francisco in ordering people to stay at home. 10 million more people being told now to shelter in place. sanjay, that's obviously a very big move for los angeles. >> yeah, and i think people have to understand, though, what it means. shelter in place, anderson, you and i have heard that term. many of the stories we've covered, shootings and sometimes even storms. but, you know, shelter in place means typically you stay where you are and yet it's unclear i think to a lot of people exactly what they're still able to do, and so i help that gets clarified and defined a little more precisely. >> is it okay to go out -- i think we talked about this a bit in the first hour, to go out for a run, go out for a walk as long as you remain distant. it's not the act of going outside that's the problem, it's being around other people, is that correct? >> correct, yes. and that's an important point that you still can go outside. i think what i struggle with and

i think i've heard a lot of other people, is shelter in place really the right terminology for this, if you still can go outside, which you should be able to go outside. maybe there's a different term. and we're all learning together. this is brand new thing we're face, so i think, you know, how you define things and you you name things is going to matter so it really settles in for people. >> again, more than half of all californians now under we'll call it stay at home orders for now. we'll check in with cnn's dan simon in san francisco where the stay at home orders first began. so explain, dan, how it works in the bay area. what have people been told? and what are people actually doing? >> reporter: hi, anderson. first of all we're along the shoreline in san francisco. you can see the golden gate bridge behind me. but what police are looking for is they want voluntary compliance. and i have to tell you for the most part they're getting it. when you drive around to go to some of these high volume areas, high volume shopping areas you typically see the streets are

empty. that said there are plenty of exceptions. for example, people can go to the grocery store, go to the gas stations and also they can come outside and get some fresh air and come to the beach and get a little exercise and toss the football around or just take in the sunset. so that is the situation here. as you talked about it this whole term, shelter in place, it is a little bit of a misnomer because you think about hunkering down during an active shooter situation or you think about a tornado approaching, you know, a city. so in this case that word, that term really does not apply because you see so many people out really taking in the sight this evening in san francisco. >> and i'm glad people are obviously heeding this. are they told a sense of how long this is going to last for them, dan? >> reporter: well, right now the order is in place until april 7th, but this afternoon you heard governor gavin newsom saying that more than half of

californians could come down with the coronavirus in eight weeks. eight weeks. so, you know, when you look around and think about that for a second. more than, you know, half of the people you see around here could get the virus. so they're saying april 7th, but when you think about those numbers you have to think they're going to extend that well beyond april 7th. >> dan, thanks very much. now, the opposite of just about everything you see in california being played out on the beaches across the southeast as people have a good time on spring break. earlier today the mayor of miami, florida, urged people to shelter in place and florida's governor told people to stay off the beaches, saying, quote, spring break is done. however, he did not close those beaches. gary tuchman is there. gary, we reported a bit on this last night. the situation on the beaches, what does it look like now where you are and elsewhere? >> reporter: anderson, spring break is not done here in georgia beach towns.

we're on st. siman's island an absolutely beautiful spectacular place, a very popular spring break destination every year including now in 2020 because the governor of the state has not mandated any closings at restaurants, bars or beaches. so the bars, the restaurants still open tonight. the major partying will take place after 10:00, 11:00 tonight, and the beaches are crowded. when you get to the parking lot today completely full. you go on the beach, very crowded. now, some people are making a point to try to find empty areas in the beach and sit separate from each other. but they're in a minority. most of the college students -- there are also families, children and i saw many people in their 70s and 80s are sitting close together, 5, 7, 9, 11 people. a couple of them said the exact same things president trump recently said, they felt this would wash over, they felt this was like the flu. if you have a teenager, you know

you feel invincible and a lot of them said it's a new virus, i've had viruses before, i'll be okay. then we asked questions about morality and we said what if you get it and you go home and your parents or your great-grandparents are home and you get them sick? and a lot of the young people and some are yelling at us right now -- please be quiet. thank you, we're on tv right now. a lot of these people said they started thinking about it after we told them grandparents, parents could get sick. and one young lady we're talking to she then told me i live with my grandmother and she started thinking about it, too. while we're on the beach 80 degrees and sunny today. but with the waves coming and sands beautiful it was easy to forget about coronavirus. but as we walked off into the parking lot it was like waking up from a good dream. >> it's a bad dream for all of us watching that.

