flux right now. it is not good news, though, for nathaniel woods. >> we'll continue to follow that this evening. thank you very much. i want to hand it over to chris cuomo for cuomo prime time. >> welcome to prime time. it is an important night. the threat to us is not coronavirus. it is how we handle it. the latest, the vp says there aren't enough tests. it's unacceptable. the president said he had it under control. he doesn't. and apparently there is no cure for this president's viral lack of veracity. but we have something for you tonight. a doctor that believes there could be a quicker way to identify the virus that you don't have to do it through the test kits. he brought the x-ray to show us what he discovered. what do you say? let's get after it. all right. listen, you got to give the vice president this much. he's applying a rare antiseptic to this administration.

he's telling the truth. >> we don't have enough tests today to meet what we anticipate will be the demand going forward. >> not enough testing ki ining meet the demand in the richest country with weeks to preparement no wonder we only know 227 cases. and the president, what does he say? if it all just go away. if it doesn't, it's obama's fault. we know the kits are available. so much so they air drops some to this cruise ship. you have to know what you are dealing with so you can give them the treatment so we can see how many get better and who need more help. good news. we have someone who thinks they know another way to diagnose the virus without the testing kits. this is about medicine. it is not some mumbo jumbo. the doctor has been studying the

spread with a team of doctors at mount sinai hospital here in new york. you'll see this place is no joke, google it. he is a cardiothoracic radiologist. for the lay people, cardio heart, thoracic the upper part of the rulungs. this is your specialty. >> i have dedicated my professional life to looking at scans of the heart and lungs. i look at 25,000 cases a year. i have been fortunate enough to be on a team at mount sinai where we have a unique partnership with members in china. >> now, before you tell me what you are about to tell me, what is your level -- obviously on national television you are putting your name and reputation out there. what is your level of confidence in what you think that you and the team have discovered? >> we're confident about our findings. in medicine we have a standard threshold of peer review

acceptance. >> this is not a guess? >> this is not a guess. >> it is not something you have seen once and maybe it could be repeated on other scans. >> we systemically tabulated hundreds of scans from four different hospitals in china and four different provinces. we feel confidence that our data does add some value as a complimentary tool for diagnosis. >> cat scans. >> yes. >> what do you think you can see? >> i just want to make you on a brief introductory tours of the chest. it gives you a great look at the anatomy of the chest. this is a patient from china, a 44-year-old male with fever and cough and shortness of breath. this is their lung, which i'll show you here, this lung is normal. and normal lung is black on the ct scan. it contains air, which is black on the ct scan. when the lung becomes diseases with a pneumonia, all of a

sudden that normal black lung contains other things like cells, pus, debris and fluid ant it starts to become gray and white. that's the abnormally here we're seeing in this patient. >> this is similar. can i circle these. >> please do. >> this is what you are talking about. you are looking at this. you are looking at this. and the other ones they see here. what does this tell you? that it is just pneumonia? >> i have to tell you, it is really fascinating. when we first started looking at these cases, we didn't know what to expect. we thought the pattern would look like other cases we see. you might notice the shape is very round. >> yes. >> and they're arranged around the edge of the lung. >> let's give it to them where they can look at them. let's go to pneumonia. >> sure. this is the same image. these really blotchy gray and white spots arranged around the outer part of the lung, that's not a typical pattern. >> round is not.

what is this? >> this is in contrast. this is a patient from mount sinai who does not have coronavirus. you see just one focal spot that's very, very white. and this is a patient with a more typical strep pneumonia pat person. >> how many scans, by the way? >> we looked at hundreds, close to 500 scans. >> so this is not two or three? >> this is not. >> how many doctors on the team? >> we have two fellowship trained and a supporting team of researchers in our group. >> the reason i'm asking those questions because for me and the people watching, i don't know if you are right. >> sure. >> but the level of vetting, how other doctors take what you say, now, have you gotten pushback? do you have people that are saying, no, no, no, you are way early on this? you are way wrong? the peer reviewed study, how many of them say, no, you don't have it right? >> to the trained eye of a radiologist, we have a very systematic way of looking at the

