tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN March 16, 2020 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
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good evening. tonight, some unsettling truths about the coronavirus. last night, this time, in this country there were 65 deaths. tonight, by cnn's count there are now 4,412 cases and there have been 81 deaths in all in the united states. it's an increase of 1,026 new cases and 16 additional deaths. that is all in just one 24-hour period. that is unprecedented for this country. we also heard an admission from president trump today that this
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pandemic will not be over anytime soon. it could go until at least july or august, he said. we really don't know. markets fell dramatically again today. the dow, its biggest one-day drop ever despite emergency measures taken by the federal reserve sunday. the president made this admission when asked if the economy is headed toward reinvestigation, he responded, quote, it may be. also, worries aboard a jfk flight this evening grounded on the tarmac as we believe a passenger was believed to have come in contact with someone who had the virus. more on that in a moment. issued new guidance today to combat the spread of the virus. among other actions, they ask anyone who can, particularly older americans, to stay home. critically, they say to avoid gatherings in groups of more than ten people. not the 50 that were recommended just yesterday. now, it's ten. heeding the words of state and local officials is actually number on on that list of
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guidelines issued today. also, today, the new jersey -- they mobilized the national guard and instituted voluntary curfew of 8:00 p.m. pennsylvania's governor issued a statewide shutdown. issued a shelter-in-place order, meaning residents must stay home. similar to something in italy and also spain and now france that they have also instituted. the president also said he is not looking at a nationwide quarantine, contrary to a rumor on the internet. but he did say isolated ones may happen. overall, it was a sobering list of guidelines for all us americans as the reality of this virus has hit and hit hard. erica hill is in time square. erica, pretty dramatic shift in american life today. >> there certainly is and here in time square, anybody who's ever seen a picture of time square knows it is normally bustling. certainly, at this hour of the day. with tourists but also folks who
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work in the building . throughout the day, it has been quiet. but this really illustrated what is changing around the country and as you said, anderson, many of those changes coming at the local and state level. an eerily quiet time square. the latest reminder that life today is different, and will be for some time. >> this afternoon, we're announcing new guidelines for every american to follow over the next 15 days. avoid gathering in groups of more than ten people. avoid discretionary travel. >> the guidelines were announced on the heels of several states enacting new operating hours and restrictions for restaurants and bars. now, shifting to takeout only. >> many people will get in their car and they'll drive to connecticut to go to a bar, which is the last thing we want. >> movie theaters, gyms, and casinos will be closed, indefinitely. and new york city mayor bill da bl bill de blasio made it clear more changes could be coming to
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his city. >> i have been asked repeatedly are we considering travel restrictions? are we considering curfews? we are considering everything is the answer. everything is on the table. we will decide when we want to employ each. >> the surgeon general warns decisions made today will determine much of what happens tomorrow. >> we have a choice to make. do we want to really lean into social distancing and mitigation strategies? and flatten the curve. or do we just want to keep going on with business as usual? and end up being italy. >> for millions of families starting the week with children at home, it is far from business as usual. parents are learning to teach, while also trying to work. >> would not surprise me at all if schools did not open again this year. >> former new jersey governor chris christie calling to close all schools. primaries will now be held in june. life on hold and nearly every
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industry bracing. concert tours, sporting events, daycare. businesses, large and small, in limbo. walmart is cutting back hours to give stores a chance to restock the shelves. while markets ration some of the most sought-after items, including milk and cleaning products. >> were you able to get everything you needed this morning? >> almost. >> doctors are increasingly concerned about their own supplies, including the nation's stock of life-saving ventilators. the president, today, recommended states find those supplies on their own rather than wait for the federal government. >> erica, when you recorded that, ohio had talked about delaying it. they have now said that they are going oh to go ahead tomorrow w voting. how are hospitals in new york handling the rise in cases? >> so this is a major concern for the mayor. and today, he addressed that. he actually called this a race against time, anderson. he said they are expediting discharges. they're cancelling elective
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surgeries. bringing new facilities online and even retrofitting some facilities that have nothing to do with healthcare. he is asking for some military medical units to be brought in to help out as well and offered a very stern warning to residents of new york saying if you don't need to go to the emergency room, don't. if it is not an urgent need, you could be turned away a anderson. >> yeah, in fact, also medical professionals are saying is that if you can stock up in a reasonable way on whatever medications you need on a daily basis, that's a good idea if you can get two or three months supply. therefore, you don't have to go into the pharmacies. you don't have to keep -- keep going back and occupying time. erica, thanks very much. i am joined now by cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. dr. lena wen, who is also an emergency room physician. rose by almost a thousand in 24
