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bonus question -- should your answer depend on your political party? answer -- no. my second observation is that i actually think it's very instructive to watch the old videos from the last time this happened, when many of you were making so eloquently -- more eloquently than we are the points we are making about the law and precedent. but that's not playing a game of gotcha. that's paying you a compliment. you were right about those principles. you were right about those principles. and if you won't listen to me, i would urge you to listen to your younger selves. you were right. and the third observation in sitting here today judge starr talked about we are in the age of impeachment.
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in the age of constant investigations. imagine -- imagine if all of that energy was being used to solve the problems of the american people. imagine if age of impeachment was over in the united states. imagine that. and i was listening to professor dershowitz talk about the shoe on the other foot rule, and it makes a lot of sense. i would maybe put it differently. i would maybe call it the golden rule of impeachment. for the democrats the golden rule could be do unto republicans as you would have them do undto democrats. and hopefully we will never be in a position in this country where we have another
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impeachment and vice versa for that rule. those are my three observations. i hope that's helpful. those were the thoughts that i had list took the presentations. but at the end of the day the most important thought is this. this choice belongs to the american people. they will get to make it months from now. the constitution and common sense and all of our history prevent you from removing the president from the ballot. there's no basis for it in the facts. there's simply no basis for it in the law, and i would urge you to quickly come to that conclusion so we can go have an election. thank you very much for your attention. and thank you, mr. chief justice. >> majority leader is recognized. >> mr. chief justice, i ask unanimous consent that the trial adjourn until 1:00 p.m. tuesday, january 28th. and this order also constitute
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the adjournment of the senate. >> without objection we are adjourned. >> all right, everybody, i'm chris cuomo. the trump team finishing for the day. they'll continue more tomorrow. some of the big headlines from today you all know about this talk about bolton and whether or not he'll come in her his manuscript will come in, but a big part of the defense strategy today was taking on the bidens. now they all say that the door was opened for them, but those rules don't apply here. they went after the bidens, made them part of the case. and now the question becomes, well, what happens next with witnesses? they have one more day here, questions from the senators through the chief justice, and then what? now, we got a glimpse of it there at the end about how the white house counsel feels this is supposed to go. let's discuss with the panel we have amassed tonight perfect for this. so jeffrey toobin, when you take
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a look how this went today, high points, low points? >> three big events today. first of all "the new york times" scoop in the morning with john bolton's book which is as explosive as expected apparently says that the president agreed to or initiated a quid pro quo that he held the aid for ukraine in return for dirt on the bidens. >> direct evidence directly from the president. >> it's the evidence that is crucial to the case, which of course raises the issue of whether he will be a witness. the second big event of the day was the attack on the bidens that came from two of the president's lawyers where i thought they certainly made hunter biden look very bad, the fact hunter biden was hired for a job he was unqualified for, for the only reason he was the vice president's son. it certainly looks bad. however, they also completely
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distorted the facts about joe biden's behavior. the accusations against joe biden don't stand up to scrutiny. finally at the end of the day we have alan dershowitz who gave the senators who want to get rid of this case an off-ramp because he basically said, look, even if everything the articles are true -- if everything the house managers say is true it's still not an impeachable offense, so you don't have to hear anymore witnesses. that is an argument that will certainly be used to try to get rid of the whole witness issue when it comes up later this week. >> and carl, that's what they want people to think about even if they want bolton to testify. even if the president did everything they think he did, it wasn't wrong. >> that's their ultimate argument but they're still looking for a way not to have witnesses. i thought the relevant point of the day was the senate chaplain
