natural disasters. upgraded hospital preparedness to manage health crises. and he's funding cutting edge research to contain epidemics. tested. ready. mike: i'm mike bloomberg and i approve this message. can either coronavirus or bernie sanders be stopped? i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. an unpredictable presidential campaign became more so. a list of intangibles which included lack of impeachment.

a large democratic field, congested candidate lanes and the looming prospect of no one getting the needed delegates needed to secure before the convention now includes the spread of a deadly virus. we have 60 cases in the united states. including four of unknown origin. thankfully, for the president and the nation, absent during his tenure has been any national or international crisis. that's now changed. as coronavirus spreads, it places the president under a microscope while managing a crisis. and doing so without the benefit of a solid stock market to stabilize his support. the dow has just lost 11.5% in five days. and there are concerns about testing since only about 459 have been tested in this country, as compared to nearly 9,000 in the uk. plus, worries about messaging. today's "wall street journal," i think, accurately sums up the president's challenge and opportunity.

quote, voters aren't going to blame him for a slowing economy caused by the virus. they will blame him if the government response seems inept, or if he dismisses the problem and it turns out to be much worse than he has advertised. the best posture is to tell the truth that no one knows how much damage the virus will do while offering insurance that the government's infectious disease experts and enormous health public burae bureaucracy is up for the challenge. mean while, today is the south carolina primary. we're just three days from super tuesday. former vice president joe biden favored today in the palmetto state but then comes super tuesday where 34% of the democratic delegates will be selected. so, here's my question will super tuesday solidify bernie

sanders' front-runner status or place it more in doubt? go to my website right now at smerconish.com. i'll give you the results later this hour. are democratic leaders willing to risk party damage to stop bernie sanders. joining me now is democratic state jay jacobs, how do you view your role? what's your job as a super delegate? >> a super delegate is an automatic delegate. we have the same amount of vote hour as the other delegates, as the elected delegates. our responsibility, certainly in the second ballot, because we do not vote by virtue of a deal we made, we do not vote on the first ballot. we leave that to the choice of the majority of the elected delegates. so on the second ballot, if no one gets a majority, then it becomes our job, to decide, help decide on who will be the best candidate to win in november,

not just the presidency, but all the way down ballot. >> i had a professor as an undergraduate at lehigh university, dr. frank cologne, i remember him saying, remember this, political parties exist for one purpose, and that is to win. is that how you see your role, to decide who among this field, or someone else, can win the white house? >> well, i think the priority certainly is winning. i think political parties exist for our purposes as well, promoting values and principles and policies that the members believe in. but i think winning is exceedingly important. and i think there's been far too much talk so far about, you know, who's going to win, based upon what's actually occurred. if you take a look at it, we've had less than 2% of the delegates decided already. while bernie sits right now with 45% of the delegates that have been selected to date, that's only based on a vote, if you look at how many voters voted for him, the vote is 28.6% voted

for bernie. so there's no sure leader at this point, although it seems like in the media it's a ordained decision. >> well, i totally understand and respect that. we've talked about this for so long it's finally game-on. by tuesday, 38% of the delegates will have been selected and if it goes the way anticipated, it might not, then bernie will be the presumptive front-runner coming out, let's say, by wednesday morning. let's get to the plurality issue, he's saying something much different than four years ago, which is, if he has a plurality headed into milwaukee and no one has a majority, he thinks by rights he ought to get. what's your response? >> i ask you, michael, is it such a radical idea that the democratic party should stick to

the rules and is it such a radical idea that the person who wanted them this way is going to be kept to this word? i mean, bernie gave his word that this is going to be different -- actually, going to be a majority-rule decision, delegate, a candidate who.majority of delegates would be the one who should be the nominee. that's what we agreed on. and i think that's what he should stick to. i don't think that's so radical. and i don't think we're so wrong to demand that we stick to those rules. >> so the catch-22, perhaps, that the party will face, though, you don't want to piss off that businease that he brin the table. you need them to win. if you think he's faced with a plurality, how do you handle that conundrum. >> i think you have to look at two things. first of all, you don't want to piss off any part of the party. if bernie gets 51% of the

