welcome back to a special president's day edition of inside politics, i'm dana bash. john king is off today. michael bloomberg still using his billions to flood the air wave is now out with an ad to combat the blowback over stop and frisk. but his 2020 rivals aren't letting up on the issue as they see a big vulnerability there. as roger stone awaits his new sentence new cnn reporting that federal prosecutors are considering additional charges against president trump's personal lawyer, rooud rooud. long lines in nevada for

early voting. and long days for presidential candidates. >> we have campaigned so many places i can't see straight. they actually put -- they put a little sticker on the table by the door when i come out that says what city i am in just in case i can't keep track anymore. >> we begin this hour with democratic presidential primary candidates campaigns, and maybe those who cover them perhaps a little bit weary but pushing forward because we are just getting started, everybody. the nevada caucuses are a mere five days away. early voting is under way. and the nevada democratic party says more than 18,000 people voted on saturday alone. senator bernie sanders has the largest field operation in the state. he's also considered the early front-runner in the primary so far. many of his rivals are taking aim at him. >> if his supporters are attacking culinary union members, who is responsible for

that? >> if any of my supporters did that, i would disown them. flat disown them. >> senator sanders's plan, by definition, abolishes private plans like what the culinary workers and other workers across america have. mine does not. >> i am the only one on the debate stage when asked do you have a problem with a socialist leading the democratic ticket, and i said yes. that is despite the fact that bernie and i are friends. we came in together. >> cnn's jeff zeleny joins me now live from reno, nevada, where pete buttegeig and joe biden have events set to start in the next hour. you are in a state where 36 delegates are at stake in saturday's caucuses. what are you seeing and hearing from your sources? >> there is no question nevada is key to so many of the candidates. joe biden is trying to get back momentum and confidence, in the you will. he will be holding a rally here in reno in the next hour as you

said. but pete buttegeig, holding a veteran's town hall in a short amount of time he is trying to essentially one up bernie sanders. he is doing more events here dana than any other candidate, often more than most candidates combined. he will be racing around, three events here in nevada. bernie sanders not in nevada today. he is looking ahead to super tuesday. he's in california going up to washington as well. so that is a sign of confidence, perhaps. dana, we are going to see something that has been at the forefront of this democratic primary so far, the health care debate. that is going to be litigated here in nevada unlike any other place because of medicare for all. as you heard all of the candidates, they are going after bernie sanders, going after his support for medicare for all. the largest union here is not supportive of that, of course. there has been a fascinating back and forth. at the debate here on wednesday that is going to be certainly

front and center. bernie sanders has had an operation here a long time. he did very well here four years ago. they are trying to build on that. down on the potential for surprises. joe biden is campaigning aggressi aggressively. he knows he needs to get a bounceback in his step here. a lot could happen in five days particularly with the debate here on friday. to complicate it all, president trump also coming here to nevada to spend most of the week. >> as he is want to do before there is a big caucus or primary. thank you jeff appreciate that great reporting. here with me to share their reporting, olivia knox wither issious xm. cathy lucy, with the "wall street journal," josh janeman, also with the wall street. and ryan mobilenobles. you have a piece out today that talks about the juggernaut that is the sanders campaign and specifically the raw power of the vast volunteer network. here's what you say in this piece based on your reporting. you can't touch the raw power of

the largest field staff and volunteer base. that's secret sauce. you know i always talk about the innovative stuff. but actually the way we went over these other campaigns is that we are able to knock on those doors. that's a quote from somebody. go ahead. >> yeah. i think what the sanders campaign has been able to do is leverage both paid staff with reliable volunteers. you can get somebody to sign up on a website and say they are going to volunteer for your campaign but to turn that into tangible resources on the ground they are very proud of the fact they have volunteers that don't get paid a dime that will knock on 100, 200 doors, make phone calls to try to get people out to the polls. it says you know, you connect with someone on a human level, they tell you i am supporting bernie sanders for this reason. that compels people to get behind the movement. that's something that sanders has been building for a long time. this was built in 2016.