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quoting jesus at the beginning saying you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. and he said it in almost an admonishing way. and all along the republican senators have been saying we have no first-hand witness, we have no ability to find the truth. there's now a first-hand witness, there's an ability to know the truth. that's what today was all about. mitch mcconnell now is in a little bit of a bind. we know that he is trying to get the republicans to hold back, not to say publicly we want witnesses. he wants this to go away perhaps. he was totally blind-sided, i'm told. he had no idea this was coming, the bolton bombshell. and unprepared for it, but he thinks that as in the kavanaugh hearings that maybe if they just don't go too far-out front he can keep this thing holding his
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reins. but back to the chaplain, the truth is what counts here. >> we assume the defense would stay away from bolton. let someone else do it and hopefully it never happens. but dershowitz mentioned it a little bit. i want to play it and get your take how it fits into the mix here. let's play it. >> nothing in the bolton revelations even if true would rise to the level of an abuse of power or an impeachable offense. >> how does that play to you? >> even if true are the operative words saying ven if the president did this which all the evidence suggests it did happen now we have confirmation from bolton it was impeachable and in fact there's nothing wrong with it, they keep saying zelensky wasn't pressured. let's use common sense, of course zelensky is going to say
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he wasn't pressured. he's going to say anything to get aid from the united states when he's in the middle of a hot war. but allen dershowitz saying let's give an example of israel and if we all of a sudden with hold aid from israel because they continue to build settlements, that's a quid pro quo and that's exactly what's playing out. well, it's not. every issue we've had so far has always involved congress. money appropriated by congress has had a president respond to congress if there is in fact an issue he wants to hold up aid for. so none of that was parallel to what is going on now, but it's an example of him saying even if the president did what he's accused of it's not impeachable and it's not a big deal and it's happened before. >> a key fact also is if you want to play hypotheticals, which again with all due respect with the trade of lawyering you
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use hypotheticals when the best set of facts aren't here for you. you have to imagine and build in imagine if the president went to israel and said, oh, i'll give you the money but first you have to help me with this thing in my election. we would have never gone through this process. so the idea of dershowitz laying out this case even if it all happens, it means nothing, how much weight do you think that has for senators? >> it may have some substantial weight for senators because it sounds good and because it gives them a fig leaf they can hide behind and say, well, you know, this great a harvard professor buse of power is not an impeachable offense, therefore we don't have to think about whether we need to remove the president. very quickly i want to offer a different lesson in constitutional law, cut to the chase here. basically the president of the united states is obliged under the constitution when he enforces the law either to do it
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pursuant to congress or by the constitution. when president trump according to john bolton and every other witness who's testified took action in order to get an announcement made about the bidens he was not following congressional policy and he was not following the constitution. therefore that's an abuse of power. an abuse of power is exactly what impeachment was designed to dress. >> alan dearthwits to his credit said his own view was very much a minority view. to his discredit the reason it's a minority view is because he's wrong. it's because the idea that you can only impeach a president because he committed an actual crime or as he says a criminal-like behavior, which i don't even know what that means. but as professor garhart abuse of power, obstruction of congress are impeachable
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offenses and that's why we're here because these are legitimately impeachable. >> hold on one second, i want to get in a quick break and we'll tee up a couple of things that come back just for context here. we're going to go to the senate and we have phil ma mattingly there and he's going to tell us how this is playing. and a second big development that happened in this argument. the president's defense team wants you to believe that rudy giuliani is rudy who? rudy what? he's another coffee boy. i guess he's an espresso boy. why would they argue that? they argued it big time with arguably the president's best lawyer on the staff. we'll take you through both why it happened, what it means next. with advil, you have power over pain, so the whole world looks different. the unbeatable strength of advil. what pain? when they bundle home and auto with progressive.
