tv Fareed Zakaria GPS CNN February 16, 2020 10:00am-11:00am PST
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this is "gps," the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. >> today on the show, will the coronavirus outbreak get worse soon? the top global health organization says even it doesn't know. >> it's way too early to try to predict the beginning, the middle, or the end of this. >> how prepared is america if it spreads here? and what does it mean for china under xi? i have an expert panel to talk about it all. >> also, the middle east today is stuck in a new cold war
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between saudi arabia and iran. will that cold war turn hot? i'll talk to veteran middle east reporter ken carts, who has a new book out about it. >> and while all eyes were on iowa, the white house expanded trump's travel ban to six more nations. this is america's loss. and i will explain to you why. >> but first, here's my take. the prospect of bernie sanders becoming the democratic nominee has startled many people who worry that his brand of democratic socialism won't sell and would pave the way for a second trump term. this might well be true, but surely, the more important question is not whether his programs would be popular but whether in fact they're good programs. it's time to stop grading bernie sanders on a curve and start asking what the country would look like if he were to become
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president. let's consider the topic that he argued is the single greatest challenge facing america and a global emergency, climate change. sanders wants to commit the united states to achieving 100% renewable energy for electricity and transportation by 2030. this is a laudable though ambitious goal. the question is, how will he go about meeting it? u.s. carbon emissions fell almost 15% from 2005 to 2016. according to carbon brief, the single largest cause for that was the switch from coal-fired power plants to natural gas ones. 33% of the reduction. the adoption of solar power by contrast accounted for just 3%. nevertheless, bernie sanders is opposed to natural gas. he opposes all new fracking, and he seeks to ban it nationwide within five years. he also intends to shut down
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rapidly all gas plants. now, wind and solar account for less than 5% of u.s. energy consumption. so his plan would require an exponential jump in renewables in just a few years. and even if that happened, it would be extremely difficult to replace gas as a source for electricity. you see, solar and wind are intermittent sources so they require a backup source in order to provide electricity to homes, offices, and factories 24/7. sanders has a solution. storage. and if we had the means to store electricity on a massive scale, such as in batteries, there would be no longer need for backup power, but we are not even close to having the kind of storage capacity we would need to make this work. one example, the clean air task force calculated that just for california to reach 100% electricity from renewables, it
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would need 36.3 million megawatt storage. now, there is another path to clean energy, a source that has veero carbon emissions and provides a continuous flow of electricity, nuclear power. it generates about 20% of the electricity in the u.s. and a majority of power in france and a large portion in sweden, two countries can carbon emission rates that are among the lowest per person in the industrialized world. but bernie sanders opposes nuclear power. in fact, he plans to shut down all america's nuclear power plant within ten years. fears about nuclear power are largely based on emotional reactions to a few high-profile accidents that have taken place over the last few decades. such anxiety ignores the millions of people who die each year due to fossil fuels. according to one study, nuclear
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energy is 250 times safer than oil and over 300 times safer than coal. let me be clear. natural gas and nuclear power have drawbacks and costs. there is no perfect energy solution onhand today. but i believe that we do in fact face a global emergency. and we need every means possible to reduce carbon emissions now. the sanders green energy plan is magical thinking. it presumes we can reduce emissions in electricity and transport to zero in ten years while simultaneously shutting down the only two low-emissions, always available sources of power that collectively provide nearly 60% of america's electricity today. and that makes me wonder, is the real problem that bernie sanders will lose or that he might win? for more, go to cnn.com/fareed
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and read my "washington post" column this week. and let's get started. president xi jinping said on friday the coronavirus outbreak is a big test for china. that may be the understatement of the year so far. the question that remains to be answered is will china pass that test? let me brying in my panel. anna fifield is "the washington post" asia chief, and she's the cnn global economist, and dr. colleen craft is an infectious disease specialist at emory university school of medicine. anna, let me start with you. what does it feel like on the ground there this week compared to last week compared to the week before? >> yeah, it feels quite strange
