continuing our breaking news coverage out of the teheran. iranian military leaders admit ukrainian passenger plane was targeted. shot down unintentionally. thanks for being us. u.s. and canada and other countries had already reached that conclusion. the crash killed all 176 on board. which was headed from teheran to kiev, ukraine. many passengers from there going onto canada.

live this hour for us in teheran. i suppose iran admitting what many other countries had already decided. perhaps deniability was not longer an option. what are you hearing? >> certainly deniability probably wasn't an option. it seems the military took a while to come to terms with to see how they were going to phrase it and conduct an internal investigation before coming out. it was interesting we were in touch yesterday with the head of the civil aviation authority. denying it was hit by a miss sill. the explanations were more physical explanations rather than based on information. he was saying he didn't believe that the plane could have been hit by a missile. it would have been gone down immediately and the debris field would have been larger than it was.

the military is coming out and given detailed information as to how it happened. there was a lot of radar activity going on after the strike. there was a lot of aircraft activity by u.s. aircraft on the borders. and they said it was a lot goij towards sensitive military areas. in this country. and said that the plane after taking off flew on a flight pattern that made it appear as though it was in a threatening posture and because of the heightened state of alert that the military was in human error caused that missile to be fired and for the plane to be taken down. it's quite interesting. you have a flurry of iranian officials coming out who are acknowledging the iron b shot down the plane and apologizing for it. the foreign minister came out and sent condolences and apologies to all the nations

involved. specifically iranian nation. one of the things that we know is there were a will the of nationalities on the plane. a lot of canada and europeans. and iranians. a lot of the other nationalities were dual citizen ship. to them it was a lot of iranians killed on the flight and that's a big tragedy. specifically for canada and european countries. and the president comes out issuing a tweet where he apologized for it. and called it an unforgivable mistake. tast a big statement to make from the iranian president. critical of the military. that's not something we see often. the iranian military in the statement said that it was going to offer more information. put up more information and said

they are going to revise and reform the procedure it make sure something like this doesn't happen again. >> this is the thing, when you look at this hours before this happened, iran fires off a bunch of missiles towards bases occupied by u.s. troops. they were on guard for a response. which is fair enough. the area around here does have sensitive military sites that would have been targeted if you're in war situation. one of them is the one they refer to is a research center operated by revolution nar guard core. the question being while on earth was civilian aircraft not groupded before then? why were they in the air? >> i think it's obviously impossible to tell. there are factors to that. on the one hand the question needs to be asked why the civilian traffic wasn't grounded shortly after the counter

strike. on the facilities housing u.s. troops took place there. in ifraq. the question is whether it was relayed or it was possible to happen. the other thing is that also needs to be said is that that area does house a lot of iranian sensitive military areas. it is also a very common flight path for civilian air traffic. i can tell you from my experience i have flown out of the airport 16 times. and every time we took lom that exact flight path. we have been looking at some data coming from various apps and web sites on the flight path that other planes took flying over that area. and i think there were eight or nine flights before that one. and almost all of them took the same path. clearly there were other planes going at least over that very

close area. the iranians were saying it wasn't just the flight path of the plane but the pitch it was in. the rotation. obviously something caused them to believe this plane might be a threat. therefore the airline needs to be asked why it didn't cancel flights. there were international airlines that did cancel. if you look at the immediate time of the hours before that plane was shot down, and i'm very familiar with that time frame with that flight path. that is the main time that international flights take off. and fly towards a lot of places in europe and other places in the middle east. and if you look at the airlines, they had not cancelled flights either. and obviously air space was open. that's something that will be questioned. and it's something that maybe when you look at the statement

that came out from the iranian military. they say they'll upgrade and reform the procedures. that might be something that the country is going to look at. it might be something that international air organizations might look at. and airlines will reform the way they do their procedure. and the question is ukrainian airlines whether or not they have the infrastructure in place internally to get that information and to make that call. those are all things i'm sure all of the entities. are probably going to be looking at. but certainly the question does need to be asked why were any flights taking off when this country was in a state of heightened alert. in the statement, the iranian military acknowledges that they were seeing a lot of activity close to the borders and seeing u.s. military planes in the sky.

clearly they were dealing with maybe not a confusing situation. one of heightened detention. >> good point. and to that point the iranian statement says numerous centers around iran reported seeing increase radar activity. which caused a heightened sensitivity. to the point that you make. and a common flight path. this was noft a common time. it makes it so fascinating. interesting point too, this is quite the apart from the foreign minister talking about american add ve adventurism. you make this good point that so many of the people on board the plane were iranian or nationals. the domestic considerations there. speak to that. how will it play out in iran? >> very important question.

