tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN February 10, 2020 9:00pm-10:00pm PST
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>> you're watching the fist votes in the nation in the primary come in. in dix ville notch. it happens every year. we cover it live. what you're seeing is the four people who actually live there. going back in the behind the curtain. the flag. and voting and putting it into the wooden box. this will be the fourth one. we'll get results here soon. but there you go. usually they write it on the board. and then we get to see who it is. so let's listen in to the select man talking now. >> aye.
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polls are closed. we will begin counting. opening up the ballot box now. >> they closed the polls. and he's opening up the box to begin the count. >> you have to love it. they just put it in there. there's the lock and key. it doesn't get anymore transparent than that. we saw them. put the ballot --. joining me here. we'll see them in a moment. they'll count the votes. they're about to do the count. tallying votes.
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>> one vote for bloomberg. >> they'll write him in there. they'll keep counting here. as we wait for them to count, the tradition is strong. it's 60 years. 60th anniversary of this every presidential cycle they do this. this is the 100th anniversary of the primary. this is down home politics at its best. >> three of the -- the eventual winner of three of the last five general elections. it doesn't usually take ta long to count. we won't have an iowa situation here. because the votes count. we saw it happening in front of us. >> that's right.
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what's interesting about this the precinct is that candidates do flock here. reagan campaigned here. the bush's campaigned here. clinton came here as governor of arkansas. last presidential cycle, it was john kasich came here. michael bennett came a couple days ago. they do come here. there is interest here. candidates putting in their mark. >> john kasich won here. last time. didn't end up being the nominee. this is the last ballot i believe to be counted. we'll get it soon. >> we will. i heard the name pete buttigieg. we have at least one for bloomberg and buttigieg. the moment is here. looks like we have another
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bloomberg. he's not even up this. >> upset in the making. >> listen, they can talk all they want about iowa. if they want to change it. many people will be okay with that. they won't be okay if you change dix ville notch. results. >> republican there was one vote cast. a write in for bloomberg. republican side. >> on the democrat side. one vote for buttigieg.
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one vote for sanders. and two write in votes for mike bloomberg. certainly big surprise there. >> bloomberg two write in votes on the democratic side ask one on the republican side. so there are the final results. pete buttigieg with one. sanders with one. bloomberg with three total votes. within on the republican side. and two on the democratic side. so, bloomberg as far as we know didn't come to this town once. and he has won dix ville notch. woer waiting for the results of the two other locations in new hampshire. mills field and hearts location. the other two that are holding midnight votes.
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they're about to gavel this to a close. >> yeah. >> and you have -- what's interesting alsz also is the undeclared voters in new hampshire. vastly out number the registered democrats and republicans. so this is not necessarily a total surprise that bloomberg wins out here. but there you have it. bloomberg with three votes. >> okay. so there you go. thank you. you did a great job as usual. every year. we appreciate it. let's bring in now cnn ploliticl analyst. we have an upset. >> shocking. >> bloomberg got a write in on the republican side. and he gets two votes on the democratic side. sanders got one. buttigieg got -- >> he crushed the field. >> lapped them. >> tsunami for bloomberg. >> this is the second time in
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the last three election we have the these results before the iowa results. with rick santorum we didn't have the results. >> these will be the first votes in the nation. in the future. >> this is a historic day. this is the last day that iowa and new hampshire will be the one, two. 48 years this iowa new hampshire and dominated the early stages of the race. it's almost inconceivable they will be again. it will be new hampshire first. probably followed by a diverse state. by law it's reflective of the political culture. which is so protective of the idea of being first. >> and loves to turn things on its head and be unpredictable. i love dix ville notch. >> extension of it's a wonderful life. >> it remind you of the inn in
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white christmas. tap dancing through the ballroom. >> similar idea. >> it's really interesting a guy not on the ballot here. who is now proving that maybe money can buy you. >> we talked about this. i tell you my one woman focus group is my mother. in louisiana. who said she was all in on biden. and goes but if that's not if that doesn't happen, i have to say it's bloomberg. i said, mom, why? there's a whole thing about african-americans and stop and frisk. she said i don't care about that. i care about someone who can beat trump. if it's not biden it's going to be bloomberg. i think it's interesting that the results are what they are. what do you say? >> that maybe a predictor. of what we'll see down the line. biden collapses which he is.
