we have a lot of local residents of jackson heights that are supporting us on our go fund me page. or also just dropping off food and groceries and money that we're just sort of replenishing the table. the whole community can benefit from this. . >> the owner of farrine bakery company in queens, new york, michael mignano. thank you so much for what you're doing. >> thank you. >> thanks for watching, everyone. our live coverage continues now with mr. christopher cuomo. wow. this is backwards. i'm doing this. >> we're in the wrong places. and my head is huge. >> we could use some good news. what that guy's doing is quite amazing. here's the bad news. i went on the air at 10:00, 5,238 now up to 6,135. in the time i've been on. 297 cases up. that's what we know so far with the weak testing that we have so far. >> testing is inadequate. the number is fake. at? point i'll show you a graph tonight that shows this wickedly

dramatic upswing in cases that makes it sound like holy cow is this thing spiking. but the whole beginning of the curve is artificial because we haven't been testing. we know this is going to happen. the cases will go up. that's why we need to do all these precautionary things. >> before you kick me out i just want to say i appreciated your conversation today. what you're doing for your kids, your floamily, your mom. you're a good man. that's all i have to say. in this crisis. >> you're a good friend. we're all doing what we can. and a big part of that is staying away from everybody else. but like that guy mignano you had on and his partner babu, in the worst of times we will see the best of people. >> and stop being jealous of your brother. he's doing a good job. take it away. >> i am so proud. i am so proud.

as long as he looks the way he does i'll never be jealous of him a day in my life. no, he's doing great. so are you. d-lemon, thank you. >> i'll see you later. >> hello, everybody. i am chris cuomo and welcome to a special midnight supersized edition of "prime time." here's the latest. don't be surprised. all 50 states are now in the corona crisis together. we knew it would be this way. we know it is spreading quickly. that's what it does. spreads like a common cold. tips like pneumonia. and we also know if people don't surrender the me to the we and stay home it will get overwhelming soon. most pressing, we know now most states don't have the capacity to treat the cases expected. they know that. what is the white house doing about it? big question. we're also going to get insight tonight from doctors who've been treating coronavirus patients. what's it like?

what are they seeing firsthand? what is the experience for people who get sick? young, old, compromised. does the government seem to get the reality they're seeing? how? how not? and help may soon be on the way economically. but when? is it nufr? is it a part of a bigger plan? my friends, we know the questions. we have to wait on the answers. but here's what we know. we either get through it together or not at all. so what do you say? let's get after it. west virginia was the lone holdout. now they are the 50th and final state to report a coronavirus case within their borders. now, what does perspective demand? of course it was going to be everywhere. it's spreading through communities. we still have a very low death toll. now, that number, we can be basically sure of. are people dying of other

complications that aren't being put in the mix? we don't have real reason to be suspicious of that. but we know the case number has to be very, very low. why? they haven't been testing. we are far beyond the point of contact tracing. it's community spread. so look, as more tests come available, what are you going to see? exponential growth in cases. why isn't that -- why aren't i more scared? first of all, this is not the plague. okay? and second of all, you know what you're going to see with these huge numbers? the huge index of recoveries. 80% is the expected percentage. and we've been seeing that. in other places and here. people get better. some are even asymptomatic. okay? now, on the other side of the country from west virginia we're having one of the most vast american experiments going under way to slow down the spread. talking about california. shelter in place.

very extreme. what does it mean? how is it being observed? nick watt has the very latest from coast to coast. >> confirmed cases now in all 50 states. more than 100 dead nationwide. unprecedented times. unprecedented measures. >> the president also has us inventorying what you all would understand as field hospitals or mash hospitals that can be deployed very quickly. >> reporter: two navy hospital ships could soon be deployed, defense officials tell cnn. >> there's a federal reserve of medical supplies, which is really our last best hope. you can't buy a ventilator, which is very important because most of these people have respiratory illnesses. we're shopping for respirators all around globe. >> reporter: federal officials warn there aren't enough gowns,

gloves, and masks stockpiled. >> we would urge construction companies to donate their inventory of n95 masks to your local hospital. >> reporter: in san francisco's bay area 7 million woke to a draconian dawn. now allowed out only for essential needs. three neighboring counties, nearly another million people, will join that lockdown tomorrow night. tuesday afternoon new york city's mayor said he might issue a similar order within 48 hours. >> new yorkers should be prepared right now for the possibility of a shelter in place order. >> reporter: new york's governor not so keen. >> i'll stay with my sister in west xhifrp don't think you can do a policy like that just in one part of the state. so i don't think it works. >> reporter: brooklyn's d.a. has stopped prosecuting low-level offense that's don't jeopardize public safety. the brooklyn nets star kevin

