communications with the governor, even to the point of writing draft letters for the governor to edit and sign. john? >> common. is that so? drew griffin, thank you very much for that. the news ticontinues. we'll hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." we have an exclusive tonight, new intelligence on that arrested giuliani associate tied to an oligarch who is tied to putin. there is a troubling money trail reveal revealed. another question. is pelosi right to hold back the articles of impeachment or is it going to back fire on the democrats? hold on, it ain't the holy days yet. let's get after it. all right. maybe i'm wrong. maybe trump isn't teflon after all. one of the top evangelical magazines is now taking the highly unusual step to call for the president's removal.

here's one part. the editor in chief writes, "we are playing with a stacked deck of gross immorality and ethical incompetence. it will crash down on the reputation of evangelical collision and it will come crashing down on a nation. . there's a group of conservatives that would give a big amen to that. they just formed a superpac to help defeat the president. welcome to primetime. >> thanks, chris. now, let's talk about what matters. you look a little beat up. i don't want you to think it was the trul supporters. give people the public service announcement. what did you learn? >> get checked for skin cancer, folks. when they get it early, it's entirely treatable. >> thank god you got checked, you're doing the right thing. i wish you well going forward. i wish you well for your family and the holy days and a merry

christmas. >> and to yours. >> thank. you got no case. evangelicals, he'll get three quarters of their votes. they want the judges. they won't explain why. we'll have a representative of the community to make the case. there are not enough of you. you and i have never seen a republican president as popular in party as this. >> well, partly because, chris, the party has shrunk a good bit butt folks still with him are still with him hard. the fact of the matter is evangelicals were a significant part of donald trump's support in the 2016 election. they have been very happy with the worldly outcomes he has provided them because they feel very aggrieved by a lot. things in society and they felt like they had to make a deal with the devil in order to accomplish things they wanted in terms of selecting judges that would rule as they chose and selecting, you know, a president who would be very, you know, aligned with them in some of their policy outth that they

wanted. >> the praesz argesident's argu you don't like how i talk, who i am. that's why people who feel disaffected and forgotten put me in there and i'm doing exactly what i said i would. enough with your style point and insider games, this is the new party, that's why you just saw what happened in impeachment lock step, baby. >> chris, one of the things about donald trump is that he has appealed to a certain segment of the republican demo that has found itself falling in love with statism and mild authoritarianism, maybe not so mild in the future that donald trump represents. he does not represent what the traditional conservative values in this country were, which are things like limited government and the rule of law and personal dignity and responsibility and honesty and integrity. he's the opposite of almost all

of those things in many, many meaningful ways. look, i'm not denying the power trump has over the republican base, but as a conservative, there are still folks out there in the world who are going to call b.s. on a lot of it because a lot of it is not, you know, fundamentally conservative in any way. and some of the policy outcomes that he thinks he's going to achieve in terms of executive orders, those things are ephemeral. those things can be reversed in a hot second. also, at some point when there's a democratic president again, they're going to say, well, look, trump took all these executive actions, trump took all these things outside the bounds we normally used to think of the presidency containing so i feel free to do that as well. i think it's a cycle that does not end well for this country. >> so you have significant disagreements with the president, but the question that becomes what's the point of the super pack, if you beat hill, you get a democrat, you're a conservative theoretically, you should have bigger problems with them than you do with him.

>> the problem is, chris, that donald trump is a fatal and consequenkon consequential moment not just for the party but for the public. we are seeing the rule of law burned to the ground by this white house and president. this is not good for the nation no matter what your ideological preferences are. the fact of the matter is donald trump i believe represents a much greater thread to this country's future than the temporary inconvenience with somebody with whom i have idea lodge cgical differences. it is a threat to this country where the imagery, scary socialist in the democratic party, they often end up being -- if barack obama was the socialist mastermind, he was terrible at the job. he turned out to be a centrist,

technic technocratic democrat. >> you still have the problem that your elected leadership disagrees with you and there's another man who disagrees with you, whom we both know and respect, even though he seems to really not like me right now, rudy giuliani. rudy giuliani has a nose for b.s. we both knew him, me growing up most of my life as a guy who grew up hating -- how do you explain his conversion? >> someday we're going to tease that ball of yarn out one day and figure out what it is but the rudy giuliani that is engamged wiengam engaged with the things he's involved with now in ukraine and