majority of the elected delegates you're going to have the other side not happy. the other end ever this, we're not going to be bullied by any faction of the party over, you know what we're to do, which is the right thing to do, which is to stick to a majority. and, frankly, i have to tell you, we've seen this before, we're always under threat of, you know, the discord in the party that's caused by primaries. we have to understand the bigger picture is this, we have to defeat donald trump. and any member of the party who thinks they're going to walk out of a convention and choose not to vote, well, they might as well put on a red maga hat and go all the way. the fact of the matter is, they're going to help elect donald trump. if that's the most important thing -- >> i get it. >> if it happens to be bernie, i'll be voting for bernie. >> dr. cologne would have said, because your job was to win. thank you, mr. jacobs. >> thanks for having me.

super delegate drama aside, if bernie sanders were to win the nomination could he actually beat donald trump? after all, that's what democratic voters say is the most important factor in choosing the nominee. david brockman is a director of political science at uc-berkeley. he just titled this, candidate ideology and vote choice in the 2020 u.s. presidential election where he collected 40,000 responses about voter preference. dr. brockman, let's make clear you and your co-author are democratic donors. i don't want somebody thinking that you come to the table with a republican bias, fair to say? >> yes, in recent elections, i think i gave $27 to bernie sanders. $2 to pete buttigieg, $5 to amy klobuchar. something like that. we have our personal biases.

we come at this as social scientists and just want to say what does the data say. >> okay. so the data generally says that the moderate stands a better chance in a general election. you point to the fact that in 2018, those house democratic candidates who were supportive of medicare for all fared more poorly than those who were not. you also acknowledge that bernie sanders superficially in the survey data runs very well against president trump as do the other democratic candidates. but upon closer inspection, you find what? >> yeah, so, thanks first of all for having me on. so, i think what's really interesting about this data, as you said, if you look at the top lines, it seems like bernie sanders is doing just as well as the leading moderates. but when you dig in, you find a couple interesting things. the first is, as you alluded, it seems like there are some republicans when they try to decide between trump and sanders, they say, i've got to

stick with trump. but when we ask about how they choose between trump and one of the moderates like buttigieg or bloomberg, we find they'd be willing to cross over to the democratic side. that's just consistent with decades of social science. some of those votes that they need to win, that they would normally get from the other side, they turn away. so, it seems like just that classic pattern that we found for decades seems to be true in this case as well. seems like there are republican swing voters that bernie sanders has a risk of turning away that otherwise might come in the democratic column. >> a pro-sanders prospective would say, whatever he loses in defection he's going to make up for with the youth vote. and i think this is really the crux of your argument. based on data, what do you find? >> yeah, so, when we dig into the numbers, this is the other thing that we find that's really interesting. so, why is it that if bernie sanders seems like he's turning away some swing voters that he's

still doing really well in the polls? and in our data, at least, what we find is that there's just a huge number of left-leaning young people who when we asked them about trump versus say, buttigieg or bloomberg, they say, we're going to stay home. when we asked them about trump versus sanders, they say, well, i'm going to turn out to vote for sanders. that kind of enthusiasm would be great. the challenge for sanders would be, the number of young people who say they're going to turn out is something like a 10% boost. that 10 percentage point boost if that adds to his number in november would be an asset. the first is that what people say until surveys about whether they will turn out to vote is just, we know, really inaccurate. it just doesn't correlate all that well with what they actually will do. second of all, when you think about a 10-point turnout boost, it's gargantuan. when our first black president

barack obama was on the ballot in 2012, black turnout, depending on the numbers went up by five points. an inspiring candidate for the african-american community. the kind of data that sanders would need is 10%. there's not evidence that young voters are going to turn out that at historic rate. >> let me undercorrespond this because this is the biggest takeaway and you tell me if i'm being too simplistic, brndz brn bernie sanders would need to be a better stimulant for the youth vote than barack obama was for the vote in 2008 and that's why it makes up for the election, yes or no? does that encapsulate it? >> i think that's a fair overall summary. these early polls are no crystal ball. it is true that the sanders campaign said part of out we're