scans and looks at the lungs. when data is published, it is educating our entire field. i don't think there's been any push back at all. one of our goals is to educate our colleagues around the country so they will be able to recognize the -- >> so you think you can get a ct scan of my chest and tell me whether or not i have it. >> after looking at hundreds of cases, the pattern has become so characteristic that there are many cases where i could tell you with a lot of confidence that this is coronavirus or not. >> now, the important question is this. it's okay if you think i have coronavirus and i don't because it's not like you have a treatment protocol anyway. the only problem would be if you think i don't have coronavirus, and i do. how big a risk is that? >> that is a risk. one of the things we found within the first two days of symptom offset, half the ct scans were normal. it is valuable to know that because we know early in the time course of the illness, ct scan does not rule out disease. that's important for decision-making in terms of

taking patients off isolation. >> that's the same thing with the tests reheard. >> correct. >> so this is no more variable than that? or is it comparable? >> this is a powerful tool that's complimentary. i think the test is of tremendous value. but you're right, there are also false negatives there and false positives. >> here is the urgency for me. we don't have enough tests. it's not worth it because that's where you are. >> right. >> is this something that you have tried to alert to authorities to incorporate into the let people do these tests on people. we'll be catching more cases? >> ct scan is part of the diagnostic alga rhythm for the work-up of suspected places, specifically for anybody that has moderate to severe respiratory systems. a lot of cases that we think we might pick up are patients that

the index of suspicion is very low. >> that's good. >> yes. >> obviously. but it's all bad, right. we don't want to have this thing spreading. but they say there aren't enough tests. i have you here because you say, we don't need the tests. we'd rather have the tests. but the idea that we do nothing unless we have a test, you say that that's too conservative. there is more that can be done. >> i think we can learn a lot of information off the ct scan. >> is this regular pneumonia or the bad stuff? >> this is a patient in their mid-40s from china who had an initial ct scan that was completely normal. >> this is normal? >> yes. you are catching the diaphragm and the liver here and part of the spleen here. this is the bottom of the lungs here. they're normal. they contain black. entirely normal, negative scan. the same patient was imaged three days later. we see the rounded gray spots on the edge of the lung. this is the typical hallmark

feature of coronavirus. it is a nice way for us to look and say, wow, this is theifesta disease. a radiologist that's reading anywhere in the country can recognize that and alert the team this might be a positive case. this is very atypical for other pneumonias. >> that's the important part. if you saw this, what percentage confidence would you have that this is not normal pneumonia? this person we should quarantine? >> i'm completely confident this is not apneumonia. >> this is not good. what does it mean? >> in the right patient who has traveled to or lives in an area where there is disease and they have symptoms, this is highly suspicious and this patient should be in isolation. >> the cdc is aware of it. they are versed in medical literature. this is a fluid situation that's

developing. >> have you called them and said, you should be letting people do this? >> we have been in touch with the cdc about developing their protocols and alga rhythms. there are a lot of factors that go into these decisions. it is not that easy to screen large numbers of patients efficiently. >> expensive, too. >> right. so there are a lot of factors that go into the decision-making. >> but you think this is something that could be done that tells you who has this. >> right. ensuring prompt diagnosis is so important, not just for the patient themselves but to have them isolated. >> so what we'll do is follow up with the cdc. we will call into the different people that are doing it, ask what they know about this, if they need information. i don't know why we haven't heard about this. so, doctor, thanks for letting us know it is not hopeless. even if there aren't tests, there are other ways they can deal with it. why aren't they dealing with it that way?

is it about money? poor access? we'll get on it. look, that's the job. information is the power here. how we handle it is the threat, not coronavirus. that we'll make it through. elizabeth warren didn't make it through. she's out of the race. but she didn't endorse? why not? the answer is in the numbers next. iconic cushion tip does it all. erase. shape. correct. no wonder it's america's #1 concealer. instant eraser. only from maybelline new york. who doesn't love a deal? i do. check out the united explorer card. savin' on this! savin' on this! savin' in here. rewarded! learn more at the explorer card dot com.