joining us now is dr. mike ryan, director of the health emergencies program. dr. ryan, first of all when you see the report, people in america not heeding the warnings about social distancing, hanging out on beaches, going to bars there in georgia, i'm sure it's not just happening here but other parts of the world. >> yes. we've seen similar situations elsewhere. but i think as said earlier on this program we really do need people to cooperate, to see beyond themselves, to see the others in society that are vulnerable and take responsible action. it doesn't matter where we are in the world, we have to be responsible for the health of ourselves and more importantly for the health of others. >> dr. ryan, a pleasure to speak to you. i'm sure you've been following some of the events here in the united states.

at a white house presser earlier this week president trump said that the united states was not offered the test for coronavirus. and also said it was, quote, a bad test. i wonder if you can clarify these points. did the w.h.o. ever offer a test to the united states? >> w.h.o. develops the test to support companies of weaker health systems. the united states is a fabulous system, wonderful capacity to develop tests and whilst developing those tests under the leadership of the cdc. so, no, we did not offer the tests -- obviously we would have responded. >> and what about this issue of -- so what about this issue about how good the test is? i mean the implication was the w.h.o. developed these tests but they had a high false positive rate. listen for a second what ambassador burkes said. >> quality testing for our

american people is paramount to us. it doesn't help to put out a test where 50% or 47% are false positives. >> i mean, that's kind of incredible. i mean if you have a 50% false positive, dr. ryan, seems like it's no better than flipping a coin. how good is the test? >> i think the comments at the time and i followed the press conference were taken out of context because she's also referring to the w.h.o. test at that moment. they were talking about the u.s. tests and how careful the fda had to be in ensuring the tests went out to the population. it was only after that point regarding the w.h.o. test. the w.h.o. test has been validated in independent records, labs and we've seen that test performed extremely well in the field in multiple countries. we've distributed more than

1.5nillion tests to 120 countries around the world. and that test is performing extremely well and has been validated and continues to perform well in the field. >> for the first time china reported no new cases of the virus. how confident are you in those numbers and their data, and if it's true how significant is that? >> absolutely no reason to doubt the chinese numbers. and now in wuhan and hubei province and the chinese have put an amazing effort in. they've focused on public health measures and focused on physical distance and focused on community education. they've focused in some cases on movement restriction. these are strategies flagged by everyone in the world right now.

the chinese obviously had the disease before anyone else did and they've had more time to make those measures work. in fact, most cases that are recording in china now as the result of importations from other countries, and that's what china faces now is the possibility of the disease receding in china from outside china. >> so that is good news, obviously. a lot of people are looking to these other countries to figure out what's going to happen here. but at the same time as you know, dr. ryan, sadly italy surpassed china's death toll now. china is a country of more than 1.3 billion. italy a country of around 63 million, so how concerning is that what's happening in italy? >> i think it is very concerning. obviously it isn't further down the track than other countries. they were taken by surprise by

what happened as has been the case in the number of countries. they also have an older population, and they have to deal with an escalating epidemic and surely the health system there is under tremendous pressure. we have to commend the front line doctors and nurses and communities standing fast assuming the solidarity needed to push this virus back. but i think other countries really, really need to step up and learn the lessons that are being learned in italy right now. we have to push this virus back. it's not just enough to do social distancing. it's good to have that, it's great to separate people, but we have to be able to go after the virus. we have to be able to suppress the virus not just see it pass over and stress our health systems all over the world. >> when you say it's not just social distancing, for instance in the united states what more needs to be done? are you talking about contact

tracing? >> yeah, each country has its own set of challenges. you have the finest public health system and the finest public health servants in the world and talking earlier about the ebola treatments. most of the world has based the public health architecture that has been developed in the u.s. the issue now looking at the united states, you've got 50 states. you've got a different situation in each of those states. and you need to taylor the responses in each of those states. and i you've got a chance you need to go after the virus. and contract tracing and isolation of cases is still a strategy that can be used. and i know that strategy is being used in the u.s. it's a mixture of strategies. it's a daily process of adapting those strategies and the u.s. is a sound nation with very sound

