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pack your patience. already we're seeing regional flights an issue and that's because everyone is trying to get to the ski slopes and the volume is big. again, heed the warnings of the advisories from the authorities and try to stay off the roads and this rain will cause big problems in some of the valleys and areas of southern california in toward arizona. >> tom, thank you so much. i'm brianna keilar, thank you for watching. erin burnett "out front" starts now. out front next, so much for president trump's christmas day call for unity. he's on a post-holiday tear. tonight, first senator to take on the leader over impeachment is speaking out. and high alert, u.s. officials puzzled over north korea's christmas threat. let's go out front. good evening, everyone. i'm kate bolduan in for erin burnett. president trump with a less than cheerful christmas rant, from
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his florida resort. the president was only seen today out playing golf, but he clearly had a lot more on his mind calling house democrats in tweet, hypocrites over impeachment and then calling the house speaker crazy, and once again trying to label impeachment a scam. in total, tweeting 15 times today mostly on impeachment and sending more than 30 tweets since christmas eve. these attacks coming from the same president who said this in his christmas day message. while the challenges that face our country are great, the bonds that unite us are as americans are much stronger. together, we must strive to foster a culture of deeper understanding and respect, that from president trump. pamela brown is out front at the white house. the hypocrisy of it all, the call for unity and then the tweets. it's clear this is weighing on him. >> that's absolutely right. president trump's twitter tirade standing in stark contrast,
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kate, to the unifeying message e delivered on christmas. it is clear he is shedding short-lived christmas spirit especially house speaker nancy pelosi, labeling her san francisco district as filthy and dirty and smearing her as crazy and he attacked her with the baseless claim that she hates republicans and his voters in that videoconference after speaking with u.s. troops. the president is clearly agitated that speaker pelosi is holding on delivering the articles of impeachment and deciding on impeachment manager until after it is clear after the parameters of what the senate trials are and there's no break in the impasse that he has with senate majority leader mitch mcconnel and what appears to be playing out, kate is the president freshly impeached by the house and an intense break over the holiday and stewing over the uncertainty of what will happen next. i did speak to a source close to
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the president's legal team who tells me the lawyers for the president here at the white house and personal lawyers, they are still busy preparing for a senate trial. it's not like lawyers are sitting around with nothing to do and i am told there are still serious discussions about having the lawyer alan dershowitz along with gop allies of the president playing a role in the senate trial. the timing of the senate trial's still fluid and i am told the only thing for certain in terms of the president's legal team is the white house counsel will be leading the defense in the senate and he'll be assisted by several deputies and also that the president's personal outside counsel will be playing a role. kate? >> and that the only other certainty is that the president will not be staying quiet throughout. >> that's true. >> out front with me now jerry connolly of virginia. thanks for coming in. >> good to be with you, kate. >> appreciate it. what the president is hitting on some of his tweets are something i've heard from other
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republicans that democrats said there was urgency behind impeachment in the house because the president presented a national security threat. you had said he posed a clear and present danger, and now real or perceived democrats are holding up process in the senate. what do you say to that? >> i think that the speaker has reason to want to know what the institution, the house of representatives is handing over to the other institution, the united states senate and what kind of fair trial they're going to organize? she's got to be bothered as most of us are including lisa murkowski of alaska, the republican senator by statements made by the majority leader mitch mcconnel and by lindsay graham and others that have clearly shown they're anything, but impartial. if this were a normal trial and they were looked at in the voir dire process they'd be dismissed
