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when they're not in a motorcade? [ upbeat music starts ] [ engine revving ] ♪ this one drives a volkswagen passat. ♪ going, again, chris quo employee is off tonight. this late edition of "360" president trump's current state of mind, amy klobuchar's past, how it may come to bear on the campaign today. also the latest on the coronavirus outbreak, low it's hitting americans abroad and now here at home. very full hour ahead. we begin with presidential politics and the upcomie ining a caucuses and the concerns the kind of chaos we saw in iowa might be looming once again. volunteers there are warning of a lack of training on the technology they plan to use and confusion over how the process will work. jeff zeleny is in reno for us tonight. so how confident are people in nevada tonight they're not going
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to have another iowa on their hands? >> reporter: anderson, party officials are trying to express confidence, campaigns are trying to express confidence, so it does not suppress the vote, but underneath the confidence, there is some concern. this is the reason why, there's never been early voting before for caucuses. the idea of caucusing is to go into a room with your friends and neighbors, have a discussion then realign if your top choices don't make it. what they're trying to do now is have early votinging iing for f, saturday, sunday, monday, tuesday, and hold on to those votes and have the actual caucuses on saturday and sort of mix them up. that is the complicating factor here. but there are some, you know, very specific rules that are going on that people simply aren't familiar with. so the technology is one concern, but also the rules of simply you have to vote for more than one person. i talked to a voter today here in reno, she said she went on saturday and tried to early vote. she stood in line and stood in line. it took too long.
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her children went on sunday. it took too long. she said she's going back tomorrow and is going to wait as long as it takes so the lines are an issue. sometimes over three hours at a time. it's those specific caucus rules that most people are concerned about here, the merging those results on saturday, anderson. >> so, when someone goes to early vote in nevada, this is confusing, you vote more -- you vote for, like, a first round and then a second round? >> reporter: you do, you actually have to vote for three rounds. a first round, a second round, and a third round. i'm hearing this evening from a few campaign advisers thereat that they are told told some ballots are being disqualified because there are not three choices being made there. that is one of the things tha s is plainly stated on the ballot, must vote for three rounds. look, this hasn't been done before. the issue on saturday is realigning all these. if someone goes and early votes and mixed in with their own precinct on saturday, that's where the math could get very
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complicated. i was at some of those iowa caucuses watching it all in real time. never mind the app and all that. just seeing it happen in the flesh, it was confusing then but when you're adding early vote into it, that is one of the issues, but the party officials say, look, we've been at this for a long time, we've been training people for a long time. they believe that this will work out. so, so far, some 26,000 people have early voted through the weekend. many more today and tomorrow. so we will see if it goes, but there is a sense here of anticipation and apprehension for how that is going to actually work on saturday, anderson. >> all right. jeff zeleny, thanks very much. joining us now stormer clinton campaign senior spokesperson, karen finney, cnn political commentator, as well as democratic strategist aisha moodie-mills. thanks both for being with us. karen, are you surprised after the chaos of the iowa caucus, there are folks voicing concerns about what may happen in nevada? >> no, actually, what i heard from on the ground, people are a
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bit nervous and want to do a good job. i think one of the major differential factors in nevada we didn't have in iowa, all due respect to awarks iowa is harry. he has a very strong political machi machine. he helped get nevada early if the window. and get the caucus in the first place. so, i think they're not going to let -- see the kind of problems that we saw in iowa. they're not using actual technology. the one technology is really an ipad and a l calculator. everything else is going to be done paper with multiple redundancies, so we'll see. i have to tell you, anderson, i would be perfectly happy if we did away with the caucuses because it's a mess. and it's always a mess. even with the best of intentions. although i think, again, in nevada, they're trying very hard to make sure that everyone can feel confident in the results. >> certainly a mess in iowa and something the president and allies pounced on to say, look, if democrats can't figure