leadership and it has the capacity to fight. >> one of the problems with contact tracing here in the u.s., though, because of the holdups whatever you want to call it with the test, the lack of tests still out there, if you don't test people, you don't know their positive. therefore, they may be positive and you don't have time to contact trace them because you don't know they have it. so you're missing that opportunity. >> yes, so i think, again, tony mentioned earlier how the u.s. scaled up its capacity to test, and it's really important we identify all confirm cases. we need to test suspect cases. we need those cases to be isolated, and it is difficult in a very intense environment. it's difficult to do the kind of detailed contact tracing. in ebola at the peak of the outbreak we were tracing 25,000 contacts a day in the middle of a war zone. it is possible to do contact tracing even under the most difficult circumstances, but it

does require a real scaleup in public health capacity. and where that can be done and the virus can be pushed back, we can save lives. >> doctor, our will ripley, correspondent for cnn is in tokyo and i know he has a question for you. will, go ahead. >> reporter: hey, thanks, anderson. dr. ryan, in less than an hour the olympic torch is going to by arriving here in japan. and officials continue to insist they're moving forward to host the olympics on schedule at the end of july. they point to the relatively low number of confirmed infections here. it's around 900 for country of 25 million people. pointing to that low infection rate. but the thing is here in japan they're testing a tiny fraction of what they're testing in other countries. the latest numbers we got from the health ministry on tuesday indicated japan tested around 15,000 people.

south korea is testing around 50,000 people a day. can the world feel confident given, you know, we're seeing such limited testing here? >> dr. ryan? >> yeah, i mean your numbers are correct. that 13,000 tests if you look at testing per million around the world. the u.k. has tested 450 per million whereas that's ten-times that in korea and japan and somewhere in between. and so from that perspective we spoke with our japanese colleagues today online and they really have worked very hard on identifying clusters of disease and really working hard on contact tracing and isolating those contacts and quarantining those contacts. so i have no reason to believe they're not making progress in japan.

and the olympics is a major global event. and i think japan still has hope the olympics will happen, but that is going to be based on a risk management decision. and obviously the government of japan will not make a decision to go ahead if there is danger to athletes, danger to spectators. and a lot of that will depend on how the disease evolves in the coming few weeks. >> dr. ryan, i want to thank you very much for joining us. i know how busy you are, and want to thank will ripley as well. sanjay, this a question sent into facebook via facebook and i want to read this. it says how long does the virus stay in the system? a study stated up to 37 days a patient can still shed the virus. is that accurate? i think that was kind of like an outlier. but explain. >> look, we are still collecting data. we interviewed i think it was carl last week at a town hall

and i don't know how many days total he was getting tested every other day. what you hear from most people and dr. fauci repeated this earlier is up to 14 days the quarantine time period is based on the fact where they think most people will no longer be shedding virus at that point. but clearly -- by the way, the typical amount is around five days. but clearly there are some outliers and that's going to affect how we think about quarantines and contact tracing, which you were bringing up earlier, anderson. >> it is -- i talked to dr. fauci about this, and i don't want to kind of relitigate the past, but the failure of testing in this is extraordinary. you hear dr. ryan talking about, you know, america has the greatest health -- you know, health care and public health system and yet they're still talking about, well, they're efforting those tests and efforting is not a verb.

>> i know. i think will was obviously giving some really important data about japan as an example as well. and look, i'm not quite sure, you know, how to think about this, but i think the idea that obviously, again, there's this balance between wanting to do the public health sort of job here but also not wanting to alarm people. so, you know, would you run tests, for example, in japan because you really don't want to jeopardize the olympics. you don't want to sort of alarm people. it's not the right answer, obviously, anderson, to do that. but these are countries that can test. they've obviously had examples around the world of countries are testing. so you have to ask what happened here and what happened in japan? was it just failures, or is there undertesting for some particular reason? it's going to be interesting to see when we look back on this in the next several days or weeks. coming up i talked to bill de blasio last night.