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is the guy spending $300 million is likely to be the beneficiary of that. >> younger african-americans i think it's a generational thing. >> bloomberg right now is playing tennis without a net. just out there selling himself on tv. no one is dealing with our debate ore a dime on tv reminding people about stop and frisk. it's similar to sanders except medicare for all. all of the other issues of the candidates they could have brought up they chose not to. bloomberg especially. at some point to be the nominee to really seriously compete. he'll have to start debating. when he does when the radar is in motion, it could look different. it might not. he hasn't been litigate td against. >> isn't he a formidable debater? >> he has a lot of liability.
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>> that's the problem. we'll see how he handles the issues. the money he spent in 2016. he was supporting gun control and -- >> he explains why there's brett kavanaugh. >> okay. we have mills field in. we have one biden. one for buttigieg. two for klobuchar. and one sanders. klobuchar wins in mills field. there we go. so what does that say? klobuchar i see a dark horse. here go again. >> the little engine that might. >> there's some energy there. the question is whether as
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whether a thinker place finish in new hampshire is enough to really give you the oxygen to take it to the next level. there's no question. i was at an echt for her before this. there's a lot of energy. people see her as someone who might be able to run well against trump. and she's funny. and energetic and finding an audience. >> strong debate skills and maybe the one viable woman left after tomorrow night. >> we have bloomberg who has three. he's in the lead now. klobuchar has two. and we have sanders now has two. and biden has one. >> 75,000 more to go. >> take the primary. we're waiting for one more to come in. we have the hearts location. what's taking you so long?
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>> using an app. the democratic app. >> has this -- we have said that -- there we go. hearts location live. getting their act together. and counting. they don't have very much residents. again, i don't know if this is a predictor of anything. they predicted three of the last five. >> holings. president holings came out of dix ville notch. the last it's interesting in the democratic side the last four iowa winners have been the nominee. even when new hampshire has gone the other way. sanders got 60% here in 2016. and clinton beat obama in 2008. each time it was the iowa winner who won. so we'll see it seems highly possible that the results will diverge again here. if you count buttigieg the winner in iowa.
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certainly sanders is the favorite here in new hampshire. >> what does that say trump got nothing so far? >> bloomberg got the nod here. on the republican side. >> i'm betting on trump when the actual votes come in. >> massachusetts. it would have been somewhere in new york. vote for bloomberg. >> they have a place to stay on the premise. >> so we're waiting on the next location. can we put the results back up? so we can let everyone know this is not an iowa situation. votes are being counted. and being counted pretty quickly here. we're waiting on one location. in dix ville notch -- this is. here we go.
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klobuchar. wow. making a move. >> is this the total number? or just from hearts location. buller? total number. add this in with the other numbers we got. yang gets three. write ins, two. buttigieg two. and biden. yang, three. pete, two. buttigieg. biden two. a man amy gets eight. sanders got four. warren has four.
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again, yang has three. we have been saying. the overall winner is klobuchar. the definitive winner. >> i always thought she would be a good candidate here. she appeals to independents. and the pragmatic sensibility. new hampshire lilk likes to be contrarian. and do the opposite. >> she's a little engine that could. she's defied the odds. >> and kept moving forward. like a running back in a pile up. moving forward. and she was saying tonight at the event. they said i wasn't going to make the debate stage, i did. i raised enough money. she is still there. and as someone who can benefit from the voters who think sanders is too out there, and who don't think warren can win. and have had doubts about biden. from watching his performance. >> benefitting from biden. she's picking off biden.
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>> there we go. klobuchar the clear winner in the first of the nation voting in the primary. in the three small towns. we appreciate you joining us. thank you. kick it. >> i appreciate it. thanks for watching. our converage picks up with anderson cooper. >> imposing impeachment retaliation mode in addition to firing two officials who testified. we'll have more on that. focussed rage on u.s. senators who voted against acquittal. the biggest party has been democrat joe manchin. can't say i mind the fact the people of west virginia will never forget his phony vote on the impeachment hoax. read the transcript. which he wouldn't understand anyway. he also tweeted the people of west virginia will no longer look at weak and pathetic joe manchin the same. i got the pension bill approved.
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he couldn't do it. by the way that's not true. the senator introduced the bill in the senate and worked with republicans to get it passed. i spoke to senator manchin about the attacks and whether the president learned anything from this. >> first of all, i want to give you a chance to address the president's attacks on you. calling you weak and pathetic a puppet. >> first of all, they're not unexpected. it is who he is. they're so many problems we have in the country and my state needs a lot of help. we're looking at with the preexisting conditions and infrastructure. we have a big energy bill. we can be working on. i'm not surprised. he wants to call names and this and that. i hope he didn't mean to insult my entire state. saying i didn't understand the transcript. i understood it very well. is he referring to west virginia we can't read or understand?