you're right that domestic consideration played a huge role. in the iranians the quickly admitting they did it. for instance all the debate around mh 17 and the culprit. russia saying it it was wasn't. the two days they are coming out with a full explanation and information that you wouldn't expect from an entity. like the revolutionary guard. there are two main factors that play into the fact why the iranians admitted this fairly quickly. why they're admitting so much and you see the profuse apologies. calling this a huge mistake. and one that can't be justified. that's a big statement from iranian president. it is because so many iranians were on board. even the dual citizens a lot

were iranian and they don't recognize dual citizen ship. therefore it was i think i don't know about the exact number. it's 143. it's a will the of people who were killed. a lot of public mourning here. there's a will the of people who lost loved ones in this country. in iran and canada. who lost loved ones. it's a giant tragedy for iran. for canada and european nations as well. the other factor that is just as important, the fact that iran the shooting down of a civilian airliner is something in iran hits a major nerve. and the reason for that is that there was an iranian air lirn shot down in 1988 by a u.s. warship. and the iranians to this day feel they were badly treated by the united states in the after math of the shooting down. they feel they never received a full apology. the americans didn't handle it

well. and the information coming out wasn't that every time i am here you get confronted with that. there's films about that. a museum. where they rin the film about that. and a memorial. they talk about that and almost every or a loft public gathers in the country. it's something that really still weighs on this nation. that defines the nation. in a way they feel they were wronged by the united states and plays into that conflict. that they have with the u.s. and u.s. government. and for them to be in the situation where they are the ones that shot down a civilian airliner by mistake. they would have come under pressure if nay would have tried to hide this or not be fully transparent. about what was going on. from the very beginning, you can see while public officials were saying they didn't believe or denied that a missile could have hit plane. they didn't think that by the

way the plane came down it was hit by a missile. they did almost immediately invite ukrainians to take part in the investigation and fairly quickly invite the american national transportation and safety board. boeing saying they didn't want them then inviting them to take par in the investigation. they changed course quickly. and from what the ukrainians are saying, they were also saying that the cooperation with the iranian authorities was fairly transparent. and did get the access that they needed. that's one of the reasons why you're seeing them come out quickly and nitting it was then t. despite this is obviously an entity of the iranian military that usually uses secrecy. >> great reporting. terrific to have you there. in teheran. making the point and the statement from the armed forces general staff and it's an

important point. they say all responsible parties will immediately be identified to the judicial branch of the armed forces so that they maybe dealt with in a legal manner. let's bring in retired u.s. air force colonel. in washington. good to have you here. i'm curious it took a few days for the iranians to come to the conclusion everyone else had already reached. from your military perspective. you would imagine that the iranians would have known it was their missile. i don't know immediately. >> yes. normally missiles say obviously are loud and have quite a signature associated with them and you know when you have expended one. they knew immediately and i believe that they probably had a lot of accountability issues when they figured out it was

what happened. they were trying to i think figure out the public story. whether or not to come clean and how soon. they have done so is remarkable testimony to a perhaps a new openness with within iran. to the kind of things. the new era of accountability. that might be very important not only domestically in iran but also going forward in relationships with other countries including united states. this is certainly a potential new chapter in this kind of relationship. it's a very important one if both sides realize it. >> they probably realize that the evidence was overwhelming and couldn't deny it. for any longer. that could be the case. it's great having you on. you're the air force colonel. just speaking as a lamen, i can

track relatives flight on an app. on my phone. how is it that in the command and control structure of any nation they don't know where civilian aircraft are? >> that's a real problem. that's really excellent point. with things like flight aware of similar apps you can fwo in and figure out where relatives are flying and when the plane will land. that kind of information when these systems were built was not available to the battery operators of the missile system like this. this is a missile designed in the mid-1970s. and it's the variant the iranians have. is one that's fairly common throughout the middle east. and other parts of the world. it was certainly not built to go

through the entire flight schedule that a civilian airport would handle. that information is not as available as it should be to the crews. so what that calls for is a look at systems integration. and essence the kind of data that is available to you and i. that should be available to all the missl crews. in civilian life and can certainly handle the data in military environment. and that data integration issue is one that all militaries wrestle with in the u.s. military. i can speak from that standpoint that that was always an issue. data and make sure you understood what your people were doing as well as what an adversary was doing. and of course in a case like this you need to know what the civilian flight activity is. that really becomes critical. it's a serious flight safety