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with the pentagon preparing to deploy another navy hospital ship the military is clearly contributing to the relief effort and may in fact contribute more. new york city mayor's bill de blasio says he wants the military to deploy hospitals in new york city and a hospital ship is preparing to leave. what more, though, can we expect? one answer might be to look back at the u.s. military role and try to help another crisis, the military 2010 earthquake in haiti coordinating helping get tens of thousands of people food and medical care and ultimately back in their homes in some cases. sean one of the largest if not the largest displacement camps in port-au-prince and got a close up look how they operate. sean, it's good to see you. you worked closely with the military. i know you kept in touch with

the military officials that you worked with closely there. what kinds of things does the military do really well in these kind of situations? >> well, in the instance of the haiti earthquake the commanding control was out of southern command, south florida. we had direct coordination with them with the pentagon and with the state department and of course ultimately with the white house. and the actions that were taken we had 22,000 troops deployed immediately into haiti. there were the army corps of engineer. we had extraordinary amount of help from them deploying doctors all over the country from the military and the 82nd airborne

in particular bringing access to helicopter and the rest of their horsepower, the ability to secure locations for food distributions, to create safe zones for that to happen. and also to create safe quarters for doctors when there are social disruption in the street and emergencies for the doctors to be deployed to. and what i have been feeling out of that experience last month is that this was a certain time with the command control for probably or most logically out of northern command for colorado springs, that if that was the center for control where they

have direct coordination with fema, with the cdc and then with the governors of the state and with the state's own coordination offices, many of which are already activated without the united states military's force intervention. we have been left to this kind of chaos. i've said it many times. there is no greater humanitarian force on the planet than the united states military. they have logistical skills, their commitment to service, their care for the people. of course theirs is a nonfighting mission as it would be here with the exception of the virus we're all fighting as one species against. and i think that it's -- any little activity that's happened has happened far too late. but it's really time to give the military the fuel breadth and control of this operation. >> sean, along those lines one of the big differences i guess

obviously with the coronavirus compared to haiti is that we know it's coming unlike an earthquake. and that happens obviously without any kind of warning. so when you add that into the equation, what kinds of things should be happening right now before things get even worse? >> well, you know, we are seeing things dribble out. things like the defense production act being deployed. this is something most certainly -- i could talk quite a bit about what should have been done. now the lives lost that have been lost, the amount of people that are sick, clearly what we have to do and what the military does so well in terms of coordination, coordinating with health professional, coordinating with hospitals, building hospitals -- they can build a hospital in 25 minutes. and i'm talking when you have the "uss comfort" deployed we had many people evacuated to it in haiti. in this case it's a showpiece for all the 1,000 people that

will be a fraction of what's necessary overall. there in haiti it was an essential trauma center. but that in itself is really not what we're talking about. we are talking about a full deployment where then, of course, governors of the states will and can elect to put their national guard and support of that commanding control. >> it does seem there is deploying the military inside the united states is obviously something that is very rare -- is a very rare thing. national guard would normally be the first -- the first ones to be deployed. we've seen some of it certainly here in new york, in new rochelle. is the national guard, their capabilities that much different than what the military would be able to bear right away? i assume it is. >> absolutely.

there are very experienced soldiers and serious officers who have either previously been in the military or who did their careers in the national guard. and i don't want to dismiss any. i think they would be the first to say that the kind of perishable skill aspect to it that which has to do with maintaining a calm focused mission, which we saw so important in haiti where there was so much desperation because people become extremely desperate and also they're in great pain suffering losses or sickness in their families or separation from their families, in this case. so i think when you have a massive logistical force with that kind of training, with those kind of resources available which far exceed the national guard, we have to understand, you know, i know that it would also be of some concern to people that the

administration might exploit the use of the military in some ways. this is not even a question for me. i don't think that there's anything but that this -- it should be our job, your jobs as journalists, our jobs as citizens to watch for that and hold the feet to the fire of the policy of which the military is used. but there can be no argument about, oh, it's going to become a police state and so on and so forth. these people understand america and what it's about. most of these soldiers that i burked with in haiti, and they would be -- i wouldn't be like be for -- i would have put the command and control in their

hands a month ago today. >> i also know you founded this disaster relief group fund called core. do you have plans specifically with this going forward? >> well, yes, of course. in terms of california i've been in touch with governor newsom, and i expect that we will coordinate. and north carolina, savannah, georgia, we have an ongoing program with the tribe there. and so we're managing some food distributions and so on and in particular to the elderly in that area. in haiti we have so far not a test positive, so our staff there in the schools is educating kids and setting up wash stations and preventative measures. in the bahamas one of the issues that -- the greatest issue

that's hitting the bahamas right now is the economic ones. of course, tourism is at a standstill. so it remains to be seen whether we're going to have a problem there. and then in nashville, tennessee, after the storms there there were roofs lost and we were preparing upwards of 1,000 roofs which has been a bit hindered of course by the outbreak. >> well, sean, it's good to talk to you. difficult time and i appreciate hearing your thoughts on the military and national guard. we'll talk to you again. thanks so much. >> thanks very much both of you. thank you. coming up just ahead more of your questions how to manage the fear and stress of worrying about your health and the ones you love. we'll be right back. ♪