all those ololigarchs, those ar the guys rudy would have been putting in jail 30 years ago. i think it has something to do with that donald trump corrupts everybody is in his orbit. rudy has decided his last swan song will not be the man who turned the city around in the 90s but rudy's errand boy who are trying to retake ukraine for vladimir putin. >> i appreciate you being with me, especially on a friday night. >> sure. >> why trump? i'm blessed, i got people all across the political spectrum close to me and i talk to all the tile. we were all dead wrong about this man's celebrity, about his draw, about his ability to identify a group that he really shares nothing in common with. why has he been able to marshal the strength of the disaffected, former parts of the democratic

working class base and have them so strongly adhere and forgive behavior that was a death sentence for any other republican or democrat? >> i think it's a combination of three major factors, chris. the first factor was that hillary clinton was this built-in character that for 30 years my party had demonized in ways that almost never existed in any other political space. the second was that an awful lot of people believed in the television character they saw in the reality tv show for 15 years as donald trump as a competent leader and a manager and a smart guy and a considered thinking and negotiator. they believed what they saw on television. the third major factor is that the other network has a very strong normative behavioral molding factor in those people that supported trum. that network put itself all in for trump and for this sort of nationalist populism that bannon

and trump engineered. those three factors built this illusion of who donald trump was on the campaign trail. there's been a wide differential between that image that we saw and the actual governance of this president. >> well, there is a belief in him that very much is akin to faith. that's why this whole religious point of consternation and pivot is so interesting. rick, heal quickly, god bless. thank you for being on the show. i'll speak to you soon. >> merry christmas. this is interesting, having this christian magazine come out and say these things about the president. one, even the christian conservatives in the evangelical movement usually stay out of politics. that's changed. let's test the other side. a christian conservative says, no, you got it wrong. the president is the choice for followers of christ. why? let's have the discussion next. all our whiskies are aged, blended and aged again. it's the reason our whisky is so extraordinarily smooth.

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criticized, doesn't like it. we know what he does. he lashed out at the evangelical publication that says his immorality is too much for hill. th -- him. in defense of himself the president said "no president has ever done what i have done for evangelicals or to religion itself." what does that mean? why do people who used to say character counts in politics, why do they back this president? before we get started, the best for christmas, best for the holy days for you and your family. >> i'm not a jew but thank you. >> merry christmas. we're new yorkers so we're culturally jewish, born in queens, grew up in queens. but right now we're talking about evangelical christians so what's your question, chris? >> i think if we went down the list of things, if i said would you say this about someone who

just passed away, you'd say, no, i'm not saying that. >> correct, correct. >> but you back somebody as a person of faith who says all of them. >> yeah. well, it's like my pilot has tattooed and he's on his fourth wife but he's an amazing pilot. i would prefer a pilot who has been married for 30 years to the same woman. sometimes things are complicated and i think that in this day and age, we've had such a dramatic choice. i mean, look, the day hillary clinton was chosen as the standard bearer for the party and trump was chosen, most people had a tough choice. it was not, you know, it was not ronald reagan and mondale or whatever it was. it was a tough choice for everybody. so you had to think hard about what matters. and i think that given the track record of hillary clinton, a lot of people, like myself, were scared to death at the thought of a clinton presidency.

>> why? >> i think something happened to the democratic party over the last 30 years. it's not the party that we grew up with, it's not the party that it was in fdr's day. it has gone so far left that in a way, if you want somebody who let's say respects the constitution and is going to appoint originalist judges, not conservative, originalist ju ii justices who will call balls and strikes, your only hope is to have -- it's a serious issue. >> it is serious issue. >> you want what you wanted. you're not better than anybody else. >> you know you're a sinner and you're not better than anybody else. >> that's not the way you guys played it. you played it character counts. when bill clinton was impeached, you all wrote letters, forget about crime, this is about morality. this president passes none of

those tests. so if those tests don't matter anymore, it's just getting your judges and political positions you might as well be like the deejays of america, they have their own wants. >> if you make it that transactional, fundamentally you're making a mistake. any time anyone votes for anyone, there are aspects to it that are like that. we mostly vote self-interest. but somebody really cares about america doesn't just vote self-interest. he votes for what's good for america. so when you care about religious liberty, you can say i care about myself, i care about my religious liberty or you can say, no, i care about the concept of religion liberty and i care about everyone's religious liberty. you begin to lose all your liberty -- >> why do we not prize religion liberty, unless you define that as your ability to exclude other people because you ever don't like them? >> now that's sofestory. >> it's not sofestory. >> you're smarter than that.