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why? where are her supporters likely to go? the questions are answered li linked. the wizard of odds and the professor, ron brownstein here. i don't buy it. she didn't endorse because she's trying to figure out what's best for her. what do we see in the numbers that explains her indecision? >> i think the big question is whether you believe her support is ideological or you logical. the assumption has been she has a liberal base of support. therefore, if she got out of the race, most of it would go to bernie sanders. by the end, she was a candidate of college educated white voters, especially college educated white women who were drawn to her more because she was brainy, in congressmmmand. he reached 25% among college educated white women.

certainly the sanders campaign believes that if she leaves the race -- now that she's left the race, they will get most of her supports. but i don't think you can guarantee that because so much of her support are among the suburban white women who have not been that warm to sanders. today two of the best examples in michigan both endorsed joe biden. i think it is more going to fraction. >> i happen to agree with ron. we saw that in the exit polls coming out of super tuesday. yeah, she does very well among very liberal voters, but she also does well among white college educated women. it was a routers poll today that asked the question who would you vote for. this is just before she got up but after super tuesday. and it shows essentially their voters split. biden had a ten point lead. when you got rid of warren, he was still up by 10. >> oh, good. they have the numbers up there? >> yeah. >> i don't know. so she doesn't endorse.

why? >> why endorse, right? >> well, she keeps power going into the convention. >> the last time she did not, you know, weigh in right away. look, she will have influence no matter who is the nominee. and at this point, i think if she endorses biden, which would make the most sense i think from her point of view, in terms of maximizing her personal leverage, she will alienate a lot of her supporters who like bernie sanders. and if she endorses sanders, if he loses michigan and not be a viable candidate in a week. >> you guys make your point obviously. but the liberals, sanders 50% say then. warren 20%, almost the same as biden, 18%. that's the point you guys are making. even though she echoed bernie's position, it doesn't mean the people that follow her. white women with college degrees, 32%, 25%, 20%. where do her voters go? why does it matter?

>> by the end she wasn't getting that large a percentage of the vote. they basically all have to go to sanders for sanders to catch up to biden national speaking. but i would argue that it's not just sort of -- i would argue that the endorsement is important because it tells us something about the process going forward. right? biden has been getting all these endorsements recently, right? it seems to me he's building momentum. if bernie sanders was able to get that endorsement, maybe e lizwet warren would be saying, hold on. we're not going to have a correlation here and that extends the primary. >> if michigan is everything next tuesday, if whoever wins and loses feels the difference is what happened with her, she's in a pinch. but that's what we'll have to see. we have to know. >> she's not the solution to his problem. if he has a comeback, bernie, it's through blue collar whites in the midwest where he ran well last time and that's where he

has to find a path forward this time. she can't help him with that. >> we'll all be together watching michigan and i think it matter it is most of any state we have seen so far. gentlemen, thank you very much. >> hello. >> thank you. >> bernie or biden? who is stronger? that's the way we think about it, right? no. let's look at it another way. who has the worst weaknesses. why? what do you think is going to happen in this general election? do you think it will be a battle of policy? it will be a blood bath. >> let's test them on their toughest problems. you decide who can deal with weaknesses best. next. [happy birthday music] ♪

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you are not hearing much about it these days for both joe biden or bernie sanders. i argue the media does these campaigns no favors by not picking at the problems because it's coming in the general. why make it seem like it's new when it happens then when you know it now. how you handle the hits can often be the key to victory. let's see how their supporters deal with the heat. nina turner obviously of the bernie sanders campaign. welcome. good to see you. hillary rosen, cnn contributor, good to see you as well. i assume you are taking the biden side of the debate because -- >> i am. i'm endorsing joe biden today. it's new for me. i have been neutral in this primary, but i have been holding out hope for a woman president since 2008. that's not happening. but i'm really comfortable with joe biden. i trust him.

