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people's backs like he had mike races was very clear. he is consolidating the groups that support him to a greater milken's back and bernie karik's extent than anyone is consolidating the groups that resist him. he is winning a very high share of young people in polling here back and rod blagojevich. and in california. he'll do well among latino i think both stone and flynn are going home by the end of the voters. he has a bigger piece of the pie year. >> the news continues when i than any other democrat at this hand it over to chris for "cuomo point. but whether he can really get prime time." >> thank you, anderson. this to a position where enough of the party is comfortable with i am chris cuomo and welcome to him, that he is kind of an "prime time." we are seeing right now in odds-on favorite to acquire a realtime what a president can first ballot majority, i'm still not convinced. do. he just named a head of national when i go to events for the intelligence who is not a day of other candidates, it is still rare to see anyone who is experience in the field. actively considering sanders. think about that. not in intelligence, not in his audience is deep and the national security, not in the most passionate in the democratic race, but there is military. he also pardoned political concerns beyond his audience. friends who are clearly corrupt. it's going on right behind me, and he may do the same for roger this debate here tonight. the other democrats are trying stone. but we have a juror from that to focus on some of those issues case who's here to set the more than we've seen before. record straight. >> you know what else you notice what do you say? let's get after it. when you go to rallies for other candidates? nowhere near as big as his.
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bernie is the only one with a a president who once agreed movement. trump was the only one with a no one is above the law, now movement. can that be the main factor in post impeachment says he is in pushing him forward? control of all law. >> yeah. it is different. there's no question that sanders is leading a movement. >> i'm actually, i guess, the and if the democrats nominate chief law enforcement officer of the country. him and they will be placing a >> he has to guess? very large bet on that movement. and guess what, he guessed essentially what you're doing is wrong. the attorney general is our country's chief law enforcement officer. trading no voters for nonvoters. but you didn't hear bill barr say anything about the president the claim is he can bring in taking his control because trump is right in this way, he regular people that haven't voted at all and the risk is you controls this attorney general in a way that we have not often drive away a certain portion of seen, from softness on stone to soez suburban white collar white voters doing fine economically but don't like donald trump and stonewalling on mueller to accusing his own agency of delivered the house to the democrats in 2020. spying on trump. i think a sanders nomination don't believe this noise about would be very much an explicit barr's frustration, he is all expression of that precise about loyalty to one man, wager. >> and the trade on that, ron, president donald j. trump. and you know what? is the point that you were making to me before the show, now it seems trump doesn't even harry, yeah, he's got a movement. need barr because he just showed but a movement of how big a part us he can just pardon obvious of the party. it may only be 24%, 25% of the
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corruption. party. there's a lot of pie left. 11 pardons or commeutations to >> there is a lot of pie left string of white collar criminals and i think ron makes a great point. i'm not sure there's any and political allies including the american poster boy for candidate who could get a majority of the delegates after corruption, rod blagojevich. and guess what, today blaggo all the contests are done. it seems pretty clear that he kissed the ring. has the clearest bet to a >> we want to express our most profound and ever lasting plurality of the delegates. gratitude to president trump. let's say he goes to super tuesday and national polls are representative of what might you properly thank someone that happen. he'll probably end up with 40% of the delegates on super gives you back the freedom that tuesday. and to me going forward as he was stolen from you. gets those delegate -- big the trumpocrat. delegate leads and all the contests are proportional, it's >> what is that? that's a breed more rare than going to be difficult to take the jackalope. that delegate lead away from him. saying you go into milwaukee and the trumpocrat is on the left he doesn't have a majority of and the jackalope is on the delegates, i can't believe the democratic party will take away the nomination from somebody who has 40% to 45% of the delegates. right. >> if that's what happens going in, what a convention that's th he was impeached 114-1. he was trying to shake down a children's hospital charity. going to be. he literally wanted to sell veteran news man sam donaldson is taking fire. barack obama's vacant senate here's the question. did sam cross an uncrossable