durant announced he's now tested positive. on tuesday while touting a $1 trillion economic stimulus plan the secretary of the treasury reportedly warned republican lawmakers that without intervention this virus could have upped the unemployment rate to a staggering 20%. nationwide a new normal continues to unfold. uber and lyft have stopped all pool and shared rides. in vegas the palazzo and the venetian now closing until at least april 1st. the airlines taking a hit. nearly a million fewer passengers in one day compared to a year ago. >> this is worse than 9/11. for the airline industry they are almost ground to a halt. >> reporter: meanwhile, amazon is hiring another 100,000 workers to meet online shopping demand. and late in the day a pretty

stunning anounsment from orange county. orange county home to nearly 3 million people, just south of los angeles. they just announced they are banning all public and private gatherings, no matter how many people are at them. they are telling everybody to stay six feet away from anybody who is not a family member. so all eyes will be on california, on orange county and on san francisco to see if people really do obey these new measures to try and keep us all apart. chris? >> all right, nick watt. thank you very much. appreciate the storytelling here, keeping us up to date. what an interesting question we're facing, huh? do you care enough about anybody else to do what you're being asked to do. i'll remind you, you see it all over the internet. a generation ago people lined up, lied up about their age, lied about their health, in order to serve this country and go aaway to tell for years to

dpiet i awor fight a world war, never knowing if they're coming home. you're being asked to sit home and sit on a couch, which most of us do any chance we get. and it's a hard call? come on. and now here's the good news. you may have some time to think about this. because we don't know what's going to happen. all we know is if we don't try we've got big trouble. don't listen to me. listen to the man at the top, dr. anthony fauci. >> it probably would be several weeks and maybe longer before we know whether we're having an effect. >> now, look, why does he have to pick his words and speculate? because the man standing next to him, also known as the president of the united states, says oh, we're counting down, it was 15 25 days, now we're at 14, then it will be 13 and we're done. i don't know why he's saying that. we don't know how long this is going to take. look at the uk. everybody says why don't we do what they're dg, get some herd immunity to this, let it just go everywhere, don't close anything

down? because of how many people they would have die. and once they started listening to science they are not doing that anymore. the whole point is to try to preserve us from pain. so what's the biggest part of our struggle? getting you and me to realize it's real, it's not political. i know trump told you it was a hoax. he was lying. he does not say that anymore. but when you see scenes like this in san francisco, this is shelter in place? this is trying to do your best? to not be around people. my next guest actually helped write the book on fighting pandemics in this country when he was secretary of hhs, health and human services. mike levitt. thank you very much. good to have you. i see that you are doing what we should be doing. you're staying put in place at home. now, first question, or let's do it a little bit as dialogue. i will play the suspicious american.

you people overplay everything. especially you guys in the public health sector. you exaggerate curves. you exaggerate things for effect. and now you're shutting down the any and you want me to hide from something that's basically a bad case of the flu. why? >> well, chris, it's because pandemics happen. they're a biologic fact. they're a part of history. and when they do they reshape the economics, politics, and sociology across the world. the problem is they happen far enough apart that one generation forgets. and we're at the place now where our generation is having this experience. and i must say i think as a culture we have the best chance in human history to avoid the catastrophe that has befallen other generations before because of the technology we have, the communications have, and the capacity to understand and to know about what is about to hit

the united states. >> so you have the can versus the should. right? or the can versus the will. you're right. we have technology to communicate information and to stay remote and yet still stay in touch. right? virtually we can still do what we want to do, even if physically we're in one place. in fact, we've worked very hard to get to this place, have we not? but then you get the will, the should. people are selfish. and we're seeing that americans are surprising ly fragile also. one person goes out to buy a lot of toilet paper, next thing you know there's none left in a lot of population centers. how do you deal with the will and generating the collective conscious ne consciousness to do this? >> part of this is human nature. we have to acknowledge that there has been skepticism about this. the problem is that anything you say before a pandemic actually happens seems alarmist. after it begins to unfold anything you said or anything that's been done seems

inadequate. and that's the phase we're in right now. there are a lot of people out shopping in line tonight who wish they'd have done it a couple weeks ago, but they are in fact beginning to comport with the rules. i think what's happening in this country is remarkable. shutting down entire sports leagues, standing aside from traditions and weddings and graduations and people coming together to do it. are they all doing it? in the sense of is anybody pleased about this? absolutely not. but we're doing a hard thing, and we need to acknowledge that this is historic and we can make a difference that's never happened in human history before. >> now, first of all, one of the reasons i was excited to have you on the show tonight is my director sent you, elie sent you a quote, and i love that quote. "anything you do before a pandemic is seen as alarmist. anything you do after a pandemic is seen as inadequate."

