the votes. she isn't committing to when she will send the two articles of impeachment to the senate. now, first of all, can she delay it? why would she delay it? what does it mean? all we know for sure is it's time to get after it. you know, part of the task, especially on an historic occasion like this, is to figure out what matters. the absolute here is that the