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hey everybody, i'm chris cuomo. welcome to "prime time." we have a load of breaking news for you tonight. here's the biggest headline. california has just issued an unprecedented statewide order telling all people to stay home. obvious reason: coronavirus cases are surging there. what does it mean? how will it work? you've got 40 million residents there. the big question for them will of course will how long. here in new york city cases nearly doubled overnight and there's a dire new warning that hospitals could be just two weeks away from running out of essential medical supplies. we have one of the president's top lieutenants here to address the needs and the threats and you're going to hear from the leader of the senate tonight, a cnn exclusive with mitch

mcconnell on what congress is doing for financially strapped americans. we know the problem. what are the solutions? we're a big part of it, so let's get after it. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> california governor gavin newsom ordered all 40 million residents to stay at home to slow the coronavirus spread. governor warned the white house today more than half the state's population could be infected with the virus within eight weeks. that's about 20, 25 million people. let's go to cnn's dan simon in san francisco with the very latest. we saw something like this from los angeles, mayor garcetti. he put an end date of his in april, 13th or 17th. what do we know about this? >> reporter: well, chris, one can only assume that governor

newsom received a very bleak assessment from his team this afternoon. he said that more than half of c californians could come down with the coronavirus in about ha eight weeks. think about this for a moment. you see all these people walking along this trail in san francisco. it means half of all these people did you see will come down with the virus if these estimates hold up. it makes you also wonder if this is going to expand to other states in the coming days. i want you to listen now to what governor newsom said just a short time ago. >> we direct a statewide order for people to stay at home. that directive goes into force and effect this evening, and we were confident -- we are confident -- that the people of the state of california will abide by it. >> reporter: people who are living in california and around the country who are just learning about this for the first time, i want to sort of explain what we're living with

in san francisco. so, you get a sense in terms of what life might be like for the next couple of days. so, there are a number of exemptions in place. so, you can go to the grocery store and pick up a few things. you can go to the gas station. remember your police department is still on duty. you still have your fire department. you still have public transportation. so, in some respects, life goes on. >> right. >> reporter: and you could also come outside, get some fresh air, get exercise, go for a jog. all those things still exist. >> well, we'll see whether they exist or not. we're going to have to make some sense of the order. you are standing out there in a park or whatever you are. i have the executive department state of california executive order, and let me just read through it here in real time with everybody and let's see what it means. why does it matter? california is one of your major population centers. it's more than one in ten of every americans. one in eight lives in california, so they're a window into our present and our future.

again, many of us take this kind of information about staying at home as proof that we are losing to the virus. that thinking, while it may make some sense, is completely wrong headed. we have heard from tony fauci, dr. fauci, and all the experts again and again. this is the best weapon. if you stay away from one another, you avoid a really horrible statistic which is what? four out of five cases of coronavirus are transmitted by someone who didn't know they had it, okay? now, when you look at it that way, what we're doing is buying time to build capacity and to deal with the cases and let cases that can resolve resolve on their own without spreading to anybody else who may have different compromised immunity and give our health care system a chance to cope. it is a weapon. it is not proof that we are losing. that is not semantics.

know that. so, what shape does this take? so, the beginning of the order, the governor's explaining why he has to do it. he's been told by public health and safety officials that the entire state is at risk and that it is rapidly spread, it's necessitating, updating and more stringent guidance. therefore, he says, that he's drawing on certain codes to do the following: to preserve the public health and safety. there are direct you haves consistent with the march 19, 2020 memorandum of essential critical infrastructure workers meaning this isn't going to affect everybody the psalm way. they will keep state systems up and going, okay? but everyone who is living in this state other than essential operations/employees who will be designated by the state, what does that mean? people who keep essential services, health care workers and whatever the governor and public health officials

