this is "gps," welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i am fareed zakaria. today on the show, president trump has said since he was elected, he wants to bring peace to the middle east. >> peace between israel and the palestinian city. >> this week trump unveiled his plan. from the palestinians and arab. senior advisor, jared kushner, the man who worked for three years to produce this plan. can this bring real peace and in-depth interviews?

black, white, brown, rich, poor and middle class. america is divided into identity and more divided than ever in the country's modern history. how did we get so polarized? here is my take. the leap for john bolton's forthcoming book are the reserveulation in treserv revelation in the impeachment process. compare them to chart of public support for removing trump from office. it looks like the ekg of someone after a fatal heart attack, a flat line. nothing changes. the story of this impeachment is the story of american politics

today. it affects every aspect political life. would it be great if someone would digest all these studies, si synthesize them and make a book that made sense of it all. klein begins to explain polarization is nothing new. america has been divided for a long time. but, back then each body contains a variety of political views which meant these defensive had to be navigated and negotiated. liberal democrats had to attempt for their seal because political powers in the senate depended on

the southern wing of the party. since 1964 when the democrats broke with the segregationists, obviously a good thing, the party sorted ideals logically. one megaship that exacerbated is that partisanship is about identity. identity is determined by demographic factors, above all after the president obama's presidency, race. until white working class voters were evenly split between the two parties. by 2015, they lean republicans by 24 percentage point. once identity is at the heart of identity differences, facts will not change people's miends. a better healthcare bill will

not. this crucial insight is something democrats need to internalize. the key to gaining support among undecided voters probably lies in addressing their identity concerns rather than the economic ones. bill clinton were master of this sort of symbolic politics. because of america's political geography, polarization affects the two parties differently. republicans are a homogenous group. consider that they have lost the popular vote in four of the last five presidential elections and won the white house in two of those cases. democrats need to appeal to a broader coalition than republicans. it is just a fact in order to compete an in land state and win the electoral college.

the american political system is not a parliamentary one in which one party gains control of all branches of government. power is shared between three branches with over lapping authorities. the founders despise the idea of authority. polarization has utterly paralyzed american government. for more go to cnn.com/fareed and read my washington post column this week. let's get started. in november 2016, fresh from his surprising election as president of the united states, donald trump, told "the new york times"

that he wants to be the president who brought peace to the middle east. he wanted his son-in-law, jared kushner to be centrally involved in the effort. a few months later, trump announced that jared kushner would take the lead doing what many thought is impossible. right by his side was senior advisor jared kushner. this week trump announced the details of his so-called peace to prosperity plan. this time with benjamin netanyahu on his side, the other side of the deal, the palestinians. the leader of the palestinians authority called it the slap of the century as oppose to the deal of the century as trump supporters are calling it. i had the opportunity to talk to the man booiehind it all jared kushner on friday. jared kushner, pleasure to have you on. >> pleasure to be with you fareed. >> so you put out this plan on one side, the israelis most of

the spectrum likes it and it does allow to israel to most of the settlements, legalizing something that most administrations and democrats and republicans withheld, you are asking the palestinians to say yes in order to get this deal. i am troying to understand how you get to a yes and yes because you have two sides of this party. on one side you have given israelis a lot of this stuff and you asked a lot of them. the last two weeks you have been belligerent about them. if they want to screw this up like everything they have done before, tough for them, they can't pretend to be victims anymore. i am trying to understand what is your strategy to get your palestinians to say yes because it seems like you come out of a pro-israelis peace plan and now

you are bparading them. >> we have been working for about three years, we have studied this carefully and what president trump was able to accomplish this past week is unify israel on a plan during the election of the most divisive issue of politics which have never been done before. conditions were laid out and a plan that was -- it is a very sensitive document and people appreciated the depth, the initiative which was the first real attempt that was great attempt of the eight lines. the next attempt were two or three pages of words of high level concept. a detailed road map that can get this done and live side by side in a peaceful existence in a productive way. he released a plan and then he