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welcome back to tonight's cnn facebook town hall. we want to take a moment to discuss the psychological impact of a virus. it's made close contact and the comfort it can bring out of the question. >> you know, coping with the stress of a disease or even the threat of it, that's an important part how one fights illness itself. the question, though, how to do that especially with children. so joining us is psychologist and author dr. gretchen -- >> you and i spoke last week after i read a piece that you wrote, and it really talks so

much about how at times the need for selflessness is so important. and some of things you say really resonate we talk about citizenship and the importance of community. can you talk a little bit about what you wrote and what you want people to think about? >> yeah, i wrote that piece to help people understand that you can have a heroic action that doesn't look heroic. that by staying home, by not going to the store -- last week people were still moving around a lot, that it was really important for people to take their individual behavior and see it as an act of citizenship, to see the larger collective, to see the we. >> to see the we in all of this. >> yes. and to actually see the bigger picture. >> i really -- anderson, you and

have talked about that a lot, we are all in this together. how i behave affects you, and how you behave affects me. it is a larger purpose. i have a question about this. we're getting further into this crisis obviously in the united states. i have, you know, three kids at home. people have been home now for a number of days. they're social physical distancing. it's starting to settle in we're in this for a while. this isn't a snow day, it's a season of this. what should we be looking for in terms of mental health in our family and our friends? >> that's a great question. you know, i think the first thing to take into account is each kid -- the ages of kids means they need different things. the group i'm more worried about are teenagers right now. teenagers are supposed to be leaving their homes and engaging with their peers, and they're

supposed to be trying out new things. and they're going to get less of that right now. and so they need to find ways to feel their impact and to stay connected to the groups that are important to them. the middle-aged kids, the 17 to 13-year-olds, they're used to doing things where they're really learning and mastering things. those are your soccer players and flute players, and they've lost of that right now. so they really need a chance to settle in and find ways to keep learning, keep mastering things. and maybe all those things are brand-new for this period of time. and a younger kids is actually a group i'm less worried about. they're actually getting more time with their parents than they usually get. >> we've got a couple of questions from our audience. jackie stevens sent us this video from idaho falls, idaho. it's a little fuzzy but i think it's powerful. let's take a look. >> how do i explain to my timid easily frightened 3-year-old

grandson that he cannot touch, hug, hold or be kept by his beloved grandmother right now? my grandson recently had another grandparent pass away, and it affected him deeply. how do we explain this to him? i am 65 with underlying health problems, and my husband is 82. >> doctor, what's your advice? >> my advice is to explain that for right now grandma needs a special bubble and doesn't mean they can't stay connected, that they can't talk, that they can't read to each other online. i don't know what the physical distance is, but young children can understand that there's a way to stay connected even if they can't be held. i think it's hard for both parties, so i think also it's

important for the grandparent to give permission to the young children and help them see that they're still -- they can feel the love coming back, that they have special waves and they have special winks, that they draw each other pictures. there's different ways of staying connected. >> you know, i think another thing, doctor, that's so unique about this. this is not a single traumatic event like a tornado or hurricane or a fire or something like that. you're dealing with things that are going to be changes that are big changes for a period of time. i mean, maybe a long period of time. so how do you, again, assess and manage your own mental health? i mean, it's a different time frame of things we're now looking at. >> well, i think actually i would encourage people to find coping strategies that helps them feel less stressful. some of those coping strategies might not be something they want to keep for the rest of their lives but will help them through

this period of time. being more optimistic or being able to separate themselves from the feelings sometimes the way surgeons do. it's important that people allow themselves to cope the way they need to, and this is a repeat essentially a repeated trauma. this is going to go on for a while and so people are going to adjust their behaviors, and they're going to have unlearn some things when we come out of this. >> you also compare what this country is going through and a lot of people are going through to grief in a lot of ways. in what way? >> well, first of all, i think people -- i've watched it over this last week. people are going through the stages of grief. you know, there was the week of like oh, it's not a big problem to oh, well, i can do this but i can't do that to i really saw earlier this week acceptance, that people almost were crying, they were depressed. they had taken in the gravity of this situation.