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line by backing bloomberg? seat. >> if i get nothing back for he knew this question was coming. he has an answer and an argument obama, then, uh, i'm going in to be tested, next. - [narrator] meet the ninja foodi pressure cooker another direction, you know what i'm saying? i've got this thing and it's [ bleep ] golden. and i'm not just giving it up for [ bleep ] nothing. >> trump argues in a tweet that blaggo didn't sell the senate seat, nothing happened. yeah, nothing happened because he was caught in the attempted bribe. sound familiar? of course it is. trump doesn't see this as corruption by blago and others. and yet he wants you to think he's the world's greatest anti-corruption crusader. his next cause, roger stone. first trump said the sentence was too harsh. guess what, the attorney general lessened it. now he's hinting that the case was rigged. but you know what? we have someone here tonight to
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tell you no way. juror number three, speaking out for the first time about the president's stone cold attack on the case he helped decide. with tender crisp technology. mr. cousins, thank you for the best of pressure cooking and air frying joining us. >> thank you. glad to be here. >> so you guys deliberated for are now in one pot. eight hours on the roger stone case. what was your sense in the room? and only the ninja foodi has tender crisp technology, i've read your op-ed, but for the audience, was this a very so you can cook foods that are crispy on the outside hard decision for the jury on and juicy on the inside. these seven counts? >> it was not. you may never need another appliance ever again. there was one particular count and one particular element of one count that we spent probably the ninja foodi pressure cooker. the pressure cooker that crisps. half the time debating. but i would say for the most part we came to a unanimous conclusion on each element and each charge pretty quickly and pretty easily. >> now there's a new debate. the president says something funny here. funny the way it was prosecuted, funny the way the jury was. one of the jurors seem to be a by consolidating your credit card debt democrat who was the foreperson. you seem to not like the into one monthly payment. president in your op-ed. and get your interest rate right so you can save big.
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was this rigged? >> this was not rigged, no, sir. get a no-fee personal loan >> how can you make people up to $100k. confident of that fact? >> the president says it was. they get that no two people are alike and customize your car get a no-fee personal loan there's no way thaert he should insurance so you only pay for what you need. have been convicted to what he what do you think? did. what do people need to know? i don't see it. >> i think the most important only pay for what you need. thing people need to know is ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ that we followed a very rigorous process as a group, as a jury group. we looked at every element of every single charge and we looked into the evidence. we tried to construct reasonable alternative explanations. and only when all of that failed did each of us individually make the decision to vote guilty and decide that each element and each charge had been proven. >> did you pick up on the foreperson's political proclivities in terms of how they handled the position and the deliberations? >> no, absolutely not. the irony here is that tameka
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hart who we elected as the foreperson, she was probably the strongest advocate in the room for a rigorous process, for the rights of the defendant and for making sure that we took it seriously and looked at each charge. without her in the room, we would have returned the same verdict and we would have returned it more quickly and without looking as deeply into the evidence. i am firmly convinced of that. >> that's an interesting counter point. in general, how does it make you feel that the president is basically questioning the motives of a jury of peers? >> chris, i'm appalled, honestly. i think it's appalling for the president to be attacking american citizens for fulfilling their duties to our republic. further, i think the actions of the president and of the attorney general called -- i don't know, they cast doubt on the bedrock of the equal administration of justice that is just so important to our country. i think he damages our democracy