that is so true. and we will see that even here because we don't have enough collective buy-in. yet i'm intrigued by what you say about what we're pulling off. how are we doing? >> well, as tony fauci said, we won't know with certainty for a while. but we're entering a very crucial two-week period where we have a chance to flatten this curve. >> why two weeks? >> -- we do that. we simply are not going to have enough ventilatorventilators. we're not going to have enough capacity if we allow this virus to take the natural course that it will. we're at war with a virus, and we can only win this war collectively. but we can win it. and i think over the course of the next two weeks we're going to have to all do our part. and there's something for everyone to do. every family needs a pandemic plan. every city, county, church, college, school, businesses.

we all have a role here. the thing that's unique about a pandemic is that it is so local. >> right. >> anyone who believes that the federal government can come riding to its rescue in a pandemic will be tragically disappointed. not because -- it's just impossible for the federal government to pry it everywhere. it's uniquely a local emergency. >> understood and agreed. two quick questions. one, why two weeks? if you're in a real war and you don't know how long it takes and really your best defense is staying apart so that people who are sick resolve their case without spreading it to someone else, why two weeks? and while i agree, it can't be all about the federal government, especially not in this particular administration in terms of what they're set up to do well, but the idea of using the military and the corps of engineers to build temporary capacity seems to be a no-brainer but it's not happening.

so why two weeks and why isn't the military, specifically the corps of engineers, everywhere in the population centers where they're saying we don't have capacity, helping? >> so let's start with why two weeks. most of what with know about pandemics comes from studying the past. looking at the history of previous viruses that have terrorized the world. and one thing we know is that left to their own device there will be this spike where over the course of time it will be like a hockey stick, and it's about six weeks long if left to its own device. and it very rapidly outstrips the capacity. the beginning of that peak is a two-week period, two to three weeks, if we can keep it from spiking. that's the reason. now, in terms of the federal government, look, the federal government has a critical role here. vaccines being able to help state and local governments with money. they do have military assets that can be deployed. we have a lot of assets. and every -- it ought to be all hands on deck here.

and i think in time as this begins to be deployed it can be. one thing i will say, that when we were developing the initial pandemic plan one of the things we had to be conscious of is that we do have national defense interests going on at the same time. we -- this would be a time when a sinister enemy could attack and make things very difficult. and so we have to be doing more than one thing at a time. and that is not the only reason. i'm not suggesting that's the reason that they haven't deployed them in that way, but it is another consideration. >> secretary mike leavitt, thank you very much. appreciate the perspective. >> thank you, chris. >> let's take this discussion to a doctor who knows firsthand the capacity crisis at play. now, her perspective. she treated the very first coro coronavirus patient in america. she's now arming patients with the knowledge but also the tools to care for themselves if there

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♪ it's interesting. it's been two months since we treated the first coronavirus patient. does it feel like it's been two months? and now that we've seen more than 6,000 cases, and i keep telling you, i don't buy that number, i think it's way low, because we weren't testing. but doctors, to be sure, are fighting an uphill battle. we know there's not enough tests, we haven't been testing, which is why i don't trust the number. but more importantly we know we don't have resources even for the cases we do know and we expect. people are looking for other ways to help. one such person is dr. amy compton phillips. she actually treated that first patient and joins us now. how are you doing, doc? >> i'm doing great. thanks, chris. >> so let's deal with a couple

of different points of paranoia. first one is if you get coronavirus that's it, you're going to be lucky to make it out, it is a painful and slow demise. what have you seen in terms -- because you see online, you see how afraid young healthy people are about this. and what's the reality? >> so the reality is that 4 out of 5 people are perfectly fine. it's like they get a bad cold or they get a mild flu and they get over it and they keep going about their lives. but about 20%, which is a lot of people, get bad enough that they end up in the hospital and have to receive care there. and about 5% of those people end up actually in the icu. and so pretty severely ill. >> and then you have what we believe will be the mortality rate but within that number -- so not only do you have about 98% of the people survive this but the people that wind up in