>> religion liberty meant i'm a christian, i don't want to bake your cake, i don't want to look at you, i don't want to sell to you. >> i'm a jew and someone comes in and says bake the swastika cake, now will the american government force the jew to bake the swastika cake? will the government force the jew to bake that cake? we all know the government will say you know what you should have the right to get any cake -- are you going to go there? >> it was a terrible example. it was a terrible example. >> new york the example is -- >> nazis and gay people. >> if you ever want to win an argument, you can keep going there. i'm telling you that's absolutely ridiculous. >> you brought it up, be honehonest. >> let's take a better example. >> how about that? >> it doesn't matter. if you think of it this way, in america, when somebody comes and asking you to do something that

violates your conscience, okay, the reason i used the swastikas and the jews, we don't care that the baker says i'm here for everybody, we would say if somebody brings in something offensive to, you have the right in america to say, i'm sorry, go to the next baker. >> what if it's black people, greek people, italian people? >> we've been through this. in the civil rights act, we said you can't say to somebody because of the color of your screen -- >> or your creed or orientation. >> but the point is if somebody comes in, let's say a muslim baker and says i want you to bake a cake, you know, celebrating a zionist organization. we would say in america that government should not force the muslim baker to bake a cake celebrating zionism. that's because of american principles called religious liberty and liberty in general. >> let me make it easy for you.

i give you the point, okay? it's not about your rights. it's about what is right and wrong and that is a different set of criteria that people of faith ascribe to. it's not what the law insists on. you have a different set of standards. >> correct. >> and i don't think this president and honestly i don't think you think this president checks any of the boxes that matter to you in an individual -- >> do you think catholics who believe abortion is wrong is a horrible sin -- >> that is the teaching of the church. >> right. do you this i that catholics could ever vote for a pro-abortion candidate? would they be violating their faith? >> no. >> why? >> because they live in a secular society and the law respects the choice of people to have reproductive rights. so that is your -- >> you're talking reproductive rights, which is also sofestory. >> eric, to be accurate, you are anti-choice. you think people should not have a choice of what to do with

their body. >> the anti-murdering the unborn. we say it's legal now -- >> as soon as they are identified as people, sngs that -- >> eight months along did. >> no, not eight months along. nowhere -- >> you happen to be related to someone who took a stand on this. all they did was codify roe v. wa wade. why do that? >> but i just told you it's wrong. forget about europe. i'll bet you anything you want anywhere you want that all new york did was codify roe v. wade. why lie about it? >> after 12 weeks in the womb, we're not going to kill that because we believe it's a human being. >> they do the reself-. >> in america when we say 20 weeks or 24 weeks, people freak out and say, no, no, we want to be able to take the life of a child. >> you have a viability test. we went through this. >> did we?

>> that's roe v. wade. wheers you should push for. >> tell me. >> we need more scientific veech about when life begins. there's too much of a range. different religions have different -- >> you think a 5-month-old fetus -- >> i'm not a scientist. >> that is like when because my wife and i go to gettal ultima tround and there are a lot of candidates to believe what you believe on reproductive rights. why get behind a man who makes a mockery of your faift. >> most people don't think he's makes a mockery of our faith. >> does he -- >> most people who are evangelicals like you -- >> i'm not an evangelical. you're a catholic.

does he make a mockery of the humanantory. >> if intentionally unkind, he is mean to opponents and he doesn't honor his oath. these are matter to us, don't think? ncht we never got to mark's editorial in. >> no, i wanted here because i don't understand how people who believe what you believe get behind somebody who does not, unless you're just going to say it's transactional. >> wait a minute. when in the world have ivan yell calls ever supported someone just because he ticks off the boxes? >> you used to say character counts -- >> you're saying every evangelical christian has character? >> no. >> i don't would evangelical christians need to count character with regard to our own faith? >> because that's what you're

about. your faith is about character and adherence and christ message. >> so i wouldn't vote for a you? >> why can't you? >> you're the one who is saying i wouldn't vote for. of course i would vote. >> according to you? >>. >> do you know anybody who has sex outside of marriage? >> let's say everybody doeslet's say everybody does in. >> so that used to be enough. >> but the catholic church doesn't say that? >> yes, them, too. >> and i've had that goo i want to wish you the best you're

