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a national emergency and a president who needs constant fact-checking. >> the virus will not have a chance against us. no nation is more prepared. we will see more cases. bottom line. it's going to get worse. >> plus, the anxious new normal. schools closed, sports on hold. life disrupted. >> people should take it seriously. coming here. >> and tuesday, what could be the final democratic debate
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tonight. >> we share a common goal. together we'll defeat donald trump. >> i very much look forward to the debate with my friend joe biden. >> "inside politics," the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters now. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. to our viewers inside the united states and around the world, thank you for sharing this hour. governments pose new restrictions aimed at dealing with the pandemic. spanning france among the many nations over the weekend taking additional steps aimed at shutting down travel and restricting large gatheringgath. >> translator: as you all know, spain is facing a public health emergency, a pandemic that's global and involves serious harm to people's well being.
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the measures we are going to adopt are drastic and will have consequences. >> it's personal for the prime minister there. his wife was diagnosed with coronavirus just last night. a nighttime curfew, for example, in hoboken, new jersey. retail and grocery chains scaling back evening hours so stores can be cleaned and shelves restocked. the government has added travel restrictions, adding united kingdom and ireland. those lines are long. the big developments also include this. the white house saturday issuing a statement saying president trump tested negative for coronavirus. that less than 24 hours after a white house statement saying there was no need for the president to be tested. the president came into the briefing room saturday only after reporters were scanned. see the images there, a new
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policy, the white house says, to keep anyone with a fever away. team trump pushing a message of progress talking friday about a national emergency and the house vote hours later promoting a giant coronavirus package. that's evidence the white house is gathering better tools and resources to help fight the pandemic and those impacted by it. >> it was done very, very bipartisan. it was very nice to see it. >> if you are sick, now you need not be concerned if you're an hourly wage earner in america. you need not be concerned about staying home. if you're sick, stay home. you're not missing a paycheck because of the legislation pushing through this -- >> that will be what i thought the word that i use essentially unshackling us from any of the things that are going to get in the way of our implementing -- >> significant hiccups do remain
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including confusion about the production and availability of coronavirus tests, vice president pence promising the latest on that front later. here are the latest u.s. numbers. there are at least 2,885 cases. at least 60 dead in the united states. lisa lair of "the new york times." cnn's kaitlan collins. the administration really trying to project the image. they've acknowledged the missteps. one of the key things they say is these new federal powers from the state of emergency and the federal bill, but one of the things in the bill, correct me if i'm wrong, once it gets to the president's desk, yes, there are sick leave benefits for some, but not everybody. >> correct. one of the pieces they were haggling over the last minute
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were these family medical leave issues that house democrats wanted to be much more generous than what was actually in the bill. so what is in the bill now applies to companies with fewer than 500 employees. i thought what speaker pelosi said about the final product was really interesting. she said the house democrats wants to pass this on their own with more generous benefits. they wanted to get sign-off from the administration. now there is some resistance from senate republicans for the package but not enough to get to the president's desk, but the next steps are going to be harder. steve mnuchin, the secretary treasurer, said this is only the beginning of the legislative packages, but the more economic packages such as a payroll
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package is going to be much more difficult to do. >> we saw so much last week that was just wow, things here in washington, around the country, stores shutting down, schools, and the like. that's only going to accelerate. you see a curve in hoboken. 26 million kids in 19 states plus the district of columbia out of school. i suspect that will grow. there seems to be a turning point that whatever you're doing, whether it's right or wrong, needs to be accelerated. >> where you saw that turning point, the most obvious place you saw it was with the white house itself, the president, with the messaging he used, h language, the following on fox news, for example. and the president came late to the game. the whougs coming to that place
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with the national mrmg and the president ultimately himself saying he had taken this test. in the meantime you're seeing -- i mean honestly we've all been to the store panicked at grocery stores. i was at a line getting food surrounded by a thousand people thinking this seems riskier than if i just stayed home. my friends who work in the field, the issue of why it's important to stock up and supplies is not because of what's going to happen next week. it's because of what's going to happen two months from now. so we don't know yet. there are different projections and different models how this could go. it could be dangerous or impossible to go to the store in a couple of months. we don't know yet. it's hard for the government to message this, prepare now for what we don't know later because the more precautions that are taken now, probably less chaos down the road. >> and difficult. again, there have been some