i think we are finally seeing it come to fruition during this primary cycle. >> you covered bernie sanders as a vermont native, or grew up with him, really. >> that's right. i said repeatedly on this show, test most organized politician i have ever covered. he has movement appeal. all of his fund-raisers are come build this thing with he moo. not give me money, support me. it is about an us proposition. i would like to know how the sanders campaign for all of its organization explains the iowa results. going into iowa we were all saying he never left iowa. built this machine in 2016, his campaign is promising to bring in tens of thousands of new voters. ultimately didn't really see that happen in iowa. one of the questions i have -- not diss counting his strengths at all and how they looked at it and retooled parts of their campaign after the caucuses. >> i think there is a couple of things with iowa specifically that you have to look at with the turnout. one is that the state has trended more republican since

2016. so there is a question how many voters are out there to capture. also you had a lot of undecided voters going into it. that could have affected it. one of the things that's interesting from '16 to '20 is that they have continued to build it it. has gotten bigger and they have tried to do more targeting of specific groups. one thing i think sandersl point to in iowa is latino voters and their successes there and they are looking to replicate that in nevada. >> nevada is the officers state where we don't have the same type of expectations we had in iowa. pete we knew had a big investment in new hampshire was going to be a big night for sanders. nevada as always been an up in the air state. it is a caucus state. it should lend itself to be a pickup opportunity for sanders or someone like warren who has a robust liberal base. on the other hand in 2016 went for a more traditional candidate in hillary clinton. it is one of those -- it is the first state where we are going

to have a result everyone is sproized by. >> good point. it is also the first state where candidates who did very well in the first two very white states are trying to move that they can do well in more diverse states. here's what pete buttegeig on that note said to me yesterday on "state of the union". >> as we come to more racially diverse states like here in nevada and south carolina, many of the voters of color this i am talking to are focused in particular on one thing, defeating donald trump. this is a process of earnings trust with voters who have every reason to be skeptical, who have often felt taken for granted by the democratic party. i am not going to take any vote for granted. just as i am not going to leave any vote on the table. >> so this is one of the things we have been talking about, asking about, now we are actually going to see the answers. first in nevada, but more explicitly in south carolina, different voting bases. >> i think it is actually playing into been's hand, right? his biggest competition in this

space has been joe biden from the very beginning. as boyden fails and is replaced with candidates like amy klobuchar, pete buttegeig, and ultimately michael bloomberg. sanders had never enjoyed a ton of support in the black community in particular, but it is better than pete buttegeig's and amy klobuchar's. the fact that sanders has spent the last four years kind of understanding that vulnerability in his support and making inroads in these communities using and leaning on folks like senator nina turner one of his campaign co-chairs really reaching out to the latino community it is starting to pay dividends. it could be paying dividends at the right time because if black voters feel in particular that joe biden isn't going to take them all the way to the nomination her going to look for alternatives. >> yeah, we talked about this with pete buttegeig yesterday. you know, in historical terms, winning begets winning. when the it laer states see a guy is winning earlier they can

say okay that guy is a winner, or woman. >> been has spent the most time over the last four years trying to court the black vote, specifically with the younger american vote. >> and he has had success there. >> he has. >> whereas pete buttegeig and amy klobuchar they are still introducing themselves. you see this in their ads, in their messages they are starting from farther back. >> do you know who not introducing himself? joe biden. listen to what he is saying on the trial about this. >> this is a chance for average americans in the united states to make history again in a way we haven't made before. the power to determine who the next president of the united states is going to be is in your hands. it means you are going to have a great deal of influence no matter who you pick. >> i want to go back to josh's quick '90 i think is important, which is the generational divide. it has been telling throughout this early primary season where you see biden doing better with

older african-american voters and then sanders, i agree with ryan, sanders has had the best post mort up of any campaign. the analysis of how they lost in 2016 paid dividends. i think we all know biden is in trouble, has been losing support and he needs a strong showing in both nevada and south carolina to see this thing through is this we have a lot more to talk about. before that, a quick cnn programming note. this week on cnn, five town halls, sanders, buttegeig, klobuchar, and warren will all be live in las vegas ahead of the next critical vote there. watch three tomorrow night starting at 8:00 p.m. eastern, two more wednesday starting at 8:00 p.m. as well. tweet us using the #inside politics. we may respond to your comment

