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the democratic race moves west. >> nevada is a state that looks like america. >> with moderates worrying there's a new front-runner. >> we're getting the establishment just a little bit nervous. >> we have to have a candidate that brings people with her instead of shutting them out. plus, michael bloomberg's record on race.
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>> stop and frisk. >> i defended it for too long and for that i apologized. and trump unleashed. the president crosses another line. >> roger stone was treated horribly. people were hurt viciously and badly by these corrupt people. >> to have public statements and tweets make it impossible for me to do my job. "inside politics," the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters now. welcome to "inside politics." i'm nia-malika henderson. john king is off. we begin with 2020 and a democratic nomination that remains very much up for grabs. early voting has already begun and with cnn candidate town halls and a debate in las vegas it could be a make or break contest for what's left of the democratic field.
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nevada is a very, very different state from iowa and new hampshire and nonwhite voters will play a much larger role there. four years ago, latinos and african-americans made up one-third of democratic caucusgoers. it's a big union state with 28% of democratic voters in 2016 coming from a union household. bernie sanders he's got plenty of reasons to feel comfortable as the race enters the next stage. he won new hampshire and finished in a virtual tie with pete buttigieg in iowa. he remains a fund-raising juggernaut with a broad network of support and he's pulling ahead of one-time front-runner joe biden. a win in nevada would make it hard to call him anything other than a front-runner. >> as all of you know, we won the popular vote in iowa. we won the new hampshire primary.
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with your help we're going to win here in nevada. we are going to -- together to win the democratic nomination. >> here with me to share the reporting and their insights, lisa lair, phil mattingly, that rye markry and margaret from axios. welcome. a big week we had so far. some clarity out of new hampshire. some folks dropped out, of course. now going in to nevada, bernie sanders looks strong. moderates now so much. i want to go here, lisa, i'm going to you on this. if you think about what we saw in iowa and new hampshire, sanders and warren here you see them -- this is their total. looks at the moderates though. they're doing better in iowa in terms of their total vote.
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basically got ten points separating them, almost 20 points here. we heard this last time, donald trump was ahead. this seems to be bernie sanders to lose going into nevada after he's consolidated that lane. >> can he expand his base but i'm beginning to wonder if we're asking the wrong questions. if the field remains this fractured he can win without consolidating the base. and we have no indication that's going to happen before super tuesday. and then of course on super tuesday bloomberg gets in the game. so you have the entrance of another moderate. so that side of the democratic party remains so divided, bernie sanders can probably win it without necessarily gaining significantly more support than, you know, his base would allow
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him to have. >> folks obviously noticing that sanders this go round even though he had a heart attack still has some of those attributes he had in to 2016. the fund raising prowess. so here is biden taking a shot at him. >> when you're in nevada you talk to a lot of folks including workers and organizations that have fought good for good plans and senator sanders is going to erase those plans and replace them with a single government plan for everybody is going to be a tough sell. >> gun manufacturers is the only industry in america that's except from being able to be sued. the only one. and they were given that exemption in 2005 and some of the people running for office voted for that exemption. >> some of the people there to -- biden is talking about
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that and of course buttigieg too, bernie sanders. >> we know how bernie sanders voted on the gun votes but candidates were not going there as much in debates. they had plenty of opportunities but now that they're seeing him as a potential front-runner, they're finally trying to bring this back up. bernie sanders of course has not had that same experience. he has had no problem bringing up past votes that biden has taken shots at other candidates. they kind of assumed that sanders would have sort of a floor and a ceiling here that he would not be able to expand but now that he has been able to we're seeing more candidates actually not only take shots in the moderate lane to try to differentiate themselves from each other, but also going after bernie sanders. >> in both klobuchar, phil, as well as pete buttigieg go in the race, strong showings in new hampshire but they have had weaknesses with black and brown voters and here's a clip that may not help the folks courting
