le. and welcome, i'm anderson cooper in new york. >> and i'm dr. sanjay gupta in atlanta and as you see we're doing what many americans are doing, social distancing. >> we're separated by distance but realize we're connected by a community, citizens that have to act in concert with each other to protect ourselves, loved ones and other citizens. we're partnering with facebook and tonight's cnn global town hall. in our first one two years ago the seats in this room were full and following the guidelines are

now empty. and we're all in separate studios tonight. we can't let those barriers however distance and difficulty prevent us from continuing to report facts about the virus, what we know and don't know. it's facts, not fear that we want to bring you in the next two hours. in partnership with facebook and instagram we're going to continue to answer the questions you've been sending in from around the country and the world. some are text, some are video, some are live, they are all things you want to know. >> bottom line is, what this outbreak won't stop is our continued reporting on it. while the seats there may be empty the town hall is going to go on and we're going to spend the next two hours talking to experts including white house task force expert dr. anthony fauci and top health official and experts in emergency medicine and mental health as well. >> and we'll check in with experts around the globe, including in china, and what may

be a source of a glimmer of hope. quarantined places like italy and spain shown their unite and support for each other and singing together from neighboring balconies. in spain at 8:00 p.m. people clap to show support for the doctors and nurses and medical professionals risking their lives every day. listen to the sound of a community clapping. [ cheers and applause ] >> happens every night all across spain, citizens applauding the bravest public servants signaling they are in this together and together they'll overcome it even in the face of a challenge that's growing by the hour.

>> reporter: health care workers are on it as financial markets loom. >> deepening because of coronavirus fears. >> eerily quiet times square. the latest reminder that life today is different and will be for sometime. >> reporter: the coronavirus is now reported in all 50 states in the u.s. with more than 13,000 positive cases according to the cdc. in this country so far, more than 150 people have died. at our last town hall one week ago, there were at least 1500 cases in 46 states. two weeks ago it was just around 200 cases. >> we have a choice to make. do we just want to keep going on with business as usual and end up being italy. >> cities and states across the country are doing their part to try to flatten the curve. restaurants, bars, shops are largely closed. the bay area in california has instituted a shelter-in-place order for more than 7 million residents. and the federal government has asked all americans to avoid gathering in groups more than ten. >> it is within all of us. how i behave affects your health.

how you behave affects my health. never have we been so dependent on each other at least in my lifetime. >> globally there are more than 200,000 cases and there have been more than 8,000 deaths according to the world health organization. though there are some signs of a slow down in china and south korea and in the u.s. the first vaccine trial has just begun. but still, experts say this isn't going away any time soon. >> the worst is just ahead for us. it is how we respond to that challenge that's going to determine what the ultimate end point is going to be. >> with that sobering assessment in mind i want to get some thoughts from sanjay. sanjay, about where you think we are. >> well, look, anderson, so much has changed even in a week since our last town hall. tonight me here in atlanta, you in new york. to keep our physical distance, and physical distance is how i think we should start describing this new reality, anderson.

it's really important. i hope we can be social and connected and not become isolated which is a real concern, even know. regardless of what you call it, anderson, there was some news that really jumped out at me this week, and that is some new data, modelling data from china that shows 4 out of 5 people who were diagnosed with the coronavirus contracted it from someone who didn't know they had it. it.' let me repeat that. 4 out of 5 people -- 80% who were diagnosed with the coronavirus -- contracted it it from someone who didn't know they had it. there is a message in there i think for all of us. we are, as i said, all dependent on each other more than ever, and more than i can certainly remember in my lifetime. and it's why we all have to behave like we have the virus. if you behave like you have the virus, it will tell you how to act throughout your day. you'll be more careful. you'll be more mindful. you'll slow down and hopefully, anderson, we'll all be a little more kind to each other as well. >> be careful, act as if you have the virus already.