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michael bloomberg's campaign is debuting two new ads today intended to combat his opponents' criticism of him on his history of racial justice. a slew of controversies over bloomberg's stop and frisk policy while he was new york mayor and a reis your massed remark from 2008 that appeared to blame low income communities for the housing crisis. here is the message he is sending today. >> michael bloomberg created the young men's initiative to help keep young men and young women from entering the criminal justice step. >> the wealth fwap -- i am determined to make breaking that link a centerpiece of my presidency. >> while the former new york mayor is not on the nevada ballot this weekend he is on the minds of several 2020

candidates. >> i don't think we have a better chance of beating donald trump by putting up a billionaire against him. >> $60 billion can buy you a lot of advertising, but it can't erase your record. there is a lot to talk about with michael bloomberg. >> the simple truth is that mayor bloomberg, with all his money, will not create the kind of excitement and energy we need to have the voter turnout we must have to defeat donald trump. >> we have a guest from the "washington post." nice to see you. >> good to see you, too. >> let's talk about this. michael bloomberg, as kind of the big person hanging over -- figurative person hanging to every the campaign even though he is not actually competing until the big super tuesday primaries. what do you make of this? >> what i make of it is a lot of

moderates hitting on him might regret not training their fire on bernie a month or two ago. bloomberg has built up an advantage. he is betting that democratic voters are willing to forgive him ultimately for some of the transgressions in the past. we have seen it before. klobuchar was attacked for her prosecutorial record. joe biden was attacked for the crime bill. bernie is taking a different kind of attack, he praised the soviet union, et cetera, et cetera. i think bloomberg has correctly identified this as something that could drive a wedge between him and democratic voters. stop and frisk, abomb inability. he is wrong that the '07 housing crisis is because people were lending money to minorities. it is not true. he has to do one tough etch a sketch. >> it is interesting this is all taking place before he is actually formally being in the

contest of any of the states in which he is actually on the ballot. but it does give you -- it indicates how much of a force he is going to be to reckon with. some other states have started early voting so i shouldn't say completely out of the ring. he is having to clean up his record before he gets officially into the mix. i think bloomberg is banking on the idea that he is a larger than life figure. in a way the way everybody is talk about him now and getting into the details of his record it is kind of what he wanted. he is kind the scary figure looming, that's coming over the other candidates who they have to deal with even before they are ready. if you end up without acally front-runner for the first primary sats, if bernie sanders doesn't lead the pack every time then bloomberg to mess with thing if you do end up with a may lay among the moderates and bloomberg joining that on top of it, then it is interesting to see his road ahead because there will be a clear other --

politically other and other person as well. >> you know -- bloomberg does have some advantages as he tries to reframe the narrative both with how much money he can spend in terms of advertising, getting this out, also the relationship he has built since he was mayor of new york. he has any number of endorsements of lawyers and mayors across the country vouching for him. they are trying push that in the space? olivia, you talked about people who michael bloomberg are not attacking bernie sanders at their peril. >> or haven't. >> haven't done it earlier. >> before now. >> to that point, michael bloomberg -- as far as we can tell hasn't spent money on this. he tweeted out a video really tweaking, maybe even attacking the so-called bernie bros, people who go after other

candidate supporters on the internet. this is a sore spot among a lot of candidates and their supporters. i will take you that i talked to a very staunch supporter of bernie sanders. she is on the campaign trail with him today. she said bernie is consistently and recently multiple times said he doesn't want these kinds of people in the movement but to focus on these folks erases women and people of color and the tens of thousands who bring incredible energy everywhere they go. i have seen in iowa, new hampshire, this past weekend in california, and now nevada. they are pushing babb on this? >> totally. it is a sore spot for him. one thing we have seen is that bernie sanders says he likes to run a positive campaign. some of his aides and allies don't follow that. people, voters will have to determine what is actually the real message of the campaign, what the candidate is saying himself or what the people out there supporting and campaign forth him are out there saying. just to come back to bloomberg one thing i will say is that

what what would have seen so far this this race one thing that can trickle down to the democratic base is scrutiny. when he gets on the debate stage at some point it is going to be arrows at him. if that scrutiny trickles down that could blow back on him on super tuesday states. >> amy klobuchar told me here on cnn yesterday she wants him on the debate stage which is different than other candidates for that reason. for that reason. speaking of what bloomberg is doing, there was a really interesting story in the philadelphia inquirer, pennsylvania, which is not voting for a while in the primary process which caught our eye. this is what it says. i am not on facebook, and it comes up on my facebook feed. this is talking about bloomberg. i am driving to work, i am listening to the radio i hear him on radio. it is almost as if the only candidate currently running in pennsylvania -- this is a chairman of the montgomery county democratic committee there.

