s newborn son. we spoke to justin. >> i'm worried somebody might not have their mask on or something might have happened earlier to where something is infected and we didn't know about it and one of us gets sick and transferring it to our son. >> a newborn. we'll continue to update you on that important story. anderson starts now. good evening. with new reporting tonight, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell does not yet have the votes to block impeachment votes for witnesses. will republican senators embrace the responsibility that comes with their sole power to conduct impeachment trials or will they shrink from it? as they have throughout the trial, lawyers for the president all but urged them from the second. far but taking umbrage, senators seem willing to oblige. essentially dlieng their role as fact finders and truth seekers,

with which sounds like an odd position to take. nobody benefits from widespread public suspicion the president was either removed from office or acquitted in a mockery of a trial, or so you might think. quinnipiac polling seems to reinforce the idea that people know what a real trial looks like and want to see one. voters say witnesses should be allowed to testify. witnesses like national security adviser john bolton,s who upcoming memoir reportedly says that the president tied military aid to ukraine to investigating the bidens. a few days ago the president's legal team was arguing that the president should be acquitted because -- >> not a single witness testified that the president himself said that there was any connection between any investigations and security assistance, a presidential meeting or anything else. >> that was saturday. on sunday, the bolton news hit and, just like that, the firsthand recollection that the

ambassador's testimony could provide began transforming into this today. >> you cannot impeach upon a president on an unsource d allegation. >> unsourced, he said. while arguing against calling the source himself to talk about the arrangement he reportedly referred to at one point as a drug deal. same day jay sekulow was saying that, pat philbin was saying this. >> how are we supposed to get the proof of what's inside the president's head? >> how are with we supposed to get the proof of what's inside the president's head? talking to john bolton under oath is one way, perhaps mick mulv aney as well. there are documents and notes some of those same people may have written down exactly what the president said and one. bolton, for one, is known to take detailed notes and john kelly, four-star general and former chief of staff says he

believes bolton. president's attorneys had another reason bolton should not be called. >> you know, the bolton revelation, which i thought that was kind of really discussed fairly last night by dershowitz, that you can't get that to rise to the level of impeachment. >> senator mike braun calls that argument number three. maybe the president said it but it doesn't rise to the level of high crime or misdemeanor. three basic arguments given by the president's attorneys. linking aid to dirt on bidens. if he did link aid to political dirt it's not impeachable. other arguments as well, too soon to vote on witnesses, too late to call them because the house was supposed to, and it will all take too long. at the end of the day, senator lindsey graham may have said it all. >> here is where i'm at on witnesses. i am ready to make my decision based on the record established in the house. the house chose not to pursue

witnesses that were available to them. i don't want to start a precedent of just doing it half-ass in the house and expect the senate to fix it. >> the senate has the sole power to try all impeachments. they have the way. will the is what seems to be lacking. alan dershowitz, declaration of independence, he's also, as you know, professor emeritus of harvard law school where he once had jeffrey toobin as a student. both join us now. the argument that you put forward that even if the allegations of bolton are true, it still doesn't rise to the level of impeachment, how do you come to that conclusion? it's an interpretation of the law. what's the basis of it? >> the president was charged with abuse of power. let's assume, hypothetically, instead he charged with maladministration which, by the way, according to many scholars, is the equivalent of abuse of power. let's assume he was charged with maladministration and they came forth with lots and lots and lots of witnesses.

would you still dismiss it because it's not a high crime and misdemeanor. how do i know that? the framers introduced maladministration. james madison objected to it, said it was so vague it would lead to the president serving at the pleasure of the senate and so it was expressly rejected. so if they impeach him on a ground that was expressly rejected, then obviously nothing that anybody says as a witness would rise to the level of the impeachable offense. you have to look at the charge. and the same thing is true with abuse of power, which is very much like maladministration. so, that's how i get to my conclusion. i make a purely constitutional argument based on the history of the constitutional convention, what the scholars basically said back then. remember that dween dwight said the weight of authority, meaning the professors, the judges back in 1867, the weight of authority is in favor of requiring a crime. that can't be an argument that simply is dismissed if the

