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mitt romney of utah. but others are still being mum about their intentions including lisa murkowski of alaska who i caught up with earlier tonight. she still won't say where she comes down on it, other than the fact she's curious about hearing from bolton. and lamar alexander another wild card here, still is waiting for the question period to play out. we'll see if others defect. but the reason why they're at 51 votes is because of that pressure, the push being made by the republican leadership and the republican leadership believes it's working at the moment. >> so the actual vote on whether or not to have witnesses, that might be on friday? >> that might be on friday. that would be after the question and answer period that would occur starting tomorrow. a little bit about that question and answer period, anderson. that's going to be expected to be eight hours tomorrow, eight hours on thursday, and then those will go back and forth between democrats and republicans. it would actually pass a note over to the chief justice, who will actually read the questions to each side. so after those 16 hours are completed over two days, that's when we get into that crucial vote friday. and if it fails, anderson, sttrp
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could be acquitted in a matter of days. >> manu raju. earlier tonight i spoke with maine senator angus king who's gone back and forth throughout the day with his assessment of where the vote count stands, whether democrats will be able to persuade four republicans to join them. just before air time i spoke with his counterpart from hawaii democratic senator mazie hirono. >> senator, the reporting tonight that mitch mcconnell says republicans at this point do not have enough votes to block impeachment witnesses, are you surprised by that and is that in line with what you've been hearing? >> that seems to be what's happening with the republicans. and faced with the bolton bombshell that he in fact was told by the president that he was connecting the holding of aid to ukraine to investigations, that's the kind of direct evidence that the republicans have been saying they wanted and here you have it. so i think there was hand wringing and there were people saying look, we can't just turn our backs on this because i don't think they want to be accused of continuing with a
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rigged trial. >> some senate republicans like james langford, they've been saying that they have, quote, got to be able to see john bolton's book manuscript before they vote on whether to include witnesses in the trial. does that make sense to you? is that something you would be open to? >> no, it does not. these are people who want the trial to go on. i mean-y do we want to read a book as opposed to talking to the witness under oath who can be cross-examined? i mean, the book is -- we can't cross-examine the book. i find this totally strange. >> alan dershowitz in his defense of the president said that even if what john bolton said is true it's not an impeachable offense. >> the basis on which alan dershowitz came to that conclusion is mystifying to me because to make a case for abuse of power, which is what the president did in pressuring the ukrainian president to do his political bidding, that's an abuse of power. and for alan dershowitz to come up with this very unusual theory that i don't know any other
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professor of constitutional law come out and say. so he's sort of in a minority of one. but i guess he's the one giving them their fallback position for the republicans, which is to say that, well, for one thing the president didn't do it even if the evidence shows that he did do what the house managers have said he did. but alternatively, even if he did it, this is the dershowitz defense, we can't impeach him. it is what i call the "so what" defense. and i say it is not so what. and to listen to sekulow talk about danger, danger, danger like flashing lights, the danger is if we let this president not be held accountable for doing acts that we need to decide whether they are impeachable acts. and alan dershowitz certainly didn't convince us that we should follow his legal theory as to what's required. >> i'm wondering if you think that just having bolton testify
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would be enough. if he was the only one, if there were no new documents submitted, if there were no other witnesses allowed. >> before the beginning of this trial i said that this trial is an opportunity for the president to mount a strong defense. and they have not done so. and i said that the evidence that were brought forward by the house impeachment inquiry, the evidence from all of the various witnesses, that that is enough as far as i'm concerned for us to convict this president. however, it certainly would be good to have the totality of relevant evidence that has been kept from us and the american people because the president has totally stonewalled all witnesses and all relevant document production, something that no other president has done. >> trial obviously enters the question phase tomorrow. do you plan on submitting or have you submitted questions you want answers to? >> yes. all of us have submitted questions. i know there have been hundreds