>> that's right. >> sanjay, the new york mayor said we are two to three weeks of running out of supplies, masks, ventilators, breathing machines. a doctor texted all his friends who work at the hospital. he said if anybody has any masks out there, can you donate them to the hospital. we're starting to ration them out. that's terrifying. new york city and new york state have seen it ramp up. there are at least 3600 plus confirmed cases, more than 1100 of them new today. at least 22 people have died. cnn's erica hill is in times square for us now. what other options does new york city have to get supplies other than help from the federal government? >> reporter: i mean, that's the issue for so many municipalities. not just new york city. for so many hospitals. the mayor is saying today they're good for the next couple of weeks, but he is very concerned about april because their reserves, he said, will

not last and he is calling directly on the president, anderson, for some help. >> you know, erica, we've been talking about the ventilator issue for weeks now. it is very clear we don't have enough for the country. i'm curious about new york, though. what did governor cuomo have to say about the ventilators, the breathing machines specifically? >> reporter: he was addressing those directly today. he said they can locate about 5 to 6000, sanjay, but he says they need 30,000. he said he's been talking to other governors. every state is trying to buy them. the problem is they're just not there. he said he even sent people to china. what governor cuomo said is he needs this defense procurement act to go into play here because it's the federal government who can really make a difference by putting these factories and manufacturers to work making ventilators. >> erica hill, thank you very much for us. next we go to italy which surpassed china in the number of people who 0 lost their lives to the virus. two weeks ago according to the world health organization, there were 3100 cases there. 107 fatalities. this time last week more than 12,000 cases, 827 people died.

today according to italian authorities, the death toll stands at 3,400 and the case tops 41,000 with 5300 new cases reported today. cnn contributor and daily beast room bureau chief barbara nadeau joins us from the italian capital. barbara, a red cross chinese official toured italy. what did he have to say about the effectiveness of lockdown there? >> he stayed we're doing it wrong. he was so disappointed to see city buses were still moving. to see people were still out jogging. he thought the stores were open too long and he thought we just weren't locked down enough. as a result of that or external coincidence, the italian government said they are deploying the military to help with the lockdown to keep people off the streets and into their houses as the numbers rise. i think italians don't get it yet that we need to stay in the house. stay at our places. >> i hope a lot of people are paying attention to that. again, a lot of people are saying we need to learn some of the lessons you see there in italy.

the thing that strikes me is there is enormous pressure, enormous strain on the health care system there in italy. not to mention the possibility of simply being unable to seek medical care for needs outside of the virus. has that improved at all? is that just getting worse in terms of the capacity? >> no, it's getting much worse. you think if you have a ruptured appendix or break your leg or something like that, you don't know you'll be able to go to the doctor. our dentists are closed. our doctor is closed. we really have no medical care unless it's on an emergency basis. even then you're afraid or people are afraid if they go into an emergency room, that they'll contract the virus. so these are the collateral damage, the domino effect of all this. >> one of the things that is sop so scary about what the red cross official is saying -- if what italy has done thus far is still not enough, it's a real warning to folks here in the united states because there's

nothing worse than instituting half measures and everybody is supposedly staying at home, but clearly they're going out more than they should or have more access to travel than they should. and then they could be told, you know, this is for a month, and if it's not enough, it's just going to be extended even more. it's better to have it be all at once, to have it be more drastic to err on the side of being more cautious than it is to let this drag on. >> no, that's definitely right. it's time to rip off the band aid and make everybody stay at home. people are out walking their dogs. you see the same dog with four or five different people throughout the day. the grocery store is buying one banana or sack of potatoes at the time. people aren't necessarily thinking the way they need to be thinking. one of the things they do make now, everybody has to wear a mask if you go to the grocery store. if you don't they give you a piece of plastic to put over your face. everybody has to wear gloves when they're outside. they're trying to get people to think in terms of if they might be carriers even though they don't have symptoms.

>> just as sanjay said, act as if you are infected. barbie nadeau, we appreciate it. coming up next we go to china. it is reported no locally transmitted cases since the pandemic began. it is still daunting. total cases have stayed at roughly 80 to 81,000 over the last three weeks as the death toll climbed from 3,015 to 3200. david culver is in shanghai for us. david, no new locally transmitted infections reported since the pandemic began today. assuming those numbers are accurate, the data is accurate, there are questions, how are people greeting that milestone? >> reporter: anderson, we know there are a lot of questions about that. people questioning the data. but the government is our only source for that. the national health commission in particular. the world health organization relies on it and president trump has even said that as of now he has no reason to question it. he just has to accept it and move forward. it is being received obviously very positively here. it is highly promoted by state

