loved, two brothers reunited once again, two brothers together forever. the news continues. i want to hand it over to chris for "cuomo primetime." chris? >> anderson, beautifully handled. what an appropriate tribute. and you know what tonight by extension one of it lessons that we learned from back then of those heroes was what, at the time they were told you'll be fine, you do the work down there, it's going to be fine. the air quality's fine. and all these years later we're still learning about the battles fought and lost in those days in the immediate aftermath. the information matters. people like those first responders, they deserve to know what the realities are in the world around them, and here we are once again dealing with the fear of the unknown, but that was a beautiful way as a tribute to a hero. thank you, anderson. i am chris cuomo and welcome to primetime. and again, let's learn the lesson. let's start tracking down some big questions surrounding what we do and don't know about how the coronavirus is being handled

here or mishandled. when trump promises we've got it covered, that's good to hear. and it makes it disturbing to hear news of a whistle-blower warning that we don't have it covered, that there are failures to protect our own employees. now we have a question. is there a potential link to that whistle-blower claim and the first confirmed case in california? and another question in california. why are there more than 8,000 people in that state being monitored? why don't they know whether or not they have this virus or not? why are so many others across this country not being tested? the virus is not that scary. it's the unknown. so what do you say? let's get after it. >> let's bring in dr. sanjay gupta. the unknown spreads panic faster

than any virus can. and we have questions about the president's plan to deal with this. cnn has not independently reviewed this whistle-blower complaint but here's the part interesting to me. so solano county, california, it's not 5,000 people but it's not 5 million. some of them are dispatched to health care workers to bases to deal with people that were repatriated from other parts of the world who might have the virus. now we hear about the first community based in california, a woman also in solano county. she has no connection to the work to the base. but isn't that what community contact is about? >> right. >> the workers. some of them are from solano county. is that a potential link here to look at? >> that is a potential link to look at. to your point, chris, we don't know. the reason this is so significant, as people may have

sort of realized by now, is that up until this point, up until this patient, this 15th patient, everyone, you could sort of account for as you made the point, chris. either because of travel or because of known contact with someone who is in infected. now someone is walking around, hasn't been to one of these areas, hasn't come into contact with anybody known to be infected, gets the infection. that basically means at some point the virus got out into the community. it means, most likely, that in addition to this 15th patient that patient got it from someone else, and that someone else may not have any symptoms or minimal symptoms, never gets tested. that's what it means now that this thing is in the community. that's a significant thing. but we don't know. it's close to the air force base. could it have been one of these workers? could it have been a family member of one of these workers? >> right. >> they're good at this part of things, chris, from a contact

tracing standpoint. you go back. you look at this person's life and you try and piece together their life over several days to figure who were infected and in this they may be trying to figure who may have infected that person. it is a real medical who dunnit at this point. >> i start getting phone calls, just like you do, of people saying we can't test. they're not letting us test. and newsome comes out and says we're monitoring 8,400 people. no reason to monitor anybody. you test. you see if you have influenza a or coronavirus or not. that's not happening here. what do we know about why people aren't being tested in the richest country in the world? >> let me -- there is a couple of thoughts, and then i have done some digging today, chris, after we talked about it. let me give you a little bit of context because i think this is important. in south korea, they're doing

about 5,000 tests a day. okay? a day. in the several weeks that we have been testing in this country, probably done about a thousand tests total. so there is a huge disparity, i think, to your point. and surveillance is one of the primary pillars of public health. you got to know what you are dealing with in order to deal with it. so the testing becomes really important. now, to be fair, sometimes people who don't have symptoms, even if they are carrying the virus, are less likely to come back positive. why? because the symptoms -- you get symptoms as the viral load in your body increases. that's what makes you sick. >> right. >> but also makes it more likely for you to have a positive test. so you get false negative test if you are testing too often. that's true. but i think a case can be made that we were not testing enough, you know, there were people who are very concerned. they may not have been in china, but they may have been in other places like korea or italy,

places we know the virus has been spreading. they get sick. not only were they not getting tested, they were asking to get tested and they were told they couldn't get tested. so that is a problem that i think now people at the highest levels of our public health system are trying to address. >> what is a good reason that you say, sorry, i know that you're presenting in a way that it might be, and i know you want to be tested, but you can't. >> well, that's a good question. i will tell you that there were some problems with the tests initially, as you will remember, chris. the goal was we want to get these tests out to all poc locations, point of care locations. but they found some of these tests ended up being flawed. the control didn't work. they couldn't be confidence in the testing. i don't know which led which. was it because some of the testing were flawed? they sort of dialed it back and said, you know what, we don't need to test all these people after all.

