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let's go straight to jean casarez outside the courthouse. jean, tell us what you know. >> reporter: well, john, there were five counts altogether, but the jury could not find on all counts, because there was a road map and there were some charges of lesser offenses, but here's how it comes down. count 1, which was predatory sexual assault, a very serious felony where you are a predator, it is maximum life in prison, not guilty. count 2, criminal sexual act in the first degree, guilty. and that's in regard to one of the accusers in 2006 saying she was sexually assaulted violently by harvey weinstein in his new york city apartment right here in soho. count 3, predatory sexual assault, not guilty, the other most serious felony. count 4, rape in the first degree, not guilty. count 5, rape in the third degree, guilty. and that is for jessica mann who
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alleges in 2013 she was violently raped in a hotel room here in new york city. so the two most recent accusers that had individual charges that went to the jury, the jury believed them. not to the point of rape in the first degree, which is more serious than rape in the third degree, but there is a conviction for both of those accusers. >> jean, take us inside the courtroom. what do we know about weinstein's reaction, whether the jury looked at him, and now he's been freed during this trial. do we know if he'll be kept in custody or released? >> reporter: well, here's what we have so far because the proceeding is still going on, but we do know from our producers in the courtroom, the jury filed in, and there is always that moment, and it's nervous for everyone in that courtroom when you don't know what's going to happen. the jury, we understand, looked around the courtroom. they didn't look at the defendant, which is so indicative of what is ultimately going to happen. i've seen that before.
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they didn't specifically look at people, just gazing around the courtroom, and then the verdict was read, and then it is the duty of the court and it was done, they have to poll each and every juror to make sure it is their true and honest verdict. that was done, they did say that. harvey weinstein was seated at the defense table. hard to see him because at that point five armed officers were around him standing in a circle around him, and they actually brought in 13 law enforcement into that courtroom before that jury was announced. so very secure, very precise in the plan of what they were going to do. let's look at the penalties for a minute, because not guilty was on the life felonies. but in regard to criminal sexual act in the first degree, count 2, minimum is 5, maximum is 25. and when you look at criminal rape in the third degree, it is a probationary offense, and it
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can go up to four years in prison, john. >> jean casarez outside the courthouse. stand by for us and bring us any information as you get it. now let's bring in our senior legal analyst paul callan and jennifer, let's come back to you. they were hung up on some counts. what's your interpretation of what happened in the end and what it means for harvey weinstein? >> well, it means prison time for harvey weinstein, and it's clear the judge gave them an instruction, encouraged them to keep working, and they did that. they were a very diligent jury. they worked at this for days. they asked for a lot of evidence to be reviewed, and in the end they were able to reach a unanimous verdict on all five counts, which means they did their job here. >> what they wouldn't convict on, paul, was the more serious counts that could carry a life sentence. harvey weinstein is 77 years old. any prison time is ticking against the clock here. what does that tell you about
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the prosecution's case? >> well, the prosecution's case was the kind of case, john, that years ago probably wouldn't have been brought by a prosecutor, and i say that because the women involved, most of them, admitted they had voluntary sexual relationships with weinstein after the rape and the forced oral s sex. this was something the prosecutor developed as this was his standard operating procedure. he would engage in forced conduct and involuntary conduct with women, and then he would groom them by saying, you're going to lose your job in the industry unless you play ball with me, so he used his power in the entertainment industry to force them into silence. so this is a big, big victory, i think, for the #metoo movement. harvey weinstein, yes, he was not convicted on the top counts which could have sent him to prison for life. but the counts he was convicted on, john, one of them you can do
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25 years in prison, the other you can do up to four years in prison. so you can be sure, i think, that there will be a very serious jail sentence here, and he's ahead for -- a whole lot of hurt is ahead for harvey weinstein as a result of these verdicts. >> i'm going to ask paul and generjennifer to stand by. we are getting reaction from people in a town where he was once legendary. >> reporter: right, i just spoke to the silence breakers. they are a group of women, including women who have accused harvey weinstein of misconduct. they said, quote, this conviction would not be possible without the testimony of the courageous women and the many women who have spoken out. this is just moments ago. but john, i also want to tell you, i have just spoken to harvey weinstein's publicist who tells me an attorney is already