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out how to do a caucus, how can they rule? >> i want to go back to something karen said, i totally agree this whole caucus meleefi most of the american people. i think we should totally do away with it as well. functionally, this boils down to a question of why is it not simply one vote, one person? that makes a lot of sense to most people when you try to wrap your head around what it means to participate in an election. and i think that at the end of the day the democrats have an opportunity to really lead in that conversation, about how we reform, the way our elections happen, generally speaking, as well as this primary process. we are in a situation now where people feel distrust with the process. and when people feel distrust with the process, i fear that they don't necessarily show up and participate. so how can we simplify this? where you understand that if you go and you cast your ballot, you can do it early, you have a range of a couple of weeks to vote, you can vote at your polling place, vote by mail-in, what have you, what you say is
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going to count, rank choice, you pick the top three, whatever it might be, i think we need to have a conversation about how we simplify all of this because having a process that makes people skeptical and then gives our opponents an opportunity to kind of poke at it, frankly, i think demoralizes the process and demoralizes the people -- >> yeah. >> -- and what we need is full force in effect of everybody turning out. >> yeah. hey, i also want to bring in meagan messerly, politics reporter for the "nevada independent." i'm wondering, do state party officials, is there a backup plan, what are you hearing from people about how the process is going? >> yeah, so like we've been talking about, you know, nevada democrats had to entirely redesign their caucus process in the wake of iowa. they were planning on using two apps that were designed by the company responsible for the iowa apps. they've come up with this totally new system, this caucus calculator that you've been talking about. the goal is to bring in the early vote data. there are backup plans built in. there's paper backups for everything. for instance, this caucus calculator is supposed to be used to bring in the early vote data.
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to early caucusgoers. home precincts on caucus day to be counted just as if they had been there in person on the actual day of the caucus. but there's going to be an envelope that party officials tell me will be sealed. it will have that information in the envelope in case they need to do calculations by hand. they're building in redundancies. the mood on the ground is folks really want the process to work. obviously, there are questions and i think concerns in the wake of iowa, but that's the sense i'm getting from campaigns here is that, you know, they still have some unanswered questions, but there still is that trust in the party to get things done. >> karen, do you think nevada is going to crystalize anything really in terms of the race on the democratic side? >> absolutely. i mean, look, it's the first state where we have a diverse population and so seeing not just who wins but how they win and where they win in different parts of the state because you've also got more conservative parties and more moderate sort of conservative parts of the state, so i think taking a look at that will tell us, are we still having this very liberal, very, you know,
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sort of moderate conversation, is that still what we're seeing? and where do, you know, we have high populations of latinos and asian-americans. the ballots are actually printed in talalag in nevada. if you're a campaign having been on both sides of this is delegates. ultimately about a count for delegates and hopefully for the candidate who becomes victorious out of the 22nd, they're going to hopefully have the momentum that will help raise more money, to put more resources into those super tuesday states. >> aisha, what are you going to be watching for in nevada? >> i'm going two watching for turnout. i'm curious how enthusiastic democrats actually are about the process in general. here's the thing. anderson, the only way we get rid of donald trump out of this white house is if democrats come out en masse in november to vote. i think this primary process is going to be really telling about whether we see record-breaking numbers in nevada of people turning out because they want to be a part of getting rid of donald trump and that means picking the candidates who's going to be able to go up against him.