i have known him for many years. i think he will be a great president and i'm totally happy to endorse him today. >> thank you for announcing on this show. it is good to be transparent. i will put up a list of problems for both of your people and we will go point for point. i do not care what either of you has to say about the other campaign. justify your own. first point on biden, past prime. nice guy. as megan mccain said on the view, maybe he is the grief whisperer. he was great to my family when my pop passed, but he's not who he was. we don't see it in the energy and people lack confidence because of that. how do you respond? >> look, i think we are now facing a prospect where one of, you know, a 70 plus year old man is going to be the next president of the united states. and i think they're all pretty comparable in that regard. i'm confident that, you know, vice president biden has vigor.

she he's shown it on the campaign trail. i think he's going to be a solid and stable choice. i'm not worried about that. >> the moments where he seems not to remember to be on message, where he seems to not be able to say thing it is right way. >> he himself talks about that, his old stuttering gets in his way, that he has, you know, a lot of legislative issues that have come up in his campaign and career over the years. no one is perfect. the thing about joe biden, though, when he gaffes because we all know he does -- >> yep. >> -- you never believe he's believes. >> we'll get one problem at a time. yes, he makes mistakes. but there is more than that. we'll get to it in a second. nina, your problem, your man is a socialist. he calls himself a socialist. it scares people in the country. he refuses to back away from it. and he will be beaten about the head and face with it by the

president every day. >> well, it shouldn't scare people. i mean, it is very much in the tradition of president fdr. that is the kind of democratic socialism he's talking about. even though fdr didn't necessarily call it that. >> that's the difference. >> sanders talks about the economic. but it is in the same spirit. it is in the spirit of dr. martin luther king jr. who warns us, us being the black community about white moderates. the 1944 economic bill of rights, what do the american people have a right to, decent job, decent housing, being able to take care of people when they have -- when they're unemployed or old age, disabilities. these are the things that fdr put forward and the elites or the corporates dems of his day came after him, which caused him to say he welcomes their hatred. senator bernie sanders is adding to that the green new deal, medicare for all. >> that's the key you have to

deal with, he is adding to it. the way it will be used is we have never seen spending like this since the new deal. his attempts to pay for it are incomplete. at best they scare people, nina, that he is going to change their economic reality for the worse. in the tens of trillions. >> give me a break. i mean, we don't talk enough about corporate welfare, you know, in this country. we don't talk about how we pay for cuts and subsidies to the wealthiest people, the wealthiest companies in this country. but yet when it comes to putting a down payment on main street, folks want to raise that issue. chris, people are suffering in this country. senator bernie sanders is asking them to imagine to dream a bigger dream, plus, since we are a wealthy nation. we're not a poor nation. president trump gave a $1.6 trillion tax cut to the wealthiest people in the this country. that same tax cut could have been used to pay for canceling

student debt, which senator sanders is pushing for, too. we have the money. we just need to find the wheel to support it. >> you need to find a way to explain to people that it won't be on their back, because that is the fear. >> that's really the key, isn't it. >> those cuts are on their back. >> well, they think they got a tax cut from trump and they think you will take it back and then some. that's the challenge. that's the challenge. >> but they didn't. >> i hear you. but i'm saying that's what you got to deal with. hillary on your side what you have to deal with is decades of controversial votes that look bad and that go along with stories of commitment to social justice and moments in his past that may not be accurate. and each one will be pointed out by the president. you did the crime bill. obama was thinking about it when he was like 11 or whatever the president said today that obama was thinking about the crime bill, too. i know it's b.s., but it is how biden deals with it. you said you were arrested when you were with mandela. i don't think so. you say you were trained to be a

protester and suffered. we don't think so. how do you deal with the record of votes and of stories that don't hold up? >> nina referenced dr. martin luther king before saying he said from the birmingham jail that we should be concerned about white moderates. that's actually not what martin luther king said. >> he did say that. >> he said we should be worried about the silence of white moderates. >> are you kidding me? >> she's making a language point, nina. >> he said we should be worrying about the silence of white moderates. what we have in joe biden is a man that's not silent. he has a long record and many votes that in today's world feel like the wrong thing, were the wrong thing and he discussed that over and over again as bernie sanders did on the gun sloets and other things. we can be talking about votes from 20 years ago or we can be talking about values and who they trust. >> last quick point to you.

