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aag is working to make your retireme... better. don't wait. get your info kit now! good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, the breaking news. the first results from the chaotic iowa caucuses finally starting to come in tonight. we're standing by for more results. we have 62% of the vote in. so, obviously, more to go, but right now, pete buttigieg is in the lead with 26.9% of the state's delegates so far. bernie sanders in second. and it's a close second. 25.1%. elizabeth warren, 18.3%. and joe biden coming in fourth, 15.6% of the vote. just moments ago, buttigieg reacted to the news.
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>> we don't know all of the numbers, but we know this much. a campaign that started a year ago with four staff members, no name recognition, no money, just a big idea, a campaign that some said should -- has taken its place at the front of this race to replace the current president with a better vision for the future. >> all right. so, that's, you know, his victory speech, of course, as we said, he said more numbers are still to come in. we're only at 62% and the sanders campaign is not giving an inch. senior official telling cnn we will be in first when it's all counted. and, of course, on the popular vote, he is slightly ahead right now. buttigieg. but it is delegates that matter and on that front, pete buttigieg currently the winner. jeff zeleny is "outfront" in des moines, iowa. so, jeff, 62% reporting so far,
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so give us a sense of what that means. what is the significance of what's left? how much could this move? do we have any idea when we will find out who really has won iowa? >> reporter: erin, that is the central question. i'm told it's not likely to happen this evening, but they're not being very specific on when these other votes and records will come in. but, look, i mean, there is a sense of relief here and at least among democratic officials that the counting is started. it was no question that last night was essentially viewed as a disaster. the chairman of the iowa democratic party stood before reporters today and apologized. they said they didn't get it right and then they went on to the counting. so i think we'll set that story aside for a second and stay under this story here. the thing that's striking about pete buttigieg is his strength across the counties. they released 32%, but it was from, you know, an array of 99 counties, all 99 counties in iowa, so that is showing you the depth of support. bernie sanders, of course, right behind him. even if bernie sanders happened
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to eclipse him, he's run for president before. and this is a former they your of south bend, indiana, small town who clearly has done something. he clearly has been able to win over iowans. now, it's the beginning of the road for him in some respects, as a top-tier candidate. we'll see how this goes on in new hampshire. we are still watching the numbers this evening to see joe biden, in particular. he's having a rough go of it in most parts of the state. his advisers have sort of raised some questions about these, but tonight, they're pretty silent, erin. >> all right. thank you very much, jeff zeleny. and i want to go to john king at the magic wall because when you break this down, john, county by county, and i know you're looking at a delegate count and you're also looking at a popular vote count. when you look at the map and the counties, it is incredibly telling and really, you know, distills this, so show us what you know so far. >> very, very important, erin, to emphasize as jeff just noted, 62%, so the colors you're seeing could change. this light green is pete buttigieg. this is the 38-year-old mayor of
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a relatively -- former mayor of a relatively small city. openly gay. military veteran. who is at the moment leading a senator who's run for president before. a senator who is a national liberal icon and former vice president and senator who served for eight years in the white house with barack obama. if you're pete buttigieg, all this green at the moment gives you pretty powerful bragging rights that you've come out of the starting gate. jeff just noted it's the depth and breadth of this when you look at it. 99 counties in iowa in 63 of them, pete buttigieg is either leading or these white counties here are places where he is tied. that is an impressive organization across the state. another thing to look, way to look at it is remember, 31 counties in iowa voted twice for barack obama and flipped, erin, for donald trump. they're called pivot counties. mayor buttigieg said, i can win those counties. you want a guy from the midwest who can appeal to centrist voters. you see them now. look at all this. 31 of them. sanders won some of them, klobuchar won two of them. a lot of strength for pete buttigieg to make the case he's now trying to make in new hampshire. biden is not the electable guy, i'm the electable guy.