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from jury because they're not impartial. they had to take an oath. >> it's a political trial. >> it's a trial, kate. it's a constitutional trial. they take a second oath to be impartial. why do you think they take that oath? it's not a game. it's not something to be discussed. >> do you believe some of the democratic senators in the senate are impartial? elizabeth warren is going to be impartial? bernie sanders is going to be impartial? >> i believe every senator has an obligation by the constitution to look at the evidence presented and conduct at a fair and impartial trial and arrive at a hopefully fair and impartial verdict. >> let's talk about the process because it is important. you mentioned lisa murkowski and let me play how they ran this in the house. >> spookeaker pelosi was very cr and direct that her goal was to get this done before christmas. if there was such urgency that
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it needed to be done before the end of the year then for what purpose does she hold back on them at this point in time? we talked about that a bit just now and you talked that the articles willedn't be held indefinitely and should there be a time line offered by the speaker here? >> i think she's being smart and a, creating some space for our democratic leader shumer and mcconnell to come together and agree to some rules of engagement as the republican and democratic leaders did in the previous impeachment trial. secondly, he's got door worried about statements by the majority leader that there will be no distance at all between the senate and the white house that he would be in full coordination. that troubled lisa murkowski and it troubles me and almost always
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troubles speaker pelosi. >> the speaker does need to name the house manager. she said in her letter to democratic house members that the number of people who want to be managers is indicative of the strong case saying there are a lot of people who want the job. do you want the job, congressman? >> i'll leave that up to the speaker. she has a long list of very able members i would be honored if i were asked and -- >> what are the qualities? what qualifies as capable? what are the qualities if you don't want to name anyone that you think is important for this historic moment? >> good question. i think you've got to have a certain logical progression of thought that you can postulate in the senate to make a very compelling case. i think you've got to be articulate and you have to do your homework and be disciplined in laying out the facts and evidence in this case and hopefully persuading if not
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members of the senate and certainly the american public as to the gravity of the abuses of this president. >> you -- do you -- do you want the senate to interview mulvaney and bolton? >> i think it would be useful if they did. i thought it was disingenuous on the part of mcconnell that the house wants the senate to do their job because they didn't interview them. we didn't interview them because they would not cooperate with the subpoena or with the request to testify under white house direction. in fact, there's a court case still pending, i believe, with mr. cooperman as to adjudication by a court which do i abide by? white house counsel or a subpoena issued by the house of representatives? so since we were not able to access their testimony it's perfectly proper if the senate wants to do a thorough job and determine innocence or guilt with respect to the charges
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brought to them in the two articles of impeachment, they should hear from those witnesses. >> still not clear if that would make them show up -- any more likely that they would show up, regardless, congressman, thank you for coming in. >> my pleasure, kate. >> could key republicans throw a wrench into mitch mcconnell's impeachment strategy of working with the white house? >> in fairness, when i heard that i was disturbed. >> plus, the impeachment stalemate continues very clearly. is nancy pelosi making a mistake in the senate trial. and spending outrageous sums in advertising. is it worth it? (coughing) need a change of scenery? kayak searches hundreds of travel sites and filters by cabin class, wi-fi and more. so you can be confident you're getting the right flight at the best price.
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rep senator lisa murkowski saying that she's disturbed by what senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is doing after mcconnell said he is working in total coordination with the white house. lisse listen. >> in fairness when i heard that we had to take a step back from being hand in glove with the defense. >> out front now, joe lockhart former clinton white house secretary, washington post congressional reporter and michael g michael ger hart, a constitutional law professor who testified during the house impeachment hearings. >> murkowski knows her every word is being closely watched when she talks about impeachment. what is she actually saying here? ? this is a bit of a message to the gop leaders that if we do this, we have to do this right. we can't be working hand in glove. there's been this dispute