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missteps, but even as they try to regroup, they're difficult in the united states of america because of the system t way the health is set up, schools are set up. for the most part, these decisions are left to state and local governments, but we're beginning to see that as well. when you see more school closings, when you see a town like hoboken who says we're going to have a nighttime curfew, essentially telling americans, you must listen, you can't go out to bars an club. you must listen. >> this needs to happen from the top. the one thing the federal government can do and the white house can do is message this. this is a real emergency. this is a moment when you can't be in bars yunld need to take extraordinary steps in your own life and i think the early missteps may have had an impact here of conveying the seriousness. all the data shows if you start early with this kind of distancing and measures, you have better impact in terms of
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the curve. this message had to come early. i think what's concerning is how partisan the response has been. if you're a republican you view this crisis differently than does the democrat. not just how the president is handling it, but how seriously you handle it. >> a month ago we were being criticized by the administration, the reporters, because they were essentially accusing us of exaggerating, people like mick mulvaney saying you're only talk about about about this because you're trying to take the president down. of course, they're taking it seriously and changed their tune in the last few days. where we're at now is because of a serious lack of testing and that's a serious problem. now it's shifting from how many people can we test to how many will be overwhelming the hospital system. that doesn't seem to be the case now. we haven't gotten information on
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ventilators, beds, which are going to become critical over the next few weeks. >> again, the vice president promised us yesterday this evening we would get an update on testing. the president said it wasn't true about google having an update. anthony fauci will be here later too. he said, yes, yes, part of it is the way the national system is built. and when it came to testling, t failure. >> it is a failure. the idea of doing it the way the other countries are, we're not set up for it. do i think we should be, yes, but we are not. >> what are we expecting in the sense that they're giving waivers so the private labs can move more quickly to developing tests. one of the issues, you try to flatten the growth of cases so people might be going to the
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hospital months from now, but you don't want to overwhelm it now immediately because the system can't handle it. you do think they have finally cracked the code here? or this is the problem. >> this is what we talk about when we talk about clear information. what's so important in a public health crisis is clear consistent information, and you're just not getting this. the white house as you mentioned, they said there was this google effort. it turns out there really isn't this google effort. i think the american people need to know where the administration is going, what they're working on, what's true and what's not. that needs to be amplified by the media. i think that has been a consistent problem since the beginning of the crisis and it's a problem that could come to bite us all. >> to the point it seemed at least yesterday in briefing they have turned the corner. it seems the appropriate thing to do. look at those pictures. it seems appropriate. there has been. let's go back earlier in the
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week. there's been mixed messaging even on the issue of travel. >> i certainly wouldn't get on a plane for a pleasure trip. it would have to be something that was really urgent. >> if i weren't so busy working, i would be going home to los angeles, and i would be perfectly comfortable getting on a commercial plane this weekend. >> that's just friday from the treasury secretary. one assumes they've all gotten in a room and said stop, at least stop and coordinate. >> i want to assume so, but, again, that is the problem coming from this administration now and whether you should travel for whatever reasons, it's not the only time where there's been inconsistent messaging. i think that's the problem frustrating capitol hill. you saw a series of briefings later in the week when they could not get answered from the administration when tests will be ramping up. that's coming from their constituents, they're worried. they're wondering how and why these tests are being rationed.
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members of congress are not able to give these answers to their constituents, and that is a problem that is confounding, and i think the administration acknowledges it. >> you've seen the reaction out in the states. the governor of colorado issued an order shutting down ski resorts. children going home, families saying they're going to take advantage of skiing. they're shutting down the ski resorts. up next, crisis management, trump style. it keeps them very busy. as we come back, capturing america's new normal.