weight of authority, much closer in time to when the constitution was adopted favored that interpretation. >> jeff, what do you make of that argument? >> i mean, alan, you are equating maladministration with the abuse of power. >> that's right. >> you are the only scholar who does that. >> again, you're wrong. >> no, i'm not wrong, alan. >> let me give you a site. today's "new york times," professor nicholas bowie says that almost exactly. he says that maladministration, abuse of office, abuse of power -- read it in "the new york times." >> and i've read that article and let me finish, alan. let me finish. >> quote the point before you say -- >> nicholas bowie in that article says you are wrong. >> that's right. and that's why it makes his argument so much stronger. he thinks i'm wrong and yet he agrees with me that maladministration, abuse of power and abuse of office are essentially the same. i'm not quoting him for his conclusion. you can quote him from his conclusion.

i'm quoting him for the point that you just made saying no scholars think abuse of power is the same as maladministration. >> the best you can do is quote a scholar who thinks you're wrong. >> no. i can quote blackstone. i can quote the history in england where abuse of power was rejected as a criteria. maladministration was rejected as a criteria. >> of course it was. >> what do you mean of course it was? it was one of the grounds that the british used extensively. >> maladministration -- >> blows up the argument. >> is not the accusation here. >> but abuse of power is no different. >> of course it's different. >> than maladministration. >> they're vague. they're open ended. >> one at a time. >> virtually every american president has been charged with abuse of power. virtually every american president. >> jeff, why is abuse of power an impeachable offense? >> because impeachment is about what the president can do wrong. it is about abuse of the office

of president. this is the difference between the clinton impeachment and this impeachment. anybody can lie about sex in the grand jury. only a president can withhold aid from a congressionally authorized taxpayer money in return for dirt for his political enemies. that abuse of presidential power is exactly what alexander hamilton was talking about in federalist number 65. it is why there is an enormous consensus that abuse of power is an impeachable offense that only you and the president's lawyers think is not an impeachable offense. >> let me make a categorical statement. if hillary clinton were under impeachment for abuse of power virtually all the scholars that say abuse of power is an impeachable offense would be on the other side. they do not pass the shoe on the other foot test. >> how do you know? >> because i know these people. >> you know every law professor? >> i know many of them who

signed that petition. and i am absolutely certain. i want you to look me in the eye, jeffrey, and tell me that you think larry tribe would support the impeachment of hillary clinton on abuse of power. no way. >> alan -- >> put him on the show and ask him. >> we're not talking about alan tribe. we're talking about the constitution and donald trump. >> that's right. >> and whether it is an impeachable offense to take taxpayer money and say the only -- >> that's not what we're talking about. >> yes, that's what we're here for. >> we're talking about whether abuse of power is a constitutionally permissible criteria. that's the charge against him, abuse of power. that would be as if he were charged with, quote, dishonesty. >> no, it's not. >> and then there's a list of -- >> do you think there's abuse of snaur. >> i don't think we get to that issue, whether he abused his power. i gave a list yesterday. i gave a list on the floor of the senate, i think, 30

presidents who have been accused of abuse of power. not a single one of them was ever impeached which shows how broad and vague it was, why madison would have rejected it and why it's so dangerous to give congress the weapon of abuse of power to use in a partisan way, selectively against presidents when the congress is controlled by one party and the presidency by another party. that's the great danger that i am there to try to prevent. i wasn't there to defend a particular individual. i was there because i love our country and love our constitution. and i want to protect it from partisan misuse and weaponization that can be used next time against the democratic president when there's a republican majority in the house of representatives. >> the times article for the people at home that you're referring to, the title is like don't be confused by trump's defense. >> that's what makes my point so strong. bowie is completely against my view. but in the article, in passing, he says that the abuse of power criteria is very similar to

abuse of office, abuse of power and maladministration. >> alan? >> so when a person who is against me makes a point in my favor, that strengthens the credibility of my argument. >> no, it doesn't! >> of course it does. >> he says you're wrong. i don't understand how you can possibly cite him. >> you don't understand simple logic. when there's somebody on one side who is making an argument against you and he concedes something, which is critical, that concession gets more strength and more power because it came not from an advocate on my side but from somebody against me. that is a simple point of logic, jeffrey, that you would completely agree with if the shoe were on the other foot. >> alan, the whole point of the article is to say you're wrong. what difference does it make about what else he says? he says you are wrong. and he's the only scholar you have ever cited who agrees with you, at least -- >> first of all, that's not true. he also says in the article that he agrees with me that a crime