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by taking metamucil every day. take the metamucil two-week challenge, lighten up. just take metamucil every day for two weeks. available at your local retailer. so the president's team tried to put their best foot forward today. how did it impact those in the senate especially the gop senators who might be in play? let's go to phil mattingly on capitol hill. what are you hearing? >> at the end of alan dershowitz's presentation more than a dozen senators walked up to shake his hand including senator mcconnell say wonderful to dershowitz. the senate gop conference right now is in a different place than they were this morning. i'm told they were very unsettled by the bolton revelations "the new york times" broke last night. senator mcconnell had not been looped in on the manuscript
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before it was put out by "the new york times." a rather terse statement i think was pointed for a reason and here's why. i'm told behind the scenes several republican senators made calls to the white house out of frustration saying, look, we need to know ability these things and we feel like we were left out of the loop. several republican members voiced their concerns about where things were headed. they were so unsettled in fact one republican senator pat toomey raised an opinion pinging around the republican conference for the past couple of beaks. basically if we're going to get to the point where witnesses are going to be pursued we need to do a one-to-one exchange. but here's the reality mcconnell and top republicans still do not want witnesses and still believe they can defeat that vote that will happen after the white house presentation and senator questions. what mcconnell told senators in that closed door meeting i'm told is this, hear the white
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house out and wait for your senator questions before you make any definitive statements on next steps. the reality is two republican senators, mitt romney and susan collins made clear today they are closer than they've ever been to voting to pursue witnesses. republicans can afford to lose three. as of now that third and fourth is not quaite apparent. the fourth senator or fifth or sixth has still not been identified. that's what democrats were pushing for. but at this point in time there's been no break out of republican senators, and mcconnell's advice and mcconnell's warning to senators has been the same. you don't want to prolong this trial, you don't any new precedent, stay away from witnesses. we'll see if that holds in the days ahead. >> it'll be interesting to see if they go from 3 or 4 gop senators and jumps to 8. phil, thank you. anything else you hear just quickly get in my ear i'll come
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right back to you. so let's think about how this plays now. that's the republican side. how about the other side? paul, now the idea of where this day started -- asha rangappa, good to see you. and where's the play for witnesses is. >> i think the senators are making a gamble that nothing more will come out. and it's a terrible bet. more will come. the bolton bombshell is not the last. i don't have any special knowledge, but i've been through this before. okay, if something exists, it is going to come out, i promise. and so these republicans are betting there are no other shoes to drop. and let me tell you, they are living in a closet there's so many shoes. they're going to have to bet their career that there's no
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more information that's going to come out if they vote against witnesses. that is very bad bet. >> now in terms of what else could happen they may have created a potential problem for them going forward. jamie raskin by all accounts great lawyer, fundamentally important during this russia probe, she made an argument today about rudy giuliani and what he means in all this or in fact does not mean that may have some heavy implications. listen to this. >> mr. giuliani is just a minor player. that shiny object designed to distract you. senators, i urge you most respectfully, do not be distracted. >> a minor player? >> qyeah, that took to use a legal term a lot of footspa, but
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rudy giuliani she made kind of a joke of how often his name came up during the house managers presentation. >> yeah, the call between the two presidents. >> yeah, that's right. >> they didn't make his name out of the phone book. he comes up because everyone is reacting to his behavior over the course of the months leading up to and after the july 25th phone call. he is the person who is pushing the president to pressure the ukrainian president into doing this investigation or announcing the investigation. so, you know, i thought jane raskin's presentation sort of bold but it was thin on evidence and brief. again i think it was an opportunity to give an argument to the republicans if they want to use it, but she didn't have a lot of facts. >> joe, let me bring you in here quickly. first of all, i don't know how rudy giuliani is going to take this. but when the president was speaking to the man he says he doesn't know, lev parnas in
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great detail about the plan he said he knew nothing about. he said i wouldn't have said that. rudy giuliani's at the centerf all of this. what is the play and what's the potential down side? >> you had ken starr relitigating 20 years ago and what his role was, but the raskin presentation was maybe the most bizarre in saying rudy is just a bit player in this. you know, she also said he wasn't trying to dig up dirt on joe biden. i seem to remember one chris cuomo asking him that question and on television rudy saying i was trying to dig up dirt. it's bizarre and, you know, it just goes to this sort of sense that if they say it enough times that their base will believe it and maybe some other people will believe it and that, you know, truth is dead. >> well, i'll tell you what,
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look, again the reason i brought it up in this context of what else may come, rudy giuliani has a lot of pride. and big aspect of his pride is what he has done for this president. and to hear himself call nothing by the president's legal team i wonder how he's going to take that. but just so you all remember how clearly untrue this suggestion is from ms. raskin. and again all respect to ms. raskin, by all accounts a formidable attorney. the idea rudy didn't look for dirt on biden, we went through right here in painful detail. here's a taste. so you did ask ukraine to look into joe biden? >> of course i did. >> so -- >> let me pick up on where paul left off and it goes right to giuliani and what this is about in realtime, extortion, that