or was it more, hey, look, we want to just make sure that we're not going to run into a situation of a lot of false negatives, you know, things that because people are healthy or not having much in the way of symptoms, they come back negative because they fault sense of comfort. i don't know. but i can tell you this,t that's not the way it's been done in many other countries around the world. >> right. >> most other countries around the world have erred on the side of more testing. we have erred on the side of less testing. that may change now in part because people are talking about it like us but also this 15th patient now evidence that this thing is in the community and we've got to start to broaden the approach here in terms of who we're looking at because we clearly -- that one would have been missed otherwise. >> right. >> who else is out there? how do we find those people? >> you are the doctor, but i keep talking to clinicians, and they say it doesn't make sense to not test because what's scarey is the unknown. the boogie man is how bad can it be? someone like newsom would rather say i have 8,400 confirmed cases

and say how many week how many are going back home and it starts to give you comfort that, okay, this is just like the flu. if you're old or immune compromised, maybe not. how are states trying to adapt to this? >> i heard a couple of interesting things. this wasn't a uniform decision. i don't think everybody was onboard for the criteria of who should get tested in the first place. the criteria was pretty stringent. to be a person of interest you had to have traveled to one of these places, you had to have had contact with a known infection. in other countries, it let more discretion to the health care provider saying, okay, this person has a pneumonia or some sort of problem. there is no clear-cut reason. we're going to test for coronavirus because we think that coronavirus is circulating. up until today, frankly, that sort of discretion wasn't given to doctors. i don't think everyone was onboard with that.

i heard from very high levels that even early on there was a push to sort of broaden out the testing. who was pushing in which direction and who was pushing the other direction, i don't exactly know who and why they were doing that. but it wasn't a uniform sort of approach to this. the second thing i think, you know, again these flawed tests, i think, were a real problem. you know? and on one hand the united states developed a test at the cdc very quickly. and that was a great thing because that test was important to identify these patients coming out of china. but after that, after trying to distribute these to clinics around the country, i think things fell apart a little bit over there and that really hurt some of our initial surveillance. >> it led to ron klain saying anybody who knows how many cases they have is not telling the truth because they're not testing enough to know. and what happens is now the states are starting to push back and say, we can test.

these are sophisticated states, california, new york. many states across the country have the capability to do this. they're being told no. that's the next piece of the puzzle. thank you for burning calories today, making phone calls. it's the fear of the unknown that will create panic that we do not need. appreciate it, brother. so california, 8,400 cases monitored. they have to meet these weird federal criteria for being able to test when they could do it themselves. why? so we check here in new york state, right? not 8,400 cases or anything, but they're getting reports of people who are getting the symptoms, they don't meet the criteria. so we get the commissioner from new york to come in, tell us what's happening here, what makes sense and what doesn't just in terms of understanding the problem. next. 5g will change business in america. t-mobile has the first and only,

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being told no. why? dr. howard zucker is the new york state health commissioner. he has the answers. thank you for joining us. so when we look at california, first confirmed case, case number 50 from the community. five days they wait to test. the governor comes out and says we're monitoring 8,000 plus cases. he should know what he has on his hand, as you know, the fear for the public is, what, what they don't know. why wait so long? why can't they test? >> i think part of it is there is a challenge that the federal government has these tests coming in to one place, which is the centers for disease control. we have in new york a lab, the wadsworth lab, that has looked at the protocols and based on the cdc protocols has developed a test that we are ready to move forward with as soon as the fda approves it. we'll start testing tomorrow. >> i'm sure the same is true in california. >> i suspect so. >> but you can't? >> no.