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the diverse voters. >> do you know his name? >> yeah. yeah. i know that he's the mexican president. >> but can you tell me his name? >> no. >> don't you think it would be important if you're running for president to know who the president of mexico -- the country to the south of the united states is? >> yeah. >> because can you tell me who the president of mexico is? >> yeah. >> you're the only one able to tell me that today. >> really? >> steyer had trouble naming president oeb adore. >> you would want to know the names of the international leaders particularly those on your continent. particularly those of a country that comes up quite regularly. based on who the president is. the interesting thing we have been talking about it all week, the next two contests are different and it's demographics based. when you talk about klobuchar
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and pete buttigieg going up against bernie sanders, everybody was focused on iowa and new hampshire you have klobuchar who didn't have the organization past the first two days. raised a ton of money in the wake of a great showing in new hampshire but all of a sudden, snapping her fingers and putting that on the ground to make movement. the same for pete buttigieg. his organization in iowa and new hampshire was extraordinary. they did amazing things, now how do you replicate that in a different state with different demographics for which klobuchar and pete buttigieg haven't had any showing for in poll after poll in the course of the last six months. that's the big question that needs to be answered over the course of this week and this week. >> for klobuchar, some different votes, support for border fence and english as the official language. >> yeah. i mean, there are several
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challenges for her. it's the money and it's the staffing and i think moderates more than the activist side of the party are very focused on who's the strongest -- the electability argument. i'm not sawing that the bernie sanders fans aren't, but if you're a moderate you understand you have to think you have to think strategically about consolidating support as well. the outside question is because of the michael bloomberg candidacy, does he make it easier for sanders or does he make it easier for michael bloomberg by telling moderates you need someone who republicans will vote for as well. and so where does amy klobuchar fit into that? she becomes a choice of one out of four or one out of five instead of the focus being on her. i think she's got several strategic challenges. >> a big race we'll see on saturday and a big question about the debate who going to make that final cut which will happen on wednesday. up next, bloomberg under fire and how the billionaire's
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the rivals are attacking the stop and frisk tactic. now here's how he used to defend this policy. >> it's not a disproportionate percentage of those witnesses and victims describe as committing the murder. in that case incidentally i think we disproportionately stop whites too much. and minorities too little. to the extend that murderers and murderers and murder victims, you can xerox it and pass it off to all the cops. >> but now that he's running for president he says he was wrong. >> i defended it looking back for too long because i didn't understand then the unintended pain it was causing to young black and brown families and their kids. i should have acted sooner and faster to stop it. i didn't. and for that i apologized. >> his alleged past statements about women in the workforce are also coming back to haunt him.
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a "washington post" story this weekend details his history of making sexist statements in numerous lawsuit and allegations over the years suggesting his company was a hostile workplace for women especially pregnant women. his words have not always aligned with his values and the way he has led his life his campaign said. hard to believe that you think about bloomberg and his past with race and gender running for the nomination in a party that takes race and gender very seriously with women and african-americans being very much a part of the key constituency. >> two things to look at is one is the intense desire in the democratic party to defeat president trump which is creating different thresholds and standards among some voters for how -- the lens through they
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which they view candidates and the length of time that has passed. his campaign will ark that was philanthropic investments about these are things he's begun to apologize for and be still talk about and i think they're still serious allegations that we have only begun to see the beginning of the air of. there's going to be massive oppo dumps and he and his team know this. this is the tip of the iceberg of this and we don't know how the impact will be. >> you have prominent african-americans like mariel bowser endorse him and gregory meeks. >> one of the things that's important to the african-american community is closing that wage gam.