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this week and all of the previous weeks as well. there hasn't been really that noticeable a difference. it's incredible to see this country of almost 1.4 billion people essentially shut its doors. when i have been traveling around the country and this week around beijing, you see shops, restaurants, everything is closed. there's hardly any traffic on the streets. 70,000 movie theaters are still closed despite this call for everybody to go back to work this week in areas that have not been particularly badly hit by the virus. it's still very much a country on shutdown, a country that's trying to strug -- struggling to contain this virus from spreading. >> anna, can i ask you about the movie theater point? because the government has asked people to go back to work everywhere, as far as i understand, other than hubei province. what does it tell about about china that the government doesn't seem to have the power
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to reopen movie theaters? this is a strange market lennonism of china, is it not? >> yeah, well, the rules are a little bit blurry in some places in public gatherings are still banned. movie theaters fall into that. tiananmen square i drove through this week is empty. any places where people gather together is still supposed to be banned, but we see it happening in all parts of the country where factories are supposed to be reopening, but migrant workers are stuck in their home townes in the country side. there are many hurdles to trying to resume some sense of normality here. the government is extremely concerned about the economic impact of this virus, and is almost trying to will the country out of this outbreak. >> doctor, from what you can tell, is it sensible for the chinese government to start trying to get people to get back to work in a normalcy and such,
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or should there still be this sense of almost a national quarantine? >> i think it's hard to tell because we don't know how many, how transmissible this disease is. it's unclear if the closing down the shops and everything that they have been doing, if that's really preventing this from getting larger or if it's actually not making any difference, if it was already going to sort of end on its own. >> but when you look at the number of cases abroad and things like that, you know, compared to sars, compared to other things, are there tentative conclusions you can draw? >> i think it's hard at this time. we are very early, much like we were in the pandemic h1n1 of 2009 where we're trying to understand what the mortality rate of this. we do know the other two severe coronaviruses that have happened in this decade, which are sars
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and mers, this has far outstripped the number of cases we have had. so we're over 60,000 cases. for mers there was a total of almost 3,000 cases confirmed. right now, i think we're still in the high transmission of this outbreak and it's important for us to make sure this doesn't continue to spread dramatically. >> rana, what is your sense of how the chinese government will handle the concern they have that this is going to cause a major economic hit? >> well, i think they're going to throw as much economic stimulus at this, monetary and fiscal, as we have ever seen. i wouldn't be surprised if you don't see this stemmed quickly, i wouldn't be surprised if you see an even bigger amount of stimulus that we did post-2008 financial crisis. there's a lot of fear, and there's fear in the global economy, too. the key point there is china is now the single biggest portion of global growth. if you go back to sars and that epidemic, it was a much smaller part of the global economy.
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now you have the chinese consumer and chinese supply chains really crucial to overall global growth. i think there's a lot of pressure from many places to stem this. >> but people point out that the chinese already have this problem with having accumulated a lot of debt in the process of stimulating the economy post the financial crisis. >> yeah, and it brings up the question that america is not the only place that hasn't gotten its act together economically in a fundamental way since the crisis. nothing really changed. the u.s. is still built on debt. china is very much built on debt, particularly at the pruvenpr provincial government, but we're seeing them say spend whatever you need, keep this blowing. we'll have a debt bubble later. >> next on "gps," the potential impact of the coronavirus on america and the rest of the world when we come back. (howling wind)
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and we are back with anna fifeld in beijing. and colleen craft in atlanta. anna, can you imagine a western country being able to do the kind of -- to take the kind of measures that the chinese government has? can you imagine new york or los angeles being shut down the way chinese cities are being shut down? >> absolutely not. there are tens of millions of people in china now who are confined to their homes, one person allowed out every second
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or third day to buy groceries, and that's it. people are stuck in their homes for several weeks now, across hubei province, the epicenter of the virus, but also other provinces have been badly hit. people have kind of begrudgingly -- they're frustrated, they're bored, but they begrudgingly say this is what has to be done to stop the virus from spreading, and some people who have been in lockdown have said, what can we do? this is what needs to be done. but certainly i think that the chinese government, the lesson that they will probably take away from this whole outbreak is that their draconian measures, their surveillance system, facial recognition cameras, all of that was the right thing to do, and it's because of this technology that they've been able to monitor people's movements, to find out where they are, to call them in. so i'm sure in some ways the communist party will feel vindicated for keeping such close tabs on the population.