determine must keep going, sanitation, different things you see, people who keep power in service. but otherwise, they are ordered to stay at home. at home or at their place of residence except -- and this is the key language -- except as needed to maintain continuity of operations in the federal critical infrastructure sectors as outlined. that's what i was referring to. he had to carve that out, and he did. let me look at this to see if there is an end date on this. it's infrastructure, they've identified 16 critical areas where they have to keep them up and running. that's a good sign for the residents of new york, that those will be kept intact and they'll work with staffing those situations to preserve peoples' safety as best they can while preserving the services. the supply chain must continue. californians must have access to necessities, food, prescriptions, health care. when people need to leave their

homes or places of residence whether to obtain or perform the functions above or to otherwise facilitate authorized necessary activities, they should at all times practice social distancing. so, can you go get food? yes. can you go get medicine? yes. can you do things that you must do? yes. can you do what they're doing behind dan simon right now? no. why? because you will unwittingly spread the virus even if you don't know you have it, even if you don't have symptoms. so, dan, now we go from the can to what the realities are. what is it looking like on shelves in the area where you are in san francisco? >> reporter: shelves in stores, chris, you know, when you go to the walgreens -- >> yes. >> reporter: -- the shelves are bare.

you can't get paper towels anywhere. you can't get clorox or the cleaning supplies you need. people stocked up well in advance when they had a sense this might come down. but you think about what this shutdown is going to mean for california. this is one of the largest economies in the world by its own right. and it's going to come to a grinding halt. already in san francisco all of the quote/unquote non-essential stores are already closed. you can't go to a gap or anything like that. i mean, it's just -- it's just crazy what's happening. and now you're talking about the entire state, 40 million people. what's that going to do to the state economy? >> it's going to tank it. but this is obviously a balancing test for the governor in california as it's going to be for governors all around the country. you have to figure out the only weapon against the virus is to control how many cases you get. and it is the first state to do this this way. we've seen it done here in new

york as a function of localities and suggestions and self-isolation. the mayor of new york city popped off that he was going to do it. he had to get brushed back by the governor. it gets a curfew or any type of mandatory indoor protocol like this gets very complicated. and that's why the governor of california took pains to figure out what essential services to keep going. dan, you're raising a good question and it has to be put in the right context. what's it going to do to the california economy? it's going to tank it just like every economy is going to take a big hit. the question is at what point is it worth injuring economic activity to improve the chance at long-time sustainability of health in that state? that's a call the governor had to make. he will be judged by it and we will see its effects playing out day by day, week by week. dan simon, thank you very much. reporting is also going to be

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something like this. and it is not a sign of weakness. it is a recognition by this governor that this is his greatest weapon against the virus. if we can stop it from spreading, four out of five cases of coronavirus -- i just learned this. listen to this. four out of every five people who get it got it from someone who didn't know they had it. you see why people are getting so pissed off about the spring breakers and not taking the protocol seriously? you don't even know you have it and could be spreading it. this isn't a horror movie. you can take practical steps and cut that down. it's a big call to make. it's going to have huge economic impact. what you have to balance that with is the understands of what the upside is. i can't find a date when this ends but we did find language from the governor saying this isn't going to be marshall law. this isn't going to be -- he said i don't believe the people of california need to be told

through law enforcement that it's appropriate just to home isolate to protect themselves. so, you can still go out and buy food, get essentials, but he doesn't want you socializing. he doesn't want you doing those things at least for the foreseeable future. i can't get you an end date. los angeles, the mayor had done it. there it was april 15, april 17. we're seeing that consistently. measures are somewhere in the several weeks to a month range. why? we don't know. they don't either, okay? they will say that on graphs you see that about four to six weeks you see a peaking in cases. but there are a lot of variables that go into that. for instance, another headline for you. in new york we had a doubling of cases overnight. what does that mean? well, the cases doubled, fact. but they're still not testing in any real way. are they playing catch up? do we believe this number is accurate? it can't be. they have a huge backlog of tests.