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we're going to watch this play out, watch the final results come in, but this is pretty broad depth of support. senator sanders running second. his campaign says they can make this up right now. we'll see. big questions going into new hampshire, how many tickets out of iowa, especially when we get the results a day late, if you will. senator warren says she's in the fight if neighboring new hampshire. the former vice president. senator klobuchar, pretty strong performance. not enough just yet. we'll see when the final votes come in. mayor buttigieg gets a bounce into new hampshire. senator sanders currently leads in new hampshire. a fun week ahead. >> it's amazing. as you look at the map, you do see the breadth of mayor buttigieg as opposed to joe biden certainly. fewer, you look at that map, counties you see with amy klobuchar. when you look at what's still missing, john, nearly 40% of the results, so tell us where those are. how significant they are. what do we need to look for in those to figure out how much this could move? >> so in the sanders campaign says just wait, we think we have a strong organization, we have people on the ground last night, we're going to get better, let's
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give them the benefit of the doubt. again, at the moment, mayor buttigieg leading in delegates. senator sanders as you noted, can show you with the time vote so far, senator sanders is 1,190 votes ahead. this is bragging rights but we view this, the real winner is based on delegates. let's remember that as we go forward. the point the sanders campaign makes, let's pull out dubuque county, for example, mayor buttigieg is leading here over senator sanders by a bit, but we're at 51% here. let's move back down. i just want to give you one point of reference before we do this. why am i looking in the eastern part of the state? let's go back to 2016. h this light blue is bernie sanders. this, erin, is the progressive part of the state where he ran strongest. a lot of buttigieg there, made inroads not only in moderate rural areas but the progressive counties here. let's give the sanders campaign, let's see what happens here. scott county, which is dav davenport, it's close, buttigieg on top. still, only at half the vote. the sanders campaign says wait. we will. at the moment, that's a buttigieg map. >> all right. john king. thank you very much.
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and i want to go now to our chief political correspondent dana bash, david gergen who advised four presidents, mark preston, our senior political analyst, the former democratic mayor of tallahassee, andrew gillam. former special assistant to president george w. bush, scott jennings. karen finney who was the communications director for the dnc and senior spokesperson for hillary clinton's 2016 campaign. so, so, dana, 62% and we have to keep emphasizing that as john said, that map, the colors could change as well as fill in. so, you know, we have a lot we don't yet know. but when he shows, you look at pete buttigieg, as you heard the mayor say, himself, if that's a marginal exaggeration or not, pretty much in line with where he was a year ago. here he is making inroads as john points out in progressive and moderate parts of the tate. >> no question, you have to take a step back and give him his due. he has bragging rights that we should, you know, give him. the fact that he was nobody from -- i'm not saying south bend is nowhere, but it's the
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middle of the country, it is a very small town, certainly compared to where the other candidates who he is competing against are from, name-brand candidates including, and especially, two-term vice president of the united states, you know, who was the guy at the top of the ticket, barack obama, was incredibly popular in the state of iowa. not only did he make his name in the caucuses by beating hillary clinton, he also won in the general election twice. a state that donald trump won last time by, you know, by a large margin. so, that gives pete buttigieg a lot of -- kudos for that. the question is, where does he take that? and it's a big open question that i'll let a lot of you talk about who have done this for a living. the democrats, particularly when you look at the road ahead, maybe not so much new hampshire, but south carolina and other southern states where he has to widen the demographic base of his support. >> and, mark, you know, i think it's important when people
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understand iowa's giving more data than they gave before. >> right. >> maybe chaotic and late and disastrous, but nonetheless, more. not just the winner, the delegate count, also the popular vote. >> right. >> that's what sanders is seizing on right now saying we're going to come out first. they mean overall. they're looking at the popular vote and say, look, we're winning there. so this is not yet over. they're contesting it at this point. >> they're contesting it and, wow, just go back four years when hillary clinton won the popular vote. you know, much of the chagrin of president donald trump. you know, this is an interesting situation where it just goes to show you how antiquated system really -- that the caucuses are. as much as that i love going to iowa, as much as i do think that the people in iowa really try hard to get it right and they understand the issues and they understand the candidates, running it as a caucus just, it's a disaster. it turns out to be a disaster. and -- and i feel bad, actually, for all the folks that were involved because they're all