and now people are trying to figure out how they're going to live in this new normal for a while. and i think we really need to help people understand they have the resources to do it. they haven't had to do it before, but people -- everybody's got a lot of strengths. and spouses and partners need to talk to each other about what strengths can they bring to each other during this time. >> dr. gretchen, i appreciate your time as always. thank you so much. >> anderson, it's so interesting to sort of think about the fact we really -- you know, we've had some advanced warning in this and not a lot of people have had time to prepare. i think about my own household. we're still every day thinking how is next week going to be different than this week. we don't even have the luxury i think thinking two, three, four weeks in advance anymore. it's a totally different way of

looking at the world. >> yeah, it's interesting in new york city i think about it as kind of the days after 9/11, which were obviously the worst days for the city. but there was this extraordinary kind of coming together of people. not necessarily physically but just people on it streets saying hello to each other, talking to strangers. and i sense some of that -- it's different because of, you know, the physical distancing. but i was walking to -- i was coming to work today by myself walking on the street, social distancing from anyone around me and yet people would say hello and chat and sort of check in to each other. it wasn't just people saying hello to me because they recognized me, and it's a nice thing. it's nice to feel that sense of what we are all in this together. >> yeah, and i think that part of it's going to get stronger. i hesitate -- i don't know about you but i hesitate to describe anything about this because there are so many people who are

really struggling with this. >> it's decimating to people. >> yeah, and i get messages saying stay home and that may be easy for you or other people but i don't have a job, i don't have money. so it's very real in terms of different things affecting people differently. but i agree with you. sometimes the common threat galvanizes a population, a world unlike anything else. so, again, i'm very careful not to spin this into something pollyannish. something terrible is happening. >> but there are also government and officials that haven't caught up with small business owners, people working paycheck to paycheck, tip and tip and they're talking about, well, the check will be in the mail as opposed there's no rent for you for the next two months or however long, there's credit

cards -- you don't have to pay your credit cards right now. whatever it may be, there's a lag on that that needs to get going. we're going to talk more about all this in a second. there's breaking news out of california. governor gavin newsom just moments ago announced that the entire state is now under stay at home orders. all 40 million californians are stay at home as much as possible. we'll be right back. i just love hitting the open road and telling people that liberty mutual customizes your insurance, so you only pay for what you need! [squawks] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪ ♪ you work hard for your money. stretched days for it.

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ago. all 40 million residents of the state of california now under order from the governor to stay at home. including our next guest. he was aboard the diamond princess cruise ship. then quarantined in a hospital in nebraska where he was being treated. unable to go outside or open a window, having tested positive for the virus. he is back with us again tonight. joining us is carl goldman. carl, are you now back in california? >> i am. i came back in monday night. and as i just heard, and you heard, we're now quarantined in our entire state. >> first of all, let me ask you how are you feeling in general? before we get to how you feel about being quarantined again. but how are you feeling, in general? >> i'm feeling great. totally rid of the virus. it really only hit me for about

a day with the high fever. if i wasn't contagious, i would have been back at work 48 hours later. it ended up being 29 days for me to, finally, test negative a bunch of times to be able to get out. so took me a long time to rid the virus. but, really, i didn't have any symptoms after a few days other than a dry cough that lingered with me. >> and, carl, i mean, look. you were in isolation for weeks and weeks at that hospital. and now, you're hearing this breaking news. it's basically saying you're ordered to stay home, right? i mean, how -- how you feeling about that? >> well, i had decided, based on the reaction to me back here in santa clarita weeks and weeks ago, my wife and i made a decision that i was going to stay quarantined for at least a few weeks here. so i -- i feel for the entire state right now. we're going into a different mode of operation starting tonight. but i'm just glad to be home.