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he has a plan on closing the wage gap. there are substantial things that michael bloomberg has done that he can speak and in a positive way in regards to the african-american community. he has some great plans he can do and will do as president of the united states. >> and you were with bloomberg covering his event in north carolina. you talked to some african-american voters there. that did they say? >> they kind of brought up the similar argument, that they have accepted his apology, they're willing to move on and they compared what he said to what trump has said over the years. they have been dealing with that in states like north carolina and tennessee where they know a lot of trump supporters and they hear a lot of potentially racist comments from some of the supporters that they're around. and they said that what bloomberg was mild compared to what they have heard from some of those supporters. that's the argument they made. they also think that bloomberg is the candidate that could beat trump. that's something that comes up over and over again. what we're already seeing is
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bloomberg is starting to talk about stop and frisk a little bit more than he did a few weeks. as we saw this become more of an issue which saw in virginia for example he included his apology on stop and frisk on the stump speech. this is not what he's done in the past. >> is bloomberg flooding the airwaves with ads? you look at his campaign spending $386 million. tom steyer another billionaire in the race, $187 million. so the image that a lot of voters are seeing in their living rooms over and over again on all manner of channels about bloomberg is very different from some of the articles that are coming up about his past whether it's stop and frisk. can this money into buying him delegates in the super tuesday races? >> that's the simple question, is how much will this money sway voters? well, we know, you know,
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historically that spending this kind of money can narrow a gap between the opponent, can get you a couple of points in ads. it can't really get you up in the polls. but already we have seen bloomberg has really risen up in the polls and we have just never seen this much money spent before. this is all a wild experiment. >> indeed. >> we don't know how it will work out but we do think the questions about the background i wonder how much those will matter with voters. voters as both the smart ladies point out, voters are focused on electability. the questions about stop and frisk and the treatment of women makes him into something as a problem in terms of his ability to beat women i wonder if it sticks. >> the voters he's doing well with, moderate and conservative women, we'll put this up, it's coming at joe biden's expense. if you look at joe biden overall he's down nine and michael up eight.
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black voters, biden is down 22 points. pretty big margin of error with that. but it still you see michael bloomberg gaining and then 65 and over as well. those are bidens voters. he's losing bloomberg is gaining. if you're biden you're nervous. >> you have to be. and look this is the theory of the case and frankly this is the theory of the case, in which that joe biden's numbers were soft and if you started to puncture them a little bit they'll start to drop precipitously. the big concern for the biden campaign is the african-american voters that's one poll. i think we're waiting to see in terms of what's going to happen going forward. but it underscores the fact that people are looking at joe biden right now, whether rightly or wrongly, and i think it appears to be rightly that the weakness is real. whether or not he's going to last beyond the next two or three weeks seems to be an open
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question against the democratic campaigns. all right, if there's no biden who is it? if klobuchar doesn't have the money or the experience, who is it? that's where mike bloomberg's bonkers amount of money is a real option. i don't know if it sustains but a minipanic from at least the establishment side or kind of the moderate democratic lane where they're ending up. >> and nancy pelosi said it's not time to panic yet when it comes to joe biden. >> we have come down to the winnowing process. but i see everything as an opportunity and i see -- and quite frankly with all due respect to the world for iowa and new hampshire i'm not counting joe biden out. there's still races ahead that are much more representative of the -- of the country. >> she brought biden up on her own, she hasn't endorsed. >> yeah, she's made the argument
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that democrats don't what to move too far to the left. the same argument that we saw former president obama make. of course, obama and nancy pelosi are not going to say, please, panic, democrats. >> yeah. >> but i think bringing up joe biden in the interview in munich is a sign that there's some panicking. >> and democrats are always sort of panicking. >> their kind of thing. next, the president sends a message to the justice department and the attorney general sends one right back. i'm not hungry!