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hours. not that those cases suddenly just came to -- came to -- got -- got transmitted today. last monday, the cases were somewhere just over 500. that is -- i'm -- i just want to make sure i am correct that this is just because people are being tested now more? >> i think so. i mean, we expected the numbers to go up when -- as the testing went up for sure. and one thing to keep in mind as well, anderson, you know, the timeframe exposure to the time someone actually develops -- you know, would test positive, is usually about five days on average. right? so this is a little bit behind the curve, if you will. we're catching people a few days after their exposure, on average. but, yes, i think testing is going to cause these numbers to go up some time now. >> the president said life may not turn to normal until july or august. it sounds like it's certainly going to be an incremental process. i think a lot of people are hanging onto this notion of, oh,
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this is a -- this is a 15-day period in which we're going to have to stay at home. it's a 15-day period that life is going to be interrupted in this way. the truth we really do not know how long this is going to go. >> that's exactly right. we have no idea what the trajectory of this disease is going to be. part of it depends on how we react to it. are we able to implement these social distancing measures? are hospitals able to do their part to increase capacity? we have to see how all of this goes. but i do think there was a change in tone today, again, from the president that in his press conferences, he's gotten progressively more serious. and today, for the first time, he talked about millennials and young people and it's not just young and healthy, don't worry about it. it's actually young and healthy, we need you to be part of this, too. don't gather. don't go to bars. and, in fact, you could be part of the solution because you know technology better than anyone else. >> sanjay, the cdc last night
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were recommending no gatherings more than 50 people for eight weeks. today, the white house suggesting no more than ten people. it seems at times the white house has more than ten people on that stage doing briefings at one time. these are obviously guidelines. they're not mandates. but how important is it that there are nationwide recommendations? it just seems kind of ad hoc if the cdc says it's 50 or larger. now, it's ten or larger. >> yeah. i mean, look, these numbers are a bit arbitrary, as you point out. the numbers, shifting all over the place. and, you know, ultimately, i think the goal is to get as much space, you know, the social distance between people as possible. and i think to dr. wen's point, you get the now from a strategic standpoint that instead of making all these recommendations at once because it might be too shocking maybe for the country. they're sort of -- they are slowly layering these things out. like two weeks from now, i think when i saw dr. fauci come up to
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the lecturn and talk about that, i think in two weeks we might see the recommendations become even a little bit more stringent so who knows. we are going to get through this but it's not going to be just two weeks. i think we are going to see a gradual sort of tightening of some of these recommendations. >> and, frankly, you know, gradual -- gradual not it's better to have things tighter, sooner, because the -- the -- the more -- the more -- the less chances this virus has to spread long-term, the better we will all be. >> yeah. no. it's really true. and, you know, if you are going to do these types of measures, you want to do them early because that's when you're going to have the most impact. and it's really interesting to see this play out in real time, anderson, because that is the right sort of public health thing to do. but i think, you know, we have seen this all along. there's this balance between what is the public health sort of best thing, gold standard to do, versus trying to, you know, not -- not shock country. you know, sort of coordinate
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that with the messaging overall. >> now, what's happening according to two passengers is that while a plane was just taxing for takeoff at jfk, a passenger learned that someone they had been in contact with had just tested positive for the virus. that passenger alerted a flight attendant. they immediately stopped on the tarmac and here's what the captain just announced. >> in the presence of somebody confirmed to have covid-19. no symptoms. the passenger is being questioned. the information will be supplied to the cdc. they will make a decision what becomes of this flight and the rest of us. so, at this point, all i can say is just, please, be patient while we work through this and figure out. give you the information as soon as we know it. >> so this incident sort of raises the issue about planes. and we -- we all talked about this yesterday. you know, planes right now,