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between the democrats and republicans as to what is a fair trial and for people in the middle like murkowski, romney and probably susan collins who are representing an electorate who is not for one camp or the other and to say they're working hand in glove with the president is not speaking clear whichever way you think the witness list question is coming down so she's basically sending a signal to mitch mcconnell that she's not comfortable with this and don't count on her with rubber-stamping whatever the trump defense team wants to do. so it's a signal that maybe lisa murkowski's vote is in play as to whether anybody will be testifying in front of the senate, but i wouldn't go so far as to say that it's a signal that she's going to vote to convict the president and there are a lot of steps and she's fundamentally talking about fairness or guilt or not guilt of the president ultimately. >> there is a long road between here and there. >> yes. >> joe, from your perspective, is this significant coming from
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her? >> it is. i think there are conversations going on among republicans. it's very well known that there are behind the scenes republicans in the senate have a lot of problems with trump and don't ever talk about it out loud. so it is significant. if mitt romney said this, trump would have been all over and he's a never trumper and all of that. murkowski doesn't have that same, public persona. >> now that you put it that way trump hasn't said it -- >> he alluded to it in one tweet that the 51 republican senators with mcconnell. >> right. >> you can do the math. maybe he met trump and maybe he met murkowski and let's not give him too much credit here, but i think the conversations that are going on are how do we roll this out with maximum pressure, on mcconnell to change and mcconnell is in three groups and romney who is in his own group and the six or seven vulnerable
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senators and then the retiring senators and lamaral exandriner is key there, so when they come back it will be interesting to see if maybe senator alexander weighs in or senator romney or senator gardner because they only need four, and i think what -- more than anything this is murkowski telling mcconnell you can't do it this way, come back with a better offer and we'll talk. that is interesting. >> michael, it's not unheard of for mcconnell to coordinate on some level with the white house that happened during the clinton impeachment, and where is the line? it's clear senator mcconnell has crossed the line and he's the first senate majority leader to declare that he will coordinate everything and that's the quote. he used the word everything and that's what makes this particularly unusual and we
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expect some coordination on some level, senator daschle and minority leader of the time, coordinated with high-level staff in the white house and here, it sounds like the majority leader will be in constant interaction not just with the president and with his top lawyer who will be there at the trial representing the president. so this creates the atmosphere in which senator murkowski has come forward and said hold on, we have to rethink this. it's not being perceived by the american people as a fair trial. our job is and she's right about this, our job is to protect the institutional integrity of the united states senate and that's what she's trying to do. >> cara, let me play something that the president said over the holiday about the impeachment process. >> ultimately that decision will be made by mitch mcconnell and he has the right to do whatever he wants. he's the head of the senate. >> i have to say i was quite
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surprised that coming from a man who has often said that the only opinion that matters is his own. do you think mitch mcconnell is really driving this train? >> not by himself, and i think that if he were driving the train by himself he wouldn't have felt that he had to say he was working with hand in glove with the president. he's been able to pursue agendas that that he cared about a lot and mitch mcconnell has not been the voice and the bully pulpit of the gop since trump took office and i don't think that's changed radically overnight and the president said it was mcconnell and trump's legal team that he's saying i'm deferring to the senate majority leader on this, but the president has to follow that comment and that statement with the discipline of making sure he stays on that message with his twitter account in the days and weeks ahead and also it's clear that the president does wield influence here and
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that the congressional republicans are responsive to that influence that it's been that way on every subject and it's been that way to date on impeachment and it's not just that the president has said this and it changes the power balance and the fact that he said it does potentially give mcconnell a little bit more ability to respond to these charges that he's just doing the president's bidding and the fact that the president has said no, i'm going to defer to him. if you could, stand by. out front next, i am learning about what a senate impeachment trial might look and sound like. listen. >> senators will not be allowed to speak which will be a good therapy for a number of them. and for all of us. >> and two billionaire candidates dumped 2 million on advertising alone. is this spending out of control?