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president trump acknowledging he has not set the trend for public distancing. others said that was a coronavirus taboo. >> people come up to me, shake hands, put their hand out. sort of a natural reflex. we're all getting out of it. all of us have that problem. somebody comes up to you, people put their hand out, you tend to shake it. we're all dealing with that. shaking hands is not good, i agree. sometimes you put your hands out. we're not thinking about it. people have to think about it more and more. we have to think about it.
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>> any actions and words of the president gets more attention. friday he stated the market was a smashing success. the president was so happy with himself he sent this, an autographed copy of the market spike to some of his supporters, but once again there was a big problem. a big piece of what the president said in that rose garden event was just not true. >> i want to thank google. they're helping to develop a website. it's going to be very quickly done unlike websites of the past, to determine whether a test is warranted and to facilitate testing at a nearby convenient location. >> here's the problem. there was no national google website when the president spoke. the company said in a statement friday night it was working on a trial site in the bay area in california. late saturday after hasty
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negotiations with the white house, google said it would work on a national website, but it gave now timetable. >> by april, you know, in theory when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away. >> the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country. >> we're going down, not up. when you have 15 people and 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done. >> anybody that need as test gets a test. we're there. they have the test. and the tests are beautiful. >> we're doing a great job with it. it will go away. stay calm. >> some of the doctors say it will wash through, it will flow through. very accurate. i think you're going to find that in a number of weeks. >> again, the question is at what point is there a point at which he gets it and is it
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consistent? again, in the president's defense, you want to project calm, you want to project confidence, you don't want to project panic. at the same time is if you have accurate information you can trust. >> you don't want to give a false sense of hope when you're floating and exaggerating this when you tell people about their symptoms and direct them to a place to get tested, it's falsely reassuring people. that's not true. it would be amazing if they had that website and it was something they could go to, but it's not close to being done. that's the issue when the president exaggerates and overstates. he gives people a false sense of security. when it's the most critical information you need and you're telling people it doesn't exist at all, that's the concern, and that's this issue with the president's credibility on this matter. important to people.
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they need to know if there's a website like that. you should not be saying things like that that are not helpful to the public. >> sorry. the public are not going to rise next time if he does that. this because little bit of a sugar high for him to reduce the markets. he sees it as a reflection of the success of his administration. you know, markets, traders are not -- they're smart. they know if he's promising false things, they're not going to believe him. they do have polling that shoes the majority of americans do not think he's honest. >> as you go through this, we're going to talk in a minute to one of the leading health experts who's going to talk about global lessons. one of them is was the president flatfooted. january 21st, the first came confirmed in the united states. the white house did create a task force on january 29th. in february, a month later, he
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put the vice president in charge. then you see the first coronavirus death. the oval office address. march 13th is the national emergency. for example, 43 days passed before the first u.s. tests and cdc waved or eased the regulations to develop these testings. why? >> i think a couple of things happened, but the first thing that happened is the administration saw this primarily as a financial threat in the beginning. they saw it as a health threat overseas and a financial threat in the united states. and by the time they realized it was a massive health threat, some of the results of the bad initial start from the cdc, you know, became a problem. so as a lot of those things are being corrected and we're so used to an instant society like there's a problem with the test? we'll get a new test. even as that's happening, messaging is completely
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important in terms of containment, people's own practices. it was in part that juggling, trying to balance business continuity and the economy with the health threats and then also the president's own messaging. and i think here we're talking about public -- we're talking about, you know, being able to trust a president. we're talking about informing the public. and you have to have trust in institutions. and i think we're going to see the president has said at every institution, told voters throughout his presidency at different times, you can't trust them. he's saying you can trust me. and we're really going to see that tested now. there is a political aspect to this also. we'll see it play out a little bit in those debates tonight. we did a focus group in the last week of swing voters who had voted for obama in the past and
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trump in 2016, and you would think that those voters would be looking at this as a test on president trump's leadership. what those voters told us in this focus group, those swing voters -- this was just a few days ago -- they said they still see this primarily as an economic threat, not a health threat, and if the country goes into recession, they would not blame president trump because it's a foreign health crisis that came here and bigger than any we've seen. i think we're at a tipg point, but we're going to see a shift in public opinion about how we perceive this and it goes hand in hand with the administration. >> up next for us, global lessons learned from this pandemic. at a time of stress, yo-yo ma shares a source of calm. ♪
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cultural ties. what are the biggest challenges ahead? doctor, i appreciate you being with us this sunday morning. when you look around the world, who's doing this best? who's fighting this best? >> so there are a couple of countries who have done a really fabulous job. south korea is at the top of the list. singapore, taiwan. japan has been doing a better job recently. >> is there a constant in there that tells you this works? >> so the tragedy they've implemented is test early, test often. identify and isolate. trace them. monitor them. that strategy has worked very well across the globe. >> so you mentioned test early, test often and identify.