going to win is inspiring turnout. i'm sure everyone would like to see higher voter turnout. the challenge for sanders is going to be social science just doesn't suggest by nominating a candidate further from the center you can inspire your base. there's just not much evidence that suggests that's the case. >> i encourage folks to read what you wrote for vox and to delve into the study itself. it's fascinate. thank you, dr. brockman. >> thanks for your time. a group of grassroots republicans in south carolina do not believe that bernie sanders can beat donald trump, in fact they actually plan to vote for him in today's primary because they're so confident he's the worst choice for democrats. it's being dubbed operation chaos. >> even after losing in iowa and new hampshire, joe biden is still the favorite in south carolina. >> we all know that the dnc and the democratic establishment do not want the independent senator from vermont as their nominee.

>> we're asking south carolina republicans to show their support for donald trump by crossing over and voting for bernie sanders. we feel this will help to move the needle. >> here's the logic, south carolina voters do not register by voter so they're allowed to vote in either contest. these grassroots republicans are against it and they're making a point and brought up sanders last night. >> by the way, the republicans will have to vote either way. am i allowed to request -- first, we have to figure out who would be the weakest candidate against president trump. are we allowed to tell them who we would like them to vote for? >> so, will the effort back fire, will it be successful? joining me now is presley stutz, he's the chair of the greenville tea party and one of the

organizers behind operation chaos. mr. stutz, you're doing today, or leading this effort to do today exactly what you think should be banned. is that fair? >> yes, michael, we're basically saying to the democrats who have already crossed over for many years here in south carolina what's good for the goose is good for the gander. and we're using this as a demonstration to say to our legislates, close our primaries. primaries are selection processes and these not an election. they're private party selection processes. and the democrats should not be telling the republicans what to do. nor should the republicans be telling the democrats what to do but because of this double standard that's been applied upon us for so many year, we have launched operation chaos 2020. >> how big is your effort, is there any way to know how many republicans in south carolina today will vote for bernie sanders? >> you know, it's hard to tell, we've had thousands and thousands of responses. you know, we think that 10, 20,

30,000 votes can swing, you know, the election by several points. joe biden is leading bernie sanders right now. our goal is to get bernie up there to make him very competitive with biden on the delegate count. >> maybe it's a case of be careful what you wish for. i was just addressing with my last guest, the strength that senator sanders has with the youth vote. maybe you'd actually be boosting the strongest opponent for donald trump? >> well, we believe that bernie is actually the worst candidate for the democrats because it would be a clear contrast between his communist, socialist ideologies, and the free enterprise and capitalism and the republican principles of president trump. so, we don't think the american people, even though the younger skulls full of lush might be leaning to brntsdernie sanders.

if you're not a conservative by the time you're 30, you don't have a brain. >> the so-called skulls full of mush for their candidate claim that their candidate would beat president trump in the general election? >> you know what, all of the surveys in 2016 had hillary clinton beating president trump hands down. it did not happen. i'm just a regular guy. i'm an activist here in greenville, south carolina. we talk to people every day. and the polls are never right. >> it will be interesting to see the results tonight from the palmetto state. mr. stutts, thanks for being here. >> thank you, michael. have a good day, bye-bye. >> what are your thoughts? tweet me @smerconish. what do we have? from facebook, trump winning in 2016 was supposed to be a mirage. bernie sanders could definitely win. brian, i've said this routinely on my radio program, the best

argument that bernie has, as these questions are raised about his nomination, they said the same thing about donald trump four years ago. and further, i think what bernie could say is, had there been su super delegates weighing in on the side of the republicans in 2016, by the way, republicans don't have the a super delegate process like the democrats do, but if there were one, there would likely will be mike marco rub rubio, or cruz. one more. n 2016, most polls had hillary clinton in the lead and look how that turned out. >> nicole, my response would be, i guess my response would be those pollsters were actually right because they ended up winning the popular vote by 3 million votes. and in the national surveys, they pretty much got it on the

button. where they blew it were in the swing states like my home state of pennsylvania, wisconsin and michigan. so point made. but it's just not that clear to say, oh, the pollsters they really, you know, screwed up in the last cycle. remember, i want to know what you think, go to my website @smerconish.com. answer this question, will super tuesday solidify bernie sanders' front-runner status or place it more in doubt? still to come, the k coronavirus is forcing shutdowns world wide, rattling the stock market. what should we be doing? is this overblown? plus, facebook end ed up playing a huge role in 2016, because her staff didn't believe it was important while president trump's team thought it was important. i'll talk to facebook, the inside story.