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on their way to the appellate court to file an appeal. remember, i spoke to harvey weinstein just a few days before this criminal trial even started. he has been adamant that he will make movies again, and that even if he was found guilty of any counts, that he's always believed he could file an appeal and have the life that he once had. also, remember, he does have charges that he will ultimately face at some point, we don't know when, here in los angeles. but again, just moments ago, speaking to those silence breakers, those women who have come forward, that i myself have spoken to so many of them with my reporting over the last two years -- don't forget, i was in the courtroom for jessica mann's testimony, and she broke down crying. she could barely get through the recounting what she said had happened to her. at one point she had a panic attack and had to actually leave the stand. so very emotional for so many men and women and especially
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those silence breakers that feel so much satisfaction and a wide range of emotions this morning. >> chloe, i appreciate the reporting from both sides there. i want to come back to paul callan and jennifer rogers. he says he feels like he'll be back making films at some point. the jury has adjourned. paul, to you first, will remand happen now? >> it's not automatic, it's up to the judge. but i have to tell you, having represented people with charges like this in that very courtroom that normally the defendant is remanded. and he's remanded because there is a fear that he would flee if left at large. now, remember, he's facing up to 25 years on one charge, up to four years on the other new york charge, and he has charges pending in california. so he certainly has motive to flee, and he certainly has the
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resources to flee if he wanted to. so it would be very surprising if he was not remanded. and by the way, that lawyer who is on his way to the appellate court, my bet is he's not on his way to the appellate court to file an appeal of the underlying conviction, they're getting ready to file an appeal if the judge orders a remand to prison immediately to get the appellate court to agree that he should be released pending the appeal. >> and jen, i loved your perspective. you talked about this a little earlier after you heard chloe's reporting about the silence breakers of women who have come forward. this is a trial of harvey weinstein, but as paul noted earlier, it was a signature moment for the #metoo movement. >> it is, and there were some victims of just weinstein alone, and they're practically their own movement when you're talking about women who were involved with him. they're likely breathing a sigh
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of relief. i think they feel justice has been served here. they have another opportunity at it with the case in l.a., so we haven't heard the last of it. i do hope for these women there is a measure of comfort that the justice system has worked. when we come back, harvey weinstein convicted on two of five sexual assault charges. more details from inside the courtroom and what happens next, when we return. yes! yes. yes. yeah sure. yes yes. yeah, yeah no problem. yes. yes, yes a thousand times yes! discover. accepted at over 95% of places in the u.s. doprevagen is the number oneild mempharmacist-recommendeding? memory support brand. you can find it in the vitamin aisle in stores everywhere. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. no no no no no, there's no space there! maybe over here? hot! hot!
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more now on major breaking news this hour in the criminal trial of harvey weinstein. a jury found him guilty of two felony counts of sexual assault. the time is up, calling it a new era of justice. let's get back to jean casarez outside the supreme court. jean, we're looking at photos
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from inside the courthouse as people are looking to see if he comes outside as well. >> reporter: heerre's what we'r learning right now. the prosecution asked for weinstein to be remanded into custody, which we thought they would do because of these sex crimes. the defense argued very strongly that because his behavior in court had been very professional, always showing up. number two, his medical issues, his back and his eyes. and then number three, the fact that he was not convicted of the most serious charges should allow for him to stay out pending sentencing. now, we are just learning from my producer in the courtroom that the judge remanded weinstein, harvey weinstein, now a convicted felon, into custody. the judge is making a judicial request for the infamy. he is being handcuffed right
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now. this is not what the defense wanted. they wanted him to be free on that bail until that sentencing, but our producers in court are saying he is being remanded into custody as a convicted felon of two sex crimes. >> jean, take us back for viewers who might be seeing the verdict now who have not closely followed the trial. there were five charges against harvey weinstein. as you noted, he was not convicted on the charges that carried the most serious penalties, potentially life in prison, but walk us through for viewers who are first joining in this verdict. harvey weinstein now being held in custody awaiting sentencing. he will appeal the most dramatic moments as his trial transpired. >> reporter: that's right, the jury announced on friday, which was very innocuous. he was found not guilty of sexual predatory assault, meaning someone is a predator.