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domestically are exempt from the guidelines. i mean, there is no mandatory guidelines but if there's 50 people on a plane or 20 people on a plane, that's more than the guidelines the white house says of ten people or the cdc says of 50 people. so do you think it's inevitable that domestic plane flights will stop? >> yeah, i'll take that. i think that's been something that people have sort of -- they thought that might even be announced today. they said they didn't get to there, although they don't table it either. it's still on the table in terms of a possibility. it is interesting, right? gatherings of ten people. but planes obviously have more than ten people typically. i think gatherings of ten people, people mingling with each other, having closer contact versus sitting in rows on a plane, they're making a distinction here, anderson. but we may see some increased recommendations even with regard to airline travel. one of the things they said in the -- in the actual guidelines, which i have here, is avoid
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discretionary travel. shopping trips. and social visits. so they said, you know, try to make your travel only for essential things. but, again, so just a recommendation. >> doctors, if you can just -- oh, sorry, go ahead, doctor. >> sorry. i agree, too, about the question of discretionary because i think maybe what's been happening is that so many people are saying oh, now we don't have to go to school so we are going to do play dates. we're going to do parties. that's what we should be cutting out. >> yeah. a good point. doctors, stay with us. for most of the show tonight, doctors gupta and wen will be here answering your questions about the coronavirus and how to protect yourself. something we have been doing to combat the fear and the misinformation. there's so many rumors floating out there. i literally got people coming up to me on the streets today, within three to six feet and, you know, asking me questions. and i'm certainly no expert. so we're going to keep the doctors around. we also have a live report from the white house. it was a different president trump that we saw today,
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[laughter] (vo) go national. go like a pro. see what i did there? before the break, we mentioned president trump taking a more serious tone today in terms of the state of the economy and how long this pandemic may last. he also appeared to walk back a comment he made yesterday about the coronavirus being quote under control. here's what he said yesterday, followed by what he said today. >> it's a very contagious virus. it's incredible. but it's something that we have tremendous control over. >> but you're not saying it's under control, right? >> i'm not referring to it. >> meaning coronavirus. >> yeah, you're talking about the virus. no, that's not in control for
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any place in the world. i'm not talking about the virus. >> so, actually, he said we have tremendous control. jeffrey diamond is at the white house with the possible reason for the president's new tone today. so what do you account for the tone? i mean, it's certainly different from what we heard from president trump in the last, you know, many weeks. >> it certainly is, anderson. look, we've seen this president repeatedly downplay this pandemic over the course of this outbreak. including yesterday where you saw he was saying this was totally under control. and we saw that dramatic shift in tone today, where the president really seemed to acknowledge the gravity of the situation. acknowledging how bad this virus is. and the impact that it will have an americans' daily lives. and that's why we saw him issue that guidance today to americans on what they can do to mitigate the spread. now, what i am told is that the president's shift in tone really underscored a shift among top officials inside the white house over the last couple of days. as officials saw those number of cases surging over the weekend, after the number of tests that
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were being issued and carried out were also rising. the administration really began to understand how bad this situation was. one administration official, telling me that the scale of the problem really became more apparent. and as the scale of the problem became more apparent, we saw some of the administration's top public health officials really increasingly making the case to the president's coronavirus task force that they needed to do something beyond travel restrictions. beyond what we have seen them do so far. and, instead, now, taking that top-down approach to encourage americans to really make changes to their daily lives. >> you are also hearing the president's been focused on how further restrictions could affect the economy. >> yeah, well, listen. we know that the president has been extremely concerned about the economy throughout all this. this is a re-election year, anderson, and the president knows that he needs a strong economy in order to -- to get his next four years. that is very much in question now as a result of all of this. and so the president, at times, has been spurred on by bad
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economic news. seeing that as -- as a reason to act further. but over the weekend, we are told that there were some officials who were arguing these more severe restrictions on daily life for americans, that that could really have an even worse economic impact. but the president, apparently, we are told was swayed, u ultimately, by the argument that these steps needed to be taken now. if not, the ramifications in the long-term would be more severe. >> are they considering more stricter guidelines like a national curfew? >> look. the president was asked about that today, whether he was considering some kind of national quarantine or a national lockdown of -- of some kind. the president said that, at this time, that is not something that is under consideration for him. but he did say that what he is looking at and what he is considering is targeted at specific areas. specific hotspots around the country. but we should note, anderson, that the president certainly did not rule anything out. and even as the president was issuing these guidelines that are about changing americans' daily lives for the next 15