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by attacking this way and i wish he would stop. >> what's your sense right now about having learned about roger stone and his relationship with the president. do you have an uneasy feeling that this wasn't about justice, that he's going to get out of this? >> well, my understanding is that the president has the ability to pardon anyone -- >> yes. the stakes are so high in >> -- for anything at any time. >> pretty much. this election that people, some >> honestly if that's the end people who see the idea of a game, i wish he would just go second term of president trump ahead and do it now, rather than so threatening that they are continuing these baseless willing to go to extremes. attacks. >> if he were to pardon roger in fact we have a man about to stone, would that meet any join us who is going somewhere definition of fairness to you? that no journalist has ever really gone, especially, and >> no, certainly not fair. here's the qualifier, a legal perhaps, but not fair. high-profile, highly respected, >> why? highly known journalist, like my >> well, roger stone -- we friend, abc news colleague and convicted roger stone not of his my mentor, the venerable sam politics, we didn't convict him of acting boorishly, we donaldson. convicted him of obstructing a welcome, sir. congressional inquiry, of lying can you hear me, sam? in that inquiry, and of
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tampering with a witness, who was also meant to participate in that inquiry. the old "i can't hear you" getting at the truth of things is a very important thing and trick. that's one of the congress' sam, can you hear me or no? fundamental oversight responsibilities, as i all right, let's get sam's mike understand it. working. i'll take a break -- >> now i hear you. tampering with that, that >> now you hear me? >> now i hear you, chris. responsibility and congress' where have you been? >> that was a clever filibuster. ability to fulfill that you taught me that trick when i responsibility, it just feels was anchoring with you many like a dangerous road to me. >> you sat in that trial and you years ago, the old "i can't hear watched what happened between the parties and the judge. you" trick, huh? this is now left on judge >> so what did you ask me and i'll give you an answer. jackson's plate, what sentence >> take a guess. to give. look, you knew this question was what was your sense of the judge? >> my sense of the judge, chris, coming. you knew that you were doing something controversial as being is that she was firm, fair, ran a respected newsman and journalist going all over and a very good process through the working with a campaign. courtroom. of course we only interacted you knew it would get with her in the courtroom, other criticized, you did it anyway. why? than after the verdict was rendered, she came back to the >> well, you know, a good friend jury room to thank us for our service. but through the whole process, of mine said the other day i never thought i'd see this when from the beginning of jury he saw i've done what i've done,
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selection through the conduct of which is to sign on as an unpaid the trial and through the conclusion, i felt like she was volunteer to work in the sense of trying to elect mike doing a -- from my perspective, bloomberg the president of the a very fair job of making sure that the defense was heard, that united states. well, i never thought i was the prosecution was heard, and going to do anything like this that we as the jury were getting again. the information that would help i retired from the news business, 52 years in us understand the facts and washington. never gave any money, not a bit. render a verdict. >> seth cousins, i appreciate member of a party. your perspective and i thank you and i went home to albuquerque, for your service on the jury. new mexico, and sat around. it's not easy to get people in there to do the job. thank you for doing it. but i believe, now, this is >> thank you, sir. melodramatic, chris, this is the >> all right, so there you have most important election since it from somebody who was in the the civil war and one on which room, the truth about the stone the country's future, whether we verdict. so here's the proposition. maintain the values, we maintain if you want to support trump, the kind of freedoms that we've you have to accept that the man enjoyed, maintain the who said ukraine was only about constitutional freedoms that we fighting corruption, just freed have, we'll either continue to have or not. or pardoned a bunch of clearly so i'm sitting around and saying corrupt guys and is talking the now i'm out of the fray, why same way about stone. guess what, all of this isn't don't i let the next-door even his most extraordinary move neighbor do it, the guy down the street. after all, maybe my former of the week. wait until we get into his latest appointment with a top colleagues in the news business