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it is extremely serious with up to life in prison. he was found guilty on two prison terms, but there is a range, and so the judge is able to look at the circumstances, the facts and circumstances, criminal sexual act in the first degree, five years to 25 years, rape in the third degree, it can be a probationary offense, and up to four years in prison. >> jean casarez outside the courthouse, appreciate the update in reporting. please stand by and bring us any details as you get it. our chief media correspondent, brian stelter, is in new york. brian, you just heard jean describing harvey weinstein being handcuffed, remanded into custody after being convicted on two of these five counts. once an icon of hollywood now a prisoner and ward of the state. >> it was a month before the "new york times" exposed his behavior. he looked like he was the biggest star at the party, crowds surrounding him, all
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wanting a minute of his attention. harvey weinstein was one of the most powerful media moguls in the world. he was on the decline by 2017. he had had some bad breaks in business by that point. but in the 1990s and the 2000s, he was a king and independent star of the movie circuit. this was the man with the power to make or break careers. that is what he did over and over again. he paid people off, he bought their silence, he buried his own secrets which we now learned about thanks to the reporting of megan cantor of the "new york times." those stories in 2019 changed harvey weinstein's life. they empowered these victims who were fimnally heard and they changed the #metoo movement, which is now a household name. this is an important moment in justice. another group called the silence breakers said, it is
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disappointing the outcome doesn't give the true justice these women deserve, but harvey weinstein is now labeled a true sexual predator. harvey weinstein, with 40 years of allegations without accountability, for the first time in his life, he's being held accountable. >> i want to follow up on that important point, brian, because as you note, sometimes we should just take a pause and pay tribute to determine to persist in credible reporting, especially when you're taking on the powerful and holding them accountable, because you know the brushback will begin. because of that reporting, we saw amazing courage of people in the industry who went into that trial and testified after years of keeping silent because they were afraid their careers would be ruined if they had the courage to speak up. >> and in some cases, he did ruin those careers. there's pretty clear evidence that he was able to wield his
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power and influence in order to hurt women who he feared would come forward and talk about what they alleged he had done. it was done for money, it was done for connections he had through the industry inside the hollywood business. time's up, you mentioned "time's up" statement that this is a new era of justice, not just for silence breakers in this particular case, but for all harassers of abuse ain silence t work. even people around the country who heard about harvey weinstein and heard about these crimes, they are looking and saying, there is a measure of justice. justice delayed, but fwiinally this moment, justice for these victims. it is an incredible tribute to those women who came forward by the dozens, john. the new yorker counted 100 women with counts against harvey weinstein. >> 100 women. remarkable. let's go back to our legal experts, paul callan and jennifer rodgers. paul, you talked about it
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beforehand, that the prosecution would request remand, that you expected remand in this case. harvey weinstein's team making the case he showed up every time, he has health issues. the judge saying, sorry, no. >> i'm not surprised that the judge ordered a remand. customarily that would be done in such a serious case. yes, he was not convicted on the most serious charges, but one of those charges is a 25-year-in-prison charge, the other is four years, and by the way, a judge could run those sentences consecutive, and that's why he is on his way, or will be soon, to rikers island where maybe he'll be put in the hospital wing if he has these medical problems that his attorney says, but he's likely to be put, i would imagine, in solitary confinement for his own protection. because that's a tough place with people incarcerated there awaiting charges for murder, kidnapping, robbery, sex offenses, all kinds of very
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serious offenses. >> jennifer, help us look forward in the sense that he's now going to be remanded into custody pending sentencing, convicted on two of these charges, 67 years old. harvey weinstein is going to be sentenced to roughly what? >> the top charge he was convicted of has a term of 5 to 25 years, so he'll get at least five years. in the american system, there is parole, so he will get a range and it will be on the lesser end, i assume, if he behaves while in prison. he has a whole other criminal case coming at him in california, so they'll have to transport him to california for those proceedings, keeping him in custody all the time. so it's not just rikers island or wherever they place him here, he'll be in custody in california now while he faces those charges coming up in the next few months as well. >> more legal troubles ahead for harvey weinstein. paul, jennifer, i appreciate it. we're going to continue our
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coverage. we're waiting for harvey weinstein handcuffed, taken into custody. we're expecting to hear from defense attorneys in just a short while. stay with us.