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i was very disappointed in iowa's turnout. new hampshire was a little bit better no better. now we're in a diverse state that's certainly a more a reflection of america, we'll see the same thing when we go into south carolina. so what i'm watching for is are people really enthusiastic about this 2020 election generally? are they participating? are they showing up in lord numb record numbers? that, to me, will be a bit of a be bellwhether of what we're to see in november. >> meagan, what are you seeing on the ground so far in terms of enthusiasm or hearing? >> yeah, there's a lot of enthuse uniform on the ground, what i'm hearing from folks mostly when i talk to them at early voting sites. they tell me, some of them waited three, four hours over the last couple days to cast their early votes. one woman told me, though, she would have waited 12 hours. she thinks it's that important to participate in this process. so, obviously, there are other ways that folks would prefer to spend their weekend, their holiday weekend, but they're happy to participate in the
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process it seems. so there is a lot of enthusiasm. i think the important thing to mention of those 26,000 votes that have been cast as of this morning, a lot of those, majority of them, are brand-new caucusgoers who didn't caucus in 2008 or 2016. so we are seeing new folks be brought into the fold during the course of this election. i think we're waiting to see what the ultimate turnout number is and obviously waiting to see how the field shakes out. >> yeah, meagan mesherly, karen finney, aisha moodie-mills. the unprecedented bipartisan call for attorney general barr to step down and growing concerns president trump is weaponizing the justice departme department. later a question for democrats, given all that, should they hold hearings and expose what they see as a threat to democracy? flu reporting their leadership wants to do the opposite. i'll ask one democratic lawmaker for his take on it. yet! let me get the big one. this one? no! this one? yes! no... the big one! they're all the same size! with freedom unlimited, you're always earning. let me get them all. i'm gonna get them all. i can't decide. when you have nausea, heartburn, indigestion,
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joining us now is cnn global affairs analyst and "washington post" analyst max boot who recently wrote about how democraciies die. the role public plays in their demisz. along with former clinton press secretary joe lockhart. max, when 2,000 former justice department officials who worked for republicans and democrat administrations are calling on the attorney general to resign, it's no small thing. i -- you know, trump's supporters will write it off as just, you know, obama holdovers and just politically motivated, but no one thinks he's going to actually resign. >> no, obviously, he's not going anywhere, but i think the fact that you have 2,000 former prosecutors, anderson, representing 12 different administrations, and these are republicans and democrats and people who are completely nonpartisan, they're all saying that barr needs to go. this is not something they would do very lightly, and clearly, they are extremely alarmed and i think everybody needs to be very
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alarmed. i mean, you even have a former deputy attorney general in the george h.w. bush administration, don ayers, saying that barr needs to go. that is how problematic the current administration of justice is with trump politicizing the legal system and barr being his willing lackey and the lawyers know what's at stake, know the rule of law is the underpinning of our democracy. i feel the rest of the country is not paying attention, not the kind of alarm we should be seeing because a lot of people seem to be a lot more worried about the strength of the stock market than they are about the strength of our deploksy. trump is basically getting away with an awful lot i think because of this public passivity. there's not this mobilization on the part of the public to stop him. and that is a big concern to me. >> well, joe, i think max raises a good point about a sense of apathy or i don't know if it's kind of malaise, but there's certainly, i mean, i think that's one of the things the president depends on is just
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wearing oath peerm down. wearing his opponents down to the point where people kind of give up, they're sick of it, want to actually live their lives and not have this constant mishigas going on. >> yeah no, i think that's exactly right. i think everyone is somewhat enured to the norm breaking, the guardrails being destroyed and, you know, the rule of law being trampled upon because there is something every day, he does something every day, he has divided the country as far as their support or opposition to him, but also the information they get and there's no longer a dialogue between the sides. you know, i don't take as pessimistic a view as max does. you know, we just don't have a culture anymore of taking to the streets, but i do think there's a lot of energy on both sides in the election to decide in november, you know, who's right. and i'm actually feeling confident even with this, you
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know, stock market and an economy that's doing well, the president's still at, you know, 42%, 43% job approval. no president's been elected or re-elected with those numbers. i think people have to -- they're tired of it and that -- that fatigue i think is working against trump. ultimately. but we have, you know, we have many more months we got to endure before then. >> although, max, i mean, you look at turnout in iowa, it certainly was not, you know, gangbusters as i think many democrats probably thought it was going to be. >> that's right. i mean, it was higher in new hampshire. we'll see what happens the rest of the way. i mean, i don't want to be a gloomy gus here, and i hope joe is right in there's this mass mobilization against trump in november, but look, we got to face the reality, trump could very easily win re-election. that's actually what a lot of the smart money is saying especially if bernie sanders is the democratic nominee. the democrats could lose a lot of centrists and trump could waltz back into the white house and i think that would be a disaster for our democracy. i say that as somebody who is not a democrat.