i mean that's really interesting. >> he has the resources to do it. >> he is using it and doing it. he is getting out ahead and going wide and going keep. >> they are still lrnlly in south carolina and nevada, he is all over the map. we have seen the scale of the hiring he is doing. the number of people he brought in, the amount is he paying them. the amount of staettle he has fanned out into. nothing has ever really been done like this. it is hard to game out how i going to play out but the vast operation he has been able to seemingly instantaneously put in place is unprecedented. >> as you move into the super tuesday states the candidates who have been able to counter-act the big blanket advertising strategies with the direct person to person type of politics, that works this the early states. you can't do that when you are trying to compete against the big slate that is super tuesday. as catherine was saying, other people have had to meet out what their funding is going to be and have a strategy that goes stepwise and make sure they have

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new cnn reporting today on federal prosecutors inching closer, perhaps, to rudy giuliani. cara skinnel is in new york. you have learned the southern district of new york is considering new charges. tell us whatter in and against whom? >> sources the me and my colleague that prosecutors are considering new charges against giuliani associates in connection with a half a million dollar payment that giuliani received. the sources tell us they are considering charges against lev parnas and at least one business partner for misleading potential investors in the company that paid giuliani. that company was cofounded by parnas and is called fraud guarantee. prosecutors are scrutinizing the marketing tactics that were used to sell this investment. specifically they are looking at whether investors were duped about the value of the company and how they intended to use the proceeds.

over the past several weeks and months prosecutors and agents with the fbi have interviewed multiple investors and through subpoenas obtained text messages and other documents relating to this marketing evident. this scrutiny of fraud guarantee does bring this investigation closer to giuliani though it races questions as well of who role if any he had in the marketing of this company. we asked a lot of people around this. a lawyer for the man who actually paid that half million dollar investment he said he invested because of giuliani's representation and he believed july july was going to act as the spokesman for the company. a lawyer for giuliani said giuliani had no communications with parnas or anyone else about the mardi grassing of the company and never authorized the use of his name. he also says he performed legal work for the company. a lawyer for lev parnas said there are expecting to be additional charges and that they are prepared to defend against them. >> thank you for the great reporting. i appreciate it.

here at the table, sarah murray jones our conversation. sarah, put this into context for us. we hear yuso many names, hear giuliani's name keep bubbling up. in it certainly was uncomfortable from the outset when his associates were arrested but the fact they are continuing to probe this company that paid giuliani half a million dollars and that they are considering bringing new charges does raise the question whether giuliani could face charges down the line. i think we are also at an interesting point with the justice department and various offices. we know the southern district of new york has an intense sense of independence, but i think that it is -- it's certainly an odd time to be a prosecutor. it is always difficult if you are looking into a case that could potentially touch one of the president's personal attorneys. especially when we have seen bill barr intervene in a number of the cases that involve trump associates. i think that makes it all the more sensitive.

>> special someone who used to run the southern district. u.s. attorney way back then. i am glad you mentioned everything that we saw last week kind of explode and -- there was like a series of mackia veilian dances going on i think is the nicest way to say it with the attorney general, with the president president, with the white house. yesterday i spoke to mike short the chief of staff of the president but he was coming on on behalf of the white house. the way he answered the question about the president and the toerm the back and forth is it is just fine because the attorney general is doing what the white house wants him to do. >> there has been a bias inside the department of justice that attorney general barr is trying to correct. i think he said that the president has not called him directly to say please do these things. i acted independently to initiate the reviews. i think he is doing a fantastic

job of it. >> he is trying to stir up the anti-decisionalist anti-washington issue -- anti-institutionalist and anti-washington sensibilities that helped get the president-elected but it is not that simple. >> it is not. because the attorney general getting involved in cases that involve political ramifications to the united states and actually involve bill barr. he was mentioned in the phone call with the ukrainian president. the thing i would direct -- senate.com, great website has an oral history. part of that oral history has an interview with bill barr. in part of the interview he brags about how in the aftermath of the iran contra affair he pushed for more pardons that the white house itself was prepared to seek. he has long had this view the executive branch. it is a longer trend than just the bar and trump relationship.