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i can take the insult. don't insult west virginia. >> for some reason heefs saying romney could understand if he read them. that you couldn't. that might have been a dig at the state itself? >> i hope it wasn't. i can take it. insult me. it doesn't bother me. don't be talking about the people in west virginia. they are the hardest working people you'll meet. he called me a munch kin. the definition is small. i'm bigger than him. he's heavier. but taller wise. >> you said you expected this when schiff during the trial referred to a news report that they had said someone for the white house was telling warning senators that had heads on pikes if they went against the president. and schiff said that, people republicans in the senate actually spoke out loud saying
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that's not true. and seemed upset. collins was angered by it. or indicated she was. it does seem like a essentially that is what has been happening. subsequent once the trial was over. he is essentially trying to put romney's head on a spike. going after you. firing vindman and sondland. and others. >> first of all, the visual at the time and emotions were running high. i'm sure hindsight 2020 it wasn't a the right definition or the right thing that could have been said. schiff could have said listen, i know people are afraid of losing their jobs and the president will take their jobs are making sure they don't gt reelected or a primary. a hard ri mare. and work for the other person. there's so many scenarios. it is coming to fruition now. when you have people who are having the expertise, people
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have served with valor in the country. and you're throwing them out because they didn't do as you wanted exactly. hay did their job. it wasn't the way you wanted it done. that's not who we are. that's not how this country has become the leader of the world. and we are the hope of the world. if we don't get it right nobody else will step to the plate. i'm glad there's real citizens willing. and mitt romney there's not a more sincere person or knowledgeable that you can work with. i enjoy imso much. he'll speak his mind and vote from his heart. we want our president to succeed and no matter who the president is. i'll work with him. they have to be able to understand criticism comes and we call it constructive criticism. we want you to be better. we want to help you. here's what's wrong. he doesn't take it well. >> some republicans senators suggested that the president is learned his lesson after his
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acquittal. do you think that's the case? >> well, if it is he has to hurry up and start. right now since the impeachment and the vote that we had and where we are today, i haven't seen any of that. i'm hopeful. we'll see. it doesn't look like he's been willing and eager to change. >> attorney general barr confirmed the justice department is set up procedures to receive information from rudy giuliani about ukraine. i know you said earlier today what rudy has done is horrible for the country. is there anything to stop the president from calling rudy giuliani and saying go over and let's get zelensky to launch an investigation. let's do this. >> let's see if the republican colleagues believe we should not have a road proxy. such as rudy giuliani or anyone else. or anybody of elected position on a federal level to use a
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surrogate to use the power of the office they're representing and say so and so sent me. and send somebody and they'll be submissive. that's not who we are adds a country. we can introduce legislation and prent that from happening and hold the person accountable to the american people and laws and constitution. that is wrong. when they said that the justice department i'm going to be able to talk to people in the department and find out if there's special privileges to rudy giuliani. versus any other citizens that has concerns about the well being of the country and information they'll have to protect us or help us. >> senator i appreciate your time. thank you. more on the question of what the president has or hasn't learned from impeachment especially now we know that one of the central figures rudy giuliani is has a direct line to the justice department for whatever he allegedly gathers on
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the bidens. keeping him honest. obama: he's been a leader throughout the country for the past twelve years, mr. michael bloomberg is here. vo: leadership in action. mayor bloomberg and president obama worked together in the fight for gun safety laws, to improve education, and to develop innovative ways to help teens gain the skills needed to find good jobs. obama: at a time when washington is divided in old ideological battles he shows us what can be achieved when we bring people together to seek pragmatic solutions. bloomberg: i'm mike bloomberg and i approve this message. we stood up for the rule of law. for the america we love. eight-point-five-million strong banded together to impeach donald j. trump. president trump has just been impeached on both article one, abuse of power, and on article two, obstruction of congress.