>> what he was talking about, he said it is the point that the white moderate wants things to be comfortable instead of focussing on the bigger threat is not necessarily the white kkk member but more the white moderate that is more comfortable with keeping things -- >> don't use martin luther king against joe biden. you don't have that -- you don't have that standing. i'm sorry. you don't. >> don't tell me what kind of standing i have as a black woman in america. how dare you? >> you don't have a lot of standing as a black woman in america. you don't have the standing to attack joe biden using martin luther king's words. >> i didn't attack anybody. you are taking it that way. listen, don't get into what i have to say about the reverend dr. martin luther king jr. how dare you as a white woman. >> that is not what i said. don't you do that. >> nina, hillary, i'm out of time on this one -- >> chris, i didn't jump in on her, though and she wants to

jump in on he. >> you guys are in the same party. this is what you guys have to figure out. you're in the same party. and let me tell you, you better keep that same energy when you are up against trump that you have against each other because he is bigger and badder than i think you guys are ready for. only light can drive out darkness, only love can drive out hate. that is the challenge. >> amen to that. >> that's what you represent against this president. i wish you both good luck going forward. nina turner, be well. >> thank you. >> hillary rosen, thank you for the announcement. be well. >> thank you. all right. listen, i mean what i say, and you are looking at the state of play. you figure out what it means to you. now, on the other side of the ball, the president is playing his game already on you. chuck schumer taking him on. it's working.

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face "john adams under fire." this is it. you have to read this book to understand what needs to be done today. we'll get you there with the discussion. brother, congratulations. >> good to see you. thank you. >> first, william barr, a federal judge today says there are questions about the candor of the attorney general in how he dealt with the mueller report redactions. how big a deal is that for a judge to say? >> it is a really big deal because it is exactly the issue in this case. the question is were the redactions proper? the judge is saying i don't know that we can trust the attorney general who made the redactions. and that's a big statement. and he's doing it by saying that the attorney general's characterization of the mueller report was, let's just say, lacked cancandor, that it didn' reflect what the mueller report actually said. that's quite a rebuke. >> especially in a case that's about what information gets to the american people. and this is the judge's

commentary about how it might have been processing. >> let's be clear. he's saying, i don't trust you. i don't trust the justice department. >> chuck schumer, someone we both noel, senate majority leader. you will face the whirlwind. i didn't mean it. i'm from brooklyn. he apologizes for what he said. >> sort of apologizes. >> i give you. i don't like the broken part. you said it because you thought it would work for you. now it is not working for you, so you apologize. what does it represent? >> first of all, it was a huge mistake. he should be criticized. he should be condemned for it. also, the disrespect with which he treated the justices. >> yes. >> he didn't refer to them by their formal names of justice. >> gore and brett kavanaugh. >> the bottom line is there should be respect for the justices of the supreme court. >> you don't have to like the

decision. you must respect its enforcement. >> but to criticize the opinions, criticize the reasoning, criticize the ruling, all fair game. that's very different than making it personal to the justices. he initially claimed, well, obviously that's not what i meant. that's sure what it sounded like. >> that's right. >> didn't apologize. didn't say i was wrong. he said i didn't use the right words. he gave a political answer. now talk about playing politics with the same thing. the president comes out. if a republican did this, they would be in jail. he does it all the time. he did it about two justices by name the week before with that play. >> well, look, i think it's different for him to say that justices should recuse themselves. i don't think that's comparable to what schumer did. i think what schumer did is worse. >> that's an obama judge. >> or it is a mexican judge, right? those are the sorts of things that are even worse. >> right. >> so we have to provide context here. and the point is, all of these