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message for his justice department last week. take it easy on his friends like long time political adviser roger stone. and get tougher on those he sees as enemies. >> they treated roger stone very badly. they treated everybody very badly. and if you look at the mueller investigation it was a scam and nothing happened with all of the people that did it and -- the it was the largest scam. where is comey, what's happening to mccabe? roger stone was treated horribly so were many other peopler, their lives were destroyed. in the meantime, comey walks around making book deals to the people who launched the scam investigation and what they did is a disgrace and hopefully it will be treated fairly. everything else will be treated fairly. >> after trump's very public pressure the justice department did in fact reduce its sentencing recommendation for stone convicted last year on seven counts of lying to investigators. witness tampering and obstructing the russia investigation. attorney general barr has ordered a re-examination of the
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case against another trump ally, former national security adviser michael flynn who pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about his conversations with the russian counterparts. and they're dropping the charges against andrew mccabe, who trump blames for launching the russian probe and barr rebuked his boss. >> the president has never asked me to do anything in the criminal case. however, to have public statements and tweets made about the department, about our people in the department, our men and women here, about cases pending in the department, and about judges before whom we have cases make it impossible for me to do
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my job. >> now the president chose to respond to just the first part of that sound bite tweeting that as president, he has the legal right to order an investigation but has so far chosen not to. margaret, kind of unexpected dustup between these two. if you think about barr, one of the most loyal person in the cabinet. what's the state of this relationship? >> yeah, i still think the president's doing pretty well with barr as his attorney general. i mean, but look, if you take it just on the merits, it's hard to argue with the point if you ascribe more to the idea it's more of a coordinated political stream, look, i need to give myself space, people are dropping off the ship that's also true but if you take a big picture look at how the justice department has supported the president's moves, the president's doing pretty well.
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i think what's important to look at is to take even a couple more steps back. the president after his acquittal is in the midst of a major personnel house cleaning, revamp. he's bringing back hope hicks. put her at the top the personnel office. >> yeah. >> young aide, a political loyalist and is expected absolutely to help the president and his team of advisers usher in people who the president considers loyal to him in high level positions. i think the andy mccabe conclusions may have been predicated on the fact that if this had gone on much longer, barr might have lost more career attorneys. the big picture of this shows that the president is proceeding the pace,ing t doing whatting w wants to do and that the general public is fine with it and he has no indication to argue that
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point. >> and george conway making the point that in many ways trump doesn't really need to tell barr what needs to be done. here's what he had to say in "the washington post" on saturday. anticipating trump's narcissistic whims and desires in just the fashion remains the key to his survival in the administration. and outoutside the white house proper, when it came to stone's sentence barr likely knew what to do without ever being told. >> yeah, well the president tweeted about. >> right. so there's that. >> which as my understanding in every agency around washington -- >> twitter. >> if they don't have it on their own phone then their staff is sending it to them pretty quickly. the barr and trump relationship i'm watching it like everybody else, but the biggest issue i heard about is what happens to the line prosecutors and something else that barr said in
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the clip, what happens to the judges that the prosecutors have to go in front of? i mean, the white house clearly knew what was going on. and the reason why he needs space right now he has people going into the courtrooms every day. trying to make cases every single day that are trying to get convictions every single day. who are very almost openly i think there -- you guys had a story about questioning whether or not they'll get undercut the day after they bring charges and dealing with the fact that the jims are listening to the prosecutors makers a case and saying, well, this is -- well, is this it? are we going to hear something tomorrow, is this a problem? it's extraordinarily difficult for prosecutors to do their jobs if that is the environment in which they're working under. >> and steve bannon essentially says this is the new environment and folks should get used to in terms of trump. here's what he had to say on wednesday. he's mad and he should be mad that democrats and the media wasted three years of the
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nation's time on a witch-hunt. now he understands how to use the full powers of the presidency. the pearl clutchers better get used to it. what's ahead in your estimation? >> i mean, we have been hearing this from steve bannon for a while to use the extent of the powers for -- even when he was a nominee he was trying to get him to push the republican party as much as he could. so i mean, who knows what steve bannon has in store for president trump. but i don't think trump needs bannon's advice at this point. he knows how to use twitter and, you know, if barr can say he doesn't want the president to use twitter but obviously that's not going to change the way that things are done. that's not the great pivot that republicans have been looking for since 2015. >> yeah. it's right and gop senators weighing in on what's been going on and here's what a few had to
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say. grassley, it does bother me at all. bill cassidy i'm not someone to tell the president what to do. lisa murkowski, i guess people in the concerned camp i don't like the chain of events. susan collins, the president shouldn't have gone involved. john kennedy, what the president tweeted out that made the whole thing problematic. so that's the extent of -- >> pearl clutchers. >> just so much concern. >> right. right. very concerned. >> everybody has been very concerned for what three years? and that concern -- those norms are not coming out. the president is not going to wake up all of a sudden and be in the mold of presidents we have seen. >> truman. >> right. drawing lines between the justice department and the executive branch. like that's -- >> so outdated. >> yeah. i mean it's not fog to happen. the president who -- the republicans know who he is. they signalled that they're sort of okay with it, right? they did not vote to remove him from office. so that is the message that
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voters are getting and voters are also -- they seem to be fairly okay with this. his approval rating is at a record high. we'll see how people feel as the election gets closer. it just feels -- it's the same movie over and over again. >> right. >> we're stick in reruns. >> the president you mentioned his approval rating is about 49%. and among republicans 94, 95% so he's pleased in these critics launching pretty soft criticism of this president. up next, trump revs up the base at the daytona 500 and gives his opinion of his opponents.