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we'll get back to our breaking news. the conviction of two counts for harvey weinstein, the media mogul. jean casarez outside the courtroom. jean, we're awaiting the prosecution and defense. what's next? >> reporter: harvey weinstein was remanded into custody. there were 5 to 13 law enforcement in the court. >> i'm sorry to interrupt you. prosecutor cyrus vance. >> it's rape even if there is no physical evidence and even if it
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happened a long time ago. this is the new landscape for survivors of sexual assault in america, i believe, and this is a new day. it's a new day because harvey weinstein has finally been held accountable for crimes he committed. the women who came forward courageously and at great risk made that happen. weinstein is a vicious serial sexual predator who used his power to threaten, rape, assault, trick, humiliate and silence his victims. he has been found guilty of criminal sexual acts in the first degree and will face on that count a state prison sentence of no less than five years and up to 25 years. to the jurors. i want to thank the jurors for their service. weinstein, with his manipulation, his resources, his
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attorneys, his publicists and his spies did everything he could to silence the survivors. but they refused to be silent. they spoke from their hearts and they were heard. they were heard by weinstein's other survivors and by sexual predators all over the world. they sacrificed their privacy and self-protection knowing better than anyone the extent of weinstein's power, manipulation, retribution and abuse. to them i would say you broke silence to hold him accountable. and believe me when i say that because you have done so, a generation of sexual assault survivors and all of us heard your every word. thank you. i'll take a couple questions. >> sir, are you fully satisfied with this verdict, that he came
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up short with some for only five years? >> this was a difficult case, and a challenging case, and something that really moved our understanding of what sexual assault is, a shattered myth in our system for a long time. i believe a conviction with a maximum of up to 25 years, it is not the top counts of the indictment, but by no means am i disappointed with the jury's unanimous statement that harvey weinstein is guilty of sexual assault and rape. any other questions? >> it appears the jury repudiated jessica mann's and
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others' testimony, do you think they will -- >> annabella sciorra was in huge pain when she testified. jurors find a way through to a solution that they believe adequately brings them all together with a unanimous verdict. in terms of the cross examination, i think we saw cross examination, the kinds that we've seen for years and years and years. i hope that with this verdict, it will become more obvious that those kinds of attacks on the survivors and victims when they're on the stand, making it seem like it's all their fault, will be realized as legal attacks that just simply are no longer going to work in this day
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and age, and it's time that lawyers stop using them and continuing the myths that i think the jury verdict brought us today. [ inaudible ] >> first of all, i would say that -- it's dedean, right? i hope that survivors will see this and prosecutors, judges and juries will believe them, even when the facts are not simple and even when the dynamics of the relationships between the survivors and the abuser are conflicted. so i think, dean, the message is this is a big day, this is a new day, and i hope we remember the significance of the jury verdicts today.
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in terms of the time it takes to report a sexual assault, we cannot put ourselves in the shoes of a victim of sexual assault to understand what is going through his or her mind. you heard on the witness stand the reasons why a number of these women survivors did not come forward. they were deathly afraid of harvey weinstein, for one thing, and that he would ruin their career. so there's all sorts of dynamics that make survivors of sexual assault not comfortable to come forward. however, those stories are now part of what we all now understand better after this trial that survivors have to go through. so, dean, my hope is with this verdict, survivors of sexual assault, whether it's a mr. weinstein or whether it's someone else will come forward and our office and others like our office will, i hope, be there to listen to them and to
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help them move forward. >> thank you, guys! >> thank you so much, everybody. have a good day. >> cyrus vance jr. there, the manhattan district attorney saying he is satisfied and praising the jury, praising the witnesses against harvey weinstein convicted of two counts, acquitted of three counts in a felony sexual assault trial. let's get back to our legal analysts paul callan and jennifer rodgers. paul, on the one hand he lost thr two out of five. on the other hand, he is on his way to prison in handcuffs to face charges of sexual assault. is that true or is this a big high-powered conviction? >> cyrus vance is breathing a huge sigh of relief today. he's taken a lot of heat over the past couple years with what has happened with the harvey weinstein case and not charging him a while back. so these charges and the
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conviction on these charges are a real vindication for him. i think what he's saying is it's just a very challenging case when you talk about the relationship between harvey weinstein and his victims, even going, in many cases, to after the incidents themselves. so that makes it a tough case for a prosecutor and really impressive for cy vance's team to pull it out. i think that's why he's so pleased today. >> and, paul, he called mr. weinstein a vicious serial sexual predator, celebrating the fact he is now behind bars. he also talked a bit about the cross examination, saying that he hopes defense attorneys will now learn a lesson, that we are in this new age, as he put it, where you shouldn't attack the victims, you shouldn't attack the survivors. i hate to ask the question this way, but is that wishful thinking? >> no, i think cyrus vance makes a very legitimate point. the manhattan d.a.'s office did a highly professional job in this case. attorney lizzy did a great job.