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good folks. i mean, you know, these chairmen of these state parties, they're not making money. i mean, they don't get paid very well. all the people that are running these caucuses are volunteers. but the fact of the matter is, iowa's certainly in jeopardy now because of it. >> and what, david, stands out to you? obviously, pete buttigieg coming out at the current time with 62% on top. but then what stands out to you? amy klobuchar gets more counties than joe biden. >> i think the big story tonight is joe biden. you know, the fact that he did as poorly as he did, he has to come back now in new hampshire. at least be in the top two oar three, at a minimum, be in the top two or three. they're going to set up south carolina as a firewall. i think he's been hurt by tonight. this -- this was a test about how well he's going to -- he worked hard to try to win iowa. so i think that's a big story. i want to go back to pete buttigieg. there is a quality about this which, you know, i think dana's right, see where this goes now, but there are at least two cases that i remember of unknowns who struck those early sparks and
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one was jimmy carter in 1980 and the other was barack obama. and both cases, they brought an idealism to the table. in a time when people were really angry with washington. really fed up with it. in all sorts of ways. their idealism sparked a big rallying behind them. i don't know whether buttigieg can do that or not, but i can tell you, if he makes that happen, he is going to be very, very strong. >> and, mayor, what do you make? there are a lot of people who obviously -- it was expected he would do well in iowa. if he really does come out on top, in a sense even if he comes in a close second, he's gotten this initial "he won" moment, that is something. in and of itself, that is something. people are going look at him again. what does that mean? >> yeah. >> to this race? >> well, first of all, he is owed what is due to him. that's a pretty incredible not just comeback but just come-up story that he's got to tell. and i don't want to take anything from bernie sanders as well. he's got probably one of the most resilient, consistent bases that we've seen in politics but
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to the point that both professor gergen as well as dana made, i was a harvard fellow, so i -- professor gergen. but to the point that they made, the reason why joe biden is not dead in the water based off of this performance yesterday is that the trajectory down the line still, frankly, bodes well for him. diverse populations, diverse constituencies, still have the opportunity to present him a win later on. what we are not sure of right now based off of last night's performance given the absence of diversity in a state like iowa is whether or not pete buttigieg has what it takes to bring together the diversity, the full diversity, of the democratic party. it's hard to call him a front-runner with single-digit black support. >> i want to talk a lot more about biden and his role in a few moments. i thing it's worthy of an entire conversation. karen, when it comes to bernie sanders, you know, what -- what does he do here? because pete buttigieg is now going to make the argument,
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okay, i can -- i can take away from joe biden, people expect that, people put us in the same breath in terms of policy and substance. >> right. >> he's also shown on this map he can take from the progressives. right? that's something he can also say. although i suppose you can look at the numbers from elizabeth warren and bernie sanders and do what some people will do which is add them together and say, you got it. >> right. >> but if i'm senator sanders, i'm looking ahead to new hampshire where i know i have a home-field advantage, right? >> fair. >> he's already kind of declaring a win out of iowa, anyway. right? with the popular vote. and then the other piece of this is so many democrats now, and this was always the intention when we changed the calendar to add nevada and south carolina to what the mayor just said, you have to tlook look at it in the. what voters are going to look at, who can win in the north, south, the southeast and the midwest? buttigieg has to show he can turn this into momentum that could actually help him in nevada, could help him in south carolina. will he be able to organize the way he was able to do in iowa? and for senator sanders, he can point to successes in nevada and south carolina to help continue
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his momentum and i suspect he'll have a good day in new hampshire. >> and, scott, you know what we saw a lot of last night and through the day today from some of the president's allies was trying to use the word, "rigged," play in on that, and get into the whole thing about what's going on in iowa. now what could come out of this as david just said is someone with a spark. not who they might have expected or were preparing for, joe biden or bernie sanders, two very well-known figures but perhaps someone very different. >> i think the democratic primary is in for a very long and divisive fight here. the idea that buttigieg, i think, would be able to sort of end this early with some kind of a spark, i mean, the sanders people are not going away. biden is obviously going to stay in it. warren feels like she may -- you know, warren got robbed of a comeback kid story line because of the mishaps out there, so i think -- i think you're still looking for a lot of fragmentation here. just like it was in 2016. you know what, fragmentation in the 2016 republican primary give us, donald trump.
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you know who's the most trump-like candidate in this race? bernie sanders. he has an unmovable base, unaffected by the news, small-dollar donors. as well as the democrats do not coalesce around an anti-sanders candidacy, to me he remains the most dangerous person to get nominated. >> all right. all of you, i did say i want to talk about joe biden and joe biden just came in in fourth place, right? these are the first results. at the first look here, fourth place for the former vice president. so, what does his campaign think and his donors? because that matters a whole lot to him. those big donors about the path forward. plus the bloomberg campaign about to double its ad spending after iowa. his campaign manager will be my guest. and president trump taking advantage of the chaos surrounding the caucus results. what he is saying as he prepares to deliver his state of the union here in washington tonight. into a smaller life?