that margin that god forbid don't you have very special traits. usually elderly or compromised. unless we screw up capacity to a place where we start having all these unintended consequences. and that's where your second area of brilliance comes in. you know capacity's not going to be met. you hear people like my brother say, the governor of new york, i can't meet it, i can't build it fast enough, i can't source it fast enough, i can't find the equipment, it's not going to happen. you found a potential solution. how some. >> so we're trying really hard to do several things. because one, we know exactly like your brother's saying, we don't have the capacity in our hospitals and we don't have the equipment to give our own caregivers, our own nurses and doctors safe and healthy. we don't have the ppe, the masks and gowns to keep people safe. so when he first started seeing this we said we've got to do something different, this is the 20th century we don't have to treat this like the spanish flu

in 2018, what can we do that's different? we're doing something different. one is if you're worried about your symptoms, we have a symptom checker, a chat bot online that you can go in and see whether or not you maybe need help. if you triage out that you need help, well, you can click on it and do actually a virtual visit. and so we can actually have a caregiver and a patient chat and see whether or not you need something more. if you need testing we can then send you for drive-thru testing. and if it seems like you have the symptoms consistent with the germ, because we don't get test results back for a while now, it's like three to four-day turnaround time, we'll actually send you home with an oxygen sensor and a thermometer and be able to monitor you from a bank of nurses watching monitors in your own home so you don't have to be admitted to the hospital. >> how many people can you watch? >> well, at the moment we're watching about 100 and we think we can do about 4,000. >> 4,000. and then if somebody gets into a place where they are severe enough to have to come in --

now, where do you see this as -- help me understand how this can change the face of dealing with the flow. >> well, so with the flow you probably wouldn't need it. but the thing that's a little different about covid-19 is that pneumonia, that you can be just tooling along doing okay and all of a sudden crash, get much worse. and the symptom of that is the increasing shortness of breath, particularly when you move around, and the way you can diagnose it just like you often don't know you have high blood pressure unless you take your blood pressure, some people don't realize their oxygen level's starting to fall unless they measure it. so that oxygen sensor can start letting people know like mm, we don't want you to fall off the cliff, we want you to come in when you're still like this but we're seeing some signs of it going downhill. >> is the software adaptable to other states or do you have a special system? >> it is something that could be

done anywhere. so it's just really setting up the infrastructure to allow for it. >> i'm going to spread the message. we're going to do it online. i know you've been doing some media but we're going to magnify it. dr. amy compton-phillips. you are someone we call an ameri-can, someone helping us figure out how to make it through. god bless and you thank you for using your brain and your skills for helping us get better. >> thank you so much, chris. >> boy oh boy, i told you, in the worst of times you're going to see the best of us come out. what an innovative idea. 4,000 people they can monitor at one time. imagine what that will do to capacity. now, it terms of measuring the effect, got to look at the markets. they bounced back. why? they like that a lot of money's going to be thrown at people in america. why? because it makes a recession less likely. why? it gets complicated. so we're going to talk to somebody who understands the economics inside out. what are we doing that will make the economy worse? what will it take for it to be better? how long between the two?

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quick thing. when i was just talking to that doctor who's spending all this time trying to figure out how to help the rest of us, she said she's starting to work with her own people in the hospital. guess on what? making their own masks. that's how short supply is. maybe we're going to have people out there who know how to do this and we're going to have to teach each other how to make masks. i'm going to find out more about it. i'm going to get you the information. you want a way to help? that's a way. now, what's another way to help? the federal government says cutting a check for every american. it's no longer a fringe idea. it's front and center because of this crisis. what would it mean? so right now there's a 1

trillion, with a t, dollar bailout on the table. that's what the treasury secretary wants. it would be bigger than any other bailout we've ever seen in american history. two, on the chart that you're going to see, came when my next guest was the director of the national economic council. okay? gene sperling, i know him very well, actually for most of my life. he used to work with my father. he went on to much bigger things as a big shot in the obama administration. gino, it's always great to see you. first of all, let's deal with the big macro on this before we get into more of the details of the plan. i don't understand, many will say, why all this money? why does this have to be so big? just don't shut things down. you guys are forcing us into a recession. >> well, because, chris, i mean, this is the unfortunate news. this is the worst pullback in economic spending and economic