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as coronavirus continues to spread and encroach on the united states, how worried should we be? keep your eye on corporate america for an indication. major companies are reacting to the news by making big moves. my company sirius xm where i host a radio channel during the week center out a memo that bans international business travel immediately. anyone who has been to an infected area or within an infected area has to work from home for 14 days before returning to the workplace. and google has cancelled the upcoming global summit. amazon as deferred nonessential travel. think about the scenes from wuhan, china. the streets mostly empty.

commerce shut down, corporations getting nervous and we want to prevent that from becoming a reality here in the u.s. schools are preparing as well. miami-dade county plans to teach kids online. as of now, we have 67 confirmed cases of coronavirus. the cdc wants every state and local health department testing for the virus to the end of the week, and world health organization to the highest level. yet acting chief of staff mick mulvaney continues to downplay. joining me now is a pittsburgh-based infectious disease and critical care physician, a senior scholar at the john s hopkins and worked o hospital preparedness. doctor, speak to the preparedness and testing issue as you see it? >> right now, we've come to the conclusion that this virus is not going to be contained. so that means every country, every location really needs to prepare to be able to diagnose

and treat those cases. and the cornerstone of that is to be able to get the hospitals to deal with the surge of patients. and that includes diagnostic testing. that's been one of the hiccups. that we're woefully behind in being able to diagnose the cases. especially the mild cases and even the newest cdc criteria doesn't allow people to be tested unless they can symptoms of pneumonia, not the runny noses and sore throats. we need to understand how much community president is goisprea. and we don't want to surprise people that it seems to come from smorp. and it's going on right now. >> a california woman was diagnosed without any known link. and had to wait four days despite requesting a test. are the federal standards too strict? >> i do believe they're too strict. they've been modified in the last couple of days. now, there are more countries that you can come from.

if a civilian wants to test, you can actually get the test. we need these tests in emergency room departments, we need point of care. and we need to go through this freely without any bureaucracy. we need to have tests done by commercial lacbs, hospital labs we need to test this i can influenza. and we need to do that quickly. >> in washington state, a high school student has been diagnosed with no travel history. how does something like that happen? >> the only way that can happen, there are cases undetected in the community. like i said earlier, many of these cases are mild, indistinguishable from the flu or cold. and this virus had been spreading at least from november in china. that gives the virus a huge head start. while the cases seem mild, they might not have gotten noticed in the flu and cold season.

each time these things pop up, people panic, but for most people in the infectious disease are community, we knew these cases were out there and we were only really seeing the tip of the iceberg with the travel-related cases. >> sadly, it's become political. the white house says it deserves credit for having imposed travel restrictions from china weeks ago. are they deserving of credit in that regard? and if, if at all, are they falling short? >> the travel restrictions are very controversial because they were initiated after the virus had a head start and it's a respiratory virus with the spectrum of illness including mild illness. there is a question whether this diverted resources away from hospital preparedness and mitigation strategies. it may have slowed some of the importation of cases. but we believe there were cases here already that were mild. i don't give them too much credit for the travel ban. we know that travel bans in general don't work. we don't want to see any more of

that with this virus. we want to focus on mitigation. what we have done is focus on the public and have started to increase the readiness of hospitals to prepare for this. but it's going to be a long haul. we're just in the very early days of what is likely to be a pandemic. >> dr. adalja, thanks for expertise. here's more of what they're saying twitter and facebook. i think from twitter. smerconish and your commie viewers, stop rootin' for the virus. amelia, did you hearing anything that i said in that five-minute segment that said i'm rooting for the virus? i'm not playing any politics about the virus. i'm simply scared to death about my retirement given what happened in the stock market this week but i'm not putting a partisan finger on either part of the scale and i encourage everyone else to do likewise. up ahead, was facebook responsible for donald trump getting elected? the answer is partly yes.