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behavior and a kind of bribe. exactly what alan dershowitz was saying today, he kept saying, well, if the crime is akin to, well that's what we're looking at -- something that is akin to. and i think dershowitz has opened up a door particularly for democrats to walk right through and exploit and say this is exactly what dershowitz was talking about, extortion, bribery. that's what the president did. that's what giuliani participated in. >> and don't forget every fact witness said they were told talk to rudy. >> zelensky brought him up, the president said he was a great mayor in america, you can trust him. i don't get where they were going with that but here's another thing it reveals. what you guys have been calling out throughout this process of boy they really abused the facts here, and boy they're really wrong about that, that may all be revisited by the questions by the senators through the chief
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all right, calls for witnesses, that's what it seems to be about at this point. the top house democrat majority leader steny hoyer says they will consider bringing in john bolton if the senate doesn't. now, what does that do to the state of play? let's discuss with democratic senator chris van hollen. thanks for joining usch. >> good to be with you, chris. >> your take after today, you feel differently? >> i feel more strongly than ever that the president's case is number one all over the map. as you were all talking we have the great shrinking role of rudy giuliani who was a featured star in the joule 25th call and now is a bit player. you have ken starr who is on every other side of the issue now than he was just a little while back. but most of all you have republicans digging in on this key factual question, denying
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that the president was involved in withholding military aid to ukraine and withholding a white house visit until they did these political favors for them. and that just highlights the need to call a john bolton especially after these revelations that we're hearing about what's in his book. so they just made the case today for the importance of additional witnesses. in my view there's already a mountain of evidence on the issue of quid pro quo. but if there's anyone still doubting that, they just made the case for calling witnesses and getting documents. >> and your brothers and sisters on the right, republican side of the aisle suggesting that to you? >> well, no more than you've already reported. we've heard that susan collins and mitt romney are talking about it. there are some others that are thinking about it. we still haven't gotten that magic number of four senators. but i do think it's getting harder by the day because we
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don't know what more is going to come out. every day, every other day more information comes out, and they are going to look increasingly like they're, you know, part of the effort to rig the trial. that's what their votes on opening day indicated. the question is what will happen when we get to the moment of truth a few days from now when they have another opportunity to vote for witnesses and documents, and if that passes, who will will that be? >> answer your own question for me in this context and i'll let you go. i know it's been a long night. it happens you get the 6 or 4 and maybe you get some 8. and you say great we want bolton and they say great, we want joe biden. now, do you feel that might be worth what might happen if joe biden takes the stand? >> we're not going to get into judicial -- >> but you won't have control of it, senator. once you say you want one, it's up to them. >> here's what i propose. i'm planning as of now to renew
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the amendment i proposed on opening night, which is to allow the chief justice of the united states to make that decision. just like the trial a judge does in courtrooms every day all over the country. if you wanted partial justice, that is the fair way to do it. and so if republicans vote against that a second time at tis stage in the trial they will be telling america they do not want an impartial trial. let them make the case to chief justice roberts why they want the bidens or anybody else. we will make the case why mulvaney's a fact witness, blaire's a fact witness and why the documents are relevant. so that is the way to have this decided if you truly want an impartial trial. and i at this point in time plan on renewing that motion. >> all right, it went down in a straight party line vote the first time -- >> that's when mcconnell had everybody lined up in advance to say no. if we have the vote to allow witnesses and documents, this is
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the fairest way to resolve which witnesses and what documents. >> i hear the case. we'll see how it plays. senator van hollen, thank you. >> good to be with you. all right, so where's this headed after today? are witnesses more likely, why, why not? and that back and forth with van hollen, what happens if there are enough votes for witnesses and the republicans get to pick theaters? do you really think the chief justice will police what the republican senators want? we'll discuss it next.
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all right, the bolton headline from this morning has grown not just in its significance but in its substance, okay? more information, breaking news from "the new york times" and it's two pronged. first "the times" says bolton's book claims he privately told the attorney general barr last year he was worried about president trump in effect granting personal favors to autocratic leaders in turkey and china. there's more. and it's two prongs. "the times" report says barr
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responded by pointing to doj inquiries of companies in those countries. and barr supposedly said to bolton he worried that the president was creating an appearance that he had undue influence over what should be independent investigations. what does all that mean? let's discuss. let's go feirst to asha. how significant is the second part? so we know bolton says trump told me i'm holding up the aid until i get the investigations. now these two new pieces. >> so i think that it first goes to what paul said earlier. it means that it's going to be raining shoes pretty soon not just on the ukraine issue but there is going to be other stuff that comes out, and this principle that we are looking at in this trial is going to be -- come into play again and again.