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we have new information on the movement of indicted giuliani associate lev parnas. we have details from cnn

correspondent drew griffin. >> lev parnas, the rudy giuliani associate indicted in an election financing case and facing new questions about his work on behalf of president trump in ukraine. now may have a $1 million link to a ukrainian billionaire allegedly tied to russian organized crime. according to the u.s. government, a lawyer for ukrainian oligarch dmitri loaned $1 million to parnas's wife in september in a transaction described as suspicious. that lawyer told reuters the money was his and had nothing to do with firtosh. prosecutors argued this raises the possibility that parnas is a flight risk. the judge allowed parnas to stay in his florida home while he awaits trial. >> i want to thank god and my wonderful wife and mother and

all the supporters sending me well wishes. >> but the million dollar loan is just another link in this bizarre case that ties president trump's private attorney to two shady businessmen in florida who donated hundreds of thousands in alleged illegal commonwealth pain contributions to republicans and are now also connected to firtash. it's who he is linked to that makes this even more troubling. dmitri made a fortune selling russian gas to ukraine with bankers close to vladimir putin, granting him credit lines of up to $11 billion according to reuters. >> he was given the sweetheart deal. >> absolutely. that was the primary cash cow. it was this intermediary company between the ukrainian natural gas company. >> they have acknowledged ties

to a russian and in a court filing the department of justice said ferto be was one of the upper associated, even he is considered to be one of the close associates of another guy who is the head of russian organized crime. >> the u.s. indictment charging hill in an international bribery scheme. shortly after it was filed, he told the bbc he didn't do it. >> translator: i am absolutely innocent. i did not pay any bribes and did not set up any organized criminal group. i don't understand why all this has happened to me. >> reporter: but fir dplt tash has been stuck in austria, fighting extradition to the u

and traveled to austria and con sinced fear partial they had trul throughing prosecutors say furtash even paid tashness another $200,000 to translate. rudy giuliani was being paid, too, $500,000 from parnas. >> eli honic, a forrer. >> as often has, the money tells a stow. and you have a million dollar going from fur tash to honest and you have half a million from

that are really difficult to justify and on top of that you have rudy doing legal and vebtive work for donald trump for free, for pro bono. >> sources tell cnn parnas bragged dmitri fear tash had bankrolled his lavish lifestyle of private planes and bodyguards, calling himself the best paid interpreter in the world. drew grinch, cnn, atlanta. >> let's turn to cnn senior reporter vicky ward. good to see you as you but then when i had was private jets, bodyguards, suvs. what is new that we've reported is that five of the private flights that left parnas, since

september, were build to a credit card in his wife's name, though she only to. >> so the question becomes why. so that's the same vet lan a got the $1 million loan from fertash's attorney. that beks and it goes towards parnas's situation in ukraine to help giuliani get dirt. >> that's right. two hours ago there were documents in court that included injuri correspondent in which the lawyer asks for the money back after parnas was -- it would be

bad for his reputation. >> what does parnas's say about this? >> he says that the loan, although ib treeging, is irrelevant. receipt of these funds is known to prosecutors at the time. it has absolutely nothing to do with the charges he fac faces mr. parnas continues to pursue being heard by congress. he has a firsthand, highly relevant witness and it is indisputable wh sworn testimony should be taken. >> now, he can be it could have a lot to do with whether or not rudy was getting played by these guys around him. the fbi may be looking at rudy for proof of him being used by these guys. you know, there's sufficient

sgs. >> >> whether or not rudy got played by these guys. >> well, and i think the role of dmitri fur tash becomes more and more intriguing really important questions to be asked this week. the contra dick interest be and his lawyer fighting back very strongly, saying, no, that money was from me. it's all very strange. >> yes. and you are getting us faert down the road that be anybody. we look very forward to the next chapter. vicky, happy christmas to you and your whole tam of remember you want to think now rudy,

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good luck, by the way. the mafia tried that. and the farc. the mafia, the farc and the word you can't say, islamic extremist terrorist have all taken out contracts of one kind or another to kill me. and my answer is good luck. i just get ache griangrier and e on. >> god forbid anybody try to hurt rudy giuliani. if an oligarch with connections to putin and parnas to maybe help him get legal roo lae from these american charges, what's

the corn? >> huge concerns. first and foremost, it's worth reminding yosh views that never have we seen a sitting president interacting with and being connected however tangentially to the oligarch who is tightly connected to putton and the russian administration. i just can't even describe it. it's so out of the ordinary, it should take your breath away. >> dmitri fertash is clearly pursuing a a strategy of getting out from under the charges of the charges he threw the witness. the there. those are the same folks involved in the entire scheme to drum up dirt for the purr of

helping a president's campaign. it's just an unbelievable overlapping of some very shady activity in ukraine and with shady characters. >> let's take it at its least damning, which is rudy didn't know anything about this. the guy says the charges aren't true, maybe he talks to the lawyer, he says there's some applauplausibility to their cas can hook you up with a good lawyer and his wife and that's the end of it. maybe parnas was playing rudy. that's the most beneficial reading to rudy jfl. significance in. >> he is a very sophisticated customer in these waters. if anyone should have known the sensitivity of getting involved with theme like this, people like parnas, people like fe

ferta fertash. >> so what's the wurzelbach reading? >> the wurz reading is that rudy and the team on the groundworking with lutsenko, the folks they hope to be able to deliver dirt on joe biden, was actually being supported by, maybe funded by, beak rolled by a. >> illegal or just unethical? >> it's certainly unethical. there are many ways this could be illegal. you have a whole legal taerms here in the net work. there's conspiracy laws, foreign registration laws. but it's really a morias that should cause rudy some serious concern. >> andrew m no need to go more.