media which interesting is hearing barbie say that folks there in italy are not taking it as seriously, i would say here people are hesitant to breathe easy. they are still very reluctant to think this thing has passed them and perhaps that is something that world health organization officials are grateful for because they say it avoids complacency. >> i guess the concern is there is going to be a resurgence of cases. we don't know the answer to that. what does the chinese government plan to do now? what are their role now? >> this is a concern, sanjay. there is concern of a second wave. they're portraying this as an external threat more than anything else. their fear is imported cases. while the locally transmitted cases has sat at zero in the past 24 hours, since the most recent reporting, they say they have seen 34 imported cases coming from other countries. what are they doing? stepping up some of the screening procedures and evaluations of people who are traveling in from all over the

world, which is a complete reversal of what we saw just a few weeks ago when everyone was fearing people traveling from china, now they're fearing folks coming from other countries. and they're putting people in a mandatory government designated quarantine facility as soon as they come in for 14 days. and also those lockdowns are still in place. it was eight weeks ago today, sanjay, that we were in wuhan and you and i were communicating throughout that period. but that's eight weekends that people have been living under this extreme lockdown. in many cases sealed inside their homes. >> david culver in shanghai. david, thanks very much. in washington the president's task force briefed members. they are promising a drug to try. there were a string of answers from the president that raised, well, in many cases more questions than anything else. joining us now a member of the task force, anthony fauci. director of the national institution of allergy and infectious diseases. thank you for joining us given your busy schedule.

what is the most important thing you want people to know tonight? >> you mentioned it just a few moments ago, the importance of people to take very seriously the guidelines about physical separation. you mentioned the idea of transmission of infection not only when someone is symptomatic, but we're getting more and more information that someone can transmit even when they're asymptomatic. so in order to protect one self, society, and particularly the vulnerable people, we've really got to adhere to the physical separation. you know them well now. avoiding crowds, stay out of bars, stay out of restaurants, stay out of places where there is a congregation of people. and particularly individuals who are elderly or individuals who have an underlying condition should essentially self-isolate themselves for the time being in order to shield themselves from what might be an innocent unintended inadvertent transmission of infection to them. that's the message i would really like to get out, particularly to the younger people who may not take it

seriously. i mean, i just think back when i was young, i kind of felt like i was invulnerable. i'll do fine. but it's not just you. it's you and society and the people that are vulnerable. so please cooperate. we're going through a very difficult unprecedented time right now. >> and, dr. fauci, we are going to talk about the specific risk to young people later. i want to ask you something about what ambassador burkes who is a coordinator for the white house coronavirus task force. she said another network about the possibility of a federal air travel shutdown. what she said was everything is on the table. i mean, is there, is that something you want to see? do you think that would be effective? >> you know, i don't know, sanjay. when dr. burkes said everything is on the table is truthful. we discuss everything in the task force. i have not heard a serious discussion about shutting down

domestic travel. might that come up the next time we start looking at this, and we look at it constantly, certainly. i think that's what dr. burkes meant by everything is on the table. there's no plan the next day or tomorrow to think about shutting down domestic air travel. >> a question about something that happened today, dr. fauci. the president said that the fda will fast track antiviral treatment for patients with coronavirus. saying that an antimalarial drug would be made available. he said that the drug would be made available almost immediately. when the public hears that, and obviously there is a lot of interest, a lot of hope in this, how much confidence should we put in that? do we know that drug would even work? as you know, fda commissioner hahn, he didn't go that far. >> no, no. so, let me put it into perspective for the viewers and perhaps we'll understand it better. there is a drug -- two drugs.

they're very similar. hydroxyclorquin. they've been used for decades for malaria as well as treatment of diseases like lupus. it's an expensive drug, it's tried and true, it's been around a long time. there's been anecdotal, not proven, anecdotal data it works when people give it to someone, it makes them better. when you have an uncontrolled trial, you can never definitively say it works. in addition, there's been some in vitro data in the test tube. you put the hydroxychloroquin in with the virus, it tends to impede the virus. it's done that with other viruses. what we said at the press conference, this is an already approved drug. so, it could be available, for example, when you use it off-label. which means somebody uses it for a purpose that it wasn't officially approved for. what the president was saying is that we're going to look at all of these drugs and we're going