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[ disthave you ever wondered [ distant band playing ] what the motorcade driver drives when they're not in a motorcade? [ upbeat music starts ] [ engine revving ] ♪ this one drives a volkswagen passat. ♪ let's listen to bernie sanders. he's speaking in milford, new hampshire, right now, currently running in second in iowa. here he is. >> we received more votes on the first and second round than any other candidate.
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[ cheers and applause ] now, that is -- that is with 62% of the vote in. for some reason in iowa, they're having a little bit of trouble counting votes. but i am confident that here in new hampshire, i know they'd be able to count your votes on election night. and when you count those votes, i look forward to winning here in new hampshire. but i do want to take this opportunity, just having flown back from iowa, to thank our grassroots supporters there. just as the case here in new hampshire, they have knocked on hundreds of thousands of doors and that is how you win elections. so, to our friends in iowa, thank you, and to the extraordinary volunteer team we have here in new hampshire, thank you. that's why we're going to win here.
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tomorrow, i fly back to washington to cast a vote for the impeachment of donald j. trump. >> and that is bernie sanders speaking in milford, new hampshire. where, as he said, he's getting ready to come back to washington, but obviously right now running in second in iowa. we do still have nearly 40% of the vote, though, still to come in. here's a big question, though, about iowa, and that question is, what about joe biden? a longtime democratic fund-raiser who supports joe biden calls the first iowa results disappointing. the donor telling cnn, "you sit there wondering how can the totals be this low for a former vice president?" and here are the totals currently. biden right now in fourth place,
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which is more than ten points behind pete buttigieg. 62%, as we said, of the precincts are currently reporting. "outfront," arlett has been covering the biden campaign. what are they saying about these currently disappointing results? >> reporter: well, erin, i spoke to a biden adviser just a short while ago who told me they had hoped that they would have more, but that they're not entirely surprised by the results of these caucuses that are just starting to come in. they argue that they always thought iowa was going to be difficult for joe biden, in part based on the demographics of the state and that they're not concerned because of what they see that lies ahead. specifically, pointing to states like nevada and south carolina which have a much more diverse demographic as well as super tuesday states. the biden campaign has long said that iowa was not a must-win for them in order to win the nomination, but they did invest a lot of time and resources in the state, particularly in the past two months because they needed to have a strong finish. they're falling a bit short from
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where they wanted to be. and you point to that comment from that donor and that's something that biden is going to have to grapple with in the coming weeks as he gets closer to each of these contests. one, ensuring that his donors are still supportive of him and also that argument about electability. that has been at the center of his message here throughout the presidential campaign. and that's something that he's likely going to be stressing over and over. now, he is here in new hampshire, will actually be speaking in just a few minutes. i'm told that much of his message will remain the same during this new hampshire swing. there may be some more uptick in his criticism of medicare for all which is espoused by bernie sanders and they see health care as being a winning issue for them. but erin, i have to tell you, i talked to a few voters here who are undecided and they told me that they weren't necessarily swayed by those iowa caucus results. erin? >> all right. arlette, thank you very much. an interesting anecdote there from the voters. everyone back with me. mark, arlette points out
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something very important with joe biden and that is joe biden is different than others running, not all, than certainly bernie sanders or elizabeth warren. even mayor pete in some ways. mayor pete has a lot of big donors but joe biden has a lot of big donors. so for him, you know, you got to keep getting that big money coming in. and that big money means big results. so how much does this hurt him? >> well, it does. look, it certainly doesn't help him. right? i think we can all agree to that. i'll be the contrarian on the panel just because it's my way. >> that's who you are. who you are. >> i just think that sometimes we need to look at things a little bit differently. right? so obviously, he did not do very well in iowa. he does need to do well in new hampshire. look, if he doesn't win south carolina, win it convincingly -- >> it's over. >> -- okay, then it's over. however, though, and i think, mr. mayor, you and i were talking about this, 3:00, 4:00, in the morning, you know, as we were going through all this, there are states ahead that he is going to do well in. >> yeah. >> he can do well in. and i also wonder if there's going to be this centrist
