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welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. iowa votes three weeks from today and the attacks are getting sharper as the leading democrats prepare for a big debate right here on cnn tomorrow night. the once diverse field shrinks again. cory booker withdrew his campaign just in the last hour. plus president trump says he never saw intelligence getting
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upset over him speaking to ukraine about an investigation. >> this is what our founders established and he's disloyal to his oath of office. every knock from him is a boost and everything he says about somebody else is a projection. >> back to that in a moment, but we begin with another 2020 campaign exit in the democratic race that is suddenly getting very testy. the candidate bowing out is one who constantly warned against such a democratic family feud, new jersey senator cory booker. he told supporters in an email last hour he could not raise enough money to remain viable, especially since his poll numbers were too low to get debate invitations. in a pospeech a short time ago,e
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promised to help democrats down the road. >> today i'm suspending my campaign with the same spirit as it began. it is my faith in us, my faith in us as a nation. i can't wait to get ak back on campaign trail. i will campaign as hard as i can for whoever is the eventual nominee. >> the democratic debate is tomorrow night here on cnn. candidates clearly see this as a moment to ignore cory booker's advice but instead sharpen their tactics. though the candidate says he knew nothing about it, sanders volunteers now using a script to tell voters elizabeth warren is the candidate of the affluent and someone who cannot, in the sanders' campaign's view, bring a democratic voter to the tent. >> i was disappointed to hear that bernie is sending his
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volunteers out to trash me. democrats want to win in 2020. we all saw the impact of the factualism in 2016, and we can't have a repeat of that. >> we have hundreds of employees. elizabeth warren has hundreds of employees, and people sometimes say things that they shouldn't. you have heard me give many speeches. have i ever said one negative word about elizabeth warren? >> cnn's jeff zeleny joining us live from des moines. a big subject on the eve of the deba debate. bernie sanders was working hard on the eve before in iowa. where do you see his voters going? >> senator booker leaving the race. he started early out here and he built an organization of loyal followers. polls don't reflect everything. polls don't always reflect the actual full support.
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he had some loyal, committed supporters. yes, they were small in number. the question is, who does that benefit? the calls i've been making in the last hour since this news became public is probably scattered around a bit. just anecdotally speaking, i spoke to one supporter of senator booker. she said, i'm going to reluctantly support elizabeth warren, another one said i'm going to support amy klobuchar. if booker decides not to endorse, which we don't know if he's going to or not, he's not given any indication of that, it's likely his supporters will scatter, his organizers may as well. john, he likely wouldn't have been on the debate stage tonight. this is not your normal debate. this is the final stop before the iowa caucuses. this is the night for candidates to move and have a potential breakout moment. he did not make the debate stage. so by all intents and purposes, he was already likely going to be struggling. so it eliminates one thing, that
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second choice fight on caucus night will be eliminated in some respect. other democrats have already said who they like as second choice, so there is scattering going on. the bernie sanders/joe biden collision course on foreign policy certainly fascinating front and center here as well as the progressive fight between warren and sanders. amy klobuchar, of course, look for her to potentially try and go after everyone to make her move here. john, three weeks from tonight, this move finally gets underway. it's pretty unsettled with pete buttigieg also in the top four. no one knows who is going to win. john? >> couldn't be more clear on that point, no one knows. jeff zeleny, i appreciate the live reporting. with me in the studio to show
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their reporting skpin and insights, seung min kim, olivier kn knox, laura lopez and kaitlan collins. if you only have three or four people in the polls, they're good iowa caucus organizers, people who can help you in the room on caucus night. in the next 24 hours, it will be pretty fierce trying to get them. >> cory booker seemed to be one that could pull off a surprise on caucus night. he started earlier and had racked up endorsements. that was just not materializing and polls don't reflect everything, but they weren't given an indication whether or not that could happen for him. he was in the latest poll polling below andrew yang. so a lot of people will be
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making the case to his top endorsers to try to get them on their side. as jeff was pointing out, the second choice really matters in iowa, and when i talk to voters in the state, they always butt up his name kind of below the second or third choice. he was never the top choice for anyone. it will be interesting to see where those people who were sort of considering him kind of end up in all of this. >> we began this campaign -- it seems like a long time ago -- but with a giant field and historically diverse field. now a hip scene, senator kamala harris, senator cory booker, julian castro, some of the more diverse candidates leaving. the stage tomorrow night will be bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, pete buttigieg and amy klobuchar. make a difference? they are the party who says we are the home of african-american voters. we are increasingly the home of latino voters. we are increasingly the home of
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american asians as well. >> it certainly is a point for the democratic party to make, because you're right, it started with a historically diverse field, now we're dwindling down. we lost the first black woman, we lost cory booker, julian castro. you can blame it on the debate polling standards or you could blame it on a burchl nch of oth things, but i think it will start a discussion that has already started about the caucus process. you heard julian castro say, why should iowa and new hampshire be first in the caucus race, and mike bloomberg said he was going to start with the american population that was more selective. we'll get to iowa and new hampshire, but i think this will start a broader conversation in the democratic field. >> sanders is very consistent, both in his positions, but if