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what i think the second point is what is barr's role in all of this? he has clearly been made aware of these very problematic issues with regard to the president including with ukraine. and yet he was the person -- it was his department of justice that tried to block the whistle-blower complaint from going to congress that basically said there was nothing to investigate. so, you know, he hasn't been mentioned as a potential witness, but based on what is allegedly laid out in bolton's manuscript, i think he could be one, too. >> so jeffrey -- go ahead. >> how could we be talking about this manuscript that is highly relevant to the impeachment of the president of the united states, an ongoing trial in the senate and some are choosing to say wait until march 17th until to trial is over? and i'm not saying they should give it away. they should sell it. i'm not trying to take john
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bolton's royalties away but john bolton should be here giving an interview to you and on fox and telling what he knows. there's nothing stopping him from doing that. and the idea he has to wait until march 17th because that's the pub date i think that's -- >> and another thing here which is the true danger of john bolton and whether through manuscript or particularly through testimony and now these references to turkey, to china. all along, all the national security principles almost all, mattis, mcmaster, tillerson, all have come away telling from their service with trump saying our president is a danger to the national security of the united states and putin is the beneficiary. and that is big deal as we head toward the election. forget just about this trial. as everybody has noted, this bears on the election and bolton has a huge role.
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>> but think about every single deputy who worked under bolton and testified and said he was there, here's what happened. bolton has access to reporters we all know. if there was something that was not true we would have heard it. >> he also never said anything about these big concerns. >> but he said it behind closed doors at fund raisers. >> there's a lot of things he put out in the tweets today that are demonstrably false so he denies ever having told john bolton. for that to be true john bolton would have to be lying about the president told him -- all these people you were referring to who said bolton told me, he said this, go to counsel, they're lying just in terms of the universe of it because that's convenient to bolton so how is that not true? going to barr, barr would have
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to see this didn't have to happen. >> he'd have to give back his book advance. >> so there's a pattern. everybody testifying under oath is telling a rather similar story, and yet the president and his lawyers say they're lying. and they keep saying anybody who reveals something bad about the president is lying. at some point we have to realize maybe they're not lying, that they're telling the truth, maybe it's the president not telling the truth. that's one thing. at some point realization has to kick in. the second is i think this also applies to the lawyers. the deeper we go into this trial the lawyers take even greater and greater liberties with the facts and the law. at this point and i've said this before and i feel it strongly i think they're violating rules of professional conduct because they're engaging in misleading false statements repeatedly. >> cipollone said this today why didn't they ask bolton to testify? that's demonstrably false and
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that's going to come back. >> and bolton said i will sue you if you ask me to testify and we'll be in court forever. look at his actions towards turkey and erdogan? in an interview a few years ago before he was president he said he was conflicted because he had towers and business in turkey. he had erdogan come to the oval office and try to convince those around him including lindsey graham why it was fine to throw the kurds under the bus. look at the business dealings his children has with china. >> and he'd be the first person i've ever seen in a major situation who hides his own alibi. we've got to take a break now. we're going to turn back to the trial. there's a lot of untraveled roads to go down here, but i do want to bring you the latest on the crash that killed basketball great kobe bryant because he was more than a basketball player. he was a father, an innovator and really had a whole life in
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you know it's been more than 24 hours since the crash that killed kobe bryant, his daughter and all these other families and it's like it just happened. the ntsb said tonight there was no black box onboard that chopper so you're going to have limited information. they do have some of the back and forth between the pilot and control tower that shows he was asking for help and what that would mean. investigate said they would be on the scene for days collecting evidence. but what we already know is what makes it so tragic. kobe bryant is gone, his young daughter gone, these other
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families destroyed by this event. the lakers put their game on hold for tuesday night because they are dealing with this so profoundly as is the entire sport and really the larger community as well. so i spoke to another basketball legend, a laker legend about this loss. kareem abdul-jabbar knows this game, knows this man, he knew him as a boy. kareem, as i said before it is always a pleasure to speak with you but i'm really sorry to be speaking with you under these circumstances tonight. >> yes, it's been a very tough several hours now, chris. you know, it's very hard to deal with this, to see someone that had so much more to share with us gone so suddenly and so needlessly. it's really tough. >> to those who get to know you, you are a very deep thinker.