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days, i think it was quite clear inside the white house briefing room today that all of this could be extended. you know, the president was talking about this pandemic in the united states running through july, maybe august, and perhaps even later than that according to some public health experts so it's quite clear the impact on americans' daily lives will be severe. and the president seems further prepared to take further steps beyond what we have already seen him do today. anderson. >> jeremy diamond, thanks very much. want to bring in two veterans of the obama white house. david axelrod served as senior advisor to the president. and jen, former white house communications director. what do you make of the president's -- i mean, the president that you saw today versus what we have seen over the last couple weeks? >> well, he certainly changed his tone. he seemed to be a little bit more serious today. however, having worked in the white house for eight years, the public reaction and public panic shouldn't be the trigger for you taking a serious tone for the first time. and, you know, as i've watched this over the past few weeks, i have been struck by the fact
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that the white house appears, and the president appears, to be weeks behind what public messaging needs to be. because the american people are looking to the white house. democrats. republicans. independents. for accurate information and consistent information and we are just seeing a lot of inconsistency. and having spent the last couple days at home talking with my neighbors across the street, people are confused. they don't know what to do. how long it'll last. there was more information today but i think there is still a long way for the white house to go. >> the president -- i mean, he deferred a lot more today, again, to the experts. >> yeah. you know what i found kind of astonishing about jeremy's report is that they became persuaded in the last couple of days that this is as serious as -- as it is. you know, i got secret briefings every day on television from dr. fauci and others for weeks talking about how serious this is. and i think the president's just accustomed to trying to spin these things, and you can't as we have said before, can't spin
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a pandemic. but the danger here is the solution to this. or at least the -- the -- the answer to keeping it from peaking in a way that crashes our healthcare system is to enlist the public. and you can enlist the public if you're sending mixed messages about how serious this is. they've been trying to do that. the professionals. the president has been sending the message that it isn't as serious as people are saying. and so it's good, you know, that he's arrived at this point now. but it's unfortunate that it took so long. >> i mean, what's -- i mean, i don't know if it's criminal. but in any kind of situation like this, if you look at the -- the -- the crisis in wuhan, had chinese officials acted -- local officials -- acted more expeditiously the first week, they can now trace how many lives would have been saved, how many people would not have gotten sick, if action that was taken one week, had been taken the week prior. the same will be the case here. as the president was entertaining diamond and silk and commenting on what great
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celebrities they've become and that this virus is just going to, you know, maybe miraculously disappear, you know, decisions could have been made. plans taken. you know, choices made that would have already impacted this virus. >> that's exactly right. and while different, i mean, the people in china didn't have information because the chinese government was blocking it. >> right. >> and, in this case, the united states government is sharing inaccurate -- not -- not everyone, obviously, not dr. fauci -- but the president of the united states, the person people look to at these times of crisis is sharing inconsistent, sometimes inaccurate information. and the public is hearing what they want to hear. sometimes that happens i can still go to a bar. i can still go to a vaunt arest. and that's very dangerous. >> people around the coronavirus task force seem to at least have to spend a certain percentage of their public time in front of americans, praising the president, and sort of acknowledging his great leadership. in order to kind of keep him mollified i assume. because there's no other
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explanation for to waste time in front of the american public with what you're telling -- you know, you can answer four more questions about the virus that people may have while you're wasting time talking about the president's bold, strong, you know -- >> yeah. well, this -- this is, of course, the nature of donald trump. but the frustrating thing here is, and where his limitations show so dramatically is, that this isn't about him. it's not about him. it's about us. he needs to enlist the american people, and recruit them into a shared community effort to deal with -- with this problem. and, instead, he is worried about his grades. you know, today, he said he got ten out of ten. you know -- >> quite a curve. >> yeah. that's larger than the curve we see on these -- on these -- on these charts. >> also, signing the -- you know, a printout of the stock market rise and giving it out to his friends. thank you. just ahead, i am going to talk with the governor who is taking some more moves to stop the spread of the coronavirus in his state. on top of calling out the national guard. break out the butter lobsterfest has something for every
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there is some stark examples tonight of states and localities taking steps to mitigate the virus. authorities in the san francisco area have ordered all residents to shelter in place beginning midnight local time. new jersey governor phil murphy is asking residents, all nonessential personnel to remain inside. that includes himself so he joins us now from home. the executive order you issued today. what other restrictions did you put in place? and why take that step now? >> anderson, good to be with you. we started meeting on this in