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a moments ago, we talked about this notion that some republican senators expressed before voting to acquit the president that the president haze learned his lesson, wouldn't do it again. keeping 'em honest, what if the only lesson he's learned is that the guardrails are all gone, even for continuing to do what got him impeached in the first place, namely working with rudy giuliani, who is still looking for dirt on the bidens in ukraine. and as we mentioned, he's now got someone to send it to and they're talking about it publicly. >> you said you talked to attorney general barr. >> this morning. >> this morning. >> has the department of justice
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been ordered to investigate the bidens? >> no. the department of justice is receiving information coming out of the ukraine from rudy -- >> already? >> he told me that they have created a process that rudy could give information and they would see if it was verified. >> so there it is. they're not even trying to hide it anymore. the president's tv lawyer and former infomercial spokesman for lifelock, rudy giuliani, is still digging up dirt on ukraine and there's now a process, that's the word lindsey graham used, a process to get that information directly to the department of justice. graham said that on sunday. and today, attorney general barr confirmed it, saying he has an obligation to, quote, have an open door to anybody who wishes to provide us information that they think is relevant. he also said this. >> there are a lot of agendas in the ukraine. there are a lot of crosscurrents, and we can't take anything we receive from the ukraine at face value. and for that reason, we had established an intake process in
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the field, so that any information coming in about ukraine could be carefully scrutinized by the department and its intelligence community partners. >> this applies, apparently, he add, to anything that giuliani might provide, which certainly sounds more skeptical than lynd su graham was yesterday. >> rudy giuliani is a well-known man. he's a crime fighter. he's loyal to the president. he's a good lawyer. >> well, he is a well-known man. not sure about the lawyer. he's not a crime fighter. keeping 'em honest, it's also reported he may be under federal investigation by the southern district of new york, which has already indicted his two ukrainian go-between, lev parnas and igor fruman. he's near a federal investigator or any kind of official. he doesn't have a badge. he's just some disinterested private citizen. he's not just disinterested, he is the president's personal attorney.
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if attorney general barr was telegraphing a certain sense of caution about wholeheartedly embracing whatever giuliani hands him, it's hard to argue he's got no reason for it. by the same token, it's also hard not to argue much of what he said there was the same kind of anodyne language he entered up in what later was an inaccurate of the mueller report. he's accused of acting more like the president's personal attorney than the attorney general. his client is barr's boss. the arrangement they apparently have is now raising questions, unless you ask senator graham, who chairs senate judiciary committee, which is responsible for overseeing the justice department. >> when you're talking about being asked to do these things and a channel being opened between rudy giuliani and the justice department, this sounds a lot like this is in some ways a taxpayer-funded oppo research operation against joe biden. isn't this exactly what was at the heart of the impeachment probe to begin with?
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>> no, not at all. >> maybe the republican senators are right. the president has learned his lesson. he's learned he can do whatever he wants. that's certainly something to talk about with the cnn legal team, toobin and rangappa. jeffrey toobin and asha rangappa. should anyone at the justice department maybe be paying attention to these claims rudy giuliani -- for barr to say, well, anybody can give us information. yeah, i guess you can call 911 if you see something and want to say something, but should giuliani have some line to the -- >> i mean, i pow to no one in my criticism of attorney general barr. i'm somewhat sympathetic to his position here. you know, it is true that at the justice department, people bring them all sorts of accusations, all sorts of information all the time and it gets evaluated. you can't say rudy giuliani can't come in the door anymore with information. i think barr indicated an appropriate level of skepticism about anything that might come
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in here. so, i -- you know, i think this word "channel" that they've created a channel, i would like to know more of what that is, if it's -- if it's something sinister, if it's something like they are setting up prosecutions based on what rudy giuliani says, that would be one thing. if it's just a place to deposit information that gets evaluated like any other information, then i don't really have much of a problem with it. >> asha, with impeachment now over, what stops the president from having giuliani, you know, set up shop down the street from the white house and go over to ukraine and tell, you know, the president of ukraine, zelensky, to launch an investigation? >> yeah, as jeffrey said, i think that the question is, who is giuliani talking to and what's the process? if it is the process that any other person has, which is you call the fbi, get a call or a visit from some agents and you get the information, they look into it, that's one thing. the cnn reporting suggested that giuliani is talking to special
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prosecutors, which to me is putting the cart before the horse a little bit. you know, where is the fbi in all of this? and also, why is this public? why is this being made public, because it seems to me that if they were in taking this information, that they shouldn't be commenting on it al all and it's almost like ukraine 2.0. of trying to achieve in some way what president trump wasn't able to do by getting zelensky to announce the investigation, now they're announcing that there's this channel where i guess giuliani is the investigator and providing information to them. i find it incredibly bizarre, at least the way that it's been framed and the fact that it's been commented on at all. >> they don't really need a special channel. they have fox news. giuliani can just go on there and it's like a special channel. >> exactly. and remember, there are many possibilities for inappropriate behavior on giuliani's part. i mean, one of the most interesting pieces of evidence
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that came out of the trial was the letter that he wrote to zelensky asking for a meeting. presumably he'll still want to meet with zelensky. presumably he'll have demands or requests of zelensky. all of that is wildly inappropriate. >> and that's okay -- >> well, i -- >> under the -- under the republican senators' opinions. >> correct. the lessons not learned are, you know, already on dramatic display. i mean, the firing of the vindman brothers and sondland. >> do you remember -- i mean, i talked about this with joe manchin, that, you know, when adam schiff mentioned the "head on spikes" quote, which someone at the white house was characterizing, that's the message that's being sent to senators about not breaking ranks and going against the president and just going ahead an acquittal, it does seem like that's what they're doing.