issue. a really needs to be looked at by international organizations like the international transport organization and others because this is something that will happen again if we're not careful. and we certainly want to make sure that tragedies like this are avoided in the future. >> it is interesting. you can google shooting down of civilian airliners and it's happened a lot. if you can go back to the 60s, 70s, 90s. it happens a lot. it is very worrying. again from the military standpoint give us a sense of what was going through the mind of the iranian military on the ground. i'm struck by the statement from the armed forces general staff. it's not surprising. they're saying hours after the iranian missile operation, the u.s. military flights around the

border increase. reports of aerial targets coming towards iran strategic centers. reported increase activity on radar. what would all that, that no doubt is the case. i'm sure the u.s. was patrolling up and down. what does that do to the ground? >> they are trained to understand what's going on and don't have the right intelligence then it's going to be a problem. so with these people looking at this obviously the iranian media they're listening to. and being told by commanders to be extra vigilant. so they think they're doing the right thing. and when they look at the radar scope and see the various dots representing aircraft going in and around their area. one of the things they probably didn't know or weren't aware of. perhaps the fact that when the united states uses manned

aircraft, those aircraft never go over the borders of a country that they're targeting. they have a stand off that they use and while it changes when they're active hostilities in general situations they do not cross the border. any type of activity like that would have been highly unusual approximate trained radar operator or intelligence specialist would know that's the case. the other part is i'm certain the united states patrolled the borders of iran or air space very carefully. during this period. and very extensively. some of the flights are fairly predictable. that's another thing for air crews to know as well as missl crews to know. especially in air defense units like this one. they should know the differences between what is normal and what

is abhorrent behavior. that happens with training and experience. so my suspicion is that the training was not adequate for this situation. and also that the type of behaviors they were looking at or for may not necessarily have been the behaviors that they were should have been expecting. that of course can lead to miscalculation. the other thing that's interesting skb goes back to the issue with the knowing when civilian aircraft are transiting a particular air space or area. there's certain flight profiles that should have been obvious to a crew like this. aircraft civilian aircraft taking off from an airport is very different from an aircraft that is flying at altitude. and engaging in a mission or strike mission.

those kinds of profiles should also be part of the training of any operator of battery of this type or any radar operator whether they be sifl yan or military. >> very good point. that statement talks about the aircraft coming in altitude and condition that resembled hostile target. they should have known what they were looking at. we're lucky to have your expertise. thanks so much. appreciate it. >> any time. do stay with us here. we continue our coverage of the breaking news ut of the iran. we'll be right back. it's tough to quit smoking cold turkey. so chantix can help you quit slow turkey. along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. with chantix you can keep smoking at first and ease into quitting. chantix reduces the urge so when the day arrives, you'll be more ready to kiss cigarettes goodbye.

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many western powers had already said the intelligence suggested that a missile brought down the plane. iran initially denied that. now saying they armed forces did the shoot down and said it was human error. and the foreign minister adding that it was caused by u.s. adventurism. after of course the u.s. killed that top iranian general qassem soleimani. the jet was headed to kiev, ukraine. when it crashed shortly after take off. let's go to ukraine. and cnn correspondent who is there in kiev. the initial sort of feeling by most nations was that it was a missile. it was a shoot down. this was denied by iran. they said it was a technical difficulty. or mechanical issues initially. how is this news received there?

>> it shouldn't come as massive surprise to ukrainian officials. we have reached out to them this morning to get a fresh reaction. we are waiting to hear back. yesterday when cnn spoke with the ukrainian foreign minister. he said that the possibility that this was shot down was one of many working theories. that they were trying to sus out. the u.s. and intelligence that was shared with them when it came to the possibility of a missile strike was very strong. again this shouldn't come as massive surprise. they were looking at the possibility that this could have been a bomb on board a terror attack inside. they were looking to get their hands on testing some pieces of the aircraft or chemical residue. now they know it's a strike, it shouldn't be as difficult to track down. initially there was a tug of war obviously the u.s. and canada saying this was a missile strike. iranian strongly denying that and calling it fraudulent.