attacks on judges, the personal attacks, not on the ruling, not on the reasoning, undermine our faith in the rule of law. that's why justice roberts last time came out and said we don't have obama judges. i was glad he did it. >> now, the democrats will say, what are you talking about? >> right, right. >> trump does it all the time. nobody spanks him. mcconnell doesn't get on the floor and talk about him. >> but roberts did do it previously. but, look, it is fair to say that it's not easy. i'm not saying, oh, we always got to say one side and then the other side. very often and i think the number of times president trump has done it, named herman jackson in judge after judge. >> he thought flores was the judge. he said it was some mexican judge. flores was the name of the plaintiff. it was the person involve sgd. >> we can make judgments about what's worse, but that doesn't mean chuck schumer gets off the

hook. that happened today. as a result, we're going to talk about it today. when trump said those things about those judges, i was all over him at the time, and he's had more incidents than schumer has had. but here we are today. >> got to call them all out. otherwise, it doesn't stop. you see it from schumer. >> but people like us have to fight for the rule of law. >> 100%. that's why you wrote the book. look, i don't sell books on the show. you know that. yes, dan is a friend of mine, but i wouldn't do it if i didn't believe in the book. today is the 250th anniversary, okay, of the boston massacre. john adams, okay, young lawyer at the time, this book takes the transcript, 217 pages. >> yep. >> and goes through it with his co-author. john adams takes the case of british soldiers shooting american columnists. they wanted to kill them. tear them up, send the message to england. he was in the same situation we are, far exacerbated at the

time. adams said the revolution might have started that day if we didn't stand up for the rule of law. how meaningful today? >> absolutely. it was the faith in the legal system that prevented the revolution from happening six years earlier. think about it. five colonists shot by soldiers and their tribe and people wait and calm down and wait for the trial and follow the trial and read the transcript and say, okay, you know, we may not agree with this, but as the governor at the time of massachusetts said, we will live and die by the law. and people accepted that. and that's why it's so important today to not be undermining our judges and not be getting personal with them. it's exactly, i think, what john adams would be saying today. his defense of these british soldiers was terribly unpopular. this is a guy that got rocks thrown through his window. he lost half his law business because he's representing the

enemy. >> and he didn't even politicize the case. a lot of lawyers try to make it about something bigger. trump does that all the time. he stuck to the facts because he didn't want to raise something that would cloud the law. >> he wouldn't do it. he wouldn't go after the citizens of boston. even though the argument was the british soldiers were acting in self-defense. these people came at them. >> adams was very careful not to attack them but to simply talk about the perspective of the soldiers who were there, getting rocks thrown at them. >> see the president today, obviously john adams would go on to be president, but you have a president today, you have a lot of people around him and even with what we saw schumer, he has to get some stink on him. they're doing the opposite of what adams did. that's a risk. >> it's a huge risk. i come back to we have to be able to have faith in our judges. and i know there are people out there that want to say, oh, we should, expand the supreme court. i don't trust these nine judges and as a result i think we

should get more. i don't think that's the answer. the answer should be we have a system in place. you want a new president to appoint? vote for a new president. in the meantime, we have judges that need to be respected no matter who appoints them. i hate it when there is references to this is a trump judge or this is an obama judge. they should be treated as judges. their rulings matter. and we have to have the same kind of faith that john adams had in our legal system today as he did then. >> dan abrams you know. david fisher his co-author. john adams under fire. it is a referendum on what matters today. bravo. this is a public service. i hope it kills it. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> this one is inscribed. we did the radio show today. congratulations on all the success. >> thank you. all right. now coronavirus, what's the risk? the risk is not being told the

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president tells you. that's not me saying it. it's what you get from what comes out of his mouth. exhibit a. >> i think the 3.4% is a false number. now, this is just my hunch. >> listen, scientists believe it's probably too low, too, but he uses his hunch to tell you -- people think that it's too high. 3.4 is too high. they think it's going to be less than half of that. why? we're only hearing about the worst cases. when you test more there will be more case ands positive outcomes. that's why you need the truth. but his hunch also tells him this toxic talk works for him. if he says it won't be a big deal it won't be a big deal. that's not the truth. instead of trusting information from doctors and scientists he wants you to trust his hunch. the truth is he knows nothing to an spexpert degree, let alone this. he claims why.