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business democratic class that's going to look and say, oh, my, bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, ten-alarm fire, with e better do something about it, get into biden because, you know what we -- >> we got bloomberg, too. >> sure. bloomberg, you know, is going to come in. all that spending, look, bloomberg is positioning himself very well. i think all the money he's throwing at it, though, is turning off some democrats because they do think he's buying the election in many ways. but i do wonder if biden, because people don't know buttigieg as well, they don't know klobuchar, if biden is somebody who's known, i think he has fuel. >> mark, i agree with you on a lot of those points, but one thing i will tell you, i was in iowa, went to one of the last, if not the last, biden events before the caucuses and he had every, you know, democratic person you can imagine, not all the endorsements but really good ones and they spoke and they spoke and they spoke. and it's not always telling, you guys know this because you
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worked far lot of candidates, you've been a candidate, to feel the energy in the room but it wasn't really there for him. and so that ended up being a precursor for what we saw, but what we did hear from him there, and at every turn that he makes, is i'm the guy who can beat donald trump, i'm the guy who can beat donald trump. and if the question now, genuinely, we don't know the answer to this, is whether people in new hampshire who sometimes turn their noses up at what happens -- or doesn't happen in iowa, are going to say, okay, we're still going to listen to that, or if they're going to say, really, you can't even do well in iowa? are you the guy who can beat donald trump? we don't know the answer to that. that is up to the biden campaign. >> yeah. you don't know whether, in fact, this is going to puncture his -- the story he's trying to tell. and if he starts -- i think his message has been too limited, i'm the guy who can beat him, because if he falls behind trump, what's his argument? >> right. right. and how much -- dana's point,
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you know, is very well taken, right, sometimes you might have one state say we're going to thumb our nose. >> sure. >> yet, i do wonder how much momentum matters. >> yeah. it matters a lot. >> you put momentum against, okay, an incredibly nondiverse state, i give you that, yet you have momentum and have a number on the board, does that sway vote who are are in states down the line? >> this is why you can't undercut what an early state means. that's why we're all debating whether or not iowa should come first. it has the pow toer to be a wi winnowing state. susses out what's real and what isn't. to david's point, it matters if your argument is that you're the one that can beat donald trump, you actually have to win some races in order for hat that to true. the question is, will people demonstrate the patience week after week, primary after primary, up until the point we get to south carolina that the vice president is the best suited to beat donald trump, if you lose three consecutive races on the way to getting there. >> several weeks there before we get there. >> for sure. >> debates. lots of town halls. two other states. >> let's also remember the first four early states is between 5%
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and 10% of the total delegates you need to win the nomination. >> right. >> so as much as we're putting into this, i think voters are taking a step back, they're taking their time. i think we're going to see very similar to what we saw in 2008 where it was hillary was up then balm was ma obama was up. voters are going to say do we want warren, bloomberg, do we want biden? i think we could very well see several contests where we get a mixed bag. certainly on super tuesday, where you have i think it's 50% of the -- 57% of the delegates that are actually up for grabs in very big states. >> yeah. >> that are very expensive states that do favor the people who have the money to run the ads, not just the ground game. >> this biden electability argument, you know, i'm the one that can beat trump, the rubber hits the road this week because he has a bad showing in iowa. what happened today, you've got the democrats in disarray in iowa and in washington, you got the gallup poll showing donald trump at his highest number of his presidency. a 63% approval rating on the economy. the best for an american president since george w. bush in the months after 9/11 and
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he's about to get an acquittal, maybe a bipartisan acquittal, and impeachment is upside down in "the wall street journal" and gallup poll, if you're a democrat trying to figure out who can beat trump, joe biden looks weak, donald trump looks strong, you're definitely looking around. >> my advice would be, be inspirational. people don't want to vote on inevitability. they don't want to vote on this idea -- next, we're standing by because we're we are hoping for more results out of iowa at any time. as we said, 38% of the votes still outstanding. the sanders campaign insisting that he will end as number one. the actual winner of the delegates in iowa once all the precincts are reported. are they right? plus, former mayor michael bloomberg sees an opening in the iowa chaos, doubling his ad spending. so will it pay off? his campaign manager is "outfront." u build a clear plan for retirement to help cover the essentials, as well as all the things you want to do. because when you have a retirement partner who gives you clarity at every step, there's nothing to stop you from moving forward.