>> union terry askedive. how he described it. >> the president is feeling emboldens after the acquittal in the senate. we you is a it going on. going on a victory tour, getting rid of people he felt were disloyal, bringing in people he thinks were closer to him right now. i think you are going the see more of that tone from this white house. >> i think that's true. it is one thing for the white house and the justice department to be on the same page when it comes to policy priorities. this is how we want to direct immigration policy. we expect the justice department to enforce it this way. it is another thing saying we expect the justice department to get involved with former affiliates of donald trump and take another look because we don't trust prosecutors anywhere in the justice department who may have been working on the cases for years. >> it is not just the justice department. it is the judicial. and the president going after judge sfoos right, right.

>> including the judge who is on this roger stone case. listen to matt gates, one of the president's allies on with maria bart loano. >> we want the attorney general to acknowledge there is still swamp left to be drained at the department of justice. >> and berman-jackson is going to be the judge assigned to peter strzok's wrongful termination suit. there is that. >> it was not the congressman. it was the host but go ahead. >> right. look, there has been a refrain that's been repeated by the president's defenders and a lot of people on the hill when you say is it appropriate that the president is tweeting a of the the judges. oh, the judges are independent they are not swayible. when you create an environment where you get pressured from any deviance of what the president wants, this question is still about how coordinated they were

behind the scenes about barr being able to do his job. this is causing judges to look -- and being open that that's a legacy they want to set. it is in a giant pot of the influence peldsing or the pressuring that's going on. saying one judge is going to be able to hold back any sort of that tide or separate themselves from the environment they are in. yes, that is their job, but when you are making the environment what it is it becomes that much more difficult. >> everybody stand by. up next she lost the race to be governor of georgia in 2018, now stacey abrams is making clear she's available for anybody's ticket. stay with us. thousands of women with metastatic breast cancer,

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topping our political radar, former georgia gub tourial candidate stacy abrams is not hiding her white house hopes telling the view today she absolutely sees a presidential run in her future and would be honored to be a vice presidential candidate this year if asked by the democratic nominee. >> it would be doing a disservice to every woman of color, every women of ambition for me to say no or pretend i don't want it. of course i want it. of course want to be a patriot. so i would say yes. >> refreshing. >> putting it out there. >> she is not pulling any punches. >> not at all. of course they have miles to go

before they sleep on this one. a long way before -- >> it is interesting that this seems like a recurring cycle where stacey abrams says something like this. it does make you want to look at the ticket and see diversity on there. i think it is important to many of the candidates. >> it also is a non-endorsement to anyone. her voting rights group raised $20 million to date. they met in early january. i think it is interesting. she could have come out and said there are more people for whom i am more closely aligned. that sounded like self promotion and also not picking sides. >> she's no dumbe. >> she has been a force. i think whoever the nominee is, especially if it ends up in a run for the delegates towards

the end of this it could be potentially refreshing for somebody from the other side to come in. she keeps being bandied about and it is not clear where she lands. we will have to see how everything else shakes out officers. >> we have heard similar before. i just do think it is noteworthy that not only is she saying i am in? she is also saying why. why would i say anything else? i am not going to mess around. i want it. >> which is why a lot of democrats like stacey abrams. >> stand by. you can tweet us your questions using the #inside politics. you may get your question answered right here at this table. we'll be right back. when you shop with wayfair, you spend less and get way more.

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welcome back. the nevada caucuses are this saturday. as you can imagine, there are a ton of ads on social media, on radio, and of course candidates using the traditional medium, what you are watching root now, perhaps, tv, to pitch themselves. >> as president, he'll create good paying jobs, building the infrastructure and affordable housing we need, keep immigrant families together. bernie sanders, a president who fights for us. [ speaking spanish ]