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you believe things deeply. you take a lot of time to figure out what things mean to you. where are you with trying to have any sense of how something like this could happen? >> you can't make sense out of it, chris. you know, things like this don't make sense. to have someone that had so much more to share with us that would have been a leader, look how kobe made it possible for a lot of young athletes to leave high school and come into professional basketball and do well and succeed because he was the exception that proved the rule. he had that type of leadership quality, and he had so much more to give along those lines. >> what i keep hearing said about him is that the basketball was like the third greatest quality that he had. that people didn't get a chance unless they knew him to appreciate his intelligence, and they didn't get a chance to see
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what he had made of himself in terms of what his family meant, what his kids meant. >> yeah, what his children meant so much to him i -- i stopped coaching with the lakers so i only got for me. some of the things the one thing, kobe's sense of humor was amazing. luke walten was having a weird day at practice. three or four times up the court he almost made a spectacular play. just missed doing it. a blocked shot and three point shot. great defense, tough rebound. but luke fts struggling. kobe from the sideline sounding exactly like -- says the force, luke. use the force. it broke the whole place up.
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we started dying laughing. it was amazing he put it together like that. and said it so timely. he had that kind of timing and the type of insight. that's what he was about. >> as a great player yourself, what made him what he was? >> i was at the game where kobe got 81 against the raptors. i had a chance to see great performances and his 81 points there was nothing he could do. he was pulling up shooting three pointers from well beyond the three point line. attacking the basket. made all the free throws. there was no way you could stop him. he had that will and skill to execute when ever he felt like it. the fife world championships rings attest to that. i think his dad joe bryant really schooled him on how to play the game. and kobe took him and expanded
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on it. >> you knew him as a kid. did you see anything in him then? >> well, when i met kobe he was with his family in italy. early 90s in rome when i met him. he had aspirations then. and i told him all right, i get that, and just listen to what your dad tells you. you want to be like your dad. you don't want to be like daryl dockens. he got it. >> now we have the other layer of this tragedy. which it wasn't just kobe. he died far too young. >> that's the hard part. >> with his daughter. that's ha big part of what's bringing the country on the same page here. that all of these different families destroyed in this one accident. kobe, of course known best. his daughter with the promise. leaving three other kids.
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now without a father and the wife without a husband. other families destroyed. the scope of this tragedy is tough to understand. >> it's tough to understand. it's useless. it serves no purpose. accept to make us know we have to be careful. we don't understand at this point what the circumstances were about the flight. that could have been some problems with that. it's not time to point fingers. it's time to be more cautious. and to not let something like this happen again. in any way. the loss is just too much. i'm just glad that it didn't see me yesterday. because i was a mess yesterday. it was very difficult day yesterday. >> thank you so much, i know this is hard time for you.
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thank you for helping us remember what was lost, who was last the and in the right way. i'm sorry for your pain. >> thanks for having me on. i'm glad you gave me the opportunity. thank you. >> we appreciate having him. i know it isn't easy. this was a family friend. he knew his father and now he's gone. nine lives gone. many children. parents. trying to do the best by their family. including bryant and one of his four daughters. much more to come throughout the night about the crash that took the life and all the families affected as well. we have a reality check on something for you on the impeachment side. look, the fighting for the facts isn't over. just because they're in the presentation faze. the facts are abused and we'll lay it out for you next. vo: droughts. floods.
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just because you argue something doesn't make it true or fair. take this for instance. >> it's not enough to push through laws to increase transparency with regard to official sources of income. senior elected officials have to remove all conflicts between their business interests and government responsibility. >> this is their argument against hunter biden who didn't work for the government. trumps son and daughter work for the government. but are picking up chinese trademarks and real estate deals. meeting on maf of the campaign or the office of the president of the united states. two of his other kids sold $100 million of trump real estate since he took office. they moved forward with projects in ireland and indonesia. licensed the trump name in the philippines. if hunter bidens work demands a major information because of his
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parent being vice president. what about the trump kids? i'm not saying there's illegally. if it works for one it works for all. "cnn tonight" starts now. >> if you're using your argument. maybe they should be called as witnesses too. >> call them all. >> just saying. well, joe biden -- i was watching and thinking, who is on trial? joe biden and obama? or donald trump? >> did you hear what senator from iowa said? republican. this stuff about joe biden could hurt him in iowa. no kidding. why you think they're bringing it up? why do they want him in the witness chair. >> she has to be smarter than that. >> why you think the president did all this. it's always about biden. >>

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