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i'm an independent. i'm a former republican. i just think it would be a catastrophe for democracy if donald trump is re-elected based on what he's done the first four years. he's going to take it as basically permission to keep on going and keep undermining the rule of law and undermining our democra democracy. >> joe, the idea thereat bill barr, you know, goes on abc saying he doesn't like the president's tweets and that -- somehow that kind of resets the balance of pow tore ter to the should be. if anything, did it seem to you to be a pr move, essentially? >> oh, i mean, absolutely. i think bill barr was dealing with some personnel issues in the department of justice and a revolt and he was trying to hold off mass resignations. i don't think, you know, particularly after his performance with the mueller report, where he totally and dishonestly mischaracterized it in advance in order to shape people's opinion. you know, i don't think he has a lot of credibility, you know, in the media and in the public. so it didn't necessarily work. and all you have to do is see
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what he did in the next couple of days to understand that he wasn't trying to change the president's behavior or to, you know, reinstate or install the rule of law in the justice department. he was trying to take some of the heat off of himself. and, you know, i don't think it worked. and, you know, as judged by the 2,000 prosecutors who signed this letter, they haven't taken any substantive steps to depoliticize or, you know, deweaponize the department of justice. >> yeah. max boot, joe lockhart, appreciate it. straight ahead, more on president trump without guardrails. we'll be joined by democratic member of the house oversight committee about whether or not democrats have any appetite left for, in a word, oversight. i'm your 70lb st. bernard puppy,
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talking about the rule of law that critics say president trump is trampling on since his impeachment acquittal in the senate. the question is will the hounse of representatives go down a different road? joining me, raja krisnhamoorthi. what do you make of the let frer the former doj officials? >> think it's unprecedented. i don't remember a time when 2,000 former prosecutors did what these folks did. just one other thing that i wanted to point out which is that the fact i heard a group of judges are also now basically calling for an emergency meeting of their association to take a look at what's happening is also a signal that there might be blow-back from the judiciary about what's happening at the doj. you have to remember, a lot of these federal judges were former federal prosecutors at doj. and so they have friends there. they know what's going on.
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they probably don't like it. and so it will be very interesting to see, for instance, how judge jackson rules in the roger stone case. pardon me. and whether, you know, she basically goes with the initial sentencing recommendation. >> do you think there should be hearings about interference in the roger stone case? >> i do. i think it's a serious issue. it's not common for four federal prosecutors in basically withdraw from a case all of a sudden and one of them resign from the doj all together. i would not be surprised if next month when mr. barr comes before the house judiciary committee he gets grilled over this very issue and who knows, there might be further proceedings as well. >> you tweeted today you want attorney general barr to resign, senator warren was on this program saying that barr should be impeached. would you go that far and, you know, i mean, is that something
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speaker pelosi, frankly, american people really have much of an appetite for more impeachment investigations, impeachment hearings? >> i'm not sure about that, but on the other hand, we can't do nothing and, therefore, i think at this point i think those further oversight hearings with regard to how the doj's being run, i think the doj is being trump trumpfied. being politicized the same way the state department and even the defense department and even the commerce department with regard to the census and the citizenship question were signals that basically president trump views these agencies not as independent arms but as potentially political arms of his. and that's deeply disturbing. >> i mean, what can democrats really do when it comes to oversight of the president? i mean, now that impeachment is over, does seem like there are fewer and fewer guardrails, if any. >> well, they're constantly coming to the congress for more
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money for new programs or changes to existing programs or they're coming to the congress and the house for appropriations and so i think at this point, i think we have to use each of those opportunities as a chance to basically make sure that if we are going to provide further funding, or we are going to authorize extensions of existing programs or new programs, that it be conditioned on good behavior and there isn't really a lot of that going on right now at the doj. especially given what we know about the stone situation but also the fact that attorney general barr has called for a second line of prosecutors to basically micromanage or question the decisions in the michael flynn prosecution and now he set up some kind of inbox or some kind of special corridor for rudy giuliani to provide dirt to the doj about the bidens andemies or