is required. where he disagrees with me, he says abuse of power say crime. he's wrong about that. he can't cite a single statute about that. >> professor dershowitz. >> and says it's a common law crime. there is no such thing as a common law crime. >> you were at the white house for the president's announcement of a mideast peace plan. you can't have a viable plan without bringing palestinians to the table. >> of course. the goal is to bring them to the table through the saudis, the emirates. representatives of three arab countries were there today. it's a great plan. i've been involved in this peace process since 1967 when i helped justice goldberg helped 242 at the u.n. this is the best peace plan, a, for the palestinians, b for the israelis and c, for the region. palestinians should at least come to the table, think about it. they now have three or four years. there's a peace plan on the table. let them consider it seriously. let them come to the negotiating table. i'm very proud i played a small

role in helping construct this peace plan. the credit, of course, goes to the people in the administration that did it. but they called for my advice and consultation. that's how i first met the trump people, over the peace plan. and i'm so happy i was there today. >> i want to ask you about something that went on at the meeting. as you know a couple of days ago, secretary of state pompeo berated a national public radio reporter for asking appropriate journalistic questions and then yesterday he threw national public radio off his plane for his next trip. that came up in the president's comments. watch the video carefully, because you're in it. >> that was very impressive. that reporter couldn't have done too good of a job on you yesterday, huh? i think you did a good job on her, actually. that's good. thank you. >> why are you patting mike

pompeo on the back? >> because i like mike pompeo's views on the middle east. i thoroughly disapprove of the way he has treated a reporter. i don't think reporters should be treated that way in any way and i don't think presidents should say that was good to treat a reporter. but i like mike pompeo's views on the middle east. >> but you patted him on the back when the president was praising him for attacking the reporter. >> i think you're reading too much into that. i had patted him on the back a dozen times when we talked about the middle east. that's what my pat was intended to encourage. >> just at that precise moment. >> he's being criticized. i want to show my support. he's a great secretary of state and has done great things for the peace process in the middle east. if he can help to bring about peace in the middle east i'll forgive him his rudeness to a reporter. >> alan dershowitz, thank you.

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senator, senator collins. >> i know you talked to dana bash today and said it will be a very tight vote. what changed? >> i just, you know, was talking to some of my colleagues last night. i just got the feeling that the republican leader was really putting the pressure on. although, it now looks like there may be enough votes. i don't know how many there will be. originally, i was being optimistic, simply because i thought it was so obvious. i don't know how you vote not to hear from somebody who has, appears to have evidence about the central issue in the case and i couldn't believe anybody would vote against that, at least from john bolton. i'm getting conflicting signals tonight. i thought it was going to be fairly straightforward. then the signals, what i was hearing, sort of the mood was no, we're not going to let any

witnesses in. i think we're going to have to wait and see. it's going to be on friday, anderson. and i think it's either going to be a very close vote or i think it will be five or ten. we'll have to wait and see. >> you think it actually still could be as many as five or ten? because i think three or four is what's needed. >> four is what's needed. my thinking is -- i don't want to be a prognosticator here. my think something once they get to four other people are going to say okay, i don't want to go home and explain to my constituents why i didn't want to hear from john bolton. >> the idea from senator lankford to allow senators to read his manuscript in a classified setting before making a decision on witnesses, is that something you would agree to? >> i like him. i think he is a creative guy. i think that's an unnecessary step. i've been saying before any of the revelations of the last weekend that we should hear from him. i mean, he is the guy that

knows. here is what this case is all about. you remember, anderson, in the nixon impeachment, it was about what did the president know and when did he know it? in this case it's what did the president do and why did he do it? that's really -- that's why bolton is so relevant. he can talk to the question of what was the president's motivation in doing this. >> he was given a boast, despite an onslaught from folks on fox news, former colleagues over there and elsewhere against him. but former white house chief of staff john kelly saying that if bolton says in his book that the president told him the aid was preconditioned on his investigation to his rivals that kelly would believe bolton. does that hold any weight with your colleagues? >> you would have to ask them. i've heard people criticize bolton's policy views, i have myself, but i've never heard