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official telling cnn, quote, we'll be in first when it's all counted. campaign also touting sanders' lead in the raw vote total. "outfront" now, democratic congressman, jayapal. i appreciate your time. 62% in. obviously, 38% still to go. sanders is in second at 25.1% of the vote. will you accept the results, if the margin remains this tight? buttigieg right now only at 26.9%. that is incredibly tight. will you accept those results if that's how tight it is, buttigieg as winner? >> i think all i know is what i saw in iowa and what i see in the numbers which is that bernie sanders is incredibly popular. he is winning the raw vote. i saw across iowa, i kind of barnstormed awariowa. i was in some parts of rural iowa in a little rural town and there's 100 people down in a dark basement ready to go campaign for him. the enthusiasm from young voters, from folks of color. people who traditionally have
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not participated in democracy, i think, was really encouraging. and so i remain confident that bernie sanders will pull it out in the end. and i just think it's a real shame that we are still waiting because, obviously, the momentum from iowa matters to new hampshire. >> and, you know, on this issue of how well sanders is doing in the popular vote, obviously, up there, i meaning delega, delega determines the winner of the state. he's up on popular vote right now. i want to look at the map, again, though, congresswoman, to get your reaction to this. when you see the counties buttigieg is winning, see now in the pale greenwich dominates the state of iowa, then let's look at the ones sanders is winning in blue. obviously, you got a lot of people in those. when you lock at breadth across the state, buttigieg so far is dominating. there's no other way to put it when you look at those colors. >> well, i think one of the things we have to remember, and i love iowa, but iowa doesn't necessarily represent everywhere else in the country.
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we have an enormous number of base voters, young voters, folks of color, who i think this is a turning point for the democratic party. we have to decide if we are going to engage and inspire those people so we can bring them into the system and make the kinds of structural reforms that bernie sanders is pushing. and i think that it is very important that we don't forget that at the end of the day, the democratic party base is critically important. we cannot take them for granted. we have to expand the electorate. if we are going to make this country work for people again, erin. >> so, i want to ask you, i know, obviously, you're hoping he comes out on top. you're a very measured person. but the president's team has been trying to push a narrative that the caucus is rigged. right? eric trump tweeted, "mark my words, they're rigging this thing. what a mess." and senator sanders, himself, as used that word many times, "rigged," in reference to the 2016 primary being rigged against him. just the other day, his senior adviser, jeff weaver, was complaining about a rules
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change, you know, the change that allows bloomberg to be on the democratic debate stage in nevada and weaver said in part, quote, that's a rigged system. do you agree or think that word is being thrown around way too much? the sanders campaign should back off it as well because it's hurting faith in the system? >> well, i think the economy is rigged. i have thought that for a long time. when you have three people in the country, erin, who have the same combined wealth as 160 million americans, that's a rigged economy. now, i think the dnc, and i said this publicly, the dnc changed the rules in this situation, but how come the dnc didn't change the rules in order to get cory booker or julian cast ro to be p on the stage so we'd have a diversity of presidential candidates? i think these are the kinds of decisions that matter. >> do you think that is really based on race, that they rigged that on race? is that what you're implying? >> i'm not -- i'm saying that if rules are changed for a billionaire, then i don't know why they can't be changed to
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ensure that we have diversity that represents the breadth and depth of the democratic party. i don't know if that's rigged or not. >> said it was changed because they went off of polls which, of course, tom perez was very open about, they went off of polls. didn't look at the color of someone's skin, he looked at how they were doing in the polls. do you not buy that argument? >> i just think -- look, tom perez is a good friend. i think he's don't a gree a gren many levels. i think these are the kinds of things that reinforce distrust of the democratic party. we are trying to do everything we can to unify the democratic party, but when there are things like this that happen, when there are, you know, big mistakes like using an app in iowa that apparently was never tested for the kind of turnout that we were expecting, and then you have a mess that doesn't provide us with a winner six days before the next primary election, and these states understand -- i come from washington state, we're not until the middle of march, but these states determine so much
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about the future of the election and so i just think we have to be incredibly careful about making sure we are really doing everything possible to show that we appreciate our base, that we appreciate the diversity and that we are committed to making sure everyone is a part of our democracy. >> congressman jayapal, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you very much. again, she, of course, supports bernie sanders. next, michael bloomberg is jumping in taking advantage of the chaos in iowa. doubling his campaign ad spending. will it work? his campaign manager is "outfront." and we're standing by for joe biden's first comments since the iowa results started coming in. coming up live in just a couple moments. man: sneezes skip to the good part with alka-seltzer plus. now with 25% more concentrated power. nothing works faster for powerful cold relief. oh, what a relief it is! so fast!