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she was up against a defense team that did some very, very probing cross examination of the victims in this case, but nonetheless, the jury believed that one of them had been forcibly subjected to oral sex and be the other had been raped. now, that's a huge victory on this fact pattern, and i think as cyrus vance said, it sends a message to a lot of women who, in the past, have said, who would believe me if i tried to testify against somebody with his money and his power? and that's one of the reasons that women don't come forward in these kinds of cases. the manhattan district attorney's office has now demonstrated that properly prepared, a case like this can be explained to a jury in such a way that the jury fully understands where the force came in and where the improper criminal conduct occurred even by someone as famous and as rich azhs harvey weinstein.
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>> paul callan and jennifer rodgers, appreciate the insight. harvey weinstein convicted of two sexual assault charges, he is handcuffed and remanded into custody, facing a minimum of five years in prison. we heard from the prosecution. we'll hear from harvey weinstein. stay with us.
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ago saying harvey weinstein should face a minimum of five and up to 25 years in prison when that sentencing takes place. the sentencing is on march 11. we heard from the prosecution, we're waiting to hear from the defense team. we'll also hear from some of the groups who stood up for harvey weinstein, who pushed back on the charges against him. chloe, as you gather reporting on this, among the groups you spoke to, the time's up organization. >> right. just moments ago we heard from time's up president tina chad, and she said this trial and the jury's decision today marks a new era of justice, not just for the silence breakers who spoke out at great personal risk, but for all survivors of harassment, abuse and assault at work. i also told you, john, that we heard from some of those silence breakers just moments ago, and there is a sense of relief for so many of these people who were worried on friday. you know, we heard from time's up that they were, quote,
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nervous that he would be found not guilty. and remember, i told you, i spoke to harvey weinstein, i interviewed him just days before this criminal trial began, and he truly has always maintained his innocence and believed he would be found not guilty and make movies again. clearly that does not seem to be the case any time soon, and we do know he has been remanded into custody without the walker that we have seen him walking in the courtroom with day after day. i can tell you also just from being in there hearing jessica mann's testimony, so incredibly emotional, and so many of those silence breakers are taking to social media and tweeting, john, and releasing their own statements. there will be a conference call today for the press. people like ashley judd and rose mcgowen who will be speaking out and we'll hear more about that in the coming days. >> chloe melas, appreciate the breaking news out of los angeles for us. let's get brian stelter back
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into the conversation. brian, these women stepped forward. they had the backing of these organizations stepping forward. they created this public outcry, now they have this public conviction. >> it's hard to think back to the moment before the harvey weinstein stories were published in 2017, before metoo was a household name. it was a very different world, a very different climate for women to speak forward and tell about these experiences, to tell about what weinstein was doing behind closed doors. it took months of work by reporters in the "new york times" and "the new yorker" to give these women confidence that they would be protected and believed. there is strength in truth and there is strength in numbers. and why mia farrow was able to get so many to speak, first there was one and then another. roger els took down the head of
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fox news, and that leads reporters to bill o'reilly. and when bill o'reilly was removed from his job, that's when they started looking at harvey weinstein. these are men thought to be too powerful. they were able to keep secrets for a very long time but not forever. the six women who testified in court, we're talking about what they did and the courage it took to do that in court, miriam haley, jessica mann, and the other women who took the stand at the trial. all six speaking about his behavior, all six showing they are not just victims, they are survivors. and they were able to, in this moment, believe that justice has been done. >> one of those untouch abableso back up your point, now in prison. let's go back to jean casarez
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who is doing a great job on this story from the get-go. jean, we heard from the prosecutor, we're waiting to hear from the defense. the bottom line, harvey weinstein convicted in two of five counts and now behind bars. >> reporter: that's true, but the defense can say they saved him from those life felonies, because those were the counts that were the most serious of all. you know, as i watched the entire trial and i watched every single direct examination and cross examination, the defense was very good. they were very, very strong. they did not, in the opinion of those in the courtroom that i spoke with, did not victim shame the accusers. the cross examinations were very intellectual, they were strong at points, they pulled back and were softer at other points. but a distinct difference with some of the other cases that i have covered. you know, i was the correspondent for bill cosby, and i saw a distinct difference from this cross examination to accusers than in the bill cosby
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case. another distinction i'm seeing, when i did the bill cosby case and covered it for cnn, there were accusers in the courtroom every day. they were en masse. they had come from around the country to be in that courtroom to watch the criminal trial of bill cosby. not so in this criminal trial. in the courtroom it was really made up with media from all over the world. i mean, i sat next to people from england, from japan, from other areas all over the world, and then there was the public gallery which allowed for two to three rows of the public, and they were just people that wanted to see this trial, because this is -- i always think about legal history, and this is a historic trial when it comes to legal history in the future of this country. >> jean casarez, a very important point there about the history. it's a new day, as the prosecutor called it. jean is outside the courthouse. she will stay there. we're going to take a quick break. we just heard from the prosecutor who called this a new day when it comes to criminal sexual assault and the treatment
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the dramatic breaking legal news, it is one-time hollywood mogul harvey weinstein convicted of two out of five sexual assault charges.