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rewarded by the president. tonight trump announced that richard grenell, the current u.s. ambassador to germany and staunch trump loyalist will replace joseph maguire as acting spy chief, the director of national intelligence. they actually don't like being called spies. but this is a stunning change. let's get some thoughts from kentucky republican congressman james comer. good to have you back on "prime time," sir. >> thanks for having me. >> i have no problem with the president picking people who are loyal to him. why would he or she, if we ever have a female president, why would you want someone close to you that is disloyal. the issue is the pedigree. joe maguire, he's 30 plus years navy experience. this is the first time we've ever seen somebody with absolutely no experience except all right, we're back with sam donaldson. with being loyal to the sam, the audience heard your president in a job as important as this. argument. how do you support it? the counter to your argument is this. you could do everything you say >> well, the ambassador has more you need to do but you didn't
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experience than you state. have to join the campaign, even he's served several presidents. as an unpaid volunteer. he's been an advisor to people you could have kept your credential as a former like mitt romney. certainly served well in his journalist, stayed out of the position as ambassador to campaign and spared this apparent conflict of ethics. germany. but the president has the >> yeah, i guess i could. authority to pick anyone he wants. i could have gone down to the >> yes. >> i think if you look at what's street corner in albuquerque and happened with the intelligence community over the past three tried to get a crowd to listen years, this is an entity that to my message for bloomberg. but i thought it's easier if the needs to be disrupted. and what the president signalled bloomberg people get a crowd and today is he's going to send say, hey, these guys say they someone in on a temporary basis want to hear you. to evaluate it and try to begin we've got 400 or 500 people, whatever it is, go talk to them. the process of disrupting it. >> what does that mean >> you're on this show right now disrupting it, congressman? because you're sam donaldson, not because you're a surrogate and i want to understand what you mean by what you think his job is. for bloomberg. people want to hear what you >> well, what we've had with the have to say. would you do it differently if intelligence community is just, you could do it again? for example, the fisa abuses. >> oh, no. now that i've heard a little this is something that a lot of criticism about my having done americans are concerned about. what i've done and send word to this was something that when the bloomberg people, no, i'm this was granted, this ability sorry, i made a mistake? was out there that many members no. in congress and many americans i didn't make a mistake. >> and the journalists who say, were concerned that this would
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be abused, and i think we saw sam, you're killing us. they always say we're on the left and we're for candidates during the mueller investigation and we're partisan and we hide and the genesis of the whole it. now you've given them reason to russia investigation that the say it's true about all of us. fisa warrants were unwarranted. >> i'm killing them? and there has been abuse within listen to me, my good friend, the intelligence community. and i'm not asking you to >> well, people can read the inspector general's report for confess anything. but if you think reporters in themselves, but he certainly didn't find that the warrants washington or any place else have no idea what's going on. were unwarranted. we must all remember, congress i don't know, should this health care plan, i don't know, because passed and created the fisa if i had an idea and i kept it courts as an insulation. >> they did. >> and as a way, a mechanism of secret and then some day they found it out, oh, you have seeing things transparently. betrayed journalism. let's not get into the weeds. that is nonsense. grenell is going into a place he everybody worth his salt in this knows nothing about it. he worked forromney, he worked country and has been following things knows what's going on and has made up their mind. for governor ptaki in new york. differently, that's true. he's never been in the field of that's what makes it an intelligence before and he now argument, a horse race and a political season. is in the job of coordinating but to think that somehow all the heads of intelligence. that sounds like a good pick for because if i just not -- if i'd you? >> i don't think the president come on your program, and i is going to put a career think i did before i signed on intelligence bureaucrat in that with bloomberg. >> you did. >> and said, you know, i think position. the president is going to put an this guy may be the guy. outsider in that position, as i think he's got good -- that clearly he's had a difficult would be okay.