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of questions that have already been submitted that go to the evidence is that was produced, so-called evidence produced by the -- by his team. and, you know, tone able the house managers to counter that evidence because unlike a trial they were not able to object to the kind of so-called evidence that was presented by the trump team. >> so just finally at this moment. and again, it could change tomorrow, you're confident that at least one witness will be called? >> i'm not confident of anything because there's going to be a lot of pressure. continuously pressure being put on the republicans to support the president this whatever he's doing. and this is a president who says i can do anything under the second amendment of the u.s. constitution. this is a lot of pressure. and we all know that this president will go after anybody who disagrees with him tooth and nail. and i think that he will particul particularly go after those republican senators who dare to question or defy him. so there's going to be continuing pressure. i hope they can withstand it and
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look at the evidence and come to the appropriate conclusion that how can you have a trial, fair trial without witnesses and relevant documents? >> senator hirono, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. >> more ahead tonight including a live report on what republican voters are saying about hearing from john bolton and others and the political heat it's generating tonight in the state of maine. later, enduring almost unbearable loss. my conversation with matt mauser, whose wife christina, mother of their three kids, was killed along with eight others including kobe bryant in sunday's helicopter crash in southern california. [♪]
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you saw the polling at the top reflecting not just broad overall support for impeachment witnesses but also 49% support among registered republicans. beyond being a significantly large percentage for a group that routinely gives the president around 90% approval, it also means the republicans are split down the middle on this very important question. it may explain why senators like maine republican susan collins are playing their cards so close to the vest. with that in mind we sent our gary tuchman to maine to talk with some republicans there. gary, what are you hearing? >> reporter: well, here's what we heard, anderson. our discoveries were made at the monthly portland republican city committee meeting. that is a committee of very active republicans here in maine's largest city of portland. they talk about local issues, they endorse local republican candidates. but he we wanted to talk afterwards about their senior u.s. senator susan collins, and
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we asked them, do they want susan collins, yes or no, to vote for witnesses in the impeachment trial? well, we got split decision among the people, an indication that no matter what susan collins ends up doing she will have a group of republicans in the state who are not happy about it. but we talked with two of the people, two of the committee members, and they gave us an expression that exemplified their divide. listen. >> do you think senator collins should vote yes or no about allowing witnesses in this impeachment trial? >> i think she should definitely vote yes. >> do you think senator susan collins should vote yes or no on allowing witnesses in the impeachment trial? >> no. best case scenario i think is to have a real trial where everybody brings their witnesses and find out what happened. make if a real search for the truth. >> it's not susan collins's job to try to repair what the democrats messed up in the house. >> i think that actually my view is true to republican values.
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>> are you curious what john bolton would have to say? >> john bolton was fired. >> still, are you curious? i'm asking you about what he would say. he worked with the president directly. >> i'll read his book. but what happens is that the democrats always come up with something in the last 30 seconds, okay? >> so you think this is a democratic plot? >> absolutely. >> who do you trust more, john bolton or donald trump? >> who do i trust more? i would say i trust john bolton more. >> i'd love to see hunter biden. i'd like to see schiff. i'd love to see all these people getting grilled by smart attorneys. >> so you'd like to see that but you wouldn't want to see bolton? >> no. >> so that man eric blaker says if susan collins votes yes, he will not vote for her for the senate, he will seek out a strong republican to run against her in the primaries and then support that republican. the other gentleman, stuart
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tisdale says if she votes no, he likely won't support her. and he woik likely would support a democrat. >> interesting. as we reported at the top of the program, witnesses in the senate impeachment trial is bound to dominate the next few days on capitol hill. joining us for some perspective, david gergen, elliott williams, kirsten powers and mike shields. david, how worried do you think mitch mcconnell should be tonight about what lies ahead in terms of witnesses? >> well, it's always hard to tell with mitch mcconnell. he's a master of pulling these things off. and i think when he had this session today and said we don't have the votes yet, that's because some people hadn't given an indication one way or the other, i think he actually wanted to go public with that to sort of push people into committing so he can get rid of the drama. i think he's figured this out. i think the chances are at least 50/50 that he's going to pull this off. but i don't think that the country is quite as split. that piece we just saw from maine was very helpful, interesting, but it suggested an even split. in fact, when you look at the