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>> dr. kraft, do you think the united states from a public health point of view is prepared for one of these virus outbreaks? >> we've been preparing since this was announced or since this was a concern in china. i think that we at the individual health care level and also coordinating federally and in our state health departments, we've seen a ramp-up that has been unlike any other. this is quite different and quite quicker than it was in the 2009 pandemic, h1n1. we've seen even locally here in georgia, our department of public health has been very intertwined with all the people we've been monitoring and testing with them. and so i think that we have certainly tried our best to be as proactive and as engaged and really working together based on some of the principles we've learned through pandemic h1n1,
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through ebola five years ago and other things that have come sporadically through the united states. >> you've written a lot of really fascinating stuff on the u.s. economy and its own weaknesses anyway. describe where you think the u.s. economy is. could this be -- the slowdown of growth in china, it's a huge trading partner for the u.s., could this be the thing that brings american growth down? >> i think it's possible. there are two big factors in the global economy right now. one, as ever, are central banks. they're keeping interest rates low. how much more money can they pump in? we know that's why markets have stayed up in the united states, and there's been a sort of animal spirits growth here at home. in china, you're seeing the effect of the chinese consumer already having a hit on retail companies, luxury products, companies like apple or even qualcomm that are part of the big tech supply chain that are so important in china. that's where i think you'll see
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an interesting reaction of decoupling. even before this virus, the u.s. and china and potentially europe were sort of moving into their own poles potentially with different supply chains. i think you'll see u.s. companies looking very carefully at their supply chains in china, how quickly can they move things, what can be moved. we're really going to see the rubber hitting the road in that debate. >> and do you think as a result of all this overall growth, everyone is thinking about this because we're in election season, could you see growth slow down in the u.s.? >> there's two scenarios. one, if the virus continues for many more months and isn't stemmed, then yeah, i think you'll see certainly maybe a half percentage point being shaved off the u.s. if you start to get below 2% then you start to get into if not a recession, something that feels like a recession. what happens in november, if that's the case? there's a flip side which is that if the virus were contained very quickly you could actually see by november an uptick in demand because there's going to
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be a lot of pent-up demand, inventories, people will be restocking. the jury is out on how this will affect the u.s. particularly in the election cycle. >> fascinating, makes the election all the more a cliffhanger. thank you to all of you for the conversation. next on "gps," an important development in recent weeks. the trump administration extended its travel ban to six more countries. i will explain you to why it is particularly bad policy with respect to one country in particular, when we come back. don't forget, if you miss a show, go to cnn.com/fareed for a link to my itunes podcast.
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now for our "what in the world" segment. late last month president trump expanded his travel ban to six more countries effective later this week. the new countries include kyrgyzstan, myanmar, and four african nations. one is the nigeria. officials justify the ban on the basis of national security concerns. as "the washington post" reported, they say that each country has gaps in its security protocols surrounding travel that expose the united states to terror threats. but that argument doesn't really make sense. as the cato institute found, no one born in nigeria, myanmar, tanzania, or eritrea have been responsible for a single
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terror-related death on american soil between 1975 and 2017, and if the administration were really worried about lax security, it would ban all visas from those countries but it's only targeting permanent visas, which suggests something else is going on here. last year, when trump unveiled a new immigration plan, white house aides told "the washington post" trump wanted high-skilled, well-educated, english-speaking immigrants who could assimilate easily and give back to the country. that's an understandable wish list for any world leader, but if that's what trump wants, he should know that nigerian immigrants who make up the largest group of subsaharan immigrants in the united states as of 2017, check all of those boxes. they are some of the most
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educated immigrants in america. according to the migration policy institute, 59% of nigerian immigrants in the u.s. hold at least a bachelor's degree, nearly double the proportion of americans born in the u.s. it is also more than the proportion for immigrants from south korea, china, britain, and germany. nigerian immigrants tend to work high skills jobs. 54% of them are in largely white collar positions in management, business, science and the arts, compared to just 39% of people born in the u.s. that means of course they have significant spending power. according to a new report by the new american economy research fund, in 2018, nigerian immigrants in the united states made more than $14 billion and paid more than $4 billion in taxes. and the nigerian diaspora around the world sent back almost $24 billion in remittances in 2018, contributing to a nigerian economy that is more dynamic
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than many people, including maybe trump himself, realize. nigeria was once thought to be just an oil economy. but today, services account for more than 50% of its gdp. technology is now 10%, according to the center for global development. a growing middle class is increasingly educated and aspirational. nigeria is america's second largest african trading partner. and the u.s. wants to double existing trade and investment in africa. as the former ambassador to nigeria, john campbell, that goal, taken alongside the ban, amounts to, quote, policy incoherence, unquote. in terms of politics, however, it has an obvious dark logic. trump has often made it plain, he doesn't like immigrants from poor countries filled with brown and black people. as "the new york times" reported in 2017, he complained to aides that nigerian migrants would never go back to their huts. the next year, "the washington post" first reported that in a meeting with lawmakers he said