anybody question whether he was straightforward and honest. part of this process is you attack the credibility of the witness. but i think we're just going to have to hear from him. one way to rebut this would be for the president to sit down under oath, televised deposition as president clinton did 20 years ago. but right now -- by the way, i don't want to practice law too much right here, but i think the president waived the executive privilege argument last night when he said bolton is lying. once the president starts talking about that conversation, then the conversation is available to be discussed. so we'll have to see how that goes about john bolton's credibility. that's a question, of course, but also he was in the room where it happened. i think that's the name of his book. >> finally the question portion of the trial starts tomorrow. have you submitted questions for

that? do you know how it's going to work or what you're interested in? >> i can give you an outline of how it's going to work. i have submitted questions. it's 16 hours. there will be eight hours tomorrow, eight hours the next day. and these two side also alternate. the chief justice today said he was admonishing the lawyers -- by the way, the questions are through the chief justice to the house managers or the white house lawyers. they're not to each other. this isn't a debate. and we don't even get to ask the questions. the deal would be the chief justice would say senator king, i'll stand up and say i have a question, mr. chief justice, for you to put to the house managers. and the page will take the question up. will he read it. we'll alternate back and forth. that's how i understand the process will unfold. >> do you want to tell us what you're going to ask? >> no. >> i didn't think you would. >> it's your job to ask and i don't have to answer. >> that is certainly the case. senator king, appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you, anderson. >> news ahead as well as a

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the stage set for senators to start asking questions tomorrow afternoon. the stage is also not set for witnesses. jeffrey toobin is back. with us today, usa today columnist and cnn senior political analyst kirstin powers and george w. bush aide scott jennings. kierstin on this report, about the votes you heard angus king thinking maybe now they do have the votes. do you see this -- how do you see this playing out? >> obviously we don't know what's going to happen, but it does seem like the john bolton news has shifted things a little bit. and i think before, when the witnesses were people, first of all, who didn't hear directly from the president and that could being dismissed as secondhand information and also, frankly, were people that were from the diplomatic core, which there's no love lost between republicans and the diplomatic

core. here we have john bolton, who is somebody who has been, you know, a core member of the right wing. >> that was saturday. >> yeah. until now, right? but the senators know that this is somebody who is somebody who has been reliable and as angus king said you can criticize his policies but he wouldn't just make up a conversation with the president. have you john kelly, former chief of staff, who is obviously highly respected and knows both player. he's not just saying i believe john bolton because i like john bolton. in a scenario where president trump is saying one thing and john bolton is saying another thing, i believe john bolton. >> it's too early to predict what's going to happen friday. obviously, some people are still making up their minds. the q & a period will make a difference for what they do

friday. if you're dreaming of a scenario where you halt bolton in there and that's it, the white house will want to call their own witnesses, bidens, adam schiff, whistle-blower. they have a long list of people they might call. that would essentially plunge the senate into some sort of no man's land of indefinite witness calling. i think that's a pretty good argument against doing it at all if you're trying to keep your conference together. >> do you think that's possibly why the white house is making that argument, that they're saying -- just as they said there would be a long, nasty court battle there's some who said that could be trying to game this, that there's reasons the white house wouldn't want a long and nasty court battle over this. a judge could declare that there was a crime that was committed. >> for many reasons, the white house and the senate would like

this to be over. any of these witnesses we bring, if they're not going to change your opinion about whether the president should be removed from office, either because you don't think it rises to the level, it's an election year or whatever your reason is, why prolong what's going to happen? why prolong this several months and let this cloud continue to hangover washington? >> do they care about the fact that now 75% of people now in this quinnipiac poll say there should be witnesses? does it matter to them at all? is that playing into their -- huge chunk of them are republicans and i assure you they want to hear from the bidens, schiff and the whistle-blower. if you put it that way, sure, everybody wants witness. >> i'm asking, does it shift their thinking at all in terms of what -- whether it's witnesses, all kinds of witnesses but does it matter to them? >> i don't think so. >> scott, this is your threat to