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minnesota senator amy klobuchar making significant inroads in the democratic race and obviously needs a respectful showing in the upcoming nevada caucus and south carolina primary to build on that. that said, she also faces potential obstacles including an issue from back when she was a local prosecutor. tonight our randi kaye has that story. >> i have always believed in doing my job without fear or favor. that's what i do as a senator and that's what i did as a prosecutor. >> reporter: this was the moment amy klobuchar had been waiting for. another shot at making history. she'd already made history twice as the first woman elected county attorney in minnesota's
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hennepin county and the first woman elected senator in minnesota. reporter patrick condin has covered klobuchar for more than a decade. >> she has a sort of minnesota charisma. she's sort of folksy. she kind of has a fondness for corny jokes. she's, you know, she's a good retail politician. >> reporter: amy klobuchar is from plymouth, minnesota, just outside minneapolis. she's the daughter of a schoolteacher and a minnesota newspaper columnist. she left minnesota only briefly to attend yale university and then later the university of chicago law school. her family's from slovenia just like melania trump. >> you may not know this, but i was officially displaced as the most famous slovenian-american by melania trump. >> reporter: as hennepin county's top prosecutor, klobuchar promised to be tough on crime. critics say she ramped up incarcerations and she took heat for not doing enough to end police brutality and racial disparities in prison.
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one case continues to haunt klobuchar from her days as county attorney. 11-year-old tyesha edwards was killed by a stray bullet back in 2002. a black teenager named myan burrell was sentenced to life for her killing in what media reports call a flawed investigation involving questionable police tactics and the testimony of a teen rival. klobuchar prosecuted the case and has highlighted it as an example of justice served. the naacp in minneapolis sees it differently. >> amy klobuchar, there are questions that need to be answered. there are communities that need to be visited. and most importantly, there are wrongs that need to be made right. >> reporter: klobuchar says all evidence in that case needs to be reviewed immediately. but in the death of another minneapolis child, 11-year-old byro flrks phillips who was caught in the cross fire of a gang shootout, klobuchar gets high marks. >> no one had bothered to figure out who did it. when i came into that office, we worked with the community groups. we put up billboards.
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we found the shoot eer and we p him in jail. >> reporter: in 2006 klobuchar won her first senate campaign. she went on to win two more terms in landslide victories, but her reputation for minnesota nice suffered after tales of mistreatment everyoneand abuse staff. in 2018 politico included her on a list of worst bosses in congress. >> am i a tough boss sometimes? yes. have i pushed people too hard? yes. >> reporter: over the years critics in minnesota have also jumped on klobuchar for not taking on big fights. >> a lot of sort of consumer-oriented legislation, you know, swimming pool safety, lead there toys, they're not exactly the great debates of our day. >> and these smaller issues have earned her sort of a nickname. >> the senator of small things. >> reporter: despite that nickname, amy klobuchar has big things on her mind. as another famous minnesota politician, walter mondale, told us, klobuchar has drive and grit and gets things done.
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how far that will take her in this latest challenge remains to be seen. >> randi, the reporter you spoke with, does he have any predictions or thoughts on super tuesday and how klobuchar may do in minnesota? >> he certainly does, anderson, given her landslide victories in her senate races you'd think he'd say probably more of the same. after covering her for ten-plus years, he actually sees a weak spot. he does not think it's a guarantee she'd win in minnesota on super tuesday. that's because senator bernie sanders is very popular there. he beat hillary clinton in minnesota in 2016, as you recall. plus this time around he says there are a lot of other options and the grassroots on the left he says is not klobuchar's political profile. plus it's also worth noting, anderson, that he also points out that the two most prominent african-american politicians in minnesota are supporting someone else other than klobuchar. both representative ilhan omar and keith ellison who's now minnesota's attorney general are both backing sanders, not klobuchar, anderson.