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he wanted more immigrants from norway and fewer from haiti and african nations or, as he famously dubbed them, shithole countries. throughout the 2016 campaign, trump described mexicans as criminals and muslims as terrorists. the nigeria travel ban reminds us, i suppose, that donald john trump is back on the campaign trail. next on "gps," saudi arabia versus iran. the immense religious and regional rivalry has informed this part of the world for 40 years. what are the crucial next few years likely to bring? stay tuned. ♪ ♪
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on thursday, the united states senate did something very unusual. it went against the wishes of president trump when it passed a bipartisan war powers resolution on iran. the resolution comes in the aftermath of the killing of the iranian general soleimani and attempts to curtail the president's power to attack iran without the approval of
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congress. trump's interest in military intervention in iran goes back at least to 1980 when he told an interviewer that the united states should have invaded the islamic republic during the hostage crisis. on the other hand he's cozy with iran's mortal enemy, saudi arabia. riyadh was, interestingly enough, trump's first foreign stop as president. i want to talk about all of this with kim ghattas, a veteran middle east reporter and the author of a new book about the cold war between iran and saudi arabia called "black wave." kim, a pleasure to have you on. explain how you came to write this book. because there's a personal angle. >> there was a personal angle. i was trying to answer the question of what happened to us. unlike what most people think today, particularly in the west, the middle east wasn't always this torn. we've always had upheaval but not to this extent. there are three misconceptions i think people have about the region.
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one, they believe iran and saudi arabia have always been enemies. it's not true. they became rivals in 1979 after the iran revolution, before that, they were twin pillars in the u.s. policy in the region. they were friendly competitors. the other mistake is to think that sunnis and shias have always had sectarian violence between them. that is also not true. the theological divide is real but over the course of history sunnis and shias have probably killed each other less than catholics and protestants. it's just that these are the headlines of today. finally, the cultural intolerance that seems to dominate and makes the headlines is also not the norm in the region. the question of what happened to us is what drove me to write this book, it's the opening of the book. i think the question of what happened to us is important, because i talk not just about the geopolitics but about cultural shifts, about the norms that shift, about the values that shift. the question of what happened to us resonates beyond the middle east today. >> why do you call it "black
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wave"? that gets at the cultural shift. >> it gets at the cultural shift. in particular, i look at the veiling of women that became much more widespread after 1979 as both iran and saudi arabia tried to export their version of much more fundamentalist, much more literalist, puritanical islam. you had the rise of the veil in egypt in a way that had not been present before, the black abayah. >> explain what "black wave" comes from. >> the cinema director, an egyptian, first used the term in the '90s as he was complaining that egyptian women were donning the saudi style face veil and the black abayah, but it is the rise of a trend that is dark, that is joyless, and that you can trace back to that year, 1979, when these two countries started to use all the tools at their disposal,
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including religion, to try to rally the masses to their side. and they also heightened sectarian differences and turned them into sectarian divisions and violence. >> so explain what happens in 1979. why is this a pivotal year? >> 1979 is the year of the iranian revolution, when the ayatollah returned from exile. it's the year when saudi zealots take hold of the mosque in mecca and lay siege to it for two weeks and the zealots are put to death. it's also the year when the soviets invade afghanistan and the first modern day jihad in our times. an effort backed by the united states. these three events -- >> just explain one piece i think needs elaboration, which is the takeover of the mosque in mecca was done, as you said, by zealots. who were attacking the saudi for being too lax, too liberal. the saudis took that as a sign
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that they needed to be more conservative. >> they looked at what happened to the shaw, who had been overthrown by a theocrat for having been too forceful in his efforts to westernize the country. the saudis decided what they needed to do is cleep the clerics on their side. they did that not only within their own country but they started proselytizing and pushing it beyond their borders just as the iranians were doing. >> i agree with you entirely on the arc you describe, and it's political and done for exactly the kind of reasons you describe, but it has changed the culture. you go to the middle east, you know, and women are wearing the abaya everywhere. it's a back wave, particularly in places like egypt and certainly in the gulf. how do you reverse course? how does that happen? >> i think it is already receding. i think the black wave is receding because the young generation wants a different future, because religion doesn't have the same appeal anymore. if you look at the polls, it