got a map and all the different negotiations. there is never a map this has been public. that establishes ahead to move forward. this people have been trying this prompt for years. it is probably the most complicated problem in the world. we try to take a pragmatic approach and do it differently. the first time is a real offer on the table to break the log jam and it is up to the palestinians to see if they have the opportunity to pursue it. >> that was a nice step. it does not answer my question. the washington street journal says it is a pro israeli plan. you asked a lot of them, why are they going to say yes and what's the strategy here? >> you have a lot of the arab countries coming out calling this a serious plan and a based

negotiation. israel has always been isolated, you have the u.k. and poland and a lot of good european countries come out in favor of this and a lot of arrabic countries. this is as framework for a good nation. the palestinians, just been speaking the truth. what they did was rejected us before it came out. they called for a day of rage and said we want to stay. people are ready are not calling for a day of rage and marking in the streets. we are hoping they'll not try to re-negotiate for ways they have done for years, it had not led to results. our intentions is to lay out a framework that can make the lives of palestinians better. we laid out a $50 billion

economic plan that'll create millions of jobs. it got wider claims on the details. this will make the palestinian lives better. what we are expecting is leadership to engage to try to d do that. i will say that again people on this complain a ls a lot and tr to find reasons why it fails. what president trump is trying to do is find a pathway to move forward that can make people's lives to be better and prove problems. >> here is what strikes me as, suggest that actually there will not be a palestinian state according to this plan. the predicate condition of a palestinian state to be recognized is there must be free elections and guarantee of religious freedom and financial

institutions that are as good perspective as in the western world and the u.s. and israel will judge whether the palestinians achieve this. there is no country that would meet these criteria, is this just a way to tell the palestinians you are never going to get into state. if no arab country in today in a position, feskeffectively it is killer amendment. >> it is okay if you don't want to respect human rights and not allow people to speak freely. >> it does not have any of it. >> it is not a question to debate. if you are israel and the question is how do we get israel to make compromises, how do we get here? israel has been attacked many times over history. in defense of wars and through

those wars they have been able to thrive as a country and they become a power house militarily and economically and technology wise and they're doing well. you have 5 million palestinians who are trapped under the rule that you have now. the palestinian authority, the leader who's a man who does want peace. he's in his 16 years of his term. you have a situation where the people don't have the rights to thrive. when we did our conference in bahrain, it was an amazing thing. they didn't come because their leadership was going around handing out flyers saying we have a bullet -- the new point that came out of that conference was that people are saying we care about the palestinian people and we are dying to invest jobs there. nobody said israel was the problem.

the problem were twofold. nobody wants to make capital expenditure in a place of terrorists, no stability to the government. the second thing was you need to have a good government structure who's going to go on and make capitol investments if you don't have property rights or rules of law. you have to ask yourself, israel has been a convenient scapegoat for the palestinian authority. it is a unifying feature of the arabic world. but, for the palestinians if they want their people to work better lives, we have a framework to do it. if they don't think we can uphold the standard. the only thing more dangerous than what we have now is a failed state. we see what happened all over the middle east when we do have failed state. that is a risk causing us through america. >> next on "gps," on monday,

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behavior was wrong even if it is not impeachable. could that overtime hurt the president? >> it is a difference between what the voters see or wants, what people in the washington, in the media are calling for. since the impeachment started most people who are not paying attention to it. we see the number goes up by 7 points. the president's approval rating is nationally over 50%. it was the highest it has been since the inauguration. >> i think it was up 46%. everything is relative, right? there is a lot of polls that were wrong in the last election. our data proves more right than the public holds and it continues to be. in the last election, when romney ran, 2% of people disapproved of him voted for him. so look i think it is basically

stronger, last night we were in iowa, we had a massive crowd. we had 160,000 people signed up for it. the nenergy i am feeling today was stronger than what we felt at the end of the campaign. president trump has not lost many supporters. a lot of people who say well, what he's talking about. he's done all the things he promised. he got done criminal justice reform work done. he did a lot of things that he didn't promise he was going to do. the american consumers have never been stronger. 7 million jobs and 2.5 million americans that are in the work force and 2.5 million lifted out of poverty and 10 million americans coming off of food stamps. the numbers are unbelievable. the more time we spend time in washington and the more the president has his vision for what he wants to do, he believes the potential for this country is unbelievable. as we finish implementing our