throw this whole thing into a mess for the country, perhaps the democrats tut accept the challenge. this is supposed to be a trial, with one, to get at the truth. when that didn't work, we have the new catachism of the new legal oracle, dershowitz, which nobody has ever embraced of stature. that was one of the most astonishing pieces of television i think i've ever seen, the two of you. what was most astonishing, i think, was dershowitz's invention of legal -- i covered the courts. i'm not a lawyer. this is a grievous offense that the president has committed and that there now is acknowledgement that he has committed. it is grievous to enlist a foreign power to interfere with our election. it is not about maladministration. maladministration is one thing

and what has occurred here is grievous. it's a huge offense against the people of this country. and our democratic process. >> scott, don't you think that's a completely empty threat from the white house? we're going to have a month-long trial if you agree to witnesses. do you think the white house wants a month-long trial even if the bidens are testifying? i think mcconnell has to stop this thing all together or else it's a big problem. and my general rule is you never bet against mitch mcconnell. and so i think he is going to keep a come up with a way to keep it under 50 vote. >> i don't think it's an empty threat. in this particular case it's truly unknown because you obviously have had some senators

express an interest in hearing from bolton. i don't think anybody knows what's going to happen friday. only we know, 100 per, they're not going to convict the president. the best defense mcconnell could make is why prolong the inevitable? isn't it better to get on with the business of the people? that's the most appealing argument for any senator. >> the only thing we know 100%, if bolton doesn't testify, this trial is a travesty. this trial has no credibility at all, when you don't call the single most important person who has the knowledge that is at issue at the case. >> and the president has denied what is at stake here. >> my recommendation to bolton would be if you don't get called, a have, a press conference. b, the house as far as i know is still a functioning piece of the legislative branch. they could call him any time and reopen the hearing. >> we have a trial going on in which we are supposedly wanting the truth to be established.

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tonight the national transportation safety board says the helicopter that crashed into the side of a mountain killing nine people, including kobe bryant, missed clearing that mountain by just 20 to 30 feet. on board were kobe bryant, his daughter, gianna, altobel lichlt

i family, john, keri, their daughter alyssa, sarah chester and her daughter payton, ara zobayan and christina mauser. she led clinics for the wnba players according to the l.a. times and coached in a private school attended by bryant's daughter. she leaves behind not only a husband but three children. her husband, matt mauser, joins us tonight to talk about he and his family are coping with this incredible loss. first of all, just how -- where are you in terms of how are you getting -- how are you dealing with this? >> well, emotionally, i'm torn. it's like a roller coaster ride in a lot of ways. i'm up, i'm down. i cry for no reason whatsoever and then i'm okay.

like i woke up this morning and said -- i haven't slept for two days. i woke up this morning and said i'm okay. i think i'm okay. and then i walked out and i started to cry. and then i saw my kids and i started to cry. but i'm just trying to be open to not judging myself if i'm hurting or if the kids are hurting, not judging them. just loving them and loving other people around me that are hurting as well because i know a lot of people are hurting. can i be honest with you that having other people feel grief along kind of really helps because there was a lot of people that are in pain right now. and they may not have lost somebody that they loved like i did, that wasn't their family but they're still hurting. >> i was actually in orange county last night, and speaking in front of a group. >> could have stopped by. >> i would -- had i known, i

would have. but it was a group of probably 3,000 people and i can't tell you how many of those people came up to me and talked to me about your family and all the other families. and i can tell you there was a room of 3,000 people who you and your kids and christina and everybody else on board that helicopter was foremost in their minds. and everybody was talking and thinking about you. >> thank you. >> there's millions of people around the world who are thinking that as well. can you tell me a little bit about christina? >> thank you. >> how did you meet? >> oh, man. well, we met in the most wholesome of places, a bar. here in huntington beach. she walked up. she knew who i was. i'm in a band. and she asked me when i was going back up. we started talking and she asked me what was my type and i looked

at her and said you're my type and that was it. >> i read that you -- >> and i -- >> you played basketball with her early on, on a date? is that true? >> oh, man. we started dating, you know. i have a basketball hoop in my front yard. practiced. played basketball almost every other day and i thought i was pretty good. i got in the driveway with with her and, man, i had never experienced anything like christina. she was quick, strong, powerful. she could dribble in, penetrate, come back and shoot, lay it up. i mean hit from anywhere. anywhere. she was a deadly three pointer, unstoppable with her pivot moves. she never would miss. i think she had a record at the high school for like a free throw percentage. she was just a stud. and i didn't know how i felt about it at first.