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>> amy klobuchar, i mean, is known for retail politics. the same reporter doesn't think that will help her on super tuesday in the minnesota primary. >> no, we talked about that. we were talking about how most years she tries to actually visit all 87 counties in minnesota. she's really strong on retail politics. but, again, he says not even that is going to help her on super tuesday. >> interesting. well, we'll see. it's up to the voters. randi kaye, thanks very much. there are new developments tonight in the fight to contain the coronavirus outbreak. coming up next, the latest on infected american travelers back on u.s. soil and the many questions that are coming home with them. you clean dishes as you cook, to save time and stay ahead of the mess. but scrubbing still takes time. now there's new dawn powerwash dish spray. the faster, easier way to clean as you go. it cleans grease five times faster. on easy messes, just spray, wipe, and rinse. on tough messes, the spray-activated suds cut through grease on contact, without water. just wipe, and rinse. get dishes done faster.
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>> they have sent over a dozen emails assuring us there would not be an additional quarantine and they just told us that we'd be re-quarantined for 14 more days. we've just lost a whole month of my life. >> our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta is with us. sanjay, how bad is the situation from your view tonight? >> well, you know, if you look at the numbers overall, the cases still continue to increase but the pace at which we're seeing new cases has come down a bit. as you know, anderson, the early numbers in these situations are always hard to glean too much into, but obviously you'd want to see the pace at which these new cases are coming about to continue to decrease. so you want to see that trend continue. but what i thought was really interesting, there was this large study, some 44,000 patients they looked at, there was probably a lot for patients out there, but they were able to study 44,000. 80% of them, anderson, had either no symptoms or minimal
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symptoms, fully expected to recover. that's good. that sort of fits with what we're seeing a lot of people who are diagnosed with the infection but really having no symptoms. about 14%, 15%, where people lad more serious disease including pneumon pneumonia. about 5% of patients had critical disease. 2% of patients they say have died from this. but keep in mind, to get that 2% number, that's the number of deaths over the number of people infected. i don't think we really flow, sand, how many people are infected out there. probably a lot of people who have no symptoms or minimal simp symptoms. never get tested. you wouldn't know it. that brings the fatality ratio a lot lower. >> how does it compare to other viruses in terms of fatality? is there any way to compare it? >> yeah, you can look at, you know, everything from h1n1, zika. sars and mers are the ones that most often people draw the comparison because they're also part of the same family of viruses.
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the coronavirus family. again, you and i spent time in these situations where we see the leap of these pathogens from an plaimals to humans. that's how most of these pathogens get into the human population. it's happened seven times in the past with coronavirus. two of them have been problematic. sars and mers. compared to nosthose, this appe to be a lot less lethal. >> there's obviously been a lot of attention on the quarantine of the "diamond princess" cruise ship in japan. did that quarantine work? because apparently some american citizens who were infected -- infected with the virus were actually asymptomatic when they left the ship. >> yeah, this is such an interesting story to me. so the way this played out, they were -- the ship docked february 3rd. the people were supposed to go into quarantine until february 19th. but these passengers coming off the ship today as they're sort of en route now to be evacuated, test results from two to three days earlier come back as positive. as you mentioned, they're not sick at all so the decision is
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made to essentially go ahead and let those patients still fly home. i'm going to answer the question about the quarantine in a second, but take a look at some of these images. it's a 747 charter plane. i just thought this was so interesting. airflow is from the nose to the tail of the plane. crew, staff, they're in the front of the plane. that's, you know, they're doing the staffing of the plane. passengers sort of in the mid-body of the plane. what they created in the back of the plane was anit isolation ar on the plane. they take these passengers who have been diagnosed with the infection, the test came back positive, and essentially these ten-foot-tall plastic sheets are set up around these chairs. people can only get into that area one way. they can only get out one way. they essentially created an isolation area on a 747 plane. now, am i surprised that people are still getting infected on the ship? two things. first of all, a quarantine is not the same as isolation. we know people were still able to get out and about. they limited their activity, but people were still out and about getting fresh air.