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how did the trump campaign utilize 2016? and what can we learn vis-a-vis 2020? my next guest steven levy has more information than anyone, he literally wrote the book "facebook: the inside story" weighs in at 583 pages. for the past three years he's had unprecedented to mark zuckerberg, coo sheryl sandberg, some ex-pats who turned against the company. steven levy is a technology and

editor-at-large of wired. we spoke in philadelphia this week. steven, i want to tox to you about the 202016 and 2020 elections and facebook. conventional wisdom about 2016 was that the clinton campaign was much more sophisticated, much better organized than is this slash-dash trump campaign. that was not true with regard to facebook. >> absolutely, that's correct. as it turned out, the clinton people didn't think of facebook. they thought they were above that. and really never made the adjustment, even to where obama was in using facebook is more in nation state back when he ran. but the trump were on it arearl. brian pascal learned every trick to use. as a matter of fact, he took advantage of an offer that

facebook gave to both clinton and trump, to embed some of his people in there to use facebook. >> not because of any favoritism, which, by the way, facebook would be very sensitive to. >> right. >> but, rather, because the trump campaign was a big advertiser. and if you're a big advertiser, facebook gives e s you resource. >> right, whether you're procter & gamble or the trump people. and the trump people played it like a stradivarius. and facebook has this thing that they call look-alike audiences. they can compare people with different traits to audiences they knew would respond to their come-ons. every possible variation to try to tweak the emotions of people in different groups sometimes, they would do as much as 175,000 ads in a single day because different ads would go to

different people. they used artificial intelligence to craft the ads. they didn't have people in the boiler room saying this is ad number 100,000 to prove, but every variation. they would try to find that subjects would resonate with certain people. facebook allows you not only to micro target people, but to merge them with other databases to know precisely who they are. things like voter registration and other things. so they would know exactly who they're talking to and what the political aspects of these people's lives were. >> all of that was completely legitimate. there was some illegitimate uses of facebook during the 2016 campaign. one of them was wikileaks, the russians. and you pointed out that the russians used facebook just in the way that the facebook engineers had set it up to be used. >> that's right. facebook -- and this came from decisions they made around 2008,

2009 when mark zuckerberg was obsessed with twitter. and he wanted the facebook platform, the newsfeed to have more viral content. and the sensational content spread a little more. it turns out a lie served to be the truth. to the russians in particular but also other purveyors of fake news -- >> doing it for profit? >> right. they did it for profit. what happens is they would make up a story or take a blog that some right-winger post and make ads. >> here's my example from your book. denver guardian. totally bogus. >> turns out the address was a parking lot. >> is that true? >> yes. >> fbi agent suspected in hillary email leaks found dead in apparent murder suicide.

500,000 shares, bogus from macedonia. >> people in macedonia were driving around in mercedes because of fake news on facebook. and it turned out that they found strictly as a profit matter they earned more than with anti-hillary than anti-trump content. >> is resonated. one more, in the way facebook was sometimes manipulated for elicit purposes. cambridge analytica. >> it turns out facebook gave personal data and they could be quizzes. so if you took a quiz, you signed a little button that gives your personal information. but also the personal information of your friends. things like likes and political preference and relationship status. so each person that took a quiz,

people awho have 130 friends on facebook it doesn't take hundreds of thousands of people, millions of people. >> whoconsent. >> no consent whatsoever. that's why one researcher ended up getting 87 million profiles from facebook. which he then broke facebook's rules and licensed it to cambridge analytica company to the guy robert mercer. >> what should we look forward to with regards to 2020 election with regards to facebook? >> disinformation campaigns through cutouts rather than fake news. to purveyors overseas. they would plant their fake news not from their home base but find legitimate authentic accounts inside of the united states, and entice those people to purvey that information. >> great book, by the way.

written for folks at various levels of understanding. if you're a techno-oriented person, i am not, i think there will be a lot in there for you. someone at my level who relies on social media could understand exactly what the lessons were. and i think he was pretty fair in his approach. i recommend it. i want to remind you go to my website @smerconish.com. answer the survey question, will super tuesday solidify bernie sanders' front-runner status or place it more in doubt? still to come, the super bowl halftime show by j. lo and shakira brought down the house. it also motivated people to file complaints with the fcc. what's the one state where nobody complained?