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really about them, that this president represents something bigger being under attack. but that is a lie. however, if they do want this to be about the highest form of law and order, so be it, i argue. and from old testament to new we go. and from j.c. himself, lord and savior for many of us, prophet to others, and regardless of what you believe, a reminder of the best of human virtues. and he said to pilate, i came into the world to testify to the truth. jesus' message was, in fact, only that. jesus is love, is truth. the truth is they're hiding the people who know the most about ukraine, the two mentioned the most by others as being involved, and the two who supposedly clear trump. you want to talk about truth, let's do it. who keeps a perfect alibi quiet? think about it. in a real prosecution, what do

you do? the police are asking you questions. you bring the person in. you bring the people in. here are the papers. i wasn't where you say i was. i wasn't with whom you say i was. i wasn't doing anything of the things you aedge will. i can prove it any time. here we are in a political venue, which is what this is, right? that's what impeachment is. who hides the people whom they say can clear them? think about the absurdity of that suggestion. strip away the noise and the pained expressions of these politicians, the fake outrage who swore an affair was impeachable, but asking ukraine to help in an election is unthinkable. just think, who would hide the people who could clear them? no one. again, amen, amen, i say. i believe in invoking the faith of the faithful. unlike the efable questions that the religious face so often, this we can know. if the president is about the truth and being persecuted, then bolton and mulvaney must speak.

this isn't about pelosi stalling or even contempt with us claims by mcconnell and others that he's going to take a false oath of impartiality. talk about being faithful to god. it's all noise. give us the two who know the most according to both sides, and if the prayerful ploys don't work, then stick to the secular system that binds us. the founders warned if you go through this process and you shirk the truth, it would disrupt public tranquility. it seems like an oxymoron now, right? rarely in our history has public tranquility been as remote as it is now. the division entrenched. the gulf separating americans wide, widening. and the man who swore an oath to us and to god to serve us now serves only himself apparently. why would i say that? nixon, clinton, for the sake of this process did what this president refuses to do. they sent their top people to talk, and their witnesses were

damning. here trump is for disclosure, and yet he's the only one to suggest that the witness that's being withheld would help him. again, it offends truth on every level. that may be why so many of you who support the president say you want to hear from mulvaney and bolton. look at the number of republicans. those two know the truth. shouldn't you? that's the argument. now, we have a very timely bolo for you with the holiday travel crunch under way. this is concerning, next.

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bolo. that means be on the lookout. a high-ranking tsa official is warning the nation's airports. here's the warning. they're becoming unsafe. why?

because the agency is prioritizing speed over security. now, the source here is a whistle-blower, and they charge that top tsa officials have reduced the sensitivity of metal detectors and disabled technology on some x-ray machines and ordered policy changes, all of which result in fewer patdowns. the troubling allegations come as a record-breaking 42 million travelers are expected to pass through our airports for the holy days. now, don't get upset at me and saying, why are you telling the bad guys? that's not how it works. if we're finding out about it, they know, okay? that's how terror investigation has worked for a long time. we don't know first. these are bad people who are looking for ways to cheat the system. so when we find out that the system is making it easier, we have to expose it because that's how you get the system to respond and be fixed, and that's what we want. so thank you very much for watching tonight. i know this is a big weekend for

so many. enjoy the holy days. i'll see you on monday night. now my time is up. there's a lot of news. so let's go to "cnn tonight with don lemon." you like my tie? >> yeah, it's mine. >> yes. thank you so much. >> what happened? >> you know, i came in on the red eye this morning and rose was supposed to make sure i had everything for tonight. she dropped the ball. >> yeah. >> it's christmas, but somebody's got to go, don. >> i'm knocking on the door, i just need a tie. hey, wieait. i'm changing. i just want a tie. >> i didn't know it was you. do you know who this is? >> i don't like the whole thing. i like -- listen. i want the patdowns. i want the extra screening because i want to be safe. i don't care if it makes me late. i don't care if the lines are long. >> this is terrible news. everybody says it. nobody likes