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we know the -- there's a thousand crew members on the ship that were not in quarantine. you know, who it's possible that they could have been spreading the virus. it's also possible that these people who are infected got infected before the quarantine. and we're just seeing them at the sort of the end of their incubation period. >> wow. sanjay, appreciate all the information. thanks. >> you got it, thank you, anderson. ahead, millions held in prison and their families believe there's only one reason why. their religion. cnn investigates why these images may be far from the real picture of what u.s. officials call concentration camps. next. ♪
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we obtained rare leaked documents from inside. evidence that reveals an extraordinary level of surveillance, showing the chinese goth appears to be rounding up and obtaining citizens for arbitrary reasons. >> growing a long beard. making an international phone call. having a passport. these are all reasons that can land you in what u.s. officials call concentration camps in china. chilling revelations detailed in what appears to be a chinese government surveillance report on its citizens leaked. that's a region in western china where a mass internment policy forced up to 2 million muslims mostly from the country ethnic minority. into detention. >> the documents are spread sheets of data on more than 300 families living in one neighborhood of county. they provide highly detailed personal information including
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national id numbers, home addresses, history of foreign travel. religious practices and whether or not they are a threat. >> the authors believed to be chinese government officials then decide whether to keep individuals in what the chinese government calls vocational training centers. beijing wants the world to believe this mass job training program is rooting out violent extremism. but several survivors tell cnn the reality is these camps were crowded, prison like facilities where inmates were subjected to torture. >> due to china's crack down and a heavy curtain of censorship. independently confirming anything is difficult. >> why you're here. >> on a recent visit to the region. security forces harassed and blocked cnn from visiting the
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camp. >> however a cnn investigation tracked down living in exile. who verified the identities of the eight of the families profiled in the leaked report. investigation takes us to istanbul. here i meet a mother of three who whose name is on the document. >> that is you. your name. >> her name appeared under case number 358. which revealed that her younger sister was sent to a camp in march of 2018. for supposedly violating china family planning policy. that is having too many children.
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>> this is the first information she's had about her family since 2016. >> many living over seas say communication with their family back home was completely cut off. when china intensified the crack down. some are risking their lives to expose this sensitive information. >> this is the first time you're speaking publicly. about these documents. >> yes. this is the first time. >> he is a activist living in exile in the netherlands. last summer he received this trove of documents from a source in china. he won't identify for their safety. >> that was my birthday. and i got document. and very surprising. >> it is along with patch work of others living if exile who
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are sharing this information with the outside world. >> this document is like a micro cosm of what's happening. >> a u.s. base academic studying what he is convinced are internal chinese government documents. >> this is the future of authorityism. and changing populations who don't agree with the main regime. in terms of ideology, political identity or criteria. >> data analysis reveals among at least 484 people sent to camps, five were detained because they communicated with people over seas. 25 were detained for holding passport without visiting a foreign country. and 114 people were labeled a threat for simply having too many children. they were sent to fur different camps located within the sam
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community. using other open source governments documents. we found the locations of the four facilities. the number two training center located near the train station. >> this is where her second older sister was sent according to case number 597. her offense, having a passport and giving birth to too many children. she fears her family could be punished further because she's going public. >> why are you showing your face? to the outside world?
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>> cnn reached out to the chinese foreign ministry and the government in writing with detald questions. chinese officials did not respond. in the past beijing has denied allegations of mistreatment and arbitrary detention. he hopes that sharing documents will force beijing to ease its crack down. and lead to information about his own missing loved ones. >> this is my father. he is now in the jail. i don't know what exactly crime. chinese government lets free my father immediately.
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and lets free all immediately. >> the news continues let's turn it over to don lemon. "cnn tonight." this is a special edition of "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. happy president's day. bolton breaking his silence. less than two weeks after the impeachment victory. speaking to 1,200 people in a public appearance at duke university. you can bet he's getting under the president's skin. he's keeping his card close to his chest when it comes to what actually is in the book. asked if he agrees with the the ukraine call was perfect. he's how he answers. with a tease. he says you'll love chapter 14. here's what he
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