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you go through the rhythm of the 2016 campaign and rhythm of this campaign, he waits, he waits, he waits, and as it's closer to voting, he gets sharper. you may have experience, joe, your judgment on iraq, your judgment on nafta, things like that. the candidate says he knew nothing about it. he's the candidate. he's the ceo of the operation. he says he knew nothing about this script where voters are knocking on doors and essentially saying, elizabeth warren, she's the candidate of rich people and can't bring in new voters like bernie sanders can. i guess it will be in the debate tomorrow night. we'll see how they handle it. if you look in iowa and ask voters this whole second choice question. elizabeth warren is take offense. 34% listed elizabeth warren as their second choice. if she can turn this attack to her benefit and say, you come my way. among warren supporters, it's
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more diverse when you ask who is the second support. you have these two progressive candidates, so you're for one or the other, but your second choice is likely the other one. >> elizabeth warren, referring to 2016, a direct reference to the hillary part of the party blaming bernie in part for her loss. >> it also comes at a time where elizabeth warren is trying to project herself as a unity candidate, so the fact sanders is going after her really does help her keep making that projection on what her campaign is trying to do. looking at whether or not these candidates are going to turn it back on bernie sanders, we'll see tomorrow night, because so far in debates we really haven't seen other candidates going after bernie sanders in the way that he's gone after them. >> and note they did not dispute the authenticity of that script. they say they didn't know about it, but they never said, this isn't true or we weren't doing this. i don't think the attack of elizabeth warren will be able to
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appeal to a broad swath of voters about donald trump, and that's why you see their campaign respond so forcefully, because they don't want that to become the narrative. they, of course, deny that is her problem, but you see bernie sanders and joe biden make pretty similar attacks on her. >> no offense to senator booker, but he kept saying, this should be a campaign of love, we should all get along. it doesn't work that way. it doesn't work that way when you get closer and closer to the election. warren and sanders overstate their friendship. they certainly agree on most of the issues. they've been eyeing each other competitively for quite some time. in the end, the huffington post, warren shows teeth 21 days until iowa, sanders surges bern ing!
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>> the rhetoric is the closing argument, iowa is looming. everyone can hear the clock ticking. i don't know whether he knew about it, i don't know where that buck ceases to be passed. it's another piece of the way he has structured his final push toward iowa. >> it's one thing for campaign staffers to do it and surrogates to do it in op-eds, but if he does it on the debate stage, that will tell the strategy and the voters he's willing to pick off from warren. >> three weeks today is the iowa caucus, the senators are on the debate stage tomorrow night. we'll get to that story a little later as impeachment jurors. the last debate for the first votes in iowa right here on cnn. that's right here tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. up next, the buck stops here
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the british royal family trying to put on a united front today after the duke and duchess announce they are moving away from the royal family. the queen said, quote, my family and i are entirely supportive of harry and meghan's desire to create a new life as a young family. although we would have preferred them to remain full-time working members of the royal family, we respect and understand their wish to live a more independent life as a family while remaining a valued part of my family. can you break this down for us, max? >> reporter: the queen refers to them as harry and meghan when
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she would normally call them the duke and duchess of sussex. i think that reflects, really, we're talking about two different things here. they are members of the family but they are also working royals. she says, i would have preferred them to remain full-time working members of the royal family, so she clearly appealed to them to stay within the fold, suggesting that the sussexes disagreed with that. what we know are that on the table were various different options for future roles put together by palace officials, and they were presented to the sussexes. we were expecting some agreement on one of the roles, and that perhaps will be announced tonight. there hasn't been any announcement, and the queen says she wants a final decision within the coming days. so there hasn't been a resolution here. that does not mean there is an impasse. i don't think we can reach that into the statement, quite, but it's not an ideal statement the palace would normally be coming out with right now. it does seem they are digging in
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their heels for the sussexes to leave as members of the royal family. >> thank you for your reporting. let's bring in commontator victoria arbor. >> what struck me the most was the tone about it, particularly coming from the queen. this is built on formality and tradition, so the fact she's referring to them as harry and meghan suggests that perhaps these are two people that will step aside and become private citizens. there has been no talk of them losing their titles. the key that needed to be addressed was funding, and this statement does address the fact that harry and meghan are very keen not to continue with public funding. with that comes a number of constraints they're keen to strip away. i think there is a sense of
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sadness in this statement as well. the queen is not just serving as head of state and head of nation but also as a grandmother, and she's always enjoyed a particularly close relationship with prince harry. so suggestions tonight, i think this meeting went well, but there is still an awful lot that needs to be ironed out. >> correct, and it does say, therefore, there will be a period of time in which the sussexes will spend some time in canada and the usa. coming up, some how else democrats getting antsy waiting to find out who will prosecute the case against the president in the senate. look, this isn't my first rodeo...