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january. we formed a whole-of-government task force, i think, on february 2nd. and we've tried to stay out ahead of this as best we could. and today is just another number of steps in that direction. although, today, there were a lot of ones. calling up the national guard. closing all schools, public and private, including higher education. closing nonessential businesses after 8:00 p.m. restaurants and bars are from 8:00 p.m., tonight, onward till further notice. eliminating eat in. they're takeout and delivery, only, as you mentioned. travel around the state between 8:00 p.m. and 5:00 a.m. every day for only essential travel. we've got to break the back of this curve. we have got to flatten it. if we do that, we take pressure off our healthcare system. while this may be painful, the alternative is a lot more painful. and -- and this is another
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series of steps we're taking in that direction. >> you've said that -- that the 8:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. order, it's not a curfew. it's a strong recommendation. do you see a circumstance where you would have to end up with a curfew? or are there other restrictions you're thinking of imposing? >> you know, we imposed a maximum of 250 people gathering in one place. we've now lowered that to 50. i made a point earlier today that no one appears to have willfully violated -- people willfully violating the travel around the state or the 50-person max. or the nonessential entities not closing at 8:00 p.m. we will take aggressive action. >> earlier today, you said new jersey is, quote, woefully short on hospital beds. how do you go about solving that problem? what else are you lacking? i mean, when it comes to medical equipment, where are you on respirators? other essential equipment?
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>> listen. we're like most states. we're short. we've been asking the federal government. had a good back and forth over the past couple weeks with the vice president. we were with the president and vice president today. our three asks are personal protective equipment. we got some of our ask from the strategic stockpile but we need more. we need boots on the ground. that's part of the reason we called up the national guard. i am happy to say fema has designated new jersey as one of its first 12 states to put boots on the ground. that will help us with drive-through testing. and, thirdly, anderson, we're going to need an enormous amount of help to get the economy back on its feet. for workers. for small businesses. for all of us. probably not unlike any other state. but the economic impact here is severe. >> for the national guard, what do you see them doing? and can you foresee a situation where, obviously, the military,
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that's not your purview. that's the federal government but the national guard setting up field hospitals whether it's for triaging and treating patients with the virus. or other concerns, perhaps not emergency concerns, that would then free up hospitals more. >> yeah. we're clearly not there yet. we've got a -- sort of a series of -- of realities in terms of hospital beds. but in an sireventuality, could see that? absolutely. national guard could play a number of roles, which could include helping deliver food to those kids whose only hot meal or best meal of the day has been heretofore through the school system. helping us on the intake, upfront side of testing. so some of these drive-through testing areas. and, to your question, repurposing closed wings of hospitals or hospitals that have been closed in their entirety or
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repurposing dormitories for potential quarantine use. so the national guard, we can envision playing a whole range of roles, as we could see our federal partners. as i mentioned, fema's going to come in specific on the testing side and that's where we probably need the help the most right now. >> just finally, you know, there's a lot of folks who are going to be in their homes who are working from home or may, you know, soon be out of work. do you have -- and -- and want to get involved. want to help other people. what advice do you have for people who want to feel like what can i do to help? there is a lot of folks who are out there wanting to be good citizens. what -- what is your advice to them? >> listen. we have got an extraordinary state and we've got as big a heart as any state in america. there is a lot of anxiety, understandably. and our job is to be straight with people. to make sure they know we're going to get through this together, as one family. to wherever we can, lessen that anxiety. and there's an incredible spirit
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of good will. and we don't -- i -- i can't read off a whole series of programs sitting right now but i promise you there's going to be lots of ways to help. but, as i say, new jersey's got as big a heart as any american state. and as long as we each do our part, and that's the important thing. all of us, including yours truly, have to do our part. as long as we do, we will get through this together and stronger than ever before. >> governor murphy. i appreciate you talking to us. and i wish you the best in these difficult times. thank you. >> thanks, anderson. >> want to turn back now to our medical experts. dr. sanjay gupta and dr. le lena wen. they are going to take your questions on the coronavirus. the doctors did precisely this during our two past town halls. we should note we are going to do another town hall this coming thursday night from 10:00 p.m. until midnight eastern. if you want to send us vid wreo questions, please, do, to cnn. let's get to the questions we have tonight. matt arnold from dallas, texas, has a question. matt, go ahead.