i need the fda approval. >> so the panic is in the unknown. >> that's the worried well. >> the worried well, very nicely said. you can test, but the federal government says no. why? >> well, right now, they feel that they want to run the test at the cdc, and it's a matter of getting this through and to be able to get our test approved as well as probably other state labs that are calibered like our lab. >> ordinarily that would be fine. you just be patient. this is not a time for patience because time is the enemy. you were talking earlier saying, they're also overwhelmed at the cdc. how can they be overwhelmed? >> this is why it's important to prepare for what could happen. you don't want to play catch-up on this. >> we are, it seems like. >> this is why in new york we have moved forward. the governor has put forward a $40 million appropriation to the budget to provide the ability to have diagnostic testing and supplies that are needed. and so we are working on that,

and we would like to get the approval from the federal government so that we could help those that are concerned and be able to take some of the burdens off of federal government not only for the state of new york but also for some of the neighboring states that may not have the same kind of lab. i would add one more thing, which is that they have changed the criteria recently. so it is -- today. they changed the criteria. so there will be more tests that will need to be done. so it would be better to have states like new york do the test. >> now, they're getting negative pushback. people like sanjay talking to people like me. it's getting out there this criteria was too constrained. it was basically you didn't come from this one area of china or you weren't in contact with someone who did, you can get tested. but it doesn't make sense anymore, right? >> well, it is an evolving process and you need to change

it accordingly. so we should be testing whoever, based on the clinical exam, clinical assessment needs to be tested, and i think that's the next step. >> now, my suspicious is that -- i want you to give me a good reason for policy for it to be this way because the suspicious to me is this is a great way to keep the numbers down is that you don't get to test. i'll do all the testing, and i will control what the number throw is and that's all we'll know. it may be slow in getting out, but at least there aren't numbers popping up all over the place. >> when it comes to public health, all those kind of issues should be put aside because we're dealing with the public safety, the public's health. whatever needs to be done to move this forward, to make sure people are getting the tests that they need should be done. and that should eclipse any concerns that we have. >> do you have any concern that your test is not as good as their test. >> i think our test is better. >> i'm sure california feel it is same way. to be clear, this isn't a sophisticated thing to find, right? you can test for this the way you do with influenza and figure out what it is. >> once we have the protocol and our team came up with the test, we were able to move forward.

and the center is phenomenal. that was actually the center. our lab came up with the acetate in the story. >> that's another story. we still have to figure out the dangers of vaping. let's end on the right note. i'm worried about the flow of information because i fear the unknown, and i think that that's what spreads panic, and we don't need that. more testing will give more confidence to the american people. who should also give confidence is this isn't the boogie man. if you get sick from this, you are not automatically going to die. we may have a falsely exaggerated sense of how lethal it is and there are plenty you can do to not get it. help us through that. >> i think we need to remove some of the anxiety everyone has about this. the way to do that is to prevent problems. and the way to prevent a problem is use good public health practice. wash your hands, sneeze into your sleeve. >> sounds basic, but it really

works well. >> it does. stay home. and they are boring concepts, but they work. the second is to prepare for a problem. and that's what we're doing. we are preparing. dust off those plans. look at the strategies. and then to partner, to partner with hospitals, with nursing homes, with schools and to be ready for a problem. i think together, if we do all of that together and we work as a community, we actually could overcome any virus that nature sends our way, and i think we will be successful. >> how long until you're able to start testing people? >> i wrote to the fda the other day, and i hope as soon as possible. and i hope by the beginning of next week. >> because every day there are more and more people coming in. >> right. it is an evolving process. it is important to keep this in perspective. a lot of people are getting nervous about this. i understand. if you don't know something, you would get nervous. you have to remember that even though everyone speaks about sars, but sars is in the same family. they are coronaviruses. but two people in the family,

one kid has blue eyes, one child has brown eyes. same family, but they may be a little bit different. we need to keep this different. >> in my family, the one with brown eyes is far inferior to the one with blue eyes. thank you very much. let us know how the information process goes so we can make sure people have no reason to panic. >> we will do that. all right, the president's self-proclaimed best economy ever is having a very bad week. why? well, coronavirus fears is a big part of this, right and the president takes credit for the gains. now he's blaming anything that goes wrong on everybody else. we have a very valuable guest next with some perspective on our economy, a celebrated former labor secretary. we'll be right back. ♪ (sensei) beautiful. but support the leg! when i started cobra kai, the lack of control over my business made me a little intense. but now i practice a different philosophy. quickbooks helps me get paid, manage cash flow, and run payroll. and now i'm back on top...