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shakira, some tv pollers equaled it, quote, pole dancing in s & m outfits. for example, one viewer from spring hill, tennessee said i do not subscribe to the "playboy" channel we do not buy porn for $20 a flick. we wanted to sit down and watch the super bowl. the god forbid we wanted to watch football and a concert but instead had our eyes molested. 0.0011 of a percent on the platforms in compares, the janet jackson super bowl show featured the wardrobe millialfunction, t yielded 444,000 complaints. and a texas tv station, wfaa, the names were removed but the locations identified. they came from 49 states and

washington, d.c. which begs the question, which ones? we broke it down. at first, it looks like they mostly tracked relative to population size. one of the largest states, texas had the most with 139. there were zero complaints from one of the smallest, vermont. but i wanted to drill down on which states voted red or blue in 2016 and see the comparison. guess what, among the top-15 states registering the most complaints, three voted for clinton and 12 for president trump in 2016. to me, if you don't like the show, change the channel, restock the chips. one viewer from indiana offered a suggestion for super bowl lv. no pole dancing, no nudity. no indecent costumes. just good music. could be inspirational, uplifting or patriotic. still to come, your best and

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time to see how you responded to the survey question. the question was this -- will super tuesday solidify bernie sanders' front-runner status or place it more in doubt? survey says -- 74% will place it more in doubt. wow. with let's call it 11,000 votes

cast. i read into this that, you know, if joe biden wins tonight in south carolina, that gives him some kind of a head of steam that he otherwise didn't have going into super tuesday. the impediment is he can't quickly convert it to dollars and get on the air in time because we're three days out. but i presume that many of you think that if he does well tonight, he comes out with a head of steam and that reshuffles the deck for tuesday. we'll find out because it's game on right now. here's some of what else you thought this week. what do we have? smerconish, if i've learned anything from the 2016 election, it's that pundit predictions mean nothing. i remember yours. jenna, i wear it as a badge on my lapel. i was absolutely wrong. i didn't think -- how about if i give you the full version. i didn't think he'd run, much less win the nomination or win the election. i make no bones about it and there's a lot of company that i have.

but the point i think you're referring to is earlier in the program when i somewhat defended pollsters because the national polls that had hillary were right insofar as she won by 3 million. but did i blow it? absolutely. what else? didn't expect that, did you? a bernie nomination will push me to vote for trump. right. so richard, the research that i went over with dr. brockman earlier in the program says there are a lot of people like you out there. you know, who could be turned away from bernie, the democratic ticket that you'd like to support, and go for donald trump. now the bernie response is to say, yeah, but we've got this awesome youth vote that is going to come out in droves. and what that analysis really said is, it would take a more significant stimulant of the youth vote than there were of african-americans in '08 for obama. that seems like a stretch. one more if we've got time.

real quick. smerconish, you can't stop the virus with an executive order or tweet. can we just all be cool and be level-headed about this and not view it in partisan terms? let's hope that the scientists are on top of it and protecting us here and that we're not all looking to suit up as red state or blue staters. but instead just to empower the medical community to take care of business. join me for my american life in columns tour. tickets are still available. only one stop where seats are available, bellevue, seattle, washington. and i'll be a part of cnn's special live coverage of the south carolina primary which starts today at 4:00 p.m. thanks for watching. see you next week.

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welcome to saturday. good morning to you. it's february 29th. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. you're in the cnn newsroom. >> top stories this hour, first of all, we know there are now at least four coronavirus cases in the u.s. that are not travel related. these are new cases. >> also, voting happening right now in south carolina. the democratic primary, 54 delegates up for grabs. >> the u.s. has just signed an historic agreement with the taliban that could eventually lead to thousands of u.s. troops coming home. for the latest on the new coronavirus cases we're joined