do i really want to date a girl that's better than me at basketball? and then i thought and went oh, man, i liked her even more. i just fell in love with her. >> and you coached together. and i guess that's how, correct me if i'm wrong, that's how you came across, met kobe bryant. his daughter was at the school. i understand they used to call christina the mother of defense as a coach. >> m.o.d. that's what they called her on the team. m.o.d., yeah. the girls came up on the mamba team, the girls came up with her, you know, code name. m.o.d., mother of defense, yeah. >> and kobe bryant, he saw that -- he saw her skill? he identified that right away? >> boom. god. kobe was incredible at recognizing talent. and he called me and he said i want to offer christina a job. and i said, she can't do that. she's running my music.

she's got three kids. she's teaching full time. she can't. he goes, okay, i'll call her. he was pretty persuasive. >> you have three kids. i think you have a 3-year-old, 9-year-old and 11-year-old. is that right? >> yes. 3, 9, 11. >> my dad died when i was 10. i'll never forget the night my mom came in to tell me that he was gone. how do you -- i mean, how are your kids? it sounds like even a dumb question to ask. >> yeah, no, but it's the ultimate question. they're doing okay. my little one, her birthday is next week. that's the hard part. she's going to be 4. and so her birthday is on the 4th. so i'm trying to navigate that. she kind of doesn't understand

but she does know -- i would walk in and she would call for mom. where's mom? i want mom. mommy, mommy. now i walk in, she doesn't call for her. it's bittersweet because i want her to still call for her mom, but it's hard to put her down when she's calling for mom, so i think she gets it. she knows we're grieving. she says don't cry. and then my son is a little more quiet. he has outbursts. he's very sensitive. so i try to do physical activities with him. i let him hit a pillow. i kind of let him get it out. i hold him, hug him, kiss him and tell him mom loves you and i love you. i give him a hug from mom and give him a hug from me and move on. and then my daughter is 11. and her friends are really important. so, that's nice because she played on kobe's smaller team, the little mambas. she knows everybody as well.

and kobe absolutely loved my daughter. they had a secret handshake. he called her pen pen. her seventh grade team -- she's in sixth grade. they won the championship this year. they hadn't won it since, i believe, the '80s. and we made a big bobblehead for my daughter and kobe said give me that bobblehead. he stood up waving the bobblehead. they came from behind and had a last-minute vektry. it was the last -- you know, it was one of the happiest moments of my life, having him there and my wife and watching my daughter. it was very surreal. but i just cope, anderson, day by day. i had a friend of mine, a fellow person who lost her husband a few years back. she has three kids, where i taught. she was here yesterday. i just came home from a walk and she's sitting there and i said

what do i do? the advice she gave to me was wake up. just wake up. i guess that's all you can do, huh? >> yeah. my mom used to say sometimes all you can do is just put one foot in front of the other. or if you're not feeling like doing that, you know, just keep breathing, minute by minute or second by second. >> yeah. yeah. i tell you the thing that hurts me the most, the thing that gets me the most are the -- it's not the big things. it's not how good she was at basketball, you know. although those things are wonderful. the things that i miss the most are the little, the tiny little things. my wife was not just focused on the big things. my wife was focused on the little things and the attention to detail, you know about, what kind of foods to give our kids, doctors, you know. how she would research every

disease that was out there. you know, she was relentless. she was organized and my wife would always treat the person who you wouldn't expect anybody to treat well, she would always treat them the best. she was kind. she was funny. our goal was to make each other laugh every day. and my wife, she liked me because i made her laugh every day. and i was, like, why do you like me? our first date i made her laugh so hard. we were listening to "i can't go for that," and i was goofing on the song. she just started rolling. and i had never heard anybody laugh that hard. she couldn't stop. i miss that. i miss just the little things. >> that's the hardest.