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>> hi, guys. just curious. has anyone, or could anyone, get reinfected after recovery from covid-19? >> great question. doctor -- doctors? sanjay. >> yeah. yeah. so you know, there was some reports of this early on that maybe some patients have recovered from -- from the coronavirus infection. and then become reinfected. you know, it doesn't seem like that's actually likely. that may have just been a problem like with the patient we talked to, anderson, who still had coronavirus in his system, what, 28 days now i think. you remember we talked to him last thursday. so it's more likely to be something like that. typically, after you develop an infection like this, it's kind of like getting vaccinated. you -- you should actually have some immunity to getting infected again. we don't know for sure but that's what should happen. >> ben sharp sent us this video question. >> it's been suggested that we
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stock up on essentials, such as food and bottled water. the food, i understand. but why bottled water? are we really expecting the water supply to be contaminated? >> it's a great question. a lot of people ask me this question. dr. wen, will you take this? >> sure. i went to the grocery store earlier today, and toilet paper and water are out. and these are not items that should be out for this type of emergency. we do tell people to have a two-week supply of water. drinking water. for all emergencies. if there is a hurricane or -- or bad weather. but there's no reason why we should believe that water will be affected for coronavirus. >> yeah. and, sanjay, you know, again, this is not -- you know, the water from your tap is not going to go out. water supply's not affected. the electrical grid is not affected. >> yeah. people typically think of this when you have a national emergency and fema's involved, you think of storms and the possibility of things going out. so maybe that's just sort of the
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reaction people typically have to go buy these types of things. but, yeah, there is no evidence that this is contaminating the water supply or that it's transmitted through water. >> this next question from eric beason in carlisle, massachusetts. eric, go ahead. >> hi. i noticed that the approach at this point is social distancing, which will level out the curve and probably defer when some of us actually get this. but as contagious as this is, i assume that we all are going to get it. it would be interesting to know that what people are actually dying is it from pneumonia or whatever? and how do we prepare, given we have a little extra time here? and if we do get it, what is our best course of action? what should we be doing as a practice to recover quickly? >> great questions, eric. sorry, sanjay. >> let me take the sort of middle question because we get this a lot. this idea of what actually is happening in the body when someone gets this infection.
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and, anderson, we created this animation to sort of give you some idea. so take a look. >> that's the coronavirus you're looking at. as it enters healthy cells, it uses the cells to make copies of itself and then the nekinfectio spreadsme spreads. it also triggers the immune system to tackle infected cells including ones in the lungs. ta battle inside the body causes inflammation and in severe cases, can lead to pneumonia, organ failure, or even septic shock. especially for high-risk people, any, or all of those can eventually lead to death. >> now, i should point out again, this is a novel virus so we are still learning things. it may not always be pneumonia that is leading to. there has been now some suggestion that this virus actually leads to some destruction of these particular lung cells that causes a situation known as ards,
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respiratory distress syndrome. so there is different things that are likely happening but that's one example, anderson. >> all right. we have to take a quick break. we'll have more of your questions and answers from our folks when we continue. everyone living in your home on april 1st counts. my aunt and uncle who live with us, count. my mom's best friend whose been living with us? she counts. my new baby sister? she counts. shape your future. start here. complete the census at 2020census.gov
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back now with our medical team. dr. sanjay gupta and dr. le lena wen. more of your questions. this is a video one from jennifer wilson in california. let's take a look. >> if someone who has covid-19 swims, can he or she transmit the virus to others in the pool? >> does this go through water in a pool, chlorine in a pool assumed? dr. wen? >> there's no evidence that covid-19 could be transmitted through water. so you're not likely to get it by swimming with somebody who is on the other side of the pool. but if that person is next to you and they're sneezing on you, then you could still get coronavirus that way, too. >> assuming they sneeze in your face. not like underwater, though. anyway. i don't know what the science of underwater sneezing is. the next -- >> can you sneeze underwater? >> well, i don't know. actually, yeah. dumb thing for me to even bring
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up. this is from -- from bobby in tennessee. let's listen. >> does the virus die after it runs its course in an infected person? or does it continue to live? and if it does, is that person still contagious? >> it's a really interesting question. sanjay? >> yeah. no. you know, i think this virus need -- needs a host. you know, and -- and -- and, in this case, we are the host. so once the host -- if the host dies, then the virus, typically, doesn't live. there are some pathogens to the person's point, which can persist after someone dies. and be -- >> like ebola. >> ebola. yeah. so during autopsies and you remember, anderson, during burials -- burials -- you have to be very careful with ebola. but i think -- and dr. wen, you correct me if i'm wrong, i think with this one, it needs a host. and -- and -- you know, when the host dies, the virus should not be able to live. >> dr. wen, do you agree? >> that's exactly right. i definitely agree.