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>> we still can't test people who are sick today, so now we have to move to a very different phase. testing is still critically important, but it's still no longer going to be enough. >> you talked about flattening the curve. you talked about it with me in the past, dr. fauci does. explain to viewers why it's so important to flatten this curve so the health care system is not overwhelmed, and what are the best steps now to make that happen? >> yep. so think about it this way. if a thousand sick people show up to the emergency department this morn, that emergency department is going to get overwhelmed, the hospital's going to get overwhelmed. but if the same people show up over the next 15 days or two weeks, the hospital will be fine. we need to make sure there is not a spike.
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no system in the world is ready to handle the spikes that come out of this virus. >> what are we learning? i want you to listen to dr., but at the white house briefing yesterday. he said watch for people with fevers, watch for people who have a cough. one of the questions now are people who are younger people including younger people we thought were more protected, are younger people asim tot matic spreading it? listen here. >> we don't believe people under 20 are naully protected from the virus. so are they a group who are potentially asymptomatic and spreading the virus? because of that unknown we don't want to say the risk is low when we don't know how low the numbers are for people who are asymptomatic. >> do we have a sense in are there things people are being told a week or two ago that maybe are not true, that we know
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not to be true or not to be exact. >> we had this idea that somehow only older people or people compromised will get very sick from this. i don't think that's true. they're clearly at higher risk. but we've seen 30-year-olds, 40-year-olds get incredibly sick. i don't think they're protected. plus as dr. birx said, they get infected and spread it around the community. this is why it's so important everybody practice social distancing. people need to stop hanging out at bars and restaurants. >> when you say that, do you get a sense when you look at the past few days? i know you've been critical of the response in the past few days, whether it's the travel restrictions by the federal government, the school closing, 26 million children. i assume it's going spike a lot. airlines cutting back flights, hoboken, a nighttime curfew.
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colorado issuing an executive order, no more skiing. do you think people are getting it, or are there lessons to be learned? >> we're playing catchup and i like all of those things. that's all progress. the question is it enough. the problem is while we're doing these things, the disease is continuing spread across america. our best estimates are 20, 30,000 americans probably have the number today. i know the official number is only 3,000 because we've only tested a small number of people. are we being aggressive enough? this is great progress but it's not enough. we shouldn't have schools open. people shouldn't be going into offices if they don't have to. i believe hoboken is the model we need to move toward now. i can't believe i ever would have said that. here we are. hoboken is our model. i think restaurants and bars need to close. i think people cannot congregate, not until we have a much better understanding of how
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widespread this disease is across the country. >> thank you for your time. i'm going to call you in the days and weeks but hopefully not months ahead. up next, the coronavirus and the campaign. joe biden and bernie sanders focus for crisis management in what could be the last primary debate tonight. sure cooker, the best of pressure cooking and air frying now in one pot, and with tendercrisp technology, you can cook foods that are crispy on the outside and juicy on the inside. the ninja foodi pressure cooker, the pressure cooker that crisps. you can't always stop for a fingerstick.betes with the freestyle libre 14 day system, a continuous glucose monitor, you don't have to. with a painless, one-second scan you can check your glucose with a smart phone or reader so you can stay in the moment. no matter where you are or what you're doing. ask your doctor for a prescription for the freestyle libre 14 day system. you can do it without fingersticks. learn more at freestylelibre.us.