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will show you that more than 50% of young people in the arab world want religion to have less of a role in their country, in their life, in their politics. the characters i profile in the book are conservative muslims, devout, but they're progressive thinkers. it's just that they have been silenced. i believe they represent a majority, and what we're seeing today on the streets of baghdad or beirut or iran even, in algeria and sudan, is the young generation who is saying we're done with sectarian politics. we don't want to be hostages anymore to all systems of believes. we don't want to be hostages to 1979. i have great hope. i think the black wave is receding, which is why unfortunately the saudis and iranians are now resorting to nationalism to keep the masses mobilized. so i think we need to build things bottom up. i think the people are the answer. their hopes are the answer. but the rivalry between saudi arabia and iran will, i think,
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continue to mutate and continue for now. >> kim ghattas, pleasure to have you on. >> thank you for having me. >> up next, from franklin delano roosevelt to donald john trump, morality and amorality in the oval office. a fassnating study when we come back. someone's video chatting her friends. my parents are getting older so knowing that i can get in touch with them at any time is really comforting. grandma, you're on tv! (grandma) wow! what channel? (vo) the network more people rely on, gives you more. like plans your family can mix and match starting at just $35. so everyone gets the plan they need. and disney+ on us. plus, one of our best phones when you buy one. that's verizon. woman: what gives me confidence about investment decisions? rigorous fundamental research. with portfolio managers focused on the long term. who look beyond the spreadsheets to understand companies, from breakroom to boardroom.
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it's an eternal question for scholars of foreign policy. what is the main driver behind big decisions? is national interest all that matters when a president decides to, say, go to war or enforce sanctions or sign a trade deal? on the flip side, how much does morality play a role in such decisions? do presidents worry about how many people will die, starve, or lose their jobs? should they? the great foreign policy scholar joseph nye was inspired to look at what 14 presidents from fdr to trump considered when making
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such decisions and he's written a thought provoking book about it called "do morals matter?" . we're joined by joe nye. welcome. >> nice to be with you. >> so give us an example. we think of american presidents following the national interest, doing what they needed to do. when did morality, you know, change a big decision? >> a great example is harry truman. remember, truman dropped the bomb on hiroshima, nagasaki, and said he didn't lose any sleep over it. people don't realize he also had a third bomb and refused to drop it because he didn't want to kill more women and children. five years later, when we were losing the war in korea, douglas macarthur said, i want the right to drop 25 to 40 bombs on chinese cities. and truman said no. and he said no because of moral concerns. now, imagine that he had decided yes, and nuclear weapons became normal weapons. the world would look very different today.
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that's a case where morals mattered. >> in many cases, there were presidents who were sort of trying to navigate between doing what they thought was the strategically important thing but still worried about morality, right? >> that's right. it's rare that you could have a decision which is purely moral or sometimes presidents will try to think of something which is in between, which is where most of the things are. henry kissinger once said the hardest choices are really those which are between 51 and 49. if it were clearly back and white, either/or, it might be easier, but when they're close calls, it's tough. >> when we look at donald trump, he says he's really unconcerned with morality. is he an outlier? >> well, he's more amoral than any of the other presidents on the list. when he responded to the assassination by the saudis of
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jamal khashoggi in the saudi consulate in istanbul, he said, more or less, get over it, the world is a dangerous place and even "the wall street journal," a conservative newspaper, said he should have said more about american values. so i think he is now recognized in that sense. >> when you look at something like the assassination of soleimani, is he -- is he violating some of the rules of the game? or is it immoral? how would you describe that kind of thing? >> i think he didn't consider in trying to restore deterrence in iran, which is a worthy cause, if he had done it by sinking an iranian ship in the gulf, it would have been par for the course and more or less accepted. by assassinating a high ranking official in a third country when you're not at war, you're revoking what gerald ford did,
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which is say we're not in the business of assassination. i don't think you really want to drop that norm. what happens, for example, if secretary pompeo goes to baghdad and someone shoots him? we have no right to complain if we shoot soleimani. it's not a question of good or bad people. it's a question of we gave up assassination after the vietnam war, after gerald ford signing an executive order. i'm not sure that trump fought through what it means when you drop that moral principle. >> i think the point you're making that we're kind of violating norms that might help us as well, it will help the united states as well, seems critical when you look at trump, because there are a lot of things he does, it seems, that have short-term kind of tactical advantage. >> that's right. the trouble with president trump is he sees everything as a transtran transaction, like a real estate deal, one short-term issue. if you're playing a game where you're going to be back and forth with other partners for a long time, that leads you to
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take decisions which are not narrowly transactional but are long-term decisions. george schultz, who was ronald reagan's secretary of state, called it treating foreign policy like a gardener cultivating for the long term. you don't see that at all with president trump. >> who is the president that surprised you the most? when you've seriously studied this particular issue, who was the president who surprised you? >> george h.w. bush, the first president bush, because i had to eat crow. i had worked in 1988 in the dukakis campaign, to prevent him being president, obviously without much success. but then when i came to write this book as an analytic problem, i said, you know, this guy comes out on top. and i think his contextual intelligence that he knew a lot about the issues and his emotional intelligence, he was able to manage his own emotions.