to try to get them available in the context of some sort of a protocol where you just don't distribute drugs willy-nilly. you may make it more accessible than you would have previously, but you do it in the context to at least get some feel for both safety and whether it works. that was the message about the malaria drug hydroxychloroquin and chloroquin. >> the reason we ask, obviously, dr. fauci about this, constantly a balance in your job and everyone's job, this balance between hope and honesty. i mean, it was described, as you know, at the press conference as a game changer. i mean, again, how should the public interpret that sort of thing? >> you know, sanjay, i'm not so sure it was -- i mean, i was watching it on tv. i was around the corner from the conference looking on a tv. i don't think it was necessarily described as a game changer, but let's make sure people understand what it is.

today there are no proven safe and effective therapies for the coronavirus. that doesn't mean that we're not going to do everything we can to make things that have even a hint of efficacy more readily available. so long as you do it in the context of some sort of protocol that would take a look at getting some information about safety and efficacy. but there's no magic drug out there right now. >> this is anderson. i want to put it in non-doctor terms because i'm not very smart. people should not go to their doctor and say, i want chloroquin because i hear that may work. is that correct? >> yeah, that's correct. i mean, i think if you would want it -- if i wanted to use chloroquin or hydroxychloroquin, i'd try to do it in some expanded access clinical trial as opposed to just going. people are going to do it anyway. but i mean as a matter of principle to just go out and say, prescribe this for me, what

that would do would probably deplete the supplies for the people who might need it if it shows to be working. i mean, that's one of the real i think unintended consequence of everybody out there flooding, trying to get the drug. >> so, dr. fauci, mayor de blasio announced today new york city is expected to run out of medical supplies in two to three weeks. i spoke to him last night. i just want to play a bit of what he said and have you respond. >> what i'm really deeply concerned about is medical supplies and then beyond that even other basic supplies that people need in their lives. but the medical supply situation, anderson, you're talking about ventilators, surgical masks, surgical gowns, really basic stuff that we're deeply concerned about where we're going to be in a few weeks. and here's the problem. the federal government is absent in this discussion right now. >> what about that, dr. fauci? is the federal government absent in the discussion? what can the city do?

>> no. i spoke to mayor de blasio today by phone. i understand he has -- he has a significant problem that he's trying to address at the local level and is looking for some federal help. i mean, right now if you look at what's going on, there is a strategic national stockpile in which there are at least 12,700 ventilators in there, as well as tens of millions of masks. that may not be enough. so what the federal government is doing -- and it only -- it isn't just the federal government that needs to do it. it's got to be also local states, private industry and others working together with the federal government. but what's being done right now, as you may have heard, the president is tapping the department of defense to get many more ventilators into the stockpile so they'll be ready to use, as well as doing things like getting more masks. about beds, that's important.

one of the ways you can obviate the problem of beds is to do something that's been suggested strongly. to the best of your capability, put off and cancel elective surgical and medical procedures because many of those procedures, as elective as they are, they consume personal protective equipment, like masks and gowns and gloves and things like that. so if you do that, you're not going to completely solve the problem, but you'll help mitigate the problem. that's one of the things. the other thing is we have a couple of naval ships, the mercy and other ships that can be there that can then come by and one is coming to new york, and then free up beds you can put non-coronavirus patients there to free up beds. again, it isn't the absolute solution to what is a problem. i get calls all the time from my colleagues in various places saying it looks like they're running out of equipment. we've got to meet the challenge

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dr. fauci, we'll get to a question in a minute. we have some questions, though, from people who are wondering why you haven't been at the last two white house press briefings. people feel confident with what you are saying. why haven't you been there? >> the reason is i had some really important stuff i needed to do back at the n.i.h. which is my real original day job. also they want to just get different perspectives up there. i'll be on tomorrow. i'm told i'm going to be at the press conference tomorrow. but you're right, a lot of people were concerned, a, that i'm sick, that i died, or that the president is mad -- is angry with me. none of the above. i'm fine and i'll be back. i just had some important work regarding the vaccine and the drug situation that i really needed to be physically present with my team at the n.i.h., which have important things to do, and it kind of conflicted with when the press conference was.