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joe biden and bernie sanders will be debating tonight and there will be no student questions. let's take a look at the map on the state of the race. heading into the race tonight joe biden has a healthy delegate lead. he's hoping to convince bernie sanders it's time to call it quits. florida, 219, illinois, 155, ohio, 136, arizona, 67. this is tuesday. voters asked to go out and vote in the primaries amid the coronavirus concerns. if you look at the map now, all of that biden blue hoping the tuesday vote sends a message. he's hoping in the debate tonight to make some progress reaching out to the sanders side. senator sanders said he's in this race and wants to continue to fight. because of the virus, none of them out campaigning in the states.
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yesterday, a fireside chat with bernie sanders from vermont. >> spring is coming but it's still nippy. >> keep the faith on this one. these are tough times. we will get through this. and let us understand if there was ever a moment in history when we're in this together for all kinds of reasons, this is that moment. let's stand together. >> cnn joins the conversation. you're normally on the road when we talk to you. you're home because there is no campaign on the road. the candidates are going to debate tonight. knowing the math, i assume they're a little nervous about turnout on tuesday. what's his major goal on the debate? >> joe biden is going to do what he's done in the last few days, present helms present himself as a steady leader.
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he's going to make a stance for supporters and that highlights the task at happened for joe biden going forward is as he makes his case for why he should be the nominee, he also needs to make sure he's not alienating sanders supporters who if he does become the nominee, he will need on his side. >> we saw an example of that yesterday when we saw biden endorse elizabeth warren's bankruptcy plan. he moves over, saying to bernie sanders, we can agree on this. they're trying to say, close your eyes and imagine if i was president. presidents like to talk about the 3:00 a.m. phone call. that's happening now. something very deeply unpredictable is beginning. >> i think that's exactly right.
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the state of this is so high. it's a high-wire act for these candidates. not only has joe biden shuttered his offices and everyone is working from home and they're trying to figure out the town halls, the mechanics have changed and the stakes have changed. this is a realtime leadership test for these candidates. politics have become something that's very real for people. they want real information. this is something that's very intimate, and i think people have grown used to the chaos coming out of washington and the white house, but for a very long time, that was something that was a long time away, that was washington. now it feels like it's hitting home, and so i think a lot of people will be watching this debate very closely and critically with an eye toward how both of these candidates would behave if they were to be president. it's very easy to trip that up. >> look how different it is from the last debate.
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the coronavirus question came in the last hour of the debate, what would you do in this situation. tonight the debate will be moved. there's not going to be an audience. they've been talking about this on the campaign trail. to see them side by side comparing it not only to the president but to each other, it's something people will be watching and listening very closely. >> you know, health care already was the number one issue for democratic voters. i can't think of a bigger health care crisis. i do think it's an opportunity for both joe biden and bernie sanders to try to make their case in the debate, and we may see that tonight, right? if you're joe biden, you might be saying in the middle of a crisis, you don't want to upend the system. you need predictability and reliability. bernie sanders is probably going to say, look, we already knew our health care system wasn't working and look how bad it is
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now. this is going to be one test. the other is that the primaries next week all have states full of older voters. are they going to mail in ballots? are they going to turn out? if they don't, could we have a surprise? is bernie sanders going to get closer to florida than he ever would? >> those cases have to be looked at delicately. voters don't want to see them knocking the dickens out of each other, they don't want to see those harsh attacks. they want to know what you're going to do for me when i can't buy toilet paper at the supermarket. >> the former vice president can say -- this is where his day one argument can help. he can say, i can walk. i know how the government works. >> since the beginning of the campaign, he's said he's got the experience and he has those he can consult and he's ready to
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past week. and we already know there will be even more coronavirus disruption in the week ahead. let's just take a look some of what we already know. 19 states plus the district of columbia and puerto rico, those are states that have ordered school closings. the sports world just shut down, hockey, baseball, march madness, the masters, tennis, everything shut down as the sports industry realizes you cannot have large gatherings in this time of coronavirus. the ripple effect throughout the entertainment industry. disneyland, smithsonian, coachella, movies delayed, broadway dark, late night tv, concerts canceled, again, across the entertainment industry, large crowds are dangerous, things are shutting down. there is a giant and ever-growing economic crisis. what we know so far, movie theater chains cutting capacity, airlines slashing flights, cruise lines suspending