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relationship with the but once i say -- yes, i say it intelligence community. clearly a lot of members of again, i am an unpaid volunteer congress, myself included, have with the bloomberg campaign. a certain bit of distrust. you should know that, and you can weigh my view against that >> you can't find anybody that likes him that has experience in if you want. the intelligence community or the military or national of course. it's the same thing. security or in anything? my view is the same. >> all right. >> well, i think the president we've handled your decision and how you argue it, good. has a right to pick grenell. now, the decision that you made and the person that you say is i think grenell has done a great the right choice. so bloomberg is on the stage job as ambassador to germany and tonight. he's taking some hits. i think he'll do a great job on why do you believe that he is a temporary basis in this better than a bernie sanders, a position. >> why would the president keep joe biden, a buttigieg, a skirting the need as confirming klobuchar? just because he's rich? >> no, not because he's rich at somebody? even your colleagues in the all, because i think he's very senate are talking to reporters solid. i think he's run the city of new and saying this is an issue. york pretty well, has that kind so is it as simple as you can't of record. get them confirmed, so you make and i think he, by making that them acting? is that a good use of power? great empire of his with all >> it's so polarizing in the that money legally and ethically senate and in the house, but in the senate where they do shows that his determination can confirmations that the senate is get it done. becoming a personnel agency. i really do. look, on that stage tonight in the confirmation process is nevada, early in the debate they
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taking weeks. all took a shot at bloomberg. >> it's your agency. of course they have to try to it's run by your people. take him down. mcconnell runs it. someone painted him to the left all you need is a simple just a little bit to the left of majority to get him through. >> you need a simple majority, but every senator wants to speak and every senator wants an opinion. george wallace standing in a >> so you don't trust your own schoolhouse door against party? minorities. >> no, i do trust my own party. somebody else brought up women -- they didn't say it in i think senator mcconnell has done a great job through the so many words but painted him as confirmation process. he's confirmed a lot of judges. not quite as bad as harvey weinstein and somebody else >> he's done a lot of judges but pointed him as a big loaded hasn't done enough that you can let him do this? >> no, he can do it. arrogant billionaire. he will tell you, i'm sure, that then it was interesting, chris, it will take a long time to they turned on themselves. confirm all the vacancies that the last that i saw it, they the president has. were savagely knowing that the the president quite frankly is having a hard time filling the real problem was someone is going to have to stand up to vacancies because of what each cabinet secretary and each bloomberg. i think it's probably going to conferee has to go through once be bernie. they get confirmed. not only is the confirmation >> what do you think happens? process brutal. if you go to the convention and once they get in office and it's a brokered convention, what serve as a cabinet secretary, they used to call a brokered it's a nonstop barrage of convention and you have bernie negative media reports, nonstop sanders who's got a real movement behind him and a barrage of accusations from plurality of the delegates democrat politicians in washington. hypothetically, how does that it's basically the swamp party come together when
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fighting against the people that bloomberg and he are like oil and water? >> that is a very good question the president has put in there to drain the swamp. and very difficult. >> hold on a second. i watched in 1968, mccarthy, that's a good segue, congressman. senator mccarthy take his very i don't understand how with a big broad smile on your handsome passionate people, like the face you can talk about draining passionate people for bernie sanders, away from that the swamp when this president convention in chicago. just let some of the biggest we all got tear gassed. it didn't work for hubert alligators in recent history humphrey, they weren't going to back into the waters around d.c. do that. how can you say he's about their man had lost, hubert draining the swamp after he lets humphrey lost and we had richard go rod blagojevich? nixon, thank you very much. >> well, he's -- he is about now, this is all logical and i know we're talking emotion. draining the swamp. he has been draining the swamp. how can we get sanders people, >> how? >> of all the pardons today -- the army, the bros to back of all the pardons today, chris, michael bloomberg or anyone else for that matter? the only pardon that i would it's not just bloomberg, they consider a swamp creature would feel that way about pete, you have been blagojevich. heard about joe biden certainly. but if you look at blagojevich, i think it's a big question. what he did, he served a long but i think at the end of the going to be sanders versus time in prison. and many people, myself bloomberg at the convention, and the one thing that could bring included, even the politico the party together is who can story today about the reporter that covered the whole blagojevich trial said that that beat donald j. trump. was an excessive sentence. i think it's going away >> who cares what a reporter says about the sentence? bloomberg. and i'm just an unpaid volunteer
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it was 114-1 to impeach him. for bloomberg, folks, i don't he tried to sell a senate seat want you to forget that. >> it's not the unpaid part, and play with a children's hospital charity. sam, it's just being part of the campaign that raised a lot of why if you are about corruption and draining the swamp -- why hackles but i respect you owning would you send the message that it and giving your answer on the you will forgive someone who did show. you are welcome always to argue something so corrupt? the case for bloomberg or for why? >> i think the message the president is sending is he's anything else. >> only if you invite me. serious about criminal justice i can't handle the gate crashers reform. sadly it takes a high-profile so i have to have an invitation. pardon like rod blagojevich to >> you will be invited. just do try the ifp thing again. demonstrate the fact that one of the problems with the justice be well, sam donaldson, thank system in america is there are you. all right, closing argument excessive sentences being handed is coming up. and that's that people should out. >> for people like rod blagojevich? >> well, for minorities. stop saying trump is normalizing >> he's not the poster boy of corruption by his recent acts, the problem. accented by these pardons. if there's one thing you hear you are missing the reality. about, especially when you go to i argue it, next. the inner cities, the people there, they're so upset that debartolo got busted for paying that $400,000 to the governor for that riverboat license. they scream no justice, no peace, every time you bring up ed debartolo jr.