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tonight, holiday stalemate. sounds glorious, right? no word from house speaker nancy police owe when she will send over the articles of impeachment or what democrats want to see the senate trial look like and so far, of course, mitch mcconnell not blinking, but there are very interesting things we do know already. lauren fox is out front. >> six days a week and absolutely no talking. those are the rules that could government senate's impeachment trial. >> we will have to convene every day six days out of seven at 12:30 or 1:00 in the afternoon. senators will not be allowed to speak which will be good therapy for a number of them. >> the con steuers of the trial
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are still in limbo. >> we don't know the arena that we are in. >> we'd like to see a fair process, but we'll see what they have and we'll be ready for whatever it is. >> but if all else fail, senate rules from the past impeachment trials may serve as a model this time around. once the articles are sent over the rules dictate that a senate impeachment trial is to begin at 1:00 p.m. the following day and expected guests in the senate chamber, chief justice john roberts presiding over the senate trial. >> hear yee, hear ye, hear ye. >> to quote, keep siel own the pain of imprisonment and senators are also expected to take an oath vowing to, quote, do impartial justice before sitting in their desks for the trial. >> i'm not an impartial juror. >> there's no way of knowing how long a trial could last. many republicans argue they'd prefer a shorter one even without witnesses even after the
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president suggested he wants a more robust defense to clear his name. >> give the president his day in court and let's get this behind us to talk about things people care about. >> also unknown, who will play the house managers. the democrats that will make the case against the president. >> the speaker is waiting to understand what the rules of the trial are going to be so she's appointing the right people. >> once the trial is under way, if lawmakers have questions for witnesses or motions to offer they would likely make them in writing to the chief justice. the senate will convene a court of impeachment and when it's time to vote on each article of impeachment, lawmakers stand next to their desks and answer guilty or not guilty. >> mr. specter? [ inaudible ] >> and arlen specter there making a very famous vote by saying not proven and therefore not guilty and that confused the senate clerks for a moment, kate, but so much of this is unknown at this point.
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majority leader mitch mcconnell hopes to have control of all of his republican member, but it only takes 51 votes for any of these rules to change and to change the course of history. >> hope is the operative word on that one. thank you. everyone is back with me. right now, speaker police owe some level is leaving everybody hanging and no idea when the trial will begin or what the definition of a fair trial is in the eyes of house democrats. is this part of a grand plan or do you think the speaker is making a tactical mistake? >> no. i think these effectively using leverage to keep focus whether there will be live witnesses or not. if she'd sent the articles of impeachment over, the trial would start, and who the house managers are and gaining out the trial. it was very smart. if you go back to 1999, i remember -- >> do you want to? do you really want to? >> i really do.
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we made what i thought was a great proposal, you know, to tom daschle saying let's do this quickly and everyone's been interviewed and no eyewitnesses and he said i'll consider it and then the chief of staff came into my office and said well, they've told us to get lost and they voted 100-0 and he said what am i supposed to say? >> just blast daschle and i said really? >> yeah. >> the senate has the ability to tell the white house to get lost. they did it in 1999, and they should do it again. >> fascinating. >> your rendition on this is always something that draws me in. tell me more, joe. >> cara, democrats in almost every interview i've seen including with jerry connolly are applauding pelosi's approach here. from a watcher of congress, is this firthser evidence of the tight grip she has on the caucus or do you think everyone genuinely agree with her?
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>> i think that we saw discord play out within the house democrats and over the course of the impeachment inquiry and choosing what sort of reaction the artic else would fire and they were not as united as they would seem for a very long time on many turns of the road. ultimately when they took that vote in late december they were all, but two people on the first and three on the seconds and one of those people switched parties after that and they reached this point of cohesion and frankly, their worst play at this point was to have that start to fray and break apart as they're trying to stand up to the senate and guarantee that there can be a trial that considers their articles and charges to think that that should actually happen and do so by looking at witnesses, as well. so it's interesting that you're hearing pelosi as we've been reporting for years has quite an ability to count votes and work with the ranks of her party and use carrots and sticks for doing
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that, but the fact that they went through the entire process is why you're seeing so much unanimity in talking with what her play is right here and it's important to note that you're not hearing from the moderates who were the last holdouts on the impeachment vote and everything else like that. they are kind of keeping their own counsel during this break and probably for the -- if they're harboring it, it's a strategic move to make sure those questions are not being voiced at a time when it's important to hold rank for this tug-of-war between the house and senate. >> that's a great point. michael, though there is a lot that we do not know as lauren was laying out in that piece there are interesting rules, and they're required to submit questions in writing and i don't know why i'm so fascinated by it, but i am. no matter how partisan this trial is, how formal is it likely to be?