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operations, apple among big retailers closing stores or restricting hours. for many of you, unable to worship as usual, churches, synagogues, mosques coast-to-coast canceling services because of the coronavirus virus. the steps designed to protect us can also cause chaos. there are giant lines at major international airports in the united states because of a rush to get back before new travel restrictions announced by the trump administration take place. polo sandoval at jfk airport in new york, polo, a bit of chaos there. >> reporter: john, the scenes coming in from select airports across the country tell much of the story. as you mentioned, it's a story of confusion, chaos, and plenty of concern. these passengers returning back to the united states, residents or u.s. citizens forced to wait in these packed lines to not only go through the customs process but now this additional
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layer of health screenings that's been implemented. in the first day, off to a very rocky start, according to passengers who were forced to wait in line. >> i spent three hours, i think, or a little bit more, waiting first to get through customs and then the second step, i'm not sure what was happening. >> it's not ideal considering what this contagion is. it's the worst system i can think of considering what this contagious is. >> reporter: a couple days ago the trump administration announced they will establish several airports to receive overseas passengers, they will be asked about their travel history and possibly referred to further screening. at least three passengers here at jfk have been sent to the hospital after that particular screening. it takes only about a minute to process according to the head of
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homeland security. he tweeted yesterday saying dhs is aware of the lines and undergoing increased medical screening requirements. they're working with airlines to try to expedite the process. the acting secretary says he understands it's extremely stressful but is asking for patience, he says hopefully they'll be able to make up for the logjam. it fuels concerns, john. >> it certainly does appear, polo, they're understaffed. polo sandoval at jfk, we appreciate that. italy's experience offers some important lessons. the country of rome, milan, and florence is now on virtual lockdown. cnn's melissa bell is in rome for us. melissa, tough times in the
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united states but tough times around the world, including there in italy. >> reporter: that's right, john. we've seen italy is simply perhaps three weeks ahead of other countries. that lockdown now spreading to spain, those special measures in france, itself edging towards the total lockdown we're seeing here. this is something likely to be replicated in other countries. it's extraordinary watching this country turn into ghost towns. that of course is taking a psychological toll. the other thing to look at is even while this is continuing, these extraordinary restrictions, where people are confined to their homes, only lo allowed to go out to buy supplies, food stores, pharmacies, those are the only businesses open here in the cities, those measures, people -- we're getting to the end of the first week where people are trying to get used to that. it's a disconnection from the rest of the world and very hard to get used to. and yet the figures here in italy continue rising.
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it shows, john, i think that even extreme lockdowns like the one that we're seeing in italy take time to take effect. you really have to be prepared for the long haul. the latest figures, the ones that were announced last night, nearly 3,500 cases in a 24-hour period, that is a new record. it's going to take some time for those measures to filter through to those nationwide figures. one glimmer of hope from the north, those parts of the country that were locked down early about three weeks ago, we are starting to see a stabilization of the figures, not yet a drop, but they're not rising as fast as they were. i think that is the glimmer of hope that everyone in europe will be looking at, john. >> let's hope that glimmer of hope turns into a reality. that's it for "inside politics." we're here weekends as well noon eastern. we try to give you the facts every day in these trying times. brianna keilar is in for jake tapper, next. dr. anthony fauci and new york city mayor bill de blasio will
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the growing pandemic. coronavirus spreads across the u.s. as the trump administration promises to increase testing. >> we have not reached our peak. we will see more suffering and death. >> is the u.s. prepared for how much worse it could get? i'll speak to one of the president's coronavirus task force leaders, dr. anthony fauci, next. and on edge. the deadly virus stokes fear and transforms american life. >> it seems to me we're in the middle of a war here. everything we're doing is trying to save lives. >> how long will this be the
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