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national polls we had a poll out today, 75% now say they want witnesses. they think witnesses should be called. >> yeah, those are obviously just two republicans -- >> exactly, exactly. >> not a scientific sample. >> but i do think that, you know, if you're a republican who wants to protect the senate, and keep the senate, you've got to pay very close attention when 75% of the people are saying that. >> also elliott, if you're a republican and you're thinking about whether or not to have witnesses you also have to take into account the idea that there's no telling what could pop out a week from now or a month from now, whether it's in bolton's book or something else. i mean, the information comes out at one time or another. >> most importantly, what's in bolton's book will come out six weeks, a month from now, or whatever and that information will be out there. if they are to vote against him, you know, they'll have that vote on them. to some extent, what the democrats ought to do, or i think what might be wise is get trump's team on the record about
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when did you see the book? what did you know? when did the white house know? and frankly, were you president trump's lawyers candid in the united states senate? this isn't really about the substance or policy anymore, really it's about is there daylight between the senators and the white house, right? because the senate is so mindful of its prerogative and not being lied to. you know, they take themselves very, very seriously, those of us who've worked up there and that might be the way to flip a couple votes. >> mike, you now have folks at fox news, rudy giuliani and others now saying bolton is, you know, a back stabber, all sorts of things. you also now have general kelly saying that, you know, clearly he hasn't read the book but he would tend to believe john bolton, you know, and would rely on what john bolton has to say and that bolton, you know, took notes at the end of days and was reliable. should republicans -- i mean, do
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you think -- is there real interest in getting witnesses now because of that? >> i have a little bit of a different perspective than david on those numbers. i think the reason why you see so many republicans saying they want witnesses is because they think they're going to get a chance to call their own witnesses. and that skews those numbers. so when you see 75%, oh, my gosh, everyone wants witnesses, all the trump base are like yeah, adam schiff. joe biden. hunter biden. the whistle-blower. so they're like absolutely. they're in a place, let's get to the truth, the truth for them is finding out how this thing happened. why did hunter biden say to "good morning america" i would never have this job if i wasn't joe biden? what does he mean by that? they want to bring him in front of the senate to have those conversations. i think democrats have to be very careful what they wish for here because not only will they have those witnesses coming out, in the meantime this thing just keeps dragging on and on and on and on. and i really believe it's harming the democrats the longer this thing goes on as opposed to them getting back to talking about things they can win the
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election on. the country is divided on this. they've made their mind up. takes 67 votes. it's not going to happen. and they're going to keep doing this over and over again. and the country is just getting ready to say what are you guys doing up in washington? >> kirsten, do you think it's hurting democrats that it's taking away from discussions about health care, pharmaceuticals? >> i've never thought politically this was a good idea especially because it's bumping up against, you know, iowa is right around the corner. so it never made sense to me. and also, look, nancy pelosi resisted the idea of impeachment for a long time when it was russia because she didn't think it was going to bode well for democrats. i actually think what happened here contrary to the claims by republicans where they're always saying, this was just -- they're doing this for political reasons, i actually don't think that's true. i don't think that this necessarily helps them. it possibly hurts them. so i think that they think that they have a responsibility, and if they don't do something it is in effect saying presidents now moving forward can always behave this way. >> we do have sharp