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they are, you know, they're not literally putting people's head on a spikes, but they are cutting people off at the knee can trying to destroyed them. >> and you remember, when schiff used that phrase -- >> right, they got all upset. >> they had to go to their fainting couch because they were so outraged by this, this, you know, dramatic image. but, of course, it's exactly what happened. i mean, look at what manchin is going through. it's worse for mitt romney. the other day, they said that mitt romney shouldn't go to cpac, the big conservative meeting, because they couldn't vouch for his personal safety. now, i don't think they were going to put his head on a pike, but i think when you're talking about people's personal safety, that gives you some idea of the venom that is directed at the president's critics. >> asha, if president trump wanted rudy giuliani to be a law enforcement officer of the united states, which lindsey graham seems to appear he actually is, though he's not, he could have nominated him to be attorney general. he could nominate him to work with bill barr. he could, you know, i mean,
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nixon gave elvis a badge. i guess he could give rudy giuliani some sort of a badge. >> right, but then also he could no longer be rudy giuliani's client. as a lawyer. i think it's worth noting that we've spent the last three years hearing that anything that's originate as opposition research cannot form the basis of any kind of an investigation. that it is inherently biased and toxic and part of a witch hunt coup. meanwhile, this has originated as opposition research. giuliani said so on cnn to chris cuomo, that he was digging up dirt on biden. and now there's just, you know, flow of information where they're happy to receive it. you know, i find it incredibly problematic. and -- but i guess, here's -- this is where we are now. >> yeah, for those who were upset about the so-called steele dossier, it does seem like this
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is the giuliani manilla folder dossier. >> and we'll see. you know, i -- this channel -- i mean, if it becomes an actual channel leading to prosecutions, then we should be very worried. in the meantime, maybe not. >> jeff toobin, asha rangappa, thanks very much. coming up, the fallout affluent colonel alexander vindman and his brother were fired. we'll look at the president in full retaliation mode, including against gold star part cesar khan joins us when we return.
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one person said the president on saturday, the president tweeted that lieutenant colonel vindman, a hummer heart recipient was, quote, was very insubordinate. joining me now, kaiser khan, who was posthumously awarded the purple heart and bronze star. currently a surrogate for the biden campaign. mr. khan, thanks for being with us. when you learned that the president had fired lieutenant colonel vindman and his twin brother, one white house adviser described it to cnn as, quote, flushing the pipes. this is obviously two human beings and this is their careers. i'm wondering, what did you think of that? >> well, i was embarrassed for our democracy, for the office of the presidency in american democracy, office of the president is symbol of our rule of law, our decency, but this
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was a shameless act by donald trump, one more time proving that he is unfit for the office and he does not know what the service to the country means and how important that is. >> you don't think he understands the depth of sacrifice the life of somebody who has dedicated themselves to serving their country? >> well, he does not. when his turn came to serve, he ran away. on the other hand, look at the life and example of colonel vindman and his brother, our heros. captain khan and colonel vindman and his brother and their family came to the united states when all three of them were 3 years old.