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trump wants you to think the democrats are crashing the markets to hurt him.

that is b.s. and he knows it. this is about traders and whether they have confidence in his planning. names you know like nike, coke, gm and apple are pulling back on their operations, putting out reports they're not going to make as much money because of the expected impact to supply chains. this is not just about what may or may not happen in this country. look where it's happening around the world. all right, the second largest economy is potentially shutoff. that sends fear to traders in the markets. you have southeast asia, the middle east, europe. let's bring in someone who knows the macro economic, the world implications on the economy. he was the labor secretary under vehicle tear clinton. now, let's deal with what we know this isn't about. we're looking at your book here, the system. who rigged it, how we fix it by you. thank you very much for joining

us. now, first the president said you know, the traders they don't like seeing the democrats on stage bashing the economy and coronavirus. the markets crashed hours before the debate. this is not about a political hit. what is it about? >> well, it shouldn't be thought of as a political issue. this is not a partisan issue. this is about supply and demand and fear of the future. some fears are perfectly rational. right here there is no reason to panic. the stock market, for example, is not the economy. the stock market is a bunch of people investing based on hopes and fears and sometimes those hopes and fears are exaggerated. sometimes it is a road runner cartoon. but sometimes it is quite different. we can't assume that the entire economy of the united states is also bottoming out. the other thing to keep in mind

is that consumer confidence, that is how average people feel about the future in terms of their jobs, their wages, their benefits, what they are going to be doing, that plays a huge role in the economy because consumer purchasing is about almost 70% of the total economy in the united states. and if people get worried about the future and they pull in their horns and they stop spending, that could be a self-fulfilling prophesy. >> right now at the bottom of the screen it says coronavirus drive dow to worst point drop ever. it's never been this high before. and as you well know and the audience should understand, the people who make their money on wall street have been saying there is going to be a correction for some time. it is just about when. it is as likely as anything that this gave them a reason to sell off. isn't that part of the mix? >> yeah. that is definitely part of it. the worst case scenario is because of supply chain disruptions and because

consumers really are worried and they're worried to the extent not just to pulling in their horns and worried about their future paychecks but they're also worried about contagion. they stop going to movies, stop going to dinner, cancel travel plans. there could be down the road if this continues at the rate biit been, there could be a lot of economic problems that are created simply because of the behavioral changes that come about because of this fear. now, i'm not going to be predicting anything, but i think it's realistic to say this could be -- it could be the biggest threat to the global economy since the great recession, since the great crash of 2008. >> why? >> i hope it's not. i hope it's not but given that china, the second biggest economy in the world, shows signs of contracting or actually closing down. given that europe is facing a

great deal of risk -- well, you have europe with 300 million people, our second largest trading partner. europe is infected, to some extent. it's not massive but it is moving in a disturbing direction. china is obviously a huge problem, and china is where not only we have supply chains, a lot of the supplies and products that find their way into american products actually start our are assembled in china. south korea is facing a big problem. south korea is a major, major economy in the world right now. >> everything you're saying has been borne out by what we've been seeing. apple then came out today and said, looks like china is getting this under control, maybe thir trying to fuel optimism. maybe that's just their experience. we just got a report here the

u.s. has its first coronavirus related drug shortage. someone alerted the fda because of coronavirus our supply complain is disrupted, bexar going to run short on a drug important in to u.s. market. these are the kinds of things traders find out about, wall street types find out about and it affects their enthusiasm for different stocks. that's what this is about. it's not a political hit job. >> it's absolutely not a political hit job. nothing i've said suggests a political hit job. this is kind of reasonable worries. this is not panic. there's a difference between reasonable worry and panic. and again you can't tell the future of the economy. the stock market is one indicator. now, the federal reserve is likely to try to reduce interest rates or will reduce short-term interest rates in an effort to stimulate if in fact consumers get very nervous and stop spending as much and the economy

starts sinking -- worrying about the contagion issue and they stop going to places and the entire tourism industry, the travel industry, restaurants, hotels, everything else starts basically being affected by this. the fed has nothing to do with that. but that's -- there's no reason to worry about that. the other factor, chris, is exports. we do depend on export markets. if those export markets start drying up because of fears or because a lot of people just simply don't any longer have the wherewithal to buy products from the united states that's also going to affect our american economy. we are part of the world. you can't take the american economy out of the rest of the world even though donald trump occasionally sounds like he wants to. >> well, look, coronavirus is reminder we are all in this together. and what happens in one part of the world is going to have

reverberations everywhere else. we'll come back to you and understand what's going to happen and why it's happening in that moment. good luck to you, sir. look, this is political test moment make no mistake about that. in fact, in most election cycles you have something come out. they used to call them october and november surprises and you'd have to deal with it. bush with katrina. obama with ebola. will trump pass this test? is it that test? this is the time you go to the men and women with the bigger minds, and we are lucky to have one tonight. tom freedman is going to help us understand what this situation means, and he has a very unique arguably controversial take on what the democrats should do to win in 2020. he joins us next. your mission:

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you notice i didn't have any of the officials that are handling this situation for our government on tonight. that's not a coincidence. in fact, sources tell cnn that government health officials now have to clear any public statements on coronavirus with vice president pence's office first.

the move comes of course in the face of criticism about how the administration has handled its response to the outbreak and in no small part putting pence anywhere near something having to do with science. is it warranted? let's put to tom freedman who is an expert in global affairs. he's also the author of "thank you for being late." good to see you, sir. do you see this situation as one of the test moments that can define an election? >> there is no question, chris. this is a global crisis that we still haven't come to see the full magnitude of it. and it could be unlike any crisis, really, in our lifetime outside of a world war in that the entire world gets seized up because of the spread of this virus. and there is only one way it can be managed in my view, chris. one is with american leadership. you know, i always felt that president obama's greatest foreign policy success was the

way he led the curbing of the ebola virus. the reason he got so little credit for it is because it worked. what you see in those moments, chris, is that we are the indispensable nation. there is no one other than america that can pull together a kind of global response. it is unfortunate this nation is hobbled by violating truth and trust so many times and abusing our allies so many times, but i don't think -- it's not too late to start, and i think it's the time for america to really step forward because there is no alternative when you face a kind of global pandemic like this. there is no alternative to american leadership. >> in a moment like this you would think those who want power would seize on it and speak with one voice and make this a function of their campaign. but on the democrat side of the ball, they are all over the place, tom. you have arguably the party

under siege from two opposite polls. you have bernie sanders who many would say isn't even a democrat in his politics. he is surging. he is taking over that party. not unlike what we saw in 2016 with president trump. and then on the other side, you have someone who is also not a democrat in bloomberg, who is spending his way into contention. how do you see their fate at this point? >> well, you know, i -- i have been a supporter of mayor bloomberg. i have not been a supporter of bernie sanders. but what i'm a supporter of, chris, more is a unified front to take on donald trump because i believe this is a four alarm fire. i believe that what the country really wants -- now, if there is an overriding trend in the country, chris, let's take the extremes out. i think the overriding mood in the country is they want someone to pull us together. because we have big hard work to do and now in the face of this coronavirus, we have really big hard work to do and big hard things can only be done together. and that's why i wrote a column

calling for basically a democrat-led government of national unity. i don't know who is going to emerge on the democratic side, but whoever it is, i hope they will appoint a team of rivals that will represent all wings of the democratic party and moderate republicans and independents. i'd love to see mitt romney in this cabinet. i would love to see an authentic outspoken military hero like admiral mcraven who led our forces and took down bin laden in this government. we need a national unity government. people are not searching for medicare for all right now. they are searching for all for one and one for all. and i think the democrat who can emerge with that message is the one that i hope will win. but i know that democrat would be effective, would be able to govern effectively and not just win. >> well, look, i love the ideas. one of the reasons i begged tom to come on tonight is i love the idea of testing this notion of a team of rivals, of running an entire slate.

not least of all because i suggested it a couple of months ago and nobody cared. but when tom freedman says it they care. first we have to look at why it's not going to happen. tom, the premise could be completely off. the country is not looking for unity. in fact, it is looking for it to be recognized as a function of divisions. that is the reason the president has been successful, is that those who are angry and saying i don't want to listen, my country is being stolen. i'm being left behind. this country has old values that have been forgotten, they're angry. they believe he hears them. bernie sanders has a formidable base, bigger than anybody else in the democratic party that i have seen where they say the same thing. not anymore. we've got a guy mad as hell for us now. who's asking for unity? >> let's remember the guy of president trump who ran that message actually lost the popular vote. so if we're talking about numbers, let's start there. secondly bernie sanders probably

has 30% of the democratic aisle -- >> maybe more. he may walk in convention time with 40 plus. >> he might. that's still not a majority of the democratic party. >> we can pick it up after the break but bloomberg and bernie they may both start with a "b" but they are complete inathema. you can have ideological differences in a party, happens all the time especially with the democrats and more so republicans. but never like this. you've never had a democratic socialist with the ultimate capitalist saying we'll find a way to bring it all together. is that even possible? >> to that i say welcome to four mere years of trump who will control the house, the sen sqat and the white house. that to me is a pull the emergency lever. >> if bernie sanders is good