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all right. tonight as we are awaiting more results, mike bloomberg doubling down, you see him speaking there in philadelphia. he's seizing an opening amid the iowa chaos. a state he chose not to compete in. he's now doubling his ad dollars. already they top $300 million. his opponents are now in new hampshire, but he, of course, is focusing on those battleground states including pennsylvania. focused on the general election.
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>> i'm here in michigan because this is a state we have -- look, we have to win this state in november if we're going to beat donald trump. >> "outfront" now, kevin sheekey, bloomberg's campaign manager, longtime political aide. great to have you with me. top three finishers in iowa as of now, progressives, bernie sanders and elizabeth warren and pete buttigieg currently leading. "bloomberg news," ironically, wrote an article as you all released an economic plan this weekend and they said that the plan adopts several of the policy ideas that bloomberg's moderate competitors including biden and buttigieg have touted. buttigieg coming out on top in iowa. how big of a challenge is that for you? >> how big a challenge is it, i think, i've always said, i said last week, i think there are two tickets out of iowa. i think mayor pete as one of them. i think we've all -- i said -- but it's the history of this country since 1976, if you don't win either iowa or new hampshire, you do not get to go
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on to be the nominee of either party. democrat or republican. pete and i think bernie are essentially in a tie. we'll see what happens in new hampshire next. >> so the trump campaign was very active in iowa in the past week. they sent in vice president pence. they sent in six cabinet secretaries. six cabinet secretaries to iowa. several congressional republicans, essentially, testing their field program in iowa. there was a republican caucus last night. trump got more total votes than obama got as an incumbent when he ran in 2012. lot of people didn't even realize trump had anything going on there last night. but he did and he had six cabinet secretaries campaigning for him. how concerning should that be to democrats, you know, a state you all, you know, aren't even at this point contesting? >> listen, i think it's concerning on a lot of levels. one, we as a party, democratic party b ha party invested every dollar in the state of iowa, the. president is likely to win, we're not likely to contest it at all. listen, you and i talked about it before. this president is
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extraordinarily formidable. i think he's going to be very tough to beat. why mike bloomberg is running the campaign he is. six states. iowa will not be one of those in november. mike was in detroit this morning. michigan will be one. in front of 1,700 people in philadelphia tonight because philadelphia will be -- pennsylvania will be another. this president is very tough and has worked very hard in battleground states to position himself. i think he's going to be very difficult to dislodge. i think we as democrats are going to have to work very hard and together to do that. >> so you're doubling your ad spending. i don't know if you heard congresswoman jayapal who supports bernie sanders, you know, was -- just talking about you getting on the debate stage in nevada and she said, essentially, just bought your way in. and that she considers that to be unfair. your response? >> what i think is unfair is the biden camp would use disinformation as freely as the president would. simple google search -- >> sanders, sorry. she supports sanders. >> okay. well, she's wrong. and it's important she would use disinformation like that. mike bloomberg is not on the
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debate stage. what the democratic party said, if you have 10% support in qualifying polls or 15% or 20% or 30%, you should be on the debate stage so people can hear you. it's the first time you can be on the debate stage without running around raising millions of dollars from special interests, but mike bloomberg or anyone else that has the support of one in ten voters in this country polled by cnn and other networks should be on that stage and certainly mike bloomberg hopes to and expects to be one of those people. >> all right. thank you very much. kevin sheekey, i appreciate your time. >> thank you, erin. and next, joe biden making his first comments since the iowa results started coming in. hear what he's saying right after this. unpredictable crohn's symptoms following you? for adults with moderately to severely active crohn's disease, stelara® works differently. studies showed relief and remission,
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joining right now in fourth place with 62% of the precincts reporting. i mean, if you came that far back, you would find a way to try to justify what just happened. and unfortunately, it's a bit unjustifiable. this is a difficult place for him to be in. and as we all talked about earlier, the vice president is really going to have to get it together for new hampshire. as we go into nevada, which should be a state that is much more open and available to him, especially given the labor support that exists there and then into south carolina, but if any of that starts to crumble, honestly, i fear for what this means and think what we just saw with bloomberg's campaign adviser's interview, we'll see a lot more regularly. there will be a case to be made. >> he's saying, kevin sheekey, bloomberg's campaign manager, saying they see two tickets out of iowa, two tickets out of the first two states, you have to