exhibit b. >> we're down to, we're really down to probably ten. most of the people are outside of danger right now. >> he does president know what he's talking about. look, you don't want to increase panic, but you don't do it by lying about the reality in a situation that is a pandemic that is just beginning. nobody is going to buy that. his hunch is that artificial case numbers and false suggestions that it's nothing are better for him. but what about us? he should have prepared. he should have been straight with us. he should have done things more quickly. he made cuts that looked good then, and they're a problem now. they slow walked testing. that's the fact. it's also the past. going forward, what do we need? no more excuses from him like this. >> the obama administration made a decision on testing that turned out to be very detrimental to what we're doing. >> it's just not true. i don't even know what he's talking about. let's give him the best read.

there was a rule in 2004 that added some red tape to lab testing. is that what he's talking about? maybe. it was five years before obama took office. he did the same thing today with the crime bill. some people say obama liked it. it was 1994 at the time that it happened. this is what he does. give you a boogie man. blame somebody else. he's the victim, but we're getting sick. listen to him last night, railing on this controversial night. >> this was a biden/obama law. i guess biden was the senator then examine pushing it hard. obama was -- somebody said he was talking about it but he had to be pretty young if that were the case. >> somebody said. the same person who told you about dancing on the roofs of 9/11. this isn't something to play with, man. coronavirus needs the could be if i dense of the american people that you're taking care of them, not yourself. i'm not worried about the virus. we don't have that science

telling us that. i'm worried about how you make people feel about it. go after biden. he's going to have to defend his own record. primary contenders said the same thing. obama, 1994 was a few years out of law school. he was teaching constitutional law in illinois. he had something to do with it? he hadn't even run for office yet. it's a lie. more proof. senator schumer. look, you heard us go after him on the show tonight, rightly so, all right. they will pay the price the whirlwind for their decisions. trump then said this. >> it was a terrible thing he said. i was, i was amazed by it and if that were a republican, you would see really bad things happening. it's very, very unequal justice and it's a disgrace that he was able to say something like that. >> wrong. you would see me talking about it and you would hear mcconnell say nothing. unlike today when you basically gave him another set of walking orders. what schumer said was wrong. you have to respect justice.

this president never respects the administration of justice unless it's on his side. the truth matters more in this situation than ever before. okay. you have to demand it. do not excuse what trump does as just more of his mouth. i wish heed stay off twitter. not with coronavirus. demand the truth. expose what isn't true and let him know you hear it all. all right. when we come back, got a bolo for you you're going to want to hear. makes things easy. traveling lighter. taking a shortcut. woooo! taking a breather. rewarded! learn more at the explorer card dot com. rakuten is free to sign up and it's in over 3,000 stores. i use it to buy makeup... travel... ...clothes, electronics. to me, rakuten is a great way to get cash back on anything you buy. sign up today and rack it up with rakuten.

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bolo, be on the look out. disinformation online. not just russian bots, the president's own reelection campaign. take a look. posts like this all over facebook this week directing users to take the official 2020 census. it's b.s. you click on it and it redirects you to trump's fund-raising site ask asks you for personal information. civil rights groups are worried. it could interfere with the actual census which begins next week. the president not a fan about the census. wants certain questions asked certain ways, remember? facebook says it's going to remove them. see how that goes. we could see cyber tactics like this again and again. be on the look out, my brothers and sisters.

all right, thank you for watching me. up next we've got anderson cooper and dr. sanjay gupta. they have such an important town hall for us all. "coronavirus facts and fears." please tune in right now. ♪ ♪ >> hello and welcome to the cnn global town hall. i'm anderson cooper. >> and i'm dr. sanjay gupta. thanks for joining us at home and everyone in the studio tonight. >> we're here tonight because we believe the best way to fight fear is with facts, not hype, not hope, not hunches, facts. there is right now a lot we know about this virus and a lot we don't yet know and it is important to address what we don't know as it is to illuminate what we do. tonight we're going to bring you the latest