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come on, congressman, these people have nothing to do with the problem of sentencing standards. there are tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of people rotting in jail for offenses that are nothing compared to what these men are just forgiven for. >> i think that the pardons that the president gave today were just. blagojevich was the one that i would consider a political swamp creature. but at the end of the day, he got an excessive sentence. >> the lobbyist wasn't a swamp 5g will change business in america. t-mobile has the first and only, creature? debartolo wasn't one? nationwide 5g network. and with it, you can shape the future. bernie karik a man i know and we've invested 30 billion dollars admired many years, worked for and built our new 5g network for businesses like yours. while some 5g signals only go a few blocks, guiliani, worked for the govr s government, he's part of that circle? t-mobile 5g goes for miles. come on, congressman, they're no other 5g signal goes farther all part of the circle that you or is more reliable in business. said he would be better than and he's just the same at best. tomorrow is in your hands. partner with t-mobile for business today. >> the good thing the president has authority to do pardons yes. stand up to moderate tomorrow is in your hands. to severe rheumatoid arthritis.
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>> the president is serious and take. it. on with rinvoq. about criminal justice reform. the pardons today will continue the conversation about criminal rinvoq a once-daily pill justice reform. if the american people are can dramatically improve symptoms... offended by these pardons, rinvoq helps tame pain, stiffness, swelling. they'll have a new ability to choose a new president in november. and for some... rinvoq can even significantly reduce ra fatigue. the one thing about these pardons compared to pardons from previous presidents, the that's rinvoq relief. president is transparent about with ra, your overactive immune system that. >> that is true. >> he did it today. attacks your joints. rinvoq regulates it to help stop the attack. he justified his pardons. >> that is true. >> and if the democrat candidates for president think rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, that they can run a successful including tuberculosis. presidential campaign based on a pardon -- serious infections and blood clots, sometimes fatal, >> that is true. >> blagojevich, after he saved have occurred as have certain cancers, eight years, they have more -- including lymphoma, and tears in the stomach >> he hides nothing, you're or intestines, and changes in lab results. absolutely right. we agree with that. your doctor should monitor your bloodwork. this president hides nothing. he does it all in plain sight tell your doctor about any infections and if you are because he has been completely or may become pregnant while taking rinvoq. empowered to do so by your party. he's got nothing to fear. ready to take on ra? you're right, we'll see what talk to your rheumatologist about rinvoq relief. happens in the election. you're always welcome here to rinvoq. make it your mission. make the case. congressman, thank you. >> thank you, chris, for having me. >> my take is this president can
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the same way he played you with this idea. >> do you want americ to be ruled by the corrupt political class or do you want america to be ruled again by the people. >> and pence the great echo. the following echo. >> the american people are sick and tired of pay to play politics in washington and we will bring it to a crashing halt. >> i argue trump has done only the opposite. he asked russia to interfere in elections now asang is saying he was promised a pardon if he said russia wasn't behind it. i don't know if we should believe him. but trump said when he was after corruption with ukraine, and then tried to black hail the president. stone convicted of lying. to help who? trump. his campaign cited for attempting to do the same thing.