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win one of them. >> yep. >> look, this is their spin on it. he's setting it up as if joe biden doesn't win new hampshire -- >> which i thing that's a little bit fatalistic. i think joe biden can make it all the way through south carolina, think he needs to do fairly well in new hampshire knowing he's going to do well in south carolina, i think nevada's probably going to be a little bit more of a tossup because we've seen that younger labor voters support bernie sanders. and potentially older labor i think will potentially go for biden. so there may be a split. but part of this is expectation setting. everybody's got their spin about why last night was the most important thing that ever happened. and why it doesn't really matter. and unfortunately, because of what actually happened with the app, it does create a bit of a cloudy, murky situation. >> and, of course, it does, but you're going to say, okay, which way do you people want to spin this? do you see pete buttigieg as rick santorum or barack obama? >> i'm saying -- >> very different stories out of iowa, right? you can win iowa and have your big moment. and it does not mean you're the nominee. who knows. >> i mean, let me help the vice president, wa just -- he's been on this earth long enough to recognize a butt whooping when
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one occurs. he got beat last night. not only did he finish down the list, he got beat by someone else who's in his zone of the party. pete buttigieg. and so to me, you go to new hampshire, and you don't win or you don't do well over there, it's a long way to go and a long time to get to south carolina. i don't know how you raise enough money to keep it afloat, that long and then it's super tuesday. >> i have to say, he put in the time. you've been in iowa many times. i was out with joe biden in iowa in november. he did a town hall. he sat there the whole hour. every commercial break, he's in the audience arguing with the professors. it was grinnell college on health care. stayed for hours afterward. >> right. >> the guy put the time in. in iowa. >> mark. >> generational. specifically where we were when we saw him, you know, that time, he has a generational issue right now. and that's understandable. i mean, he's not going to be able to relate the same way that a mayor pete buttigieg would resonate. >> yeah, the message, i just don't think you can say, you know, about the past, elections
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are about the future. he's already going against the fact that he's been in politics so long. give us something we can hold on to. paint a picture. i can see myself and my family in for the future. not the past. >> although, there is an irony sometimes that message is not always correlated with age. you take donald trump who is just a couple years younger than joe biden. >> sure. he has a message out about the future, so does elizabeth warren. >> exactly. >> biden's remarkably blank on that in terms of what's in people's minds. i do wonder if he had been hurt by the whole attack on his son. all the stuff he's gone through. and he looked tired this weekend. he looked a little bit out of sorts. i will tell you this, bloomberg looks at this and sees the other three tickets out of iowa right now are three people that by most conventional wisdom cannot beat donald trump or will not beat donald trump. so bloomberg looks at that, iowa's -- biden is wounded and you got three other people who can't win, that's the recipe for
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him coming in big. that's why he's -- >> which is what he's doing. >> he's coming in really big. >> he's coming in hot. coming in hot as they say. >> money. >> all right. thank you, all, so very much. thanks for joining us. as we await more results from iowa. president trump preparing to give his state of the union in an hour. our special coverage continues right after this short break. we made usaa insurance for members like kate.
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good evening. we're about to witness something extraordinary. president trump will soon leave the white house and walk into the house chamber where he was impeached to deliver his state of the union address about an hour from now. i'm anderson cooper with a special edition of "a.c. 360," promises to be an incredibly awkward moment as president trump addresses the nation on nancy pelosi's turf with the speaker looking over his shoulder. he'll be face-to-face with her and with the house democrats who charged him with high crimes and misdemeanors. also in the room, jurors at his impeachment trial, the senators will vote tomorrow whether to e remove him from office. republican majority poised to
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