i'm going to bring you a family later on that you're going to meet that you may have read about called the fusco's, this is one of the most heartbreaking things i've heard come out of the coronavirus. their family was savaged. it's a big family, a big italian family. they've been savaged by this. they can't get test results. they have 20 of them in quarantine. we're so far behind in testing that all the numbers are lagging. you may see a little bit of uneven trend. to bring in perspective on this, dr. william shafner. doctor, thank you so much. people are so worried about what they're learning and it's so valuable to have you to put some context to it. so, first with what i just said about the cases. isn't it a fair assumption that given the lag in testing and the

relative inability to keep up with the flow of testing that any numbers we get have to be if anything on the bottom side, right? >> oh, that's absolutely right, chris. we're not testing nearly as many people as we would like to test to give us a sense of actually how many people with the infection are out there. i'm absolutely amazed that governor newsom's order, really impressed. in fact when i heard it a minute ago, i had to punch myself in the chest to get my heart started again. i never anticipated something like that would happen. here in nashville, we're actually almost there on a voluntary basis. this morning when i went into work, the traffic was less than 10% of what it normally is. there are lots of businesses closed, sports venues, entertainment facilities, bars all closed already. we're kind of doing that virtually already. >> so, let's talk about why, doctor. >> this is serious. >> it's serious. we know that now. the country's never seen anything like it. but that doesn't mean it's easy

to understand either even when explained. it's one of the biggest economies in the world. why does everybody have to stay in? why don't you just quarantine the vulnerable and the elderly and let the young work? what does this mean in terms of balancing economic impact and health? how is something like what the governor gave in california something that is commendable to you as awe physician? >> you said it absolutely right, chris, a few moments ago. it's everything we can do to dampen the expansion of this outbreak. we want to press down on the ep demic curve to spread it out so when people are sick and do need care we don't get a tsunami wave of them coming in all at once. if we spread this out, we can manage the very sick. and of course another reason is everybody no matter what the age, we're learning this, children and young adults can be spreaders. nobody wants to be a dreaded spreader. and that will spread the virus

to the most vulnerable. so, what we're trying to do is everything we can -- this is our great big cannon. this is our weapon to try to interrupt or at least profoundly reduce, i should say, tra transmission of this virus from one human being to another. >> i don't have to stay home. i'm not sick. your response? >> i think you could be a spreader. you could pick it up and send it to someone else. >> and not even know you have it. >> and not even know you have it. that is absolutely right. that's why we all have to do this together and all make our own contribution as uncomfortable and disturbing as it is for a short period of time to try to dampen this outbreak. >> let me ask you one question one step sideways, then i want to get back to you about medical equipment. do you remember -- what do you think in your life experience is the last time you've seen this country asked to do something that involves this type of

surrendering the me to the we? >> well, we've had a number of occasions where we have had other emerging infections. the 2009 influenza swine flu outbreak -- >> we didn't do anything like this. >> no, nothing like this. nothing like this. we've had an epidemic of anxiety which we currently have when hiv first came on the scene. that got everybody very, very anxious. we've had two outbreaks -- we have two outbreaks as you well know, the coronavirus outbreak and the outbreak of anxiety, both of which we're trying to deal with. >> doctor, let's do this. let me take a quick commercial here, come back, and i want to talk to you about capacity, what it means because not just beds. it's ventilators and what you know about what we have and how the richest country in the world doesn't have enough masks for people to wear, gloves. how can this be? he'll give us great context on this right after the break.

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all right. i want to bring back dr. william

schaffner. he's an infectious disease specialist and cdc adviser. you can't see, doctor, but my desk is filled with all the latest information about what we just learned about california. this is the first governor to do something like this, statewide stay at home. not marshall law. he said people don't need law enforcement to tell them to do this. he did say it was open ended. he did say 16 or 17 different areas of essential services had been identified to keep the state going. he did say that you can go out in the executive order, you can get your food, your medicine, your necessities but to keep social distancing when you do the same. you celebrate this because you say it is -- you agree with the idea that it's wrong headed to see these types of measures as proof of defeat that the virus is getting us. this is the best weapon against us. now you get to why we want to mitigate the number of cases other than common sense, less is better. our hospitals are going to be

over capacity pretty much everywhere this hits. the question is why, doctor? why doesn't the richest country in the world have enough gowns, gloves, ventilators? why? >> let me give you three quick reasons. the first is 20 or 30 years ago we decided we would not overhospitalize. when i was an intern and went to bed at night, i knew that there were always empty beds in the hospital so i would be awakened to take care of a patient who was admitted in the middle of the night. a lot of the times now, our hospitals are absolutely full. so, we have underbuilt hospital beds because they're very expensive. number two is globalization. sure, we build ventilators here and we make masks in this country. but we've outsourced a lot of that around the world. so, we didn't anticipate international turbulence influencing this. drugs, vaccines similarly.