>> i'm just so sorry. and i hope you have family and friends around you. the one thing i always think about grief is that it feels really lonely and isolating, and it's actually, you know, it's a bond that unfortunately a lot of people share. a lot of people have experienced. and i know it's easy to feel very alone in this right now. but there's a lot of other people out there who have gone through it and are going through it. and i hope you are surrounded by people who you can talk to about it. >> i'll be honest with you. today was the first day i started to feel that. i'm feeling support now. the first two days i felt extremely alone. it was very dark. the first day was brutal. but today we have a little bit of a santa ana coming out. it's been foggy the last couple days. but today it's been sunny. and maybe that's a sign, you

know, that's hopefully going to get easier. like i said, it's good and bad. there's good times and bad times. like your mom says, one foot in front of the other. >> there's no -- the other thing my mom used to say, which is that there's no timeline for grief, that people can kind of think, okay, well, you'll be over this at some point. but it's obviously different for everybody. it's never the same, but it gets better. >> sounds like you had a pretty good mom, anderson. >> yeah, i did. >> well, your kids have a very good dad. >> well, they had a good mom too. they had a really good mom. >> i'd like to stay in touch with you. but i appreciate you talking tonight. and i'd like to -- i'll get your information and reach out to you, if that's okay. >> heck yeah, man. maybe we can have a little more fun. maybe we can do shots on new year's. i'd much rather hang with you doing that. >> don't ask me to play

basketball though because it's not pretty. [ laughter ] >> neither was i. well, god bless you. it was an honor. i really appreciate it. >> just keep breathing in and out. and please give your best to your kids. i know everybody's thinking about that so i hope that helps a little bit. >> will do. i appreciate it. >> if you'd like to help the mauser family, there is a go fund me page. you can see the link at the bottom of your screen right now. it's gofundme.com/f/mauserfamily supportfund. let's check on chris. >> his wife christina had an expression "level up" when someone was down or off balance or at a kilter dealing with someone. she'd say level up. i heard that from her brother, who obviously is going to support his brother-in-law very much, and the two girls, and their son. but the loss is so tremendous

for a young family like that, especially since there was so much loss in this one helicopter. these three kids, their parents, it's good to tell their stories, and it's good to recognize how this death of kobe bryant and his daughter is making so many of us think about how we should be living right now. and we'll talk about that tonight as well as looking at impeachment and the obvious case for witnesses. it's been true all along, especially now. >> all right, chris, we'll see you in about six minutes from now. in a moment, an emotional tribute to kobe bryant from his former teammates shaquille o'neal. you want to do. because when you have a retirement partner who gives you clarity at every step, there's nothing to stop you from moving forward.

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everything your trip needs, for everyone you love. expedia. our sister network tnt continued the morning with kobe bryant honoring his career and life, emotions clearly still raw, particularly for his laker teammates. shaquille o'neal. >> i haven't felt pain that sharp in a while, 47 years old. lost two grandmothers, lost my sister. now i lost a little brother. their names will be attached together for what we did. it just makes me think

sometimes we are holding back certain things we should just do. we up here, we work a lot. and i think a lot of times we take stuff for granted. like, i don't talk to you guys as much as i need to. the fact that we're not going to be able to joke at his hall of fame ceremony. we're not going to be able to say, hi, i got five, you got four. the fact that we're not going to be able to say if we would stay together we could have got ten. those are the things that you can't get back. and with the loss of my father and my sister, i just wish i could say something to them again. the last time i talked to them was when we were here and i asked them if they got 50 and

they got 60. and i just wish i could have -- you know, so it definitely changes me. >> you can read more about kobe bryant, all the victims of the crash at cnn.com. we'll return at 11:00 p.m. for a special edition of "360." i am chris cuomo. welcome to "primetime." mcconnell is acknowledging he may not have enough votes to block witnesses. so what does this mean? are we going to see the president's former national security adviser testifying, you know, the guy who has direct testimony about what the president said and did with ukraine and why? the president's own former chief of staff, what about him? he told you to your face that this was a quid pro quo. what about what john kelly is saying now and why? we also have brand new video of kobe bryant's helicopter and the moments before it went down.