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he famously said, i'm not going to dance on the berlin wall because it will make it difficult for gorbachev to negotiate. that was an extraordinary set of skills which meant he presided over the end of the cold war with germany inside nato and not a shot being fired. that was quite an extraordinary performance. >> do you worry that we have lost that kind of balance? the politics are so polarized. the president is now coming in and saying they have to undo everything the previous president did, which is you're describing as more of a subtle kind of navigation. >> that's right, as we polarize politically and we have presidents who are so keen on differentiating their product, that they have to repeal something that the predecessor did, that's very bad for us. take climate change.
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the president trump's withdrawal from the paris accords which obama had negotiated is going to hurt us in the long run. but when his staff came to him and said, we can do this in an easier way, he said, no, i made a campaign promise. that's poisonous. >> we'll leave it at that. joe nye, pleasure to have you on. >> it's a pleasure to be with you. >> thank you, sir. we'll be back. i use rakutek in-store and online. rakuten is free to sign up and it's in over 3,000 stores. i use it to buy makeup... travel... ...clothes, electronics. to me, rakuten is a great way to get cash back on anything you buy. sign up today and rack it up with rakuten.
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my question of the week. what infestation has afflicted large swaths of east africa? locust locusts, lice, frogs or flies? i'll give you the answer in a minute. the mood of our times is pessimistic. we're living not in the sunny days of innovation, growth, and optimism, but in the weary age of consolidation and monopoly and stagnation. i'm not sure i agree, but i'm sure i benefitted from reading this strikingly well-written book that ranges widely and intelligently over politics, economics, and culture, and captures something very essential about america today. my answer to the "gps" challenge this week is "a." from the shores of the red sea to the kenyan savannah, vast clouds of insects have devastated crops and pastures in the worst invasion of desert locusts that east africa has seen in decades.
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the u.n.'s food and agriculture a swarm covering one square kilometer can eat the same amount of food as 35,000 humans in 24 hours. and the pests can fly upwards of 90 miles every day. one swarm in kenya was over 37 miles wide and 25 miles long according to the fao. the united nations estimates some 19 million people in the region were already at risk of food insecurity which will only be exacerbated as harvests fail and herds starve due to the locusts. kenya and ethiopia only have a small number of planes to exterminate the insects. the areas are perfect breeding grounds for new warms. the u.s. is testing drones to battle the locusts but their small size and short battery
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life are serious limitations, according to reuters. so why is this happening? climate change is warming the indian ocean and fueling buildups of moisture in the region, like off the coast of somalia this summer. when rain falls, desert locusts congregate and breed, hatching numbers 20 times larger than the previous generation, only to find unusually plentiful vegetation to snack on thanks to the increased rainfall. once the baby locusts mature and grow wings, they swarm and scour areas for more food. experts worry the number of locusts could grow 400 times this june if untreated. the last major crisis, the insects caused some $2.5 billion in lost harvests and took nearly $600 million to bring under control. the afo says that amount of
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money could fund preventative efforts for 120 years, but for some reason locusts have received less than half the $76 million it requested to fight today's swarms. thank you for being part of the program this week. i will see you next week. hello, everyone. thank you so much for joining me this sunday. i'm fredricka whitfield. hundreds of americans who have been quarantined for two weeks aboard a cruise ship because of coronavirus are ready to head home led by a police escort in japan, convoy of buses took passengers from the diamond princess to charter flights that will take them back to the u.s. they still face another two-week quarantine at military bases in california and texas once they have returned. at least 46 americans on board the ship tested positive for the virus and anyone either testing positive or showing symptoms will remain
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