the third reason is it's very american to have just in time ordering. we no longer have in hospitals large stocks of drugs in pharmacies, large warehouses full of these personal protective equipment. it's just in time ordering. that's what we all do because it's more efficient and less expensive. now, those seem to be good ideas, all of them some time ago. but they sure do get us in a pinch right now. >> falls into the category of seemed like a good idea at the time. then you hear more context. 2005 and as recently as a year or so ago, there was modeling done about how to handle a pandemic at the federal level. so, the idea that they had no idea like something like this could happen is not exactly true. what's your understanding of how much thinking went into doing what was right in a situation like this before it actually hit? >> well, there's been an awful

lot of pandemic planning that's gone on, and we have learned from ebola, from zika, from influenza, swine influenza back in 2009. but putting those things into place requires leadership and organization and coordination. and we don't have to go into great detail here, but it hasn't been optimal, shall we say. >> it's not time to play politics, of course although i have to tell you -- and it's not just the president. we've seen it on local levels, these false promises things are going to happen. today the president said we're fast tracking the drug through the fda. they call it trump speed which i find ironic given how slow we were to get into this situation and start fighting back. then tony fauci just before this show said there is no magic cure. we don't know about any drug that will work. there are a few we think may work. we don't know anything for sure. who's right?

fauci or the other message? >> let me just say we all in infectious diseases and public health have an enormous confidence in tony fauci. >> so, when we think about this now, what should peoples' expectations be? are we anywhere near having a drug that can cure the bad cases? >> actually, treatment i think is likely to come if everything works well sooner than a vaccine because we have a number of previously known drugs where we know a lot about their safety issues and how they work. so, we don't have to make a new drug. we're testing old known drugs in this situation. and there are plenty of patients in whom we can do clinical trials and get solid information. so, that may come forward in a matter of months. developing the vaccine will still take longer even though we're doing a full-court press on that. >> dr. schaffner, thank you so much for being with me at such

an important time. i'm sure we'll be speaking again probably often. thank you. thank you for the advice and please stay healthy. >> hang in there, chris. >> that's the medical side of it. that's the big headline. how is this playing in california? we have the mayor of los angeles, mayor garcetti going to join us after the break. he did this for los angeles and put an end date on it. he's going to give us the answer and what he makes of this much bigger move, the first of its kind in the country. all of california ordered stay at home. 40 million people. next. 5g will change business in america. t-mobile has the first and only, nationwide 5g network. and with it, you can shape the future. we've invested 30 billion dollars and built our new 5g network for businesses like yours. while some 5g signals only go a few blocks, t-mobile 5g goes for miles. no other 5g signal goes farther

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joining us now on this very big news, the first of its kind in the country, a governor saying that everybody in the state should stay home.

los angeles mayor eric garcetti joins us now. mr. mayor, you today had announced exactly this kind of measure in los angeles, only going out for essentials, otherwise staying inside. you unlike the governor put a hard out on it at april 19th though saying it was subject to extension. what is your thought about the governor taking your idea for that major city and making it the entire state? >> it was great news, chris. and thank you, by the way, for your exceptional coverage during this once, we hope, in a lifetime crisis. here in los angeles, i took that action with a heavy heart but a clear mind. the more and more i talked to people who looked at the data, looked at the trends, and looked at history, those who act slowly will be punished and those who act quickly have a chance. and i think for all of us to see a state do that -- and i spoke to the governor earlier today -- say i have your back, we have your back on this, the big city