it was really a very innocent thing. i'll be back tomorrow. >> i want to get to our viewer questions. this is sent in from facebook from sarah peterson. she asked why isn't the president practicing social distancing in the white house and during briefings? shouldn't they be leading by example? you are kind of crowded on the podium. >> you know, it's a very important point and it's really related, anderson, to the question you just asked me. one of the reasons why they decided they wanted to rotate a bit and give people with different types of expertise, like today was more of a regulatory issue with the fda and the different drugs. so they really wanted to focus mostly on the fda. and they figured rather than have everybody who is involved on the stage, they want to just socially distance a little. it wasn't exactly precise, but we're seeing that there. we're also seeing that in the situation room. as a matter of fact, we were there in the situation room and the vice-president was telling people, you know, go to one of

the outside rooms and look at it on the screen. so we're not just completely discarding that. but in order to really do the job, you kind of have to be together a bit. >> good answer, dr. fauci. you have to take care of yourself. bonnie richardson is a retiree in pennsylvania and she sent in this video. take a look. >> at what point would they ramp up testing to those who do not have symptoms so they can find out how the virus is spreading? i know right now they do not have enough tests, but wouldn't it be prudent to get enough tests to include young people without symptoms? >> what do you think, dr. fauci? >> no, it's a good point. but the issue is, as you know, we've had issues with testing. we're getting testing standing up right now much, much better than we did. the critical issue is to get the testing first to those areas where you have somebody who is, in fact, having symptoms and you want to see if they're, in fact, infected.

the idea of doing a broad screening, including asymptomatic people, is not a bad idea. i've been talking about that for a while. but when you prioritize what you need to do, we really need to get the testing to the people who are in a situation where you really need to know. the other is surveillance. it's a valid question and i am for it. but right now it's not the highest priority. >> okay. >> dr. fauci, i know you've been asked a lot of tough questions over the years and you've had people yell and scream at you. nothing we ask you isn't something you already faced in your career. when people hear all the talk about testing for the last couple weeks, all the verbs are like, we're getting it standing up, it's in the pipeline, it's been sent out. when can we stop using that kind of jargon, yes, there's testing, it works, it's there? one of the things, it frustrates people it's every week a different verbiage. >> i totally agree, anderson, completely. i feel as frustrated as anybody else.

right now that we've gotten the private sector involved, the heavy hitters who are making it, who can do the high through put, they're out there, they're telling us we're able now, not immediately, but in a very graded way, in a very steep way going to be able to have testing that is going to be available for the people who need it. walk through, drive-thru, doctor's office. this is what we're told. every time you say that, anderson, somebody calls up, i tried to get a test and i couldn't get it. does that mean it's broadly unavailable or is that just a one-off? i can tell you right now we are much, much better off than we were a couple of weeks ago. are we perfect where everybody can get what they want? obviously not. the phone calls tell us that. >> it's frustrating when people hear famous people and celebrities are getting tests and other people aren't able to. this question was sent in by carolyn brush.

let's take a look. >> hi, anderson. this is carolyn from new jersey. my question is, what if i've been self-isolating for two weeks and my son and his family are also doing the same thing? after that two-week period, will we be able to see each other? i really would love to see my grandchildren. thank you. >> dr. fauci? >> yeah, you know, is she talking about the recommendation for the 15 days from now and then reevaluate, for someone to self-isolate themselves? or is she talking about the fact she may have been exposed and she wants to -- there are two different things there. and the answer to the first one is if you're doing it like you're an elderly person or you have someone with a condition and you want to self-isolate, you do it for the time where you're in a situation where there is a risk. we may renew that after 15 days. but if you're a person who may

have been exposed and, say, i'm going to go, in 14 days i'm going to self-isolate myself. after those 14 days you don't have symptoms, you haven't been infected, you're okay at 14 days. you can go out. there are two different scenarios. we have to be careful we know we're answering the right question. >> all right. i'll take the next one here. roy wolf has a phd in water quality. he's in fullerton, california. roy, what's your question? >> why are you recommending bottled water when tap water is safe, meeting all the drinking water regulations? recommending bottled water drives panic, diminishes trust in tap water and is more costly. >> is there any issue with the water, dr. fauci? >> no, i'm very sure with due respect, i'm not sure what you question is. you drink tap water, that's fine. i drink tap water, i drink