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i think if the person is alive and they end up recovering, there is still the chance they could pass it onto somebody even if they have no symptoms. >> just a minute or two left here. what do we know now that we didn't know, sanjay and -- and -- and dr. wen, when, you know, two weeks ago when we started doing town halls on this. i mean, it seems like tonight, based on one of the answers to the questions, the notion of is somebody able to get reinfected shortly after they've already been infected? it seems like there's more clarity on that now than there was two weeks ago. >> yep. i -- i think so. i mean, we do have more clarity on some things, such as that. although, you know, there are some open questions, still. you know, for example, we said the incubation period was closer to 14 days. and, anderson, again, i was really struck by the town hall last week. dr. wen, you were there as well. gentleman says after 28 days, he is still, you know, showing positive testing, when -- when they're swabbing his nose for this coronavirus.
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28 days later. so there are things that we continue to learn. and i think with a better idea of just how contagious this is, it's measured by this thing called the r not. something people may have been reading a lot over the last month but basically how many people is likely to spread it to? and it's basically between one and three. i think 1.28 i read. so this is more contagious than flu. i think we are still figuring out exactly what the fatality ratio is. i don't think we have clear vision on that especially in this country, again, because we haven't done a lot of testing yet. i think that is going to become clearer over the next several days and weeks. >> sorry, go ahead, doctor. >> no, i was just going to say we still don't know what the actual spread of this disease in the u.s. is. now that we're doing more testing, we're seeing more cases. but we still haven't done surveillance testing to find out all the undetected cases that may be out there, too. >> yeah because we don't have enough tests, we can't do really
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good surveillance because we can't track -- we don't know all the people that have it. again, the fact that we're still talking about testing and getting tests out there is infuriating. doctors, thank you very much. of course, thanks to all who submitted questions. we could not get to all them. butour response to the town hal for the coronavirus has been hardening and a lot of people are telling us they are getting good information. we want to keep doing that. we're holding another cnn global town hall, coronavirus facts and fears this thursday 10:00 p.m. until midnight eastern time. sindh us your video questions for that. you can send them to my instagram, @andersoncooper. dm me. or anywhere at cnn. still ahead, how two children are bringing smiles to neighbors in these unsettling times through music. ♪ ♪
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a lot going on. quite a lot today. let's check in with chris, see what he's working on for "cuomo prime time." >> first, i'm going to put a little bit to the side, coop, which are these headlines about the president changing tone. the fact he is now where everybody's been for two weeks, welcome to the pandemic. not going to spend so much time on that. going to bring in my brother, obviously, the governor of new york, what the real deal is. the idea of what we need to do, you, me, everybody else, what will the states still have to handle, what does it mean? what is the need coming our way? see if we can get some straight answers from my brother. he's certainly, you know, knows the answers to the questions. then we're going to have mike chertoff, remember him? head of homeland security under bush. what does he see as the variables from a national security issue? is the economic insecurity of so many being out of work at the
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we want to leave you with a glimpse of sunlight. in the suburb of collinsville, two kids held an impromptu cello concert on porch of a 72-year-old neighbor's. she sat on the porch at a safe distance and listened as her young neighbors, a boy and girl, siblings, 6 and 9, dressed in their best, did a performance for her. listen. ♪ >> yay. yay. bravo. bravo. >> bravo, indeed. neighbors helping neighbors. we are all in this together. the news continues. let's hand it over to chris for "cuomo prime time." chris. >> all right, anderson. that was beautiful. a reminder we'll end up in a better place together. i'm chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." all these headlines, trump
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