activity we've seen in our lives and maybe since the great depression. and think about it. when we've had downturns before recessions, yeah, there were people hurting? people lost their jobs, some people lost their raises, some people feared they would be next. but a whole lot of other people went on spending, traveling, doing all the things. we've never seen a moment in our lives where every single person in our country is pulling back and we are just absolutely crowsing down entire shops and industries. my heart bleeds so much for the people, the waitresses, the waiters, the people in the food industry and other service industry who are just losing their job by government mandate, no fault of their own. so you've got a dramatic fall in economic activity. but as you've talked about on this show often, as you were talking about with your brother last night, you know, this is

not a market issue. this is a real economy issue affected by a health care crisis. if you don't solve the health care crisis, if you don't flatten the curve, if you don't have the type of testing that provides certainty, you know, the economic input you can put in, it can cushion the blow but it cannot solve it, it cannot give the confidence that we know where the bottom is or how long this lasts. >> the uk went away from what they were going to do, but they said look, let's go for herd immunity here. and yeah, there are going to be more casualties but you know what? that happens, it will shorten the duration, so we won't have that kind of economic pain. what about that kind of calculation? maybe the government has gone too far with this. maybe we're doing too much and we're hurting ourselves too much economically for the benefit it will do to us in terms of fighting the pandemic. >> you know, i'm going to listen to the experts on this as i think we all should. but i think we as a people have the capacity to take this on. but we need to understand, the

market did respond well to an idea that i agree with, lots of people agree with, give a payment to everybody, $1,000, $2,000. it's good for demand. it gets economic activity going. but, and i cannot express this enough -- yeah. and that's what i cannot stress enough. this is one tool. this has to be combined with a major package that goes to our -- for a health care surge, to empowering state and local leaders to deal with the problems. and i want to make one point in particular. which is if you do not target and focus on the most hard-hit americans nothing is going to work including these payments. take somebody who loses their job for 12, 16 weeks. a single payment isn't going to help them pay the rent. we need to take some dramatic efforts. unemployment insurance. right now it's got huge holes in our country. if you're a gig worker, if you're a domestic worker you often don't qualify.

when you do qualify it's going to be for a number of weeks. you get 33%, 40% of your wages. we need to now make clear it's an emergency, it's going to last as long as you need it, instead of 30%, 40%, 50% of your wages it should be more 100% of -- >> how do you pay? >> you know what? we pay for it. >> how? >> we don't worry about the deficit. you just -- the united states congress puts it out there. because if you don't spend this money now to help these people it's the right thing to do on the grounds of compassion because we love each other and we care about our neighbors, but these are the people that are hurt the most. if we help them, if we do the right thing, they're the ones that are going to spend the most. they're the ones that are going to be able to make the rent. and we have to do more. we may have to forgive student loans for a period of time. we need a moratorium on evictions. this is big. this could be the worst threat we go face for a while since the great depression. and we better be thinking big and the fullness of america of what we can do economically not

just to spur demand by sending out checks, by i think is an important tool, but by unemployment insurance. paid sick leave. expanding medicaid. housing relief. moratorium on evictions. if we don't do this type of bigger things, this needs to be part of the congressional package, and i encourage every member of congress out there. it's good you're doing the paychecks. good. but if you don't come with a broad, bold plan on unemployment insurance, on paid sick leave, on medicaid, on helping state and local governments, it's not going to be enough. >> all right. hopefully it's part of the lesson of 2008 also. you know, you shored up the markets. that was good. but there was that discussion about, well, what about the little guys? what about the people who own the house snshouses? what about what's going on with them? it seemed to be weighted in one direction. hopefully it's different. and gene, let me put a request in, make it harder for you to say no because it's national

television. but as we learn more about what they're going to do i need your help. i need you to explain it to the american people, why this makes sense, why it's worth it, why it's enough, why it's not enough. there are going to be a lot of questions because we don't even know what's going to hit us yet and that's what makes this so different. in 2008 you knew what it was. every time something happened everything was a reaction to it. this hasn't even really hit us yet in terms of the real pain that is probably weeks to come, hopefully won't be as bad as we suspect. gene sperling, thank you for putting your brain and your heart to this situation. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. look, the virus is affecting everything. it's unbelievable. it is amazing. it is fantastical. none of us can believe this is happening right now. on any level. it is bizarre. i'm with you. and it hasn't even really happened yet, and yet all these things are happening. i get it. you're going to see it in our politics also. ohio didn't vote this third super tuesday. three other states did. big wins for joe biden. but what does coronavirus mean