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all eyes on the house speaker nancy pelosi as she prepares to send the articles of impeachment over to the senate over a month after she proposed to impeach the president. the democrats are in the dark over who pelosi will choose to be the impeachment managers. one democrat says, everyone is going crazy as they wait to find out that important decision. publicly they are hoping for a trial with new witnesses and new documents. listen. >> dismissing is a cover-up. if they want to go that route again, the senators who are
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thinking now about voting for witnesses or not, they will have to be accountable for not having a fair trial. they take an oath to have a fair trial, and we think that would be with witnesses and documentation. now the ball is in their court to either do that or pay a price for not doing it. >> at the white house, the man who will be on trial calling for what sounds like just the opposite of what the speaker wants. the president tweeting, it's an impeachment hoax, and he suggests he agrees with those who want a, quote, outright dismissal. that's what he calls for in that tweet. laura ingraham the other day says he wants witnesses, like joe biden and the whistleblower. >> he has called for the exact opposite for that in the past saying he does want witnesses,
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he just wants a vindication of him, and now he says he just wants it over quickly. the big question his defense team will be facing now is whether or not they are going to have these witnesses. the president making pretty clear if john bolton does get subpoenaed, if that does somehow get to where that's an actual reality, they are going to try to block his testimony. it obviously prompts the question, would john bolton ignore a directive from the white house not to speak? so it's unclear, but the president has been essentially fuming about this for several days now. it's been a long time since he's been impeached, and essentially they're waiting to see exactly what's going to happen as they've been doing the work behind the scenes. >> we've been waiting four weeks now. several important things are going to happen and happen quickly after this wait. speaker pelosi will announce the managers. we expect that tomorrow. then the articles of impeachment will be sent to the senate as well as the managers.
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the chief justice has to be sworn in. the chief justice sets the initial rules for the trial and then in a formal procedure, the senate sends a summons to the legal team, inviting them to the procedure. if the house sends them over on wednesday night, it is possible mcconnell starts the procedural stuff, senate majority leader mcconnell, this week. we don't expect the substantive part after the martin luther king holiday, but they could seat them. this could happen fast. >> the articles calls for this to start pretty quickly, and they say by basically the latest, at 1:00 p.m. the next day the trial has to begin. so you have to think about all the things that have to occur before the trial begins. first of all, the senate has to adopt that resolution, those parameters of a trial the senators have been fighting for for quite some time, the one
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mcconnell said he had 51 votes for. you mentioned once there is a summons issued to the president, there will be an opportunity for them to file some sort of a legal brief, legal response. that will be the first time that we see some sort of a detailed response as part of a trial for the president. so there is a lot of things going on, but you're right, the meat of the trial, the opening arguments and the questions won't start for some time. i think that's why the president insisting now a motion to dismiss is not going to go anywhere aside -- just aside from the fact that he switched on it a lot. senators want the semblance of a substantive trial. you need opening arguments, you need questions to make that happen. >> and if they did -- some republican senators who do want to bring a motion to dismiss, they won't need to vote, in part because you have susan collins
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saying she wants a fair trial. she says she wants witnesses and she wants an agreement for witnesses in the initial senate resolution, which is counter to her leader. >> i am working with a group of republican senators and our leaders to see if we can come to an agreement on some language that would be in the initial resolution setting out the parameters of the trial in the senate that would include an opportunity for the house to call witnesses and the president's counsel to also call witnesses. >> leader mcconnell, who runs a pretty tight ship, has said, let's have a trial and we'll have questions from senators, and then, and only then, like they did in clinton impeachment trial, will they decide whether to have witnesses. susan collins thinks she wants the agreement in the initial
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resolution. can she get four or five republican congressmen to release it? >> i think collins will prevail because of the 24-hour argument spread over three days, spread over three days, a list of questions. they can't actually ask the questions, they have to write them down. then in 1999, they said it was time for witnesses and then they took that out. then they argued about the rules for that. so i think mcconnell is probably more likely to previlail just o precedent. >> the words susan collins said in that brief interview is i will not get what i want. i'm not sure how much leverage she has here, but we're going to ask her later today what she's