calling it a big lie. and the ukrainians stuck in the middle. they have 45 people on the ground in iran trying to advance this investigation. they didn't want to come out with any conclusion too soon before they looked at the data from the black box. they were urging calm. saying the u.s. in particular if you have evidence please share with us. which clear will they did. we have been speaking with family and friends of the eleven ukrainians who were killed on the flight. nine were flight crew. you got the sense among talking to them they didn't know who to believe. especially considering that the wildly divergent views of how this could have happened. the one that i think they were united on is that there was no way that this could have been pilot error. the three pilots inside the plane had a combined three and a half years of continuous flight time on the plane.

and they didn't believe with their skill level and experience it could have been pilot error. and knew that this particular airline hadn't been any complaints when it cams to the safety of the aircraft. so in their minds this idea of a missile strike was the only possibility. >> all right. good to have you there. there in kiev in ukraine. let us know if you get call backs from the ukrainians on reaction there. let's go to florida. that is where we'll find cnn aviation analyst. great to have your expertise on the story. talking to scott there, it reminded me i read an interview with the wife of the pilot. she had been talking to her husband before the flight. and said why are you flying when there's tension all happening. and it is a simple question. when is it that civilian aircraft are told stand down in

a situation like this? iranians fired missiles and u.s. planes are patrolling the neighborhood. everyone is waiting for a reaction. and you have planes taking off from an airport. and the flight path is near sensitive military sights. >> it's a will the of really good reasons. that you just laid out. and throw in the tension the hair trigger status of the troops on the ground at these surface to air missile installations. the prudent thing to do was ground civil aircraft in the hours subsequent. think about what happened to the united states nine lem9/11. 4,500 aircraft put down. no fly zone for several days in the united states. in order to sort out the potential threats from the airliners most saflly. another question is did the

airline not act quickly enough. or dispatchers fully apprised at the situation and what happened. it was a few hours after the atake. there's blame to go around. but most of us hope this leads to better practices in the future. and these cases it seems like this was going aircraft it was not doing anything unusual. based on the radar tracks. >> i was going to ask about that. we were talking about this, the statement from iran armed forces general staff. one line in this statement -- at the time of turning the aircraft came close it a sensitive revolutionary guard center at altitude and condition of flight that resembled hostile. what do you make of that? >> doint see any evidence that made it any different from any

of the previous departures or any departure out of the airport. they have a standard departure procedure because of the terrain and the city. and the mountains. there's a psychology term that came into play in 1988. the guided missile cruiser shot down the iranian airline. it's an idea that a team of professionals highly trained in a high pressure environment who have been trained to look for and enemy targets and shoot them down. use that training as a template in a real word scenario and masking things that would tell you that things are otherwise. in other words they say what they have been training for and tend to ignore things that might tell them otherwise. in this case, maybe that came into play with the particular my sill battery. given the tensions and the truth is, if it was an enemy aircraft

of any kind they had seconds to make the decision. >> i touched on this. i'd love your thoughts. why is it that civilian air traffic movements can be found on an app but military does not know this? it's extraordinary. the guys could have had flight aware open on the iphone and seen what the plane was. >> i laugh. it's not really funny. but that is so true. we have more data and at our fingertips on laptop than that. the difference is and the disconnect between civilian air traffic control and the military are significant all throughout the world. there's a lot of potentially good reasons for that. it's a bit the world is a busy place and dangerous place. and aircraft given that the

timing of all this requires such precision. and the amount of data that would have been on the air traffic control the civilian side is like high definition television. vs. a black and white tv with rabbit ears for the surface to air missile. they don't have the visibility. and the fact there's a disconnect is extremely dangerous on a good day. >> great point. as i would expect. good to see you thank you so much. all right. we'll take a short break. lots more as we continue to follow this breaking news out of teheran. stay with us. it took plenty of work to get here. but it's still important to be prepared for what's next. at fidelity, we can help you build a clear plan for retirement without the unnecessary fees you might expect from so many financial firms. we'll make sure you can cover the essentials, as well as all the things you want to do. because when you have a retirement partner

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welcome back. we're continuing to follow praeking news out of the teheran. iran admits ukraine passenger plane was targeted and shot down by them unintentionally. thanks for be with us. that admission coming with caveats. blaming increase radar activity and fear of u.s. awe gregs for the mistake. offering apologies and condolences to victims families. but also saying human error was caused by u.s. adventurism. the crash on wednesday killed 76 people. live for us in teheran. despite the caveat of the american adventurism. it was we did it, we're sorry.