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the debate. >> under president trump's leadership we are racing to new heights, millions of new jobs, securitying our border and respecting our veterans. >> this comes a day after trump headlined a $580,000 a couple fund-raiser. the most expensive of his presidency. the event was expected to raise more than $10 million in a single night. now, the 2020 contest and his potential opponents are never far from the president's mind. listen to what he told geraldo rivera this week about whether he'd want to run against bernie sanders. >> i would like him. i'd like any of them. i think it would be good with
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anybody. frankly my first choice would be minimike. in a guy bought the democratic nomination i think that you have a revolution within the democrat party. i think biden is shot, he was shot from the beginning. i used to call him 1% joe, remember, 1%. >> i don't remember 1% joe, but that's -- neither here nor there. >> it's possible. >> it's possible. who can keep track of the nicknames. phil, let's talk about bloomberg and sanders. if you look at president trump's tweets about the 2020 candidates, bloomberg, he's tweeted 12 times. he's thinking about michael bloomberg. >> they're kind of two dual track -- that biden would be soft, he would eventually fall off and he can get under trump's skin. both appear to be true and no question about it, how much their campaign whether it's the social media strategy, whatever it is what michael bloomberg says on the trail is for getting
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trump's attention to tweet about it. i don't know if it work, if it becomes a winning strategically electorally, it seems like he's swimming inside his head on a regular basis. i don't know if people other than in new york, how much of this is a new york thing, who has more money thing but it's real. if that's what the bloomberg campaign was trying to do they have succeeded. >> well, bloomberg is on tv a whole heck of a lot and this president watches tv a whole heck of a lot so he's living in his living room. what we see is this anti-establishbment rhetoric. take a look at some clips are from sanders and trump. >> suddenly we have the democratic establishment very nervous about this campaign. we've got wall street nervous. we are their worst nightmare.
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this is their nightmare on elm street. >> we're driving the republican establishment crazy. crazy. crazy. they don't know what to do. and the reason they're going crazy is because they want to have their puppets and i'm not a puppet. >> and you see there this was sanders from this campaign and trump there from 2015. is this kind of the secret sauce to sanders' success so far basically being the anti-establishment nondemocrat in the democratic primary? >> i think it's interesting that the president brought up a revolution within the democratic party. if bernie sanders is the nominee. because that is that he did when he was running for president and in 2015. there was a revolution of sorts within the republican party. they both are party outsiders.
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they both have the sort of populist agenda. you know, a general election fight between the two would be fascinating because the parties would not have as much -- now obviously the republican party has come around to president trump. but these two were party outsiders who essentially have risen to power without the help of establishment support. so there would be very -- they would be very similar in that sense. >> in sanders, lisa thinks that he can eat into the white working class base that trump has dominated over the years. >> there may be evidence that he can. sort of working class people have been more drawn to senator sanders. his base has been a little less educated than say like senator elizabeth warren's base. as we have seen in the polling, but i think this idea of the two outsiders going at each other would be a fascinating race to watch. and the other similarity of course is that nothing seems to stick to senator sanders just like nothing seemed to stick to president trump, right?