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disagreements about this. i think that the democrats, for a large part of this process, were in peril of getting hurt through the process but i think now that it's focused on witness -- and if the republicans vote down having john bolton, that is going to play very badly and the democrats are going to be able to ride this. after all, having -- first the president puts on a roadblock. you can't see the documents, you can't see the witnesses. then the republicans argue, well, you haven't talked to them yet, you haven't brought anybody up here who's ever talked to the president. you know, because they blocked it. and now that person is ready to talk and the republicans are going to block that too? excuse me, but i think that a lot of people are going to get mad as hell about that. >> i actually didn't mean that i thought it was harmful because of the impeachment. i think that it's a problem because we have an election going on and we have candidates that are trying to win the primary, and there are issues that, as much as important as
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these issues are, i would disagree with you about what you just said, it's hard for me to believe that come election day whether there were witnesses or not is going to be on the minds of very many people. >> i agree with you on that. reuters had a story today, in the suburbs of detroit and they talked to people and the quote that stood out to me is how does what's going on in washington, d.c. help me when i'm struggling? and that is -- david axelrod said the other night on cnn, did a focus group for institute of politics in chicago, 80 minutes into it before they talked about impeachment. so the country is either hard right and hard left or saying to washington please focus on my issues. and so the longer this goes on -- oh, because this is going to be -- all bolton's going to do is talk about things we already know about. it's just another witness to say things the democrats want him to say about what we know. so it just extends this even further and carries this drama on that the country's getting sick of. >> don't you think there are people who are -- jared kushner is saying the president is vindicated, he starts having exoneration rallies and bragging about this, as he will, as
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inevitably he will. don't you think there will be some people really agitated about that? >> yeah. and they're all voting for democrats. >> what's that? >> they're all voting for democrats. they're already voting for democrats. the question is whether or not there are people out there who would actually be moved to vote based on this, and i just think -- maybe if the election was tomorrow but by the time the election comes around i think it's unlikely that that's the animating issue. if you look at the polls it's not. >> i agree. >> but there are a lot of democrats right now who are worried, bernie sanders, for example, is going to run off with the first two primaries and there's going to be panic in the democratic party if that happens. this is an issue that can help unite the democrats in terms of a campaign. it can bring democrats from different backgrounds together in their distaste and their fear of what trump would be in the second term. >> i've got to take a break. straight ahead, we're going to remember all of those who lost their lives in the helicopter
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we learn new details about the crash that killed nine people included basketball legend kobe bryant. according to the national transportation safety board, the helicopter missed clearing the mountain it hit by only 20 to 30 feet. tonight we want to remember the lives of those nine people on that helicopter. kobe bryant skipped college and went straight to the nba out of high school. he was that good. then won five championships with the los angeles lakers. his daughter gianna, 13 years old, her passion for basketball matched that of her dad's.
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we remember john altobelli tonight. he was a championship baseball coach at orange coast college. he was last year's national coach of the year. according to the association of american baseball coaches. his wife keri also lost her life in the crash. she was said to be her husband's number one fan and showed up all the time with their kids to those baseball games. we remember their daughter alyssa as well tonight. she died in the crash. 13 years old. she was a friend and a teammate of gianna bryant. tonight we also remember sarah chester. she was 45 years old. the mom. and she died with her daughter payton, who was 13 years old. the principal of payton's school called them both engaged, supportive, encouraging and full of mischief and laughter. talking to the "l.a. times." also killed, the pilot, ara zobayan. he was "very much loved in the aviation community," according to one l.a. journalist whose also a licensed pilot. and finally, cristina mauser. we remember her tonight.
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cristina was hand picked by kobe bryant to coach as at his mamba sports akd hi. she led clinics and also coached at a private school attended by bryant's daughter. christina leaves behind not only a husband but three young children. i spoke earlier with her husband matt mauser about how he and his family are coping with this indescribable loss. >> first of all, just how -- where are you in terms of -- how are you dealing with this? >> well, emotionally i'm torn. it's like a roller coaster ride in a lot of ways. i'm up, i'm down. i cry for no reason whatsoever and then i'm okay. like i woke up this morning and i said -- i mean, i hadn't slept for two days. i woke up this morning and i said, i'm okay. i think i'm okay. and then i walked out and i started to cry. and then i saw my kids and i started to cry.