>> newtown, parkland, las vegas, gun violence is tearing at the soul of this nation. it has to stop. joe biden stood up to the nra. >> he had studied the financial world and had an insight into it that others didn't have. >> elizabeth understands what i strongly believe, that a strong, growing economy begins with a strong and thriving middle class. >> we are seeing democrats hungry to win, independent voters who have been turned off buy our politics, republicans tired of trying to look their kids in the eye and explain this presidency. tom steyer will beat donald trump on the economy. his people over profits plan makes a living wage a right. >> it's always so helpful to look at the ads to really get a sense of where they think that they can be most effective with voters. now in today's day and age, so many ads are targeted to what you seem to like on your facebook page and how you use the internet and so forth.

but, still, first of all just the fact that joe biden is really focus on guns. that's not just in the >> yeah, that is really interesting. we talked about the women voters, the suburban voters. winning back the house in 2018. the idea wasn't really great by the sense is that the klobuchar win was someone who -- >> the audio wasn't great or had trouble understanding it? >> the audio -- but her ad focused on beating donald trump and the other ads had some more issue based things but i don't think i heard a health care pitch which is interesting. >> i speaks to how biden doesn't introduce himself to people. people know him, he can really focus on a target issue whereas amy and pete in particular are doing more of the introduction job in these ads. trying to explain one of the ads i saw from klobuchar it does talk about who her parents are,

where she's from. >> even elizabeth warren is pretty introductory and i think her campaign is more skeptical of tv. and they have done more on digital and media. but playing up to harry reid is -- she has a lot of his staffers. >> i want to show our viewers a prod look at where the candidates -- how much money the candidates are spending on ads. this is not just in nevada. look at that. michael bloomberg $417 million so far. then the next that even close is another billionaire, tom steyer. bernie sanders who i have heard that he doesn't like the billionaires or he doesn't get money from billionaires. but he's got a lot of money and spending a lot on tv ads and then it goes down from there.

we're just only two contests in. >> no, i think spending wise it's quite lopsided towards the people who have the resources independently to be putting that in the game. look the big test is going to be after the early primary states to see if the comebacks match the numbers that are being -- the money that is being put in really. if that strategy is really working here. so you're going to see this continuing to play out until you get one of the actual -- sorry super tuesday states because that's the first that anybody's name is on the ballot. >> here's one of the things that you have to remember with sanders look ahead, he's very, very well funded. he's funded for a very long race. >> that's what i was trying to say. >> absolutely. i don't get the numbers from the big donors. stand by, a racy display in nevada briefly putting the bernie sanders show on pause.

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let's end this show with a quick lightning round. i'm going to throw to this tape we'll talk about it afterwards. >> i'm here to ask you to stop propping up the dairy industry and to stop propping up animal agriculture. i believe in -- [ crowd boos ]

>> this is nevada. there's always a little bit of excitement. >> okay, that was pretty quick witted rejoinder there. a little bit of excitement at no extra cost. that's the bernie sanders that you have covered for a while. >> that was actually a better bernie sanders who was more limber and quick on his feet. looked like topless women -- >> we're on a family friendly show so we made it so. >> that's still a surprising moment at one of the rallies. yeah, he's quick. it's funny. you see what his supporters talks about a lot, he has a sense of humor. he knows how to play with the crowd. >> he's come back and he's feeling better. real quick, amy klobuchar is

talking about funny. somebody tweeted in to her campaign that they realize her campaign colors are the same colors of hidden valley ranch. she retweeted, busted. okay. that's pretty funny because it's the same color, but the real reason her colors are green and white is because it's the same color as paul wellstone who was the senator from minnesota who perished in a plane crash. that's the reason she adopted those colors. but i think hidden valley ranch is funny. >> that sense of humor plays with some of the voters she is trying to take away from pete buttigieg and sanders. >> we have to get to one question that we got from the viewers. this from @two tweets. if bloomberg makes it to the debate can he opt not to participate or must he debate if he qualifies? >> if he chooses not to, that's

a choice which is not going to make anybody not attack him in the debate. >> why would he not go? >> what's the downside if you're trying to introduce yourself to the country. >> getting knocked around by your fellow candidates. >> thank you so much for joining me today and thank you for watching "inside politics." my friend is in for brianna keilar and she starts right now. hi, everyone. i'm bianna golo dry ga. after more than a dozen american citizens who tested for coronavirus arrive home on charter flights from japan. all of them are facing weeks of quarantine. 2020 democrats zero in on bloomberg attacking his