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it is likely to appear to be quite formal. keep in mind the constitution says very little about the trial and think, the constitution says the senate has the sole power to write impeachment and they give the authority to devise its own procedures otherwise and the important thing to read are the actual senate rules that pertain to impeachment trials and so those rules provide that nothing in the senate will begin until the articles are marched over to the senate. so the talk about the senate doing anything before the articles arrive is in complete count countervention to the rules and the resolution that gets passed at the front end of the impeachment trial. that resolution is what joe is referring to earlier that was passed 100-0 and that resolution will dictate the basic from seed you are that will fall and that's the thing to watch and that will inform everybody about
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what are the procedures that will follow very soon thereafter in the trial. >> when we think about the trial, one unknown still is who will be speaking for the president? we do know that alan dershowitz and has been advising the president's legal team and he was seen talking to dershowitz, a couple of weeks ago and is dershowitz someone that you could see tapping to speak to him in the senate trial and if the goal was for a three-ring circus and the only one who would be better is rudy giuliani, the other one who would be floated and both are embroiled in their own disputes and rudy is being investigated by sdny and two people suing them for genuine assault, and i was trying to think of who the third rank could be and i guess
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he could bring in michael avenatti to try to be bipartisan, but if his goal was to make fun of the process then you're going to see people like dershowitz and giuliani on the floor of the senate. >> stand by to stand by i guess is the only thing i'll say to that. thank you, guys. i appreciate it. thanks so much. >> out front next, would you spend $100 million to get to 5% of the polls. yes, i know your answer is give me 100 million and then we'll talk about it and that's what two billionaires have done. and they're on high alert for kim jong-un's christmas gift. what is he sending? can my side be firm?
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and keep the public safe. tonight, 2020 presidential candidates are trickling back on the campaign trail after a holiday break. andrew yang was in south carolina tonight where if you turned on the tv and you likely did, he could very likely have been greeted by millions of dollars in advertising and not by everyone in the top tier and at least one of the two billionaires running. tom steyer and michael bloomberg are spending a combined $100 million, and that's more than seven times of the combined total than more the other democratic campaigns have spent on television advertising. bfrng that. out front now, patrick healy editor at "the new york times" and maria cardona, cnn political commentator. good to see you.
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>> do you see evidence yet that this kind of spending, this level of it is proving effective? >> some evidence, but not the kind that the candidates necessarily want. tom steyer, it's all short term and it's basically to bump up his poll numbers a little bit to get into the debates and there's no really long term strategy or momentum that has developed for him. he's really burning money just to get, what? ten, 11 minutes of air time on these debates and michael bloomberg, on the other hand is seeing bumps in the polls up to 5% to 7% which is very fast so money is having an impact and more important for democrats and the party that's not money righ pouring money into the attack ads and republicans were attacking each other and they weren't going after trump until it was too late and the key thing is whether the bloomberg money will lead to a real
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national strategy on super tuesday whether there has been a payoff. some have argued no one has been able to afford it before. to patrick's point and just so our viewers can see, this latest cnn polling shows bloomberg at 5% nationally and steyer at 1% and as patrick points out in the early state polls he has made it on to the debate stage. both spending these enormous, honestly obscene sums of money and deploying it in two very different strategies and bloomberg focused on really only super tuesday states and beyond. >> right. do you see one candidate using this money better than the other? >> well, let's take a look at it and see the reasons why this is happening, kate. mike bloomberg is not doing the super tuesday strategy, and he's doing this out of necessity because he got in so late and he didn't see that there was a
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possibility for him to really make a play for the early states. and so, you know, while it's never been tried before, he is doing what he needs to do in terms of trying to make it as possible and as probable for him to get ahead in the super tuesday states, but i think there's a couple of things going here. first one is that the message is not one that is consistent with democratic party messages, right? and that's what you're seeing from sanders and warren that are attacking these billionaires saying they're trying to buy your votes. the second thing is that a lot of the voters aren't really clamoring for billionaires to have jumped into this race, and so a lot of people view their candidacies as simply vanity projects for them and that there's no real pathway and no real base for them to get to the point where they need to be and let's think about delegate, right? while there has been some increase in the percentages from a polling perspective, right?