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but i'm just trying to be open to not judging myself if i'm hurting or if the kids are hurting not judging them, just loving them and loving other people around me that are hurting as well because i know a lot of people are hurting. can i be honest with you? that having other people feel grief along kind of really helps because there was a lot of people that are in pain right now and they may not have lost somebody that they love like i did that was in their family but they're still hurting. >> i was actually in orange county last night and speaking in front of a group. >> you could have stopped by. >> i mean, had i known i would have. but it was a group of probably 3,000 people. and i can't tell you how many of those people came up to me and talked to me about your family and all the other families. and i can tell you there was a room of 3,000 people who you and
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your kids and christina and everybody else on board the helicopter was foremost in their minds. everybody was talking and thinking about you. >> thank you. >> there's millions of people around the world who are thinking that as well. can you tell me a little bit about christina? >> thank you. >> how did you meet? >> oh, man. well, we met in the most wholesome of places, a bar. here in huntington beach. she walked up and she knew who i was. i'm in a band. and she asked me when i was going back up. and we started talking. and she asked me what was her type -- what was my type. and i looked at her and i said you're my type. and that was it. >> i read that you -- that you played one-on-one basketball with her like early on on a date? is that true? >> oh, man. so when we started dating, you know, i have a basketball hoop
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in my front yard. i play basketball almost every other day. and i thought i was pretty good. and i got on the driveway with her. and man, i had never experienced anything like christina. she was quick, strong, powerful. she could dribble, in penetrate, come back and shoot, lay it up. i mean, hit from anywhere. anywhere. she was a deadly three-pointer. unstoppable. with her pivot moves. she'd never miss. i think she had like a record at her high school for free-throw percentage. she was just a stud. and i didn't know how i felt about it at first. i was like do i really want to date a girl that's better than me at basketball? and then i thought and i went, oh, man, i liked her even more. i just fell in love with her. >> and you coached together. and i guess that's how -- and correct me if i'm wrong. that's how you came across --
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met kobe bryant. his daughter was at the school. i understand they used to call christina the mother of defense as a coach. >> m.o.d. that's what they called her on the team. m.o.d. yeah, the girls came up on the mamba team, the girls came up with her, you know, code name. m.o.d. mother of defense. yeah. >> and kobe bryant, he saw that -- he saw her skill. he knew -- he identified that right away. >> boom. oh, god. so kobe was incredible at recognizing talent. and he called me and he said i want to offer krifchristina a j. and i said she can't do that, she's running my music, she's running -- she's got three kids, she's teaching full-time. i go she can't. he goes, okay, i'll call her. so he was pretty persuasive. and -- >> you have three kids. i think you have a 3-year-old, a 9-year-old, and an 11-year-old,
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is that right? >> yes. 3, 9, and 11. >> my dad died when i was 10. and i'll never forget the night my mom came in to tell me that he was gone. how do you -- i mean, how are your kids? it sounds like a dumb question to ask. >> yeah, no. it's the ultimate question. they're doing okay. my little one, her birthday's next week. that's a hard part. she's going to be 4. so her birthday's on the 4th. and so i'm trying to navigate that. and she's kind of doesn't understand but she does know -- i mean, i'd walk in and she would call for mom. where's mom? i want mom. mommy, mommy. and now i walk in, she doesn't call for her. it's bittersweet. because i want her to still call for her mom. but it's hard to put her down
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when she's calling for mom. so i think she gets it. she knows we're grieving. she says don't cry. and then my son is a little more quiet. he has outbursts. he's very sensitive. so i try to do physical activities with him. i let him hit a pillow. i kind of let him get it out. and i hold him and i hug him and i kiss him and i tell him mom loves you and i love you. i give him a hug from mom and i give him a hug from me. and move on. my daughter, she's 11 and her friends are really important. so that's nice because she played on kobe's smaller team, the mamba -- the little mambas. so she knows the whole -- she knows everybody as well. and kobe absolutely loved my daughter. they had a secret handshake. he called her pen-pen. her seventh grade team -- she's in sixth grade for the school she plays in. they won the championship this year. they hadn't won it since i believe since the '80s.