bottled water. >> but when people are told to stock up on supplies, oftentimes they are told, not by us, but by others, get bottled water. stock up on bottled water. it does seem given that the water supply is not, from what we know, not under threat, there's no reason to hoard bottled water. >> no, no, there is not. i mean, some people for reasons they may feel or actually live in a place where the water isn't necessarily top nofrp. most of the places in the united states it is. i have no trouble. nor does my wife and family of drinking tap water. sometimes we drink bottled water. bottom line there's no problem with tap water. >> let's take a question from another one of my favorite cities. oshkosh, wisconsin. let's take a look at this. >> since we now have people who have recovered from the coronavirus, is it possible to

develop some sort of treatment using the antibodies that they developed as a response to the disease? didn't they do something along those lines with ebola? >> good question, oshkosh, wisconsin. very good question. as a matter of fact, that's exactly what we're doing. we're gearing up for a study of both convalescent serum, which is a big word to say, taking the serum from someone who is completely recovered, getting it in a way you can re-infuse it in someone else, or getting out the proteins gamma globulins as a serum and use it as a treatment and possibly prophylaxis. very good question. it's one of our top priorities. >> so you're basically saying, you're basically saying because someone's recovered, they make these antibodies and you can use those in somebody else. did that work with ebola? >> you know, as a matter of fact, it wasn't anybody from

convalescent serum who was a version of that. it was a mono clonal antibody derived from an individual who was vaccinated or whatever. you take the cells that make antibody and you make a mono clonal antibody. mono clonal means it is very specifically directed against the pathogen in question. that was ebola. and, in fact, the two treatments that showed a really good degree of success in the treatment of ebola were two mono clonal antibody preparations. >> elana in gillman, pennsylvania, has a question. elana? >> yes, thank you, anderson. dr. fauci, can you become reinfected with coronavirus once you've had it? >> right. so, that's a question that's often asked. there's no designed study that has proven that you are, quote,

protected. but if this virus -- and i have every reason to believe that it will -- acts like any other virus that we've had any experience with, once you get infected and recover from that infection, your body will mount a response that will protect you from re-exposure and re-challenge with that exact virus. now, there may be other types of coronaviruses that you may not be immune to. but if you get infected with the novel coronavirus that we're talking about tonight, and you recover, you can be pretty certain that you're protected against re-infection. >> you sort of addressed this. just how confident are you in this, dr. fauci? i know we don't know, but it seems like such a fundamental question if people could get reinfected again. that would change a lot of things. how confident are you that you do get some protection after you've been infected?

>> you know, there's different degrees of confidence, sanjay. there's confidence based on absolute data and there is confidence based on a projection from what you know indirectly. we don't have a study in which we have definitively proven that when you recover, if you get re-exposed you are protected. i've been dealing with viruses my entire professional life. and in the viruses which you get infected and you get a complete response where you clear the virus, that you can be protected. the duration of the protection varies. it might be lifetime. i can tell you if you get infected with measles, it is highly likely you are protected for life from reexposure to measles. highly likely. maybe a little bit less depending on where you live. other viruses we have less experience. projecting viruses, i would say

there is a good chance you're protected. >> dr. fauci, we have to let you go. i've had a couple people come up to me they say they believe this is media exaggeration. there is some political reason why the government is doing this or talking about this. they say the death toll doesn't look anything worse than a flu. what do you say to those people? i'm not sure you can rationalize with them, but what can you say? >> well, all they need to do is look at what happened in china and take a look at what's going on in italy. i had the opportunity multiple times to call my friends and colleagues who, as i mention, many of them trained here in the united states, some in my own laboratory over the years. and if you hear the pain in their voice about what's going on there, we'd take it really seriously. >> dr. fauci, appreciate all you're doing. thank you. just ahead we'll talk about

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of the hardest hit regions in the united states, washington state. when he's not offering his body for science works in technology. we're thankful for what he's willing to do. welcome neil browning, the second person in the trial to receive the vaccine. neil, you're healthy. you haven't been infected with coronavirus. how did you decide to participate? >> completely through happenstance. a series of events unfolded where the offer came up and i accepted it. i feel like it's all of our duty to do what we can to help the world recover from this pandemic. >> that's great. neil, so, the way this works is you got one dose of the vaccine so far. ask one thing about this vaccine, it's not a dead or weakened version of the virus. so i'm curious, were you counseled that you might actually get the infection? and how did you feel after getting it? >> it was much less invasive than a normal vaccine i had.