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all right. a quick tally on tonight. biden 3, sanders 0. the gap in florida was as big as assumed for the vice president.

on super tuesday 3, we'll call it. let's get to cnbc phil mattingly in the cnn election center. once again, i was on the wrong side of wagers about what the spread would be in florida. i didn't think it would be as big as we saw, but it was about 40 points. what's the story of the night? >> yeah, and i think that actually gets to the story of the night. it's not just that joe biden won all three contests tonight, sweeping florida, illinois and arizona. it's how he won them. and it really kind of mimics what we've seen over the course of the last three weeks. take a look at florida. as you noted the expectation was that joe biden would win florida and win florida comfortable by vy. but look at this map. look at the dark blue. that's all joe biden blue, joe biden winning every single county in the state of florida. perhaps more impressive was what he did in illinois. i want to flip back to 2016, show you how bernie sanders did. a very close race with hillary clinton. take a look at all this light blue. that's bernie sanders winning counties. not enough to actually win the state, win the primary, but doing well enough to make a mark. now flip it this time around.

bernie sanders only won one county in the state. obviously the day of vote in illinois was down because of obvious issues that are going on but it underscores how joe biden has really brought the coalition together. flip over to arizona as well. and another very big victory for joe biden. 60,000 votes ahead with about 70% reporting. i think chris when you look at tonight it's just what we've seen over the course of the last three weeks, joe biden is in a place now, the party is in a place now, the primary is in a place now where it has become his race. he's become by far the prohibitive favorite. in every single primary that we've looked at over the course of the last three weeks. has more or less borne that out. >> two new prohibitions. one, turnout. what did we see tonight? it was down a little bit, but in this mood, we don't know what it's going to be like in november. but if there is lower turnout is it easy enough to say that even if biden gets the ticket that has to help the president? >> yeah, i think that's the -- when you talk to democratic sources, when you talk to democratic campaign operatives,

that's what they're concerned about. i think you talk to trump officials and they feel like their energy, their base, they've driven turnout in places, at least in 2016, that perhaps they hadn't seen before. i think the interesting thing about tonight, particularly given everything that's going on in the country, is in two of the states, in arizona and in florida at least what we've seen so far, because of the early vote, turnout is actually up in the primary. but that's because of the early vote. and i think in illinois it's probably a better representation of where things are today, where turnout was down fairly dramatically. at least what we've seen to this point based on in person. i think the interesting thing going forward is going to be overt course of the last several weeks you've seen turnout really move up for joe biden, which wasn't the expectation. that was the bernie sanders expectation. and can that be maintained? i think the other thing we all have to wonder right now is is there going to be another primary vote anytime soon? at least one where there's in person vogt. we've already seen georgia was supposed to be the next one up. they've already moved their primary. other states have started tore move their primary as well. will this be the last night we can talk about this for the time

being? that and what bernie sanders decides to do next kind of the big questions outstanding. because we're talking about bernie sanders, look at pledged delegates right now. joe biden opening up a 300 delegate lead. think about where we were at the end of february to where we are now. joe biden has this on lock for all intents and purposes and the question now becomes what's bernie sanders going to do? >> i should be standing next to you right now, talking my head off in every commercial break about 100 different things. but i'm here because our country has changed. and what is your best sense of how coronavirus is going to shape the story of the election? >> look, i think it's anecdotal because it's arly. think of how fast things have changed. just seven days there were still sports being played in the united states of america. now everything's shut down. every city's shut down. the speed by which this has all occurred is head spinning and i think politically people are still trying to figure things out. i think one of the things when you talk to democrats, when you

talk to the biden campaign, they say this is his moment because this is who he's pledged to be. he isn't trying to remake entire systems because people in this moment of crisis don't necessarily want their entire systems remade. they want to be able to leave their house. they want to be able to go to restaurants. they want to have a guy in the office who can do it on day one. so they feel like this tracks with what joe biden's message has been. whether that ends up being the case we'll have to wait and see in the months ahead. >> it does remind me of when it was obama, and may he rest in peace mccain. and when it was a national security contest, mccain was giving obama all he could handle and he said look, i'm not an economic guy but if you want to stay safe i'm your guy. and all of a sudden it flipped to that economic crisis and the race changed. i wonder if this one plays that way as well. phil mattingly, thank you for the brilliance as always. so the government has a choice to make. and it's not only a hard choice, they don't have a lot of time to deal with it.

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