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to the iran crisis now beginning with another day of mass protests. protests in the street with some yelling, clerics get lost. after their initial denial that
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iran shot down the ukranian jet, they were accepting of it. >> the protests are spreading to the north and the west of the country, perhaps, more than a dozen cities right now. gunshots have been fired, people in the crowd have been hit with live rounds of ammunition. bandages have been called for. people have been seen bleeding on the streets. the regime is saying, hold on, we're not firing live rounds, we're only firing tear gas. the images and the shouts and screams of the people involved in this protest, i think, tell an entirely different story. people are angry that the leadership didn't ground civilian jets and save the potential loss of life that's happened. people are also very skeptical about what they're hearing for the leadership. the leadership is saying, they're sorry, it was an accident. one military commander said, in fact, it was the worst day of his life and he wished he had been on the plane. but all of this sort of contrition for the leadership
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isn't what's playing out on the streets. iran's regime is putting down these protests like they put down protests in the past, and they seem to be getting bloodier. we know this evening there are a large number of rare police out on the streets of tehran, john. >> nic robertson, we appreciate your reporting. the administration's revolving answer of why it struck to take out that iranian general. they said qassem soleimani was planning an imminent attack on the american embassy. friday night embassy, singular, became embassies, plural. the president's defense secretary saying the intelligence showed no such thing. >> he didn't cite a specific piece of evidence, what he said was he probably, he believed --
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>> are you saying there wasn't one? >> i didn't see one with regard to four embassies. >> a major moment of global significance. you would think the administration would get its story together. the defense secretary saying, i believe there would have been embassy attacks, but he never saw it specifically in the intelligence. why? >> and it was really stunning to see esper repeatedly frame, essentially saying, well, the president wasn't citing intelligence when he made that claim. that was the president saying there were these four embassies targeted, and that was not the message you saw o'brien, the national security adviser, saying. he actually alluded to four embassies. so you're getting two messages from two of the top security aides. it was about who they notified beforehand, the authority they had to do this without congress and pompeo was the first to say
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it was an imminent attack. he said that the day after the strike. the president echoed it later in the day. and now the president is saying, yes, it was imminent, but it doesn't matter because he was a bad guy. there are people raising questions about, why is this going all over the place? why are we getting shifting stories about this over several days? >> i understand some of this is classified. one of the president's favorite words to say, we did this because we had proof. >> we had exquisite intelligence, and the intelligence showed that they were looking at u.s. facilities throughout the region and that they wanted to inflict casualties on american soldiers, sailors and marines as well as diplomats. the threat was imminent. i saw the intelligence. i would love to have the
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intelligence out there. now, unfortunately, if we did declassify, we could end up using that stream allowing us to protect americans going forward, so we can't -- >> they can't but they can in the sense that no one is asking them to give up sources and methods. there is a way to be more specific about actual targets and to make that distinction. you know, we have information on a meeting that they mentioned as a possibility. they could be more specific without burning methods. >> if you say you plan to attack this embassy with this type of weapon, you're giving the other type information. soleimani was clearly a bad actor who was targeting americans. that's not in question. they've been more or less consistent on the idea that there were a range of targets throughout the region, but the timing has gone all over the place. we had the joint chairman chief saying we don't know exactly
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where or when. it's been a roller koelscoaster figure out why they took this action unless you fell back on the fact that he was in their sights and you decided to take him out. >> the president wants other nations to back away from the nuclear deal, and you see france and russia putting out a call saying, no, their view is they would like to stay right there. when you have political problems, it is hard to get other people to do what you want them to do. today some sadness. two paratroopers killed in a roadside bomb in afghanistan. they were killed friday in kandahar province when their vehicle was hit by a dmv. more! but with the new lending
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we all know from much experience the president's twitter feed doubles as a window into his daily mindset. this morning, for starters, the president lied to you, including the democratic lawmakers are mourning, or trying to make soleimani into a wonderful guy.