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we are waiting to hear from the weinstein defense team who says they will quickly appeal. let's bring back our legal analysts paul callan and jennifer rodgers. on march 11, we know an appeal will be filed. tell us how the process works. >> a notice of appeal will be filed immediately by the defense team, and there will be two areas where they'll say he didn't get a fair trial and the conviction should be reversed. first of all, tlfhere was a jur allowed to sit on the case over the objection of the defense who was allegedly writing a book involving cases of older men and women and consent issues. the defense is going to say she was inappropriate for the jury and resulted in an unfair verdict. the second thing that happened in this trial that's different from most other trials is you heard a total of four other women, in addition to mann and haley about sexual conduct,
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improper sexual conduct by weinstein. they're called malano witnesses. that's unusual. usually you can't get those prior bad acts into evidence unless the defendant takes the stand. so the defense is going to say this is unfair, it prejudiced the jury against weinstein, and he should get a new trial. those are the arguments that will be presented on appeal. we'll have to see how an appellate court reacts. >> and jen, while we wait for that to play out, harvey weinstein remanded, meaning in custody until then. we don't have a timetable yet, but there is a pending case in los angeles as well, l.a. accusers charging weinstein last month with raping one woman and sexually sexual assaulting another women. th awaiting this pending trial in los angeles.
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paul just laid out the complications of the trial in new york. are there lessons to be learned that you apply to the next case? >> i don't really see any major lessons. they did a pretty good job. they had their witnesses, they testified compellingly. in the end the jury didn't find him guilty of the most serious charges, but these are very tough facts. i mean, it's going to be more fact-specific, i would say, not so much kind of legal maneuvering by the prosecutors, but whether the evidence that the women give in los angeles rings true to the jurors out there, you know, these are very serious allegations, and when you just look at the pattern of behavior, you know, it really strikes you that harvey weinstein had an m.o. that he employed in these cases, and it plays out again in l.a. if they are prepared properly for their testimony, and if they are compelling in their testimony, then that's a very serious problem for harvey weinstein as he looks ahead to that case as well. >> and the testimony was overwhelming, paul, and it was damning and it was disgusting,
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frankly, and 100-plus women, they didn't all testify in the trial, but 100-plus women came forward to make charges against harvey weinstein. if you are the judge in this case and the penalty could range from 5 to 25 years in prison, what is the sense of the sentencing? >> i don't think it will be five years, i think it will be more like ten years he'll be facing because of the horrific nature of the acts he engaged in and has been convicted of. i would also mention, john, that the judge will also be aware that he's facing these serious criminal charges in california, which i understand will face -- he'll face another possible 28 years in prison, and by the way, all of these cases can be run consecutively. so there is clearly a scenario here where harvey weinstein could spend the rest of his life in prison based upon not only the new york case but the california case.
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>> and, jennifer, step back in a sense. when cyrus vance says it is a new day, what does that mean looking forward if there is a survivor out there now who wants to speak up? what does that mean? >> i think it means that they should speak up, that they don't need to be as afraid as they were in the past that they won't be believed or that they can't kind of tell their truth and take on powerful men. it's really good news for these survivors everywhere, and i hope they'll continue to speak up as they did in this case. >> jennifer and paul, i appreciate your help through the breaking news this hour. thanks for joining us throughout the breaking news. don't go anywhere. still waiting to hear from our defense team as well. brianna keilar continues this discussion after the break.
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