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he had a heart attack. his family was investigated by the fbi. he has his whole history of, you know, he's -- he hasn't been really a democrat for much of his career. he calls himself a democratic socialist and despite all of that, voters seem to like him. at least a certain part of the base. what's so fascinating when you're talking to voters even those not voting for senator sanders say i like him, he has a couple of good ideas and that's a significant shift. >> they like he's been consistent. >> they like his consistency, they like he's out there and the party has moved to the left. >> his base has an emotional attachment to his message also the case for donald trump. up next, the reporters share from the notebooks, including whether nevada democrats repeat iowa's mistakes. at visionworks we guarantee you will see great and look great. "guaranteed" we say that too! you've gotta use these because we don't mean it. buy any pair at regular price, get one free. really! visionworks. see the difference.
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time now nor reporters to get you out ahead in the week ahead. >> well, nia, one word to strike horror in every democrat in nevada and that word is iowa. the democrats have been working around the clock to prevent the caucus catastrophe in iowa. they were supposed to be using same app which is the shadow app that they used in iowa and scrapped that plan. so it is unclear if there is enough training on the new app and a lot of concerns and worries and the bigges issue is to look at the early voting. you could go in early, and you could not do that in iowa and they believe it is an asset, because they could get more results early, and so this is the potential for the mess, but something that the national and the state democratic parties are
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trying to avoid. >> please, no more iowa. >> and the pentagon was notified that they will be shifting $3.8 billion more over to funding of the wall which is allowed because of the president's natural declaration last year and infuriated both parties saying that it was not allocated, but what is interesting about this tranche of the funds is that it is not drug interdiction money or military, but it is coming from the fighter jets and ships and things that members of congress care about, and no indication to block this administration from doing it, but it is going to lead to votes and that is going to be the block the national emergency, and so the congress and senate have blocked it twice and the president has vetoed it twice, and this is for politically endangered issues that are related to fighter jets or ships or vehicles.
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and so keep in mind that this happened and barely anybody noticed and the shift of what is normal and accepted and what is just par for the course in how this administration operates and this is very unusual and now it is happening with $3.8 billion and well, this is part of the deal. >> and the person who is trying to make good on the promise to build the wall and not the part where mexico was supposed to pay for it. >> and as we are heading into the more diverse states of the democratic primary, some of the candidates will say that the best position to rebuild the obama coalition, so it is going to be interesting how tightly they hug president obama and obviously, joe biden has been doing that, and elizabeth warren, and also mike bloomberg who has spent $15 million on an ad featuring obama and this after he did not endorse him in 2008 and last-minute in 2012 and frequently criticized him in the
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2012 endorsement where he called him divisive and populist agenda. so we will see if he continues the do that and if any of the other candidates do that coming up. >> and if it works. we have seen people ride obama's coattails and it has not worked. margaret? >> i am watching how women vote in nevada and how the women are competing for the vote. and so far, bernie sanders is the clear preference of men inside of the democratic party and it is not true for the women. it is slight edge to pete buttigieg, and interested in bernie sanders and amy klobuchar, but there are a couple of things to keep in mind. it is 200th anniversary of susan b. anthony's birthday and international women's month, and the centennial of the women's vote, and all of the factors may come into the narrative of the contest and the general
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election. >> and margaret, i will close with this, the president is going to head out west flexing the muscles in similar states, and in the silver state which trump lost with three points, and the president is going to speak with those incarcerated to highlights the justice reform. and in iowa, he is said to bring in the biggest haul of fund-raising and he is going to go to colorado and nevada and have a joint fund-raiser for cory gardener who is up for re-election. and both parties are vying for the edge as the demographics continue the shift. that is it for "inside politics." we hope you can catch us weekdays at 6:00 eastern. and today, state of the union will feature amy klobuchar and
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