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all was made in united states, all was made with the goodness of this country. they learned the patriotism, service to the nation, and all of them had been true to their oath that they took to uphold the constitution. vindman's fault is being cited because he abided by the legal subpoena that came from the congress and he spoke truth. >> there are those allies of the president who say, any commander in chief deserves to have whomever he wants serving around him. do you think that's a valid argument in terms of, you know, why shouldn't the president be able to -- you know, if he feels this no longer works, to have vindman in the office, be able to remove him? >> yeah, but look at the context, look at the circumstances, look at the consequences. look at what inspired him to
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state that the removal of colonel vindman. it was because colonel vindman spoke truth and abided by the subpoena of the congress. this is, anderson, a typical trade and character of a third-world dictator authoritarian. they have two enemies, one is the free media and the press and our press and thank you for being part of and being the voice of democracy. second enemy is all of those who oppose the authoritarian, he has that dictator, that authoritarian has no room for them around him in his administration. that is what is being proven again and again. but the good thing is, this time around, the republican senators that acquitted him are realizing the mistake that they have made, that they have authorized him,
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that they have given stamp of approval for him to continue to conduct himself in a third world authoritarian manner. >> there's no evidence to you that he's learned any lesson from the impeachment, which is what some republican senators were claiming. >> well, the facts speak for themselves. that it has gotten worse. he's attacking anyone and everyone. and that is very dangerous. that is anti-democratic. that is not how american democracy works, in the world we had -- our democracy had been a symbol of hope for the rest of the world. this is not the example that we want to set or the president of the united states wants to set for the democracy, for the rest of the world, to follow. >> kaiser khan, i appreciate your time. thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up, we go back to new hampshire, where the candidates are still campaigning. some voters are at odds over their choices tomorrow. more on the front lines.
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let's check in with chris. see what he's working on for "cuomo prime time." chris? >> hey, coop. i've got three interesting guests on tonight. i have senator elizabeth warren who needs a good result in new hampshire. what does that mean? does she accept the premise? that will be interesting. andrew yang sent out a fund-raising letter that he could be done if new hampshire doesn't go the way he needs it to. is that for real? what does that mean? and then we have the governor of the state, chris sununu, who i know from some documentary work i did in that state, and he is so different from trump. why is he supporting him as an outspoken advocate. you know, he's one of the surrogates for the president. why? what does he share in common with him? we'll be taking all of that on. >> see you in about seven minutes from now. up next, with the candidates still on the trail, you'll meet
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with about three hours to go until the first few ballots are cast in dixville notch, the candidates are still campaigning in new hampshire. bernie sanders and pete buttigieg both at late-night events. voters are still hashing out their choices, or in the case of one couple, disagreeing on them. randi kaye tonight has the story. >> i'm voting for senator elizabeth warren. >> i'm supporting pete buttigieg. >> reporter: this new hampshire couple has been happily married nearly 45 years. but clearly, lincoln and kathleen saldoti don't always agree on everything. so you're voting for different candidates in the new hampshire primary. has this ever happened before in all your years of marriage in a presidential campaign? >> not presidential, no. never. >> reporter: how would you describe your marriage right now? >> a mixed marriage, absolutely. >> reporter: mixed politically? >> exactly. my husband and i share a lot of
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values, i think we just have different opinions about who the best person is who can take our values into the white house and be successful. >> reporter: what do you like about elizabeth warren? >> she has a vision that the government and the economy can work for all of us. >> where's elizabeth? oh, here she is. >> reporter: kathleen also likes the idea of a woman president. but her husband is more impressed with pete buttigieg, who he's met at various new hampshire events. >> it's time for a generational change. i mean, you know, sorry to say, but we had our shot. we need new. new people, fresh ideas. >> reporter: they are both registered democrats who voted for hillary clinton in 2016, so to them, electability is key. can a 38-year-old former mayor of a small city defeat donald trump? >> pete buttigieg can. and i think donald trump will have a hard time dealing with him. because he doesn't, he doesn't respond to the gamesmanship, you know?
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>> do you think your candidate, elizabeth warren, could stand up to donald trump in the general? >> oh, i think she already has. i mean, she's already been the recipient of quite a bit of abuse by him. >> frankly, i would love to see a ticket with both of them. i would be very happy with that, in either order. >> and you, would you be okay with any combination of a ticket with the two of your candidates on it? >> well, i think having elizabeth be at the top of the ticket and pete number two would be great. >> reporter: despite their differences, they do agree on one thing. they will support any democrat who wins the nomination. so the marriage holds? we're not in dangerous territory? >> we're solid. >> you know, 45 years, i think we can get past this, yeah. >> the way i've always worked with my husband is let lincoln be lincoln, right? just don't try to, you know, take him off his path. so i'm on my path, he's on his. we're holding hands, but we're on our own paths. >> reporter: randi kaye, cnn, portsmouth, new hampshire.
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