deregulation, our agenda and hopefully we'll do more tax cuts as we focus on being energy and independent which is critical to our nation security and bringing down energy cost for people and training people for the future and economy. the potential for making this country strong is unbelieveraab. the president is enthusiastic of what he accomplished so far. >> you work with the white house and obviously special relationship. why do you think so many people that work for him leaving feeling very dissatisfied that he's done a lot of wrong things or asked them doing a lot of things, i am thinking of john bolton, john mattis and scarramucci and you can go on. it feels like a lot of people have that feeling. are they all just wrong? >> i think being in the white house under this administration

is intense. the president is a business person, he demands results and you work hard and deliver. i have seen cream risen. what happens is he cycled out a lot of people that did not have what it took to be successful here and a lot of people coming in being excellent are not out there complaining or writing books because they're too busy working. if you look at the results that this administration has produced on trade issues and again to do a trade deal, they worked for five years is a horrific trade deal. china, everyone has been talking about china and the president got it done. the president was the first president to get israel to agree with these historic concessions making something impossible possible. i look at everyday of what the president done for the economy. this is not happening because you have a bunch of disgruntle

people running around. the president had bad people and he moves them out. the white house and the cabinet, i think the people that we have now are spectacular. i feel honored everyday to be able to work with them. i believe we are getting a lot of things done and we are getting better and better everyday. the president is very focused, he is not somebody taking political decisions, he's saying what's right or wrong for the write. whether you vote for the president or didn't vote for him. he shows up everyday at work and trying the make the country stronger and make the economy better and our country richer and keeping our country safe. >> when we come back, more of my interview of jared kushner. te, . for strength and energy! whoo-hoo! great-tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein and twenty-seven vitamins and minerals. ensure, for strength and energy.

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jared kushner you have been involved in a lot of the trade negotiations. let's talk about the one with moe mexico and canada. bush's trade representative, robert zelek, why this was a bad deal that it actually you know in many ways added that we are going to reduce capital. this would be the first trade agreement in the history of the public that is designed to diminish trade. so that's two prominent

republicans who have been involved in trade who thinks the effect of the deal and negotiations is to diminish trade which means diminish gdp. >> i will answer all the different things you said. first of all, 89 votes in the senate which is pretty unheard of. there is a widespread of popularity in this deal. you have farmer endorsement and manufacture endorsement that you don't usually get. i was not involved in trade globally as my previous life. i got involved in this. president trump had a radical view in trade. people like pat toomey, they had different doctrine. president trump's policy, how do you protect the american workers and the economy? i became more of a believer that the president's instincts on trade are 100% right.

if deficits don't matter why does every country i deal with don't want to have one. >> our economy is growing. >> the trade deficit went up. >> overtime you want to reduce the trade deficit. that's what the president believes and i do believe that as well. >> the increase under his administration is a sign of structure. >> america is out pacing the world historically on employment and our interest rates are higher. let's go back to the trade stuff. with regards to this deal, what's so spectacular, it modernizes all of our trade policies. all the technology. the most important thing it does is it protects american manufactures. now 75% of cars have to be made in north america protects the manufactures in michigan and

ohio and all these different places. what i will say is when a lot of these trade deals were done, we had about 70,000 factories that left america closed down since then. a lot of the problems we face in society. the benefit were distributed. the cost of the t-shirt went down for everybody. the cost became concentrated. factories i would get close because product line would bet shipped overseas. a lot of these communities became hollowed out. so i do think that president trump says all the time the arab economic surrender is over. it is one of the greatest trade deals of all time. the largest of the world. we'll add about half a point of gdp and brings about 200,000 jobs to america and maybe as much as 5,000 jobs.