mayors. we all are imagining that somehow it's not as bad in our city. we saw it worse in northern california. that there's a magical mode around us or maybe we're just a little bit different than some other place or our kin tricep needs to keep out those people. this is universal. it's the entire world. there's nothing that will protect us besides doing what public health professionals tell us to do which is to limit the social distance gor, go to the minimum. >> the pushback is the cost, that this tapnks the economy. this isn't the plague. this is the flu. 80% of the cases are okay. why isn't this going too far? >> i started with the premise tonight that human life is precious. if we don't start there, i don't know where we ever start. what's the price of that loved one who's battling cancer or has a pre-existing condition or parents or grandparents just because they're older are going

to have a 1 in 8 chance of dying unlike your child who may have a 1 in 10,000 chance of dying if they get it. we as human beings all believe life is precious. it's a false dichotomy, the blow to the economy of letting us let this continue to go forward, not treating this with seriousness, these companies will be under anyway. if we have all our doctors and nurses sick, they will not be able to respond to this crisis and other scenarios and we will lose lives and cripple the economy. i think it's only one choice before us and i know it's a tough one. and i think it's up to leaders right now to acknowledge the pain that people are going through, call for the federal government to help with the economic pain, make sure we treat all people equal including immigrants who might not get the federal assistance they need but pick the food we're trying to

pick, clean the buildings, drive the trucks that get us what we need and get us to the next steps from there. >> let's tick off a few practicalities here. one a lot of shelves are bare. people think there are shortages versus just restocking issues. what is your case in the city and state? is there enough to put back and it's just about the rate of people buying it or is there something bigger afoot? >> there's plenty. i went to one of the distribution centers with all the grocery store ceos and leaders this week so people could see it live. it's a stocking issue. maybe for toilet paper and paper towels a couple days away, hand sanitizer, couple weeks. don't impulse buy. buy for a week. it's going to be there next week. >> we're going to hold that thought about why they horde for one more question. then i want to get to a more philosophical question. how is this enforced? the mayor said they don't need law enforcement to tell them they're better off at home. what if they don't stay home?

how is it enforced? >> one of the questions we had a couple hours ago is this one of those if you see something, say something? i said yes, absolutely. but don't call a cop. go and tell somebody they shouldn't be doing that. then if there are cases people are blatantly violating this order, we'll visit them. when we said restaurants are closed to eating indoors, 99.9% of them closed. the press found one restaurant who said i'm not going to do this, we visited them with a police officer, it was closed down immediately. people are getting guns. they're go crazy. i'm saying crime is actually way down and generosity is way up. this is different than a riot or a public safety emergency. this is a public health emergency and we have to remember that it's on all of us to do this. but we're certainly going to deputize many city employees to walk those streets, to drive around. if we see any folks that are still open, we'll just pay them a visit and let them know this

is something they have to comply with. in the rare case someone doesn't comply, of course we can enforce that. >> it's not unusual in times of panic to see people buying guns and ammunition. it doesn't help when you have state tv saying the democrats are using coronavirus as a reason to take peoples' guns away. that's going to encourage panic activity. let's put it to the side. mayor, i want your take on one more thing. the idea of people being so afraid is understandable. the idea of people not going along with things that everyone in their country is telling them they need to do is less understandable. what do you say to the people who say i'm not doing it? i'm not sick. it's too much of a restriction. everything's going to be fine. this is overhyped. >> to be clear, everybody who feels immune, remind people there's somebody you care about. there's somebody you know who is in treatment for something or compromised in their health before this, somebody you love who's older.

you will kill them and i think it's straightforward saying that, letting people know that this is unlike a fire. you saw the heroic work of the fires out here in california last year. but the first responders aren't dressed in uniforms. they are us. we are the first responders. and the hand you shake is another one and it could kill somebody. we have to stay constant, consistent. we have to let people know there's an order and the difference between survival and not depends on you. >> heavy heart, clear head. that's a good way to put it. mayor, you know the right thing to do, but you know it's going to cost and it's going to be hard but it's about what the long term gain will be for all of us. mayor eric garcetti from los angeles, his state just the first in the country to say through the governor everybody should stay home. god bless, be safe, let us know how we can help. >> thank you. god bless you too, chris. >> be well. all right. now, who do you go to in times like this?