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we're one month from iowa, these candidates and i'm talking all candidates here need to start showing that they can at least get some delegates and that doesn't happen until you top 15% of support in any state. >> let's actually hone in on iowa because i want both your take on something that politico points this out and it's fascinating. politico is reporting that some democratic insiders are saying that bernie sanders could win the nomination, and dan pfeiffer, one of the people quoted in the article, former adviser to former president obama. he is quoted as saying, i think he should be taken sersly. he has a good shot at winning iowa and a very good shot at winning new hampshire and other than joe biden, the best shot of winning nevada. you were critical of sanders and the talk about iowa, though, now it really does often overlook
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sanders. 39 days to go to iowa? how good of a chance do you think he has this time around? >> i completely agree with dan. i think that every other candidate who sees, obviously every other candidate as a threat and more so those that are at the top of the polls should see sanders as a real threat because he has shown not just staying power, but bounceback power, right? at the beginning, a lot of people to their peril kind of thought his time had been over. his time was 2016 that elizabeth warren was the one who was kind of eating his lunch and that her rise in the polls really put a dent into his supporters and that may have been true at the time and we are back full circle where he has the progressive base and a couple of people saw vulnerabilities for him and we should absolutely take him very seriously and any candidate should and anything is possible at this point. >> the talk, and it's about
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warren and it's about biden and pete buttigieg. why do you think sanders has not gotten the attention that it would mean and a lot of scrutiny. one of my reporters spent the last several weeks talking to sanders supporters about who their second choice is and who their first choice is and the thing we hear over and over again is that all of the other candidates will name, like, two or three others. you'll hear warren talk about buttigieg and talk about biden. it's the sanders supporters who say it's bernie, it's bernie, and the good news for bernie right now is those people are loyal. they're likely to turn out on caucus days and they're not going anywhere and there's enthusiasm there. >> yet again, can't wait for iowa. >> good to see you guys, thank you so much. out front next, u.s. officials puzzled by north korea's threat and latinos for trump.
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quote, unquote christmas gift threatened by north korea. officials had expected that to mean a missile test of some sort pf president trump on christmas eve seemed to downplay the escalating tension this way. >> maybe it's a nice present. maybe it's a present where he sends me a beautiful vase as opposed to a missile test. >> kylie atwood is out front in washington tonight. >> kylie, what are you learning? >> so, kate, u.s. officials are a bit puzzled because christmas has passed and that christmas gift that north korea promised hasn't come and as you said they expected it was going to be some kind of weapons test by north korea and that is what satellite imagery and u.s. intelligence indicated they were preparing for, but the bottom line here is that the u.s. is still prepared for that to potentially happen and just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it won't.
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cnn has learned that the u.s. has pre-approved a series of military actions that it could take. these are show of force actions. they're not direct military actions against north korea and they're options that include u.s. aircraft and aircraft bombers flying over the korean peninsula or military drills happening on the ground and that is the reporting from the pentagon, from barbara starr tonight. so u.s. officials are still prepared for this possibility, but it is important to note, however, kate that north korea has carried out short-range missile tests over the last few months and the u.s. has done nothing in response. >> that's a very good point. thank you so much, kylie. out front now, ambassador hyun and he was involved in the hostage negotiations that led to the release of american college student otto warmbier. ambassador, thank you for being here. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> thank you so much. >> are you surprised that
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christmas is coming on and so far no missile test? >> i must say somewhat, but if you look at the original statement from kim jong-un, you mentioned end of the year and it's a flexible concept and it does not end on december 25th and i do still expect something could happen within the the next couple of weeks, but also remember that early january is kim jong-un's birthday so this period could extend, i would say, two or three weeks or so. >> that's a very important perspective, but the harsh reality is nothing that the administration has done since that first summit in singapore has stopped the north from continuing to build up its weapons program. its arsenal and earlier this week the president's former national security adviser john