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earlier in the show, i told you about ezra klein's new book. >> welcome. >> thank you for having me. >> we are trying to understand why we are so polarized. you are saying because we like to think in terms of groups and sort ourselves into groups and

discriminate against other groups. tell the story of this solid rules holocaust survivor who does a kind of experiment to try to make at this point. this story is remarkable. this guy is a polish jew born in the 1920s. so he emulates to france and he is captured by german and put in prison of war camp. when the war was over, he's released and his family was killed in the holocaust, he becomes obsess with his identity. how do people sort groups and how do we understand something is part of a group and not out. he creates this set of studies that are known as a minimal

group paradigm study. he grabs a bunch of boys and had not come in. quick experience and look at the screen, how many dots do you think on it? then they say you know while you are here, we would like to do a study totally different, just for easy use, we'll separate you into the group that over estimated the number of dots and under estimated. next is the money allocation study. these boys who are similar to each other and know each other and go to the same school and separated by what's not even true begin to discriminate against each other. >> they get no money. yet they give more to their group. >> exactly. >> and meaningless group. >> what's striking about this study was this was supposed to

be underneath the line. adding group dynamics to figure out. >> this was meant to be sort of control. >> exactly. >> where people pay no attention to the group because it was so random. >> even there we found that even that minimal. this study is replicated. >> it tells you that human beings what? >> we start naturally and psychologically tuned to see group differences. it is one group psychology takes hold? if you don't believe all the social science jumbo, just look at sports. i am comfortable with the idea of players go where the money

is. we are so attached to the outcome of these games that for us it don't mean all that much materially that our emotional highs go up and down and sports is keon this deep sense of group of psychology. you can begin to see how much this is playing a prominent part of our phyche. that's a powerful effect on our behavior. >> you say that white identity has been activated in the last five or six years. >> very powerful in this era. something to know that the content of american politics are in this period of demographics change. we have gone from having 4% of the country in the 1970s and that's moving towards the record, we are on our way in the

2040s unaffiliated in the largest group of america. we are in this period of large demographic change and among other things that are activating it. i want to be clear that does not say white identities are not powerful in american politics. it is so powerful that could be taken for granted. it is under change and it is changing. it is changing the access of political conflicts. donald trump goes to the republican party and he said the conflict should not be do you want to cut medicare or medical. it should be about how you feel about this country getting browner or immigrants coming into this country. a lot of people on the republican base says you are right, that's the thing i feel most essentially.

>> the two take aways that are immediate that i got from the book are the democrats need to understand when they try to appeal to beef up potentially undecided voters, a lot of it is not a matter of facts and policy announced they got to figure out a way to make those people feel like they belong and they trust them and there is a identity of affinity of some kind. geographically the way the country's electoral college works, they have to move to the center. the republicans don't. tho >> those are crucial take aways. it is interaction of the institution of our political system. democrats particularly have a hard task here. they need to see identity as a layer of politics. you know me and my background, i am a policy reporter, i come

into this because i needed a better explanation for how policy debates move from positives from the beginning or people can imagine a lot of different ways in solving a problem in collapsing it. democrats are often not very good at symbolically in policies. in 2016, hillary clinton had 50 policies on her side. donald trump had seven and none of them makes all that sense in terms of how it is constructed. a lot of politics is about communications. the other point he makes is well taken as well. republicans can win and are winning in the senate right now and in the white house. democrats if they do not win, they do not win power. if they got to 46% of the vote that donald trump got in 2016, they would not be president. they would be wiped out in the electoral college.

democrats are not able to follow the same strategic as republicans because republicans due to their over representation. it is a bad thing for our political system. it is good for parties for them to be disciplined by democracy themselves. the republican party is not being disciplined by it. >> fascinating stuff for all of us. erza klein, thank you. >> thank you so much. >> we'll be right back. at fidelity, we'll help you build a clear plan for retirement. one that covers health care costs, taxes, and any other uncertainties while still giving you the flexibility to make changes to your plan as often as you need. because when you're with fidelity, a partner who makes sure every step is clear, there's nothing to stop you from moving forward. ♪ here's wishing you the bluest sky ♪

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cost now to improve readiness. last week, we mistakenly included canada. new canadian fathers do indeed gets paid leave. thanks for being apart of my program this week. i will see you next week. hey, i am ryan stelter. this is "reliable sources." we have a sneak peek of sean hannity's super bowl interview with donald trump and how impeachment is taken a long way away from the democratic race. we'll go live to the reporters there. how the news coverage of kobe bryant is sparking necessary conversations of journalistic et adequate. the ayes have it, impeachmentment impeachment in iowa are competing for attention. trump's trial is expected to end in a few