pretty much no pain, no swelling, no discoloration, i feel completely normal now. the only way i would actually be able to contract covid-19 right now is to be exposed to someone who has it and be contagious. there's no way i can get it from the way the vaccine works. >> what is the process moving forward? do you have to isolate yourself so you aren't exposed to somebody else? how does this work? >> yes, i'm certain there would be complications were i to contract covid under the vaccine study the it would compromise the way this is working. i'm exercising social distancing, washing my hands, self-quarantining myself to the house. that way i'm not exposed to anyone who is likely to infect me. moving forward i have to go back to the research facility once a week and have a blood draw. after the first four weeks from the initial vaccine, i'll be given a second dose and go through another weekly regimen of doing blood draws to analyze the way my body is reacting to the vaccine and hopefully creating the antibodies to fight

things off. >> and do you know how long this is going to take? it's a question on everyone's mind. i don't know if they told you a time line or something for the results of the trial. >> no, they weren't given any guidance on the results of the trial. i'm certain when they compile all the data from all 45 members taking particular in it, they will be able to release the report. for right now, the idea is the initial vaccination should cause immuno response in my body. they're doing blood draws weekly to verify that. the second dose is to simulate if i were actually being infected by it and how quickly my body recognizes the covid-19 proteins, reacts to them and fights them off. >> neil browning, i appreciate you doing what you are doing because it can benefit a whole lot of people moving forward. thank you so much. a brave thing to do. joining us now is dr. celine,

clinical analyst, infectious diseases at nyu medical school. also richard quest, "quest means business." dr. sanjay gupta is with us still. what do you make of what neil browning shared about the vaccine trials? >> it's the beginning of research on vaccines. these are candidate experimental vaccines. we don't know if they work yet, if they're safe yet. there is a whole process determining whether a vaccine is safe and effective. there is phase one, which is small numbers of people which is what he's participating in, which is really to figure out are there any severe side effects and maybe are there immune responses. and you have the phase two which is the larger study where you're looking more specifically at immune responses, antibody responses. and phase three which is a large number of people, those studies are done over the course of

months and you're really trying to look at people who get the vaccine, people who don't get the vaccine, and among those who get it do you see lower rates of infection. but that means it needs to be done in the context of community transmission, among people at risk and that's not going to happen overnight. that takes time. so it's a process. and when dr. fauci estimates we're looking at 18 months for a proven vaccine, that's really fast if we can achieve that. >> let's get to questions. sophia scully is a communications executive. she sent in a question for us. let's take a look. is that a video question? no, i'll read it -- here it is. >> who is either ill with the virus or not aware they have the virus comes in contact with the food or the packaging, is it then possible that i can contract the virus through that food or the packaging? >> what about that? >> it's interesting.

so, first of all, you're not going to get it from the food that you're eating. this isn't one of those types of viruses. this is a respiratory virus. we've been ordering food out as well. i'm curious, celine, if you've been doing that. what we've basically done is we've received food. we'll try to take out some of the packaging on the porch even when we're out there. when we come in, we wipe any surfaces, the remaining packaging is on and obviously wash our hands. keeping in mind it's hand touching and then hands to face. that's how we've sort of approached it. it seems to have worked. i feel pretty good about it. >> dr. yander? >> i would agree with that. i think the highest risk moment in food delivered to you is face to face interaction if you have one with the delivery person. ideally you would be able to pay them online, tip them online, whatever platform you're using for ordering food and have them leave it outside your door, wait till they leave and then get the food. i would do exactly what sanjay recommended. >> the research director at an

entertainment company in los angeles, what's your question? >> hi, thanks so much for this opportunity. with these stressful and uncertain times, seems even more important to be mindful of our physical and mental well-being. the nature being physically active and getting fresh air is a great way to stay healthy. my question is are we being advised to stay away from local, state and national parks and beaches at this time as well? i want to still be able to enjoy the outdoors but do so responsibly. >> we hear this a lot. sanjay? >> yeah. look, i mean there's no reason why you can't go outside. that's one of those things where you talk about the social or physical distancing as i like to call it. you've just got to maintain that if you're outside as well. and if you're exercising, riding a bike or something like that, make sure you're wiping surfaces and still practicing good