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the list goes on and on. why? this is who trump is. more proof, remember what he said about rob in august. he's been in jail over a phone call where nothing happens. i would think that there have been many politicians, i'm not one of them, that said worse over the telephone. for the record the call wasn't a crime. the fact that you don't complete a bribe doesn't make it okay. and the reason he didn't complete is is because he got caught. trump sees that as no big deal senator bernie sanders is leading the pack of democrats at because he did the same thing. he say anything like 28% in cnn's poll of polls. that over the phone? what is that? it's the average of the five he was impeached for the doing most recent national surveys on the same thing. attempting a bribe. the race. trump is not trying to get you and with sanders running strong to see ab normal things as in nevada heading into saturday's caucuses, what can normal. he actually sees things like stop him? is he the only candidate leading a movement? yes. could that be the big corruption, obstruction and tax difference? we'll see. the wizard of odds, harry enton fraud and bribery as part of the
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is here, along with our game. it's only wrong if you get professor, ron brownstein. caught. maybe. so, he grants clemency to three gentlemen, thank you both. harry, make the case that bernie dozen people. could be the man. >> okay. and they have overwhelmingly so there's all this talk of a ceiling and i get why there's been people with a direct line talk of a ceiling. to the white house or served as those late deciders in both iowa and new hampshire. political, milken, what's the he got a much lower vote share of them but here's what i think big deference between them and is key. yes, he's in first place with 28% and he's sort of been trump? trump can't be prosecuted. hovering in the mid-20s. at least not right now. but add those first and second his party has made it clear he choices together. can do whatever he wants. you get all the way up to 41%. that's not the sign to me of so is someone guilty of someone who has a ceiling. i think there's one another very normalizing the ab normal, yes. it's not trump. key nugget here. it's the gop. nbc news essentially tested exhibit a. sanders against two of the >> i'm saying mr. president the leading moderate candidates, phone call was okay with me. bloomberg and buttigieg. when you get down to sanders versus bloomberg, he blows >> exhibit b. >> you really think he was bloomberg out of the water serious about thinking that 57-37% and against buttigieg he china will investigate the biden leads 54-38%. that's not the sign to me if all family? >> exhibit c. the moderate candidates got >> because russia interfered the
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together, that type of math media pretends nobody else did. doesn't work for me. >> they didn't even do a matchup with biden. >> all the main goppers blaming what does that tell you? professor, the idea of a ceiling the scrutiny on trump on is now looking more like a anything but the obvious. church cathedral ceiling, very >> because you don't like the high, very high fst two guy. you haven't liked him since november 2016. >> no, he's got it backwards. you guys didn't like him back then. cruz without the beard. graham called trump thoroughly corrupt. when they were campaigning. and worse. your whole field and elected friends called him a cheat and a fraud and promised that donald trump would bring disrespect to the office. so what changed? trump hasn't. not a bit. what changed is the party is feeding off the teet of feelty. the gop is no longer grand. the mighty pachyderm is packing it in. trump isn't a member of the gop.
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you are part of the trump organization. you sound like representatives of the failed casinos than people elected to check his power. that is my argument. thank you very much for watching. it is time now for "cnn tonight." with don lemon. >> welcome back. you call it feelty. which you're right i'm sure. i call it hypocrisy. a party of hypocrites now. it's harsh and people say i'm partisan. it's the truth. you are right when you say he hasn't changed. what changed are the lawmakers. they came over to his side because they want power or fear, afraid of him. the people who remain the same and are not afraid of this president are called what is it, trump derangement syndrome. >> never trumpers. >> no, he hasn't changed.
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what does that say about you that you changed when you hated him before? >> the idea of he's normalizing corruption. that assumes that he's trying to put one over on you. he isn't. he sees these things as normal. corruption normal. he's always done it this way. he continues to. the governor didn't do anything wrong because he didn't get caught. what's the big deal. that is legit in his
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