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and we made a big bobblehead for my daughter, and kobe said give me that bobblehead. and he stood up and started waving the bobblehead. they came from behind and had a last-minute victory. it was the last -- you know, it's one of the happiest moments of my life, having him there and my wife and watching my daughter. it was very surreal. >> matt's three kids now tonight face a life without their mom. we'll talk more with matt in just a moment about christina and what lies ahead. this is charlie not coughing because he took delsym 12-hour. and this is charlie still not coughing while trying his hardest not to wake zeus. delsym 12-hour. nothing lasts longer for powerful cough relief. think you need to buy expensive skincare products [♪] to see dramatic results? try olay skin care. just one jar of micro-sculpting cream
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more now of my interview with matt mauser whose wife christina was one of nine people along with kobe bryant killed in that helicopter crash on sunday. >> you just cope, anderson, day by day. i had a friend of mine, a fellow person who lost her husband a few years back. she has three kids, where i taught. she was here yesterday. i just came home from a walk. and she's sitting there and i said what do i do? and the advice she gave to me was wake up, ust wake up. i guess that's all you can do, huh? >> yeah, my mom used to say that sometimes all you can do is put one foot in front of the other or if you're not feeling like
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doing that, just keep breathing minute by minute, or even second by second. >> yeah, yeah. i play the thing that hurts me the most, the thing that gets me the most. are the -- you know, it's not the big things. it's not how good she was at basketball. you know, although those things are wonderful. the things that i miss the most are the little -- the tiny little things. my wife was not just focused on the big things. my wife was focused on the little things and the attention to detail, you know, about what kind of foods to give our kids. doctors, you know, how she would research every disease that was out there. she was -- you know, she was relentless and she was organized and detailed and how she'd treat people that weren't important. that was -- my wife would always
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treat the person who you wouldn't expect anybody to treat well, she would always treat them the best. she was kind. she was funny. our goal was to make each other laugh every day. and my wife, she liked me because i made her laugh every day. and i was like, why do you like me? you know. our first date she -- i made her laugh so hard. we were listening to "i can't go for that" by hall and oates and i was goofing on the song. and she just started rolling. and i remember the first time -- i'd never heard anybody laugh this hard. she would laugh so hard, and she couldn't stop. i miss that. i miss those -- just the little things. that's the hardest. >> matt, i'm just so sorry. and i hope you have family and friends around you. you know, the one thing i always think about grief is that it feels really lonely and isolating and it's actually -- you know, it's a bond that
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unfortunately a lot of people share. a lot of people have experienced and i know it's easy to feel very alone in this right now but there's a lot of other people out there who have gone through it and are going through it and i hope you are surrounded by people who you can talk to about it. >> i'll be honest with you, today was the first day i started to feel that. i'm feeling support now. the first two days i felt extremely alone, it was very dark. the first day was brutal. but today we have a little bit of a santa ana coming out and the sun came out. it's been foggy the last couple days, or cloudy in the morning and stuff like that. but today it's been sunny. maybe that's a sign, you know, that it's hopefully going to get easier. like i said, it's good and bad. there's good times and bad times. i'm just -- like your mom says, one foot in front of the other. >> yeah, you know, the other thing my mom used to say,
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which is -- was that there's no timeline for grief. that people kind of think okay, you'll be over this at some point but it's obviously different for everybody and it's -- you know, it's never the same but it gets better. >> sounds like you had a pretty good mom, anderson. >> yeah, i did, i did. well, your kids have a very good dad. >> well, they had a good mom too. they had a really good mom. >> well, matt, i'd like to stay in touch with you. but i appreciate you talking tonight and i'd like to -- i'll get your information and reach out to you, if that's okay. >> heck yeah, man, maybe we can have a little more fun, do shots on new year's. that would be -- i'd much rather hang with you doing that. >> all right. don't ask me to play basketball, though, because it's not pretty. it's not good at all. >> i guess neither was i. well, god bless you. it was really -- it was an honor. i really appreciate it. >> well, matt, yeah, just keep breathing in and out.