hygiene. as anderson and i have been saying in some ways you have to behave like you have the virus. i think that helps dictate your actions. no reason you can't be outside. >> alli is a software engineer. let's take a look. >> hi, my question is concerning grocery shopping. should we disinfectant our groceries after removing from the plastic bag knowing people pick up different items like fruits, vegetables, cans and so on. is white vinegar spray a solution and what about plastic bottle and cans? >> dr. yander? >> yeah, i would suggest wiping down the external surfaces of canned or wrapped foods. you should be washing your fruits and vegetables, produce anyway. soap and water is just fine for

that. but, you know, again, i think making sure you sanitize your hands, wash your hands after you do all that, after you unpack your groceries is also a key step here. >> this is not just a crisis for the medical community. there's also the economic impact this is having. i want to bring in richard quest to shed some light on what's going on. the ripple effect of this is they are huge. they're only getting bigger whether it's large businesses, small business owners have a ton of questions about do they have to pay their rent? can they get loans? it's a mess. >> think of it this way the chance -- yes, of course thousands of americans will catch this virus. we're seeing the numbers already, but the majority will not. the majority of people will not actually get this virus if they follow the good advice. however, just about everybody watching tonight is going to be impacted in some way economically. it'll be because they're laid off, because their business has

failed, because they have to seek food stamps or help with the rent, credit card debt could be rising. so the understanding of the economic position on why the government, why the treasury, why the fed has thrown so much money at it so quickly gives you a good idea, but it won't be enough, anderson. there's going to be have to be many, many more billions if not trillions of dollars put forward by the fed, by the treasury before this is even going to be alleviated. >> a manager in the hospitality industry. what's your question? >> hi, my question is actually is there going to be a plan in place for all of those people that have already lost their immediate income as their shift to shift based tip workers not just check to check? also, will there be any kind of financial forgiveness for not just rent and mortgage but car insurance and car payments and

things of that nature for basic cost of living because all of us that work in the service industry we base our shifts off a.m. and p.m. not the checks that i get. >> yeah, a great question. richard? >> it's a brilliant question bearing in mind the number of people affected. we don't know is the short answer. first of all, you do have the two checks that will be coming from the federal government. but as anybody can see that is at best a stop gap measure. it won't pay the rent for one month in many parts of the country. the reality is the banks and credit card companies are saying get in touch if you have financial difficulties, but we do not know yet because we haven't seen the policies of what they're going to do to actually help you. for instance, here in new york city all the major landlords, the companies of the major landlords have agreed there will be no evictions for the next 90 days for rent arrears. but we haven't seen any form of formalized arrangement that will actually put money in peoples pockets or give that sort of relief. >> thanks so much.

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and welcome back. you're watching a cnn facebook global town hall. i'm anderson cooper along with dr. sanjay gupta. in this hour we're going to be joined by a top expert of the world health organization going to be answering your questions. also shawn penn talks about what it's like to do relief and what kind of a role the military might end up playing in this? what are they capable of? what do they do better than anyone else? also we'll be taking questions from facebook and instagram from mental health professional who's joining us as well. but we want to begin on the one hand deserted cities, on the other people still crowding to spring break hot spots doing frankly just the opposite everyone recommends. there's also breaking news, los angeles county now joining san

francisco in ordering people to stay at home. 10 million more people being told now to shelter in place. sanjay, that's obviously a very big move for los angeles. >> yeah, and i think people have to understand, though, what it means. shelter in place, anderson, you and i have heard that term. many of the stories we've covered, shootings and sometimes even storms. but, you know, shelter in place means typically you stay where you are and yet it's unclear i think to a lot of people exactly what they're still able to do, and so i help that gets clarified and defined a little more precisely. >> is it okay to go out -- i think we talked about this a bit in the first hour, to go out for a run, go out for a walk as long as you remain distant. it's not the act of going outside that's the problem, it's being around other people, is that correct? >> correct, yes. and that's an important point that you still can go outside. i think what i struggle with and