enough to win for president why is it such a disaster for every other race in play? >> i don't understand that. >> if he's good enough to win for president and democrats argue yes, but he could still not make us win in the senate, why? >> i think bernie sanders believes things a lot of americans do not believe. one is this notion of democratic socialism, another is a $50 trillion spending program and those are things a lot of americans simply do not accept. even if he somehow could been the presidency, chris, how is he possibly going to govern? okay, when the majority of democrats aren't with you let alone the opposition? >> so here's the good news. i know that it can be sometimes frustrating to hear problems articulated even when it's done so as eloquently as tom does. here's why i needed him to tonight. he wrote a piece about what he sees as a fix that is something we have never seen before, but the democratic situation right now may call for it more than

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go with the way not the -- whoever becomes the democratic nominee needs to build a unity ticket made up of progressives and moderate democrats. here's the key quote, neither can defeat the other, neither with win without the other, if they don't join together if the democrats opt for a circular firing squad you can kiss the america you grew up in good-bye. tom freedman, thank you for staying with us. the question becomes who is at the top of the ticket. >> chris, we're going to find out i think in the next obviously two weeks probably. we'll see if south carolina, if so biden wins there. if that propels him, reenergizes

him. we'll see if mike bloomberg's strategy investing in all the super tuesday states and not running in it primary propels he probably won't have enough to win on the first vote. there will probably have to be a follow-up. and i do believe we're going to see the most unushlt democratic convention in a long time. >> that's the idea that the superfriends night happen. if somebody comes together. i think it's hard to depict with bernie. i have to be honest with you. the idea of having people around him that don't agree with going for it, with medicare for all and everything he wants to do with the tax structure. but you like all these people. and you're going to get him it in a way you never have before.

the concept is good. but who is superman? who is superwoman? >> we're in an evolving thing with the coronavirus. what if we're not? what if it's karina times ten. you'll see the public looking for a leader that are very, very important in this situation. one is experience in managing a crisis. and two, an ability to pull together coalition and bring trust across intraparty and outside of the party. those demands and requirements could really damage bernie sanders, who is not seen as someone who plays well with others in the senate. he has one of the worst records in the set. he is seen as an idealog.

bloomberg, klobuchar, buttigieg, they can be viewed differently. we could be looking at a very different candidate. what happens about the president when he has a crisis. he has violated the two-core principles of our democracy, truth and trust. now, we need him to look into the camera to reassure the country and the world. you have lied so many times into that camera. >> he has a weird opposite index, 50% of the economy, and think he's a liar. it's an odd mission. now, with iran, we have to believe him and we have to beli believe him. >> and donald trump has never, for one day, acted as president

of all the people. he's only been the president of his base. a day has not gone by. he's failed to build bridges and he's alienated a lot of our allies. we're going to need a different leader right now. i hope this goes away immediately. we are in the middle of something that is potentially very big. >> what is the potential chance of this happening. someone is in the top of the ticket. elizabeth warren, amy klobuchar, probably not biden, but all agree to take part in that person's government. >> i can't tell you how many people have stopped me in the last two days all over the place

and said, i had the same idea. a national unity government. and do you think there's a chance. people are starved for a leader that will pull us together. that's the secret underline with the country. i don't buy the extremes. we're like sunnis and shiites today. they are appalled by it and frightened by it and starved for many that will make the country one again. >> thank you for highlights a problem that is obvious and a solution that will make a lot of people think. appreciate it, my friend. why is the president moving off of the maga train?

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the trump campaign is going to open up 15 so-called black voices for trump community centers over the next few weeks. it's a few effort to reach black voters. and the campaign is trying to do it with a single word, woke. one, does he know what that means? and, two, laying claim to a word he really knows nothing about. they make fun of people were being woke. be on the lockout. "cnn tonight" with d. lemon, the man known for his wokeness, starts right now. >> that's super rad. that's so hot, chris. i mean, you're so cool.

that is so dope. i'm saying that because nobody says woke anymore. you know who says woke? >> now, they're going to have woke centers. >> people who say woke are not woke. woke is not a thing. that's how much they know about being woke. it's not a thing. people don't say woke anymore because they realize that the people who are woke, are so tired, they need to sleep. they need a nap. it's not a thing. >> are you saying that if you lure african-americans with hoodies, with trump on them, that won't work? >> can we put the video up of the sweatshirt again? >> sure, show them.