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bolton said this. he said the idea that the idea that we're exerting pressure on north korea is unfortunately not true. do you agree with john bolton? >> i do agree with john bolton. most of the pressure you remember was in sanctions. and almost business definition, sanctions erode over time. and if they're not updated, if they're not strengthened, they will erode. and this is especially true, because most of north korean trade with china. over 90% of north korean trade is with china. and china has not really been enforcing those sanctions. and this is also due to u.s. trade war with china. so there is no enthusiasm in china or russia to enforce these sanctions. so as a result, bolton is completely right. maximum pressure is no more. sanctions pressure has eroded. >> you mention the end of the
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year. the north -- the south-imposed deadline at the end of the year for the united states to soften sanctions when it comes to the stalled nuclear talks. when the u.s. does not, what does that mean? >> well, it means that really, if you're looking at it from kim jong-un's point of view, that's his highest priority, to get at least some sanctions relief. and if that does not happen, he's going to react, and he is going to react i believe as kylie has mentioned, most likely missile launch is one of them. and remember, this has been president trump's big thing, there has not been anni cbk icb. i do expect over the next few week there's will be some kind of provocation from north korea. >> ambassador, thank you so much. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. "outfront" next, the
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he can help win over those same voters. nick valencia is "outfront." >> are you a member of border hispanics yet? >> no, i'm not. >> reporter: ray has his work cut out living in the democratic stronghold of el paso, his goal is to get latinos to help reelect the president. but the odds are against him. >> i'm with border hispanics for trump. are you? have you heard of us? >> reporter: as the 65-year-old sees it, there are countless latinos who support the president, but are afraid to admit it. he hopes to convince them their values are more in line with the gop and trump. >> i look at president trump as the one who most closely represents my values. >> reporter: people will hear that and say values? what values does the president have? so when you say that, what do you mean? >> i mean supporting things that i support like being against abortion, being for limited government involvement, being for border security. >> reporter: indeed, support for trump in texas among latinos has remained steady at 30%,
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according to a recent cnn poll. the unwavering support comes in the face of criticism over the president's rhetoric on the latino community, which is critics at best see as offensive and at worst racist. >> when mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. >> reporter: how can you still support somebody who they see as saying racist things against the latino community? >> i disagree. i really don't think he said things that are racist. >> reporter: in august, 22 people were killed in a racist attack targeting latinos in an el paso walmart. baca says anyone who blames trump is trying to make political hay of the shooting. >> i just don't think you can hold a president or president trump in particular, responsible for the actions of a single madman. >> reporter: baca agrees with the president on most things, but not everything, mainly though he supports the idea of a wall. he questions the practicality of building one across the entire u.s./mexico border, a signature issue for trump and his base. >> i see him with his faults, i
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see him warts and all. i don't want to spend $200 billion on a wall if you can do it for $50 million and solve the problem. >> i'm ray baca. >> yes, i remember you, ray. >> good to see you. >> reporter: tonight baca's pitch for trump comes at a gathering for conservatives. but even in a friendly crowd, it can be a hard sell. >> i'll think about it. >> okay. bye-bye. can't win them all. >> reporter: but there are already some unlikely voters he doesn't have to win over. >> president trump was the first president you voted for? >> yes. >> reporter: originally from mexico, 29-year-old blanca binkley became a u.s. citizen just five years ago. she plans on voting for trump again in 2020. >> oftentimes i'm asked but why or i feel like someone is going to throw eggs at me or i'm going to be shunned from the hispanic community. >> reporter: shunned by some, perhaps, but that's what ray baca and trump are counting on. >> we need to get our hispanic
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brethren to quit voting democrat simply because that's what they've always voted. >> reporter: nick valencia, cnn, el paso, texas. >> thank you so much, nick. and thank you so much for joining us tonight. "ac 360" starts now. good evening. thanks for joining us. i'm erica hill. anderson is off, and so is president trump, sort of it. it seems as though there is no break for mr. trump's twitter habit. rage tweeting about the impeachment process and how unfair he feels it is to him. and alzheimer's he did, a small hint of a narrow possibility began to emerge, a senate trial that could be different from what he and frankly many others are currently expecting. but first, quickly, the state of play. as you know, house leadership is hanging on to the articles of impeachment it approved last week. pressing senate republicans for a chance to call witnesses. the president, meantime, is lashing out, tweeting today, quote, now pelosi is demanding everything
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