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and please give our best to your kids and let them know -- i know they know everybody's thinking about them. i hope that helps a little bit. >> will do. i appreciate it. >> matt mauser is now left with three young kids to raise on his own. they're going to need help in the months and years ahead and there's a gofundme page set up for the family. you can see the link at the bottom of your screen, gofundme.com/f/mauser-family- support-fund. more news when we come back. feeling sluggish or weighed down
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. break news to report tonight in the aftermath of the iranian missile strikes earlier this month the pentagon has once again increased the number of service members diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries. you'll remember president trump told the american public that, quote and no americans were harmed, unquote. well that changed last week. the pentagon announced 34 people had been diagnosed with
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traumatic brain injuries. the president down-played the news while in davos. >> i heard that they had headaches and a couple of other things. but i would say that i can report it is not very serious. >> so you don't think potential traumatic brain injuries serious? >> no, i don't consider them very serious injuries relative to other injuries that i've seen. >> veterans of foreign wars called those comments, quote, misguided and demanded an apology. tonight the story changes again. barbara starr at pentagon with that. >> reporter: what we've learned today there are 16 additional cases. that brings it to a total of 50 u.s. service members suffering and diagnosed with symptoms of traumatic brain injury, concussion-like symptoms in the days since the january 8th iranian missile attack on the base of al assad in iraq.
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that makes it a mass casualty incident. 50 american troops injured. the good news is 30 or so of them have already returned to duty in iraq and are able to carry on. but, you know, this is clearly something that has resonated throughout a large number of military troops in iraq and it is at the hands of iran which remember fired those ballistic missiles causing that massive blast wave that injured these troops, anderson. >> so does the pentagon think -- i mean they have now the total number of people affected by this and obviously they'll continue to monitor those people or do they think this could continue to grow? >> yeah, exactly, they will monitor the ones they have. but you're absolutely right it could continue to grow. they think there were about 200 people in the immediate area of the blast waves when it all happened. they are monitoring those people so, you know, within a couple of weeks now we're up to 50. they could get additional cases with, and they very much want
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troops to come forward if they are experiencing symptoms so they can get them help, but they are very prepared at the pentagon to see additional cases. >> these traumatic brain injuries these service members have been experienced or suffering from the president refrd to them as headaches rather dismissively and said they're not very serious. obviously we know a lot more about concussions and traumatic brain injuries now than people knew 20 years ago. i don't know if the president is up-to-date on that information, but this is far more than just headaches. >> well, it is. headaches at the minimum is a symptom that some troops might be describing. but, look, their brains were on the receiving end of a massive blast wave of iranian ballistic missiles, thousands of pounds of explosive power, and that wave went across the base and it caused these injuries. basically pushing their brains against their skulls. and so this can be quite a
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serious injury, and it something that the military has struggled with for many years now to get troops to acknowledge that they're experiencing symptoms. the worst part of this may be if troops feel as stigma they don't report it and is simply grows worse. it is well-known to be the silent wound of war. >> we'll be right back.
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closer to the witness vote. and as of now mitch mcconnell is supposedly saying he doesn't know if he has enough votes to block them. is that good news or is that bad news for democrats? how can it be bad news? we'll discuss. we're going to game out what this means. there's a plus, minus factor here to be considered because this is politics. there are also new developments on the kobe bryant crash. there are updates from investigators on where the helicopter was flying right before impact and what the conditions were. we also have the brother of one of the passengers killed here to help us honor someone who was lost. you would not believe the bond they had. the time to argue is over. the debate will continue. for the next few days you're going to have senators submitting questions in the
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trump impeachment trial. they'll give them to the parliamentarian, and the chief justice will then ask the questions to either the house managers or the president's defense team. and then you're going to have the real test. after the questions we'll see if mitch mcconnell believes that the votes are there to warrant debate on whether to compel witnesses and documents. according to sources who came out of a meeting with mitch mcconnell today, first that tells you that republicans are talking, right? so that's automatically a problem on that side of the ball. the word is that the votes aren't there yet to block witnesses. three kwar three quarters of you think witnesses should be allowed to testify according to a new poll. that includes nearly half of republicans surveyed. now, where are we in the state of play? is
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