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especially because we don't know what's going to happen and how long it's going to take. and now you see that reality reflected in california. all 40 plus million people told to stay home. what does this mean? let's talk to this is a tall task. i wanted you on we need better lights right now. you're getting the same questions i'm getting. i can't go many places i don't have god good answers. what are we supposed to think in a time like this? >> we have one goal as a country right now. the governor of california emphasized it. mayor of l.a. emphasized it. your doctors on the show emphasize it. i believe the president needs to stress this from the white house podium and at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. we have one goal. manage ha is unavoidable and

avoid what is unmanageable. manage what is unavoidable so we can avoid what is unmanageable which is the health system gets committeely overwhelmed. i appreciate where the president wants to talk about vaccines and cures. he wants to emphasize the positive. rite now the greatest gift he can give the country is act of leadership actually would be to maybe instill a little fear in people so the would shelter in place and socially distance. so we can manage what is now unavoidable and avoid what is unmanageable. >> i want to just test one thing for a second. i want to talk about something else. it would be right it would be understandable for an over exuberance of opttism. i think him talking about this drug getting through.

he knew it wasn't true. i think for dr. fauci to go on cnn and try to clean it up. the most trusted man in america. this is what the president keeps doing he says what he thinks people want to hear. this ain't politics this isn't about a tax cut. people are freaking out about this. and pinning hopes on what they're hearing from government. i don't know that it's the time to sell snake oil. >> i don't think it is at all. that's what i'm trying fo get across through the column and this appearance. i'm trying to do it in a constructive way. thereby been enough trump bashing. i contribute after when we sit down and decide what was wrong and right. right now he has a podium like nobody else. and he needs to actually get away from the cures and vaccines. that's later. right now we have got to -- this

is climate scientists. avoid what is unmanageable and manage what is unavoiable. there's no one in the country who can get that message across better, wider and louder than him. he can start by calling the governor of florida and saying what kind of knuckle head are you close the beaches. those kids go from the beaches where they are all choked together and get on planes and go all over the country. what planet are you living on sno. >> and most are drunk. they'll have low immunity and make stupid choices. this is something i don't get. what is life going to be like after this? we'll make it through. this may take a bite out of the type of likes of which we have not seen in a couple generations. we'll make it through. where is your head in term of after? >> one thing with know about

innovation, necessity is the mother of invention. and the greatest companies were born in economic downturns. like intel and microsoft. i think you'll see a massive amount of innovation around first of all e learning. it's already been out there through companies. i think what you'll see is an explosion of it. and that could be a great thing for the country. it could deal with this huge student debt load we have. another thing i'm sure you'll see is a huge explosion in 3 d manufacturing. so we aren't dependent on the massive long supply chains when we need whether it's special face masks or need ventilators. the ability to manufacture in this country close to home, i think explosion of that too.

let me say one thing, this is not the time for a u.s. china cold war. i can't think of anything more wreckless. they are a source of capitol with need when we want to grow out of this. and manufacturing. these people can put up a hospital in a week. as their crisis winds down we may need to draw on that. at the same time a source of science. and both the president of china and united states. they both feel guilty about acting too slowly have found the perfect enemy to deplekt the guilt. it's on each other. and it's the wrong time. one of my rules of life is do you want to make a point or a difference? you want to make a point about china? this is not the time. if you want to make a difference, we should be talking to the chinese every day and leverage the manufacturing capacity.

scientific capacity. and we'll need their capitol just as we did in 2008. to stabilize the global economy. >> i give you a big amen. and i'm trying to follow it. i make a point of what the president does wrong in the situation to give him a chance to make a decision. he has too big a stage and time is too short. we need your head and heart. be safe and be healthy. and thank you for talking to the audience. >> any time. >> all right. appreciate it. breaking news. this is the biggest move from coronavirus. california. all 40 plus million stay at home. you can only go where you have to go. because coronavirus may hit half the state with cases. what does that mean? a prominent medical thor, next. (dad vo) i saw them out of the corner of my eye. just a blur when they jumped the median.

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