we'll hold those responsible. what's your read on how fulsome this has been from the iranian side? >> i think they are making a full admission and offering details already. i went over the statement from the ironen military. getting information from the iranian military in general is quite a difficult thing. they are a secretive organization: especially the revolutionary guard core. and take into account the fact that obviously they are a period of heightened tension with the united states. it is quite remarkable to be coming out with this much information. also of course it was probably very difficult to have kept that secret if that's something they wanted to do. they are saying there was increase activity on the radar increase u.s. flights they put it around the borders. they in general were fearing there might be a u.s. retaliation. after the irans struck military bases in iraq with a u.s. presence on it.

in general theyere in a heightened state of alert. they said that plane took off and as it was climbing, they say in the rotation phase it came into some sort of positioning where whoever the operator was of the missile battery obviously mistook it for an enemy aircraft and it was shot down. they say by human error. the iranian military said this would be a matter to deal with the ironen judicial system. and those behind it who caused this error would be held accountable and would reform procedures to ensure something like this doesn't happen again. you mention the foreign minister coming out issuing an apology. and putting in that american adventurism in there. taking a swipe at the united states. in that statement. also quite remarkable is the statement from -- he was obviously apologizing in a big

way. and he said this error that took place cannot be excused. he's being harsher on the people who were obviously operating or who were in charge of that operation that shot down the airliner. you can see the iranians with a full admission apologizing to the country who had citizen ts on board and apologizing to their nation. most of the people on the plane were dual nationals. iran doesn't recognize that. and by far the most people on the plane were iranian citizens. big tragedy for this nation and the other nations that had citizens there on board. and in general of course a giant aviation incident. now it seems the iranians are really admitting that they were behind shooting this plane down. >> absolutely. good to have you on the spot.

in teheran. let's turn to a political risk at the university and ceo of the corporate strategy firm. transformtive. joining me from denver, colorado. before we get to matters of soleimani and others. let's talk about this admission. surprising perhaps admission from iran. maybe not surprising. given the growing body of evidence that the plane was shot down. what are your thoughts? did iran run out of the deniability. >> there was video. there was radar tracks. multiple nations had offered strong evidence of this. and they had to open themselves to an investigation. the black box we don't know what it says. it's going to be fairly interesting to hear. it could well be that the pilots

knew what was about to happen. this does sometimes there are trails that can be seen. at the end of the day, the iranians admitting it should be a positive sign. it is an example of what happens when you put technology in the hands of a military that's on edge. they're in good company. let's face it. soef soviets shot down a airliner. u.s. navy shot down an airliner. rebels in ukraine shot down malation airliner. these happen and the iranians are taking responsibility. >> i was talking with someone else. you google civilian airliners shot down wi military around the world. and there have been a lot of them. it's quite concerning. back to the 1960s it was happening. let's talk about what led to the this. killing of qassem soleimani.

and we have the shifting narrative in the trump administration. that's putting it kindly. on soleimani's plans. and therefore the justification for killing him. the secretary of state mike pompeo can't say how imminent an attack was. i want to play sound and we'll talk. >> there is no doubt that there were a series of imminent attacks that were plotted by qassem soleimani. we don't know precisely when or where. it was real. >> you can't say it's imminent if you don't know when or where. it tortures the definition of the word. >> they handled lt after math incompetently. there's no doubt about that. multiple stories and briefed the media more than the party in congress.

angering many of those that republican senators. i think ultimately it fall back opt fact that soleimani is essentially ran the unit within the iran p military which is among those groups listed on the state department list of sponsors of terrorism. it could have been enough. they have entangled themselves in a series of arguments. democrats have ever reason to pursue this. in particular in han election year and trump administration is in danger of snatching defeat from a something of a victory. >> michael, i have to leave it there. i wish we had more time. i appreciate your analysis. thanks so much. >> all right. more as we continue the breaking news out of teheran. do stay with us.

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welcome, everyone. let's get you up to date on the breaking news 34678 i'm michael homes. iran now admitted it unintentional unintentionally shot down the airline wednesday.

176 people on board died. the u.s. concluded a missile hit the plane after it took off to ukraine. it came after iran had launched missiles in iraq near u.s. troops. the iranian president says he deeply regrets what he calls is a disastrous mistake. the foreign minister says human error caused by u.s. adventurism led to the disaster, and nonetheless offering profound regrets, apologies and condolences. we continue our breaking news come raj after a quick break. stay with us. i can. the two words whispered at the start of every race. every new job. and attempt to parallel park. (electrical current buzzing)

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