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he tweeted an image of pelosi wearing a hijab and schumer wearing a turban. he retweeted it with this picture. i've asked numerous times because i'm the idiot. why? >> who wants to tackle that one? >> there are many ways to make your point than to argue policy with those you oppose. he believes -- this is a reelection year. there is plenty of history and facts and data and focus groups and polling that shows this type of behavior is what hurt his party in the 2018 midterms, especially the repudiation of trump in suburban america. he thinks if he's at the top of the ballot it will all be different ask this -- and this okay?
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>> when he sees, after this strike on soleimani, that it's going to get him praise, it's going to be a universally well-liked thing, the president instead sees this, and his reaction is not, when they're questioning the timing and who approved this and who saw it beforehand, he thinks they're criticizing him for killing soleimani. the question is why didn't you come to congress about this, but the president in his mind can't separate the two. he thinks he's being criticized by going after this terrorist, which he's not by anyone, i don't think. i don't think anyone is saying soleimani shouldn't have been killed, that he wasn't a bad actor, as you called it. >> it makes america less safe by escalating confrontation in the middle east. some have raised the question, could it make america more unsafe. that's a debate the president
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could engage in if he wants to, but you do not need to include mutilated corpses and pictures of the democratic senate in a way that would offensive to them as well as muslims around the world. >> you also don't have to mock a gold star family. you don't have to mock a reporter's disability. you don't have to mock journalists both individually and as a class. there is more continuity here than there is a break, and sometimes when i see these tweets, i joke, whose house did the fbi raid today? if you look across his presidency, look across his campaign, this is how he talks, this is how he communicates. one of the things people don't like about it is it injects a lot of uncertainty, a lot of chaos, and this is supposed to be an island of control, and it's sowing uncertainty, doubts and anger, and it's not just him
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but other republicans. >> just to jump in, the response we have from senator chuck schumer who, again, we told you the president retweeted a posting in which senator schumer was in a turban, he quotes two questions. mr. president, how low can you go? and republicans, how long can you cover up for and defend the president's actions? >> and he doesn't let up on it, and another one we saw this morning was his insistence that he will be the person that protects preexisting conditions, when he was responding to mayor plo bloomberg and his attack on him about health care. he failed to repeal the care t
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lightning rod including former mayor bloomberg who is running for the democratic nomination. this is what he said criticizing the role of the early states.
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the first two voting states, iowa and new hampshire, are among the most homogeneous in the nation. while it's great that candidates reach out to voters in these states at every pancake breakfast and town hall around, what about african-american, latino, asian american, pacific islanders, and other voters in places like detroit, montgomery, phoenix and houston? >> they've gotten used to it, and i suppose the democratic party shouldn't take it away. i campaigned in those four states, and i can tell you there was a cross-section of variety. they were smart, they asked the right questions, they were politically astute, and i thought to myself, this is a pretty good system for those four states. >> i was with michael bloomberg in ohio when he said that, and it was jarring even then because
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his campaign manager just a few hours ago had talked to reporters and said the exact opposite. so now they're pushing out this op-ed that reflects what the campaign has been saying, that they don't think the first four states reflect a diversity of the country. but what they're saying they're consistent on is that it's up to the democratic party to change the rules and obviously not up to them. they've been consistent on that front. >> okay. >> the parties should change the rules. >> he's doing it by a suggestion of the order of the primaries. >> he was one of the candidates who was banking at a biden collapse or something. he joined in the later states hoping there is some kind of opening. another late entry into the race is duval patrick who find himself the only other
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african-american in the race. >> i worked to make more businesses fair and socially responsible and delivered first in the nation results as the only democratically elected governor in massachusetts in 30 years. >> that will run the night of the iowa debate, tomorrow night. in the school of ruling nothing out, deval patrick, did he come in much too late? >> it is a shame he didn't get in earlier because he has a stellar resume, he has enough to run on. if you can't make it to the debate stage, you're left out of so much of the national conversation that i don't know running one added would do. maybe he does make traction in new hampshire, he does come from a neighboring state, but all the focus will be on those half dozen candidates who get that national exposure tomorrow night and subsequent nights.
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>> the last few years have been so up and down. i'm going to enter a spelling bee. i hope i get "homogeneous." thank you for joining us. brianna keilar starts right now. have a great day. i'm brianna keilar live from cnn's washington headquarters. underway right now. a big week begins, impeachment, iran and iowa, and now president trump is against having a senate trial to decide his fate. an intel struggle led to a deadly strike on an irani general. bernie sanders and his campaign are feuding with not one, but two, rivals. and the royal crisis gets a royal summit. why meghan markle called into the ee

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