and if i have to stay in my house and go in the backyard and get to my dogs, as i kidded, i now actually miss cleaning up the dog poop. so now, i get to do that. >> you know, again, juster for viewers who are joining us now. i mean, this is a remarkable move by the governor of california. for the entire state, it was in san francisco previously. earlier, this evening it was announced also for los angeles. now, for the entire state of california, people are being ordered to stay at home as much as -- as possible. and what does that actually mean? i mean, for you. we've seen in san francisco, obviously, you know, they say you can go out running. you can go out for walks. it's not a question of not being outside. it's a question of keeping social distancing and keeping trips outside to the absolute minimum. >> exactly. and it's making lemonade out of lemons. my wife looks back at the quarantine and sees it as a gift.

i'm only -- i've only been home a little over 48 hours. so it's not quite a gift yet to me. but i know i'll see the positive side of it. we have a lot of family pictures that have been sitting upstairs. and now, my wife can put that scrapbook together. i can certainly find things to do. we still will be operating our radio station. although, we're doing a lot of that remotely. and i'll continue to write my journal. we'll post that on hometownstation.com. i have been doing that daily since day two of the diamond princess. so we'll get through this. all of us will get through this. we just have to figure out new ways to operate over the next few weeks, or maybe a month, and then hopefully we'll be back to normal. >> yeah. carl goldman, wish you the best. and i'm glad -- glad you're home and back with your wife who's been picking up the dog poop, i know, in your absence. so i am sure she's glad you're back, too. welcome to our new normal which thankfully includes news like

carl's recovery and the great and selfless work who have been giving their all to help people like carl. people in labs and hospitals and the front lines around the country and the world. nurses and doctors. i want to play more of that moment from barcelona in spain. as all across that country, all across the entire country, at 8:00 each night, people confined to their homes go to their windows and their balconies. and they do this every night, i am told. shouting long live doctors. something that happens every night at 8:00. listen. [ cheers and applause ] those are people thanking doctors and nurses, medical tech technicians. and those are people saying we are here. we are together in all of this. it's a sign that in a race between fear and hope, hope is

making itself felt and sprouting with the season. taking root in spain and china. and in the awakening, unconquerable place within us all where fear only lasts so long but hope never dies. a franciscan priest wrote a poem about that place. it's titled "lockdown." yes, there is fear. yes, there is isolation. yes, there is panic buying. yes, there is even death. but they say in wuhan, after so many years of noise, you can hear the birds again. they say that after just a few weeks of quiet, the sky is no longer thick with fumes. but blue and gray and clear. they say that in the streets of asisi, people are singing to each other across the empty squares keeping their windows open so those who are alone may hear the sounds of family around them. they say a hotel in the west of ireland is offering free meals and deliveries to the home bound. today, a woman i know is busy spreadi spreading flyers with her number

through the neighborhood so her elders may have someone to call on. the poem continues so we pray and we remember that, yes, there is fear but there does not have to be hate. yes, there is isolation but there does not have to be loneliness. yes, there is panic buying but there doesn't have to be meanness. yes, there is sickness. but there does not have to be disease of the soul. yes, there is even death. but there can always be a rebirth of love. wake to the choices you make as to how to live now. today, breathe, listen. behind the factory noises of your panic, the birds are singing again. the sky is clearing. spring is coming. and we are always encompassed by love. open the windows of your soul. and though you may not be able to touch across the empty square, sing. >> that's beautiful, anderson. >> i wish i wrote it. >> i know but it's beautiful and i'm glad that people get to hear

this message tonight in the midst of all the numbers and data that we've been giving you. it's really beautiful. and i just want to add another personal note if i might as well, anderson. i want to talk for a second about the doctors, nurses, respiratory therapists, the people who have been a part of this healthcare system for so many years. the people who, for them, this part of the story really hits home. even this week, the hospital where i work had its first patient pass away from the coronavirus. everything we are doing right now is to help our healthcare workers. it really is. and i wanted to share with you, a message that has been going around on social media. pictures of doctors and nurses and respiratory therapists. everyone battling this on the front lines. they are sending this message. i don't know if you can read that but it says stayed at work for you. so you should stay at home for us. remember that. remember that in these coming weeks and think about your actions and think about what the people who are taking care of you are sacrificing for us. and also, remember that you,

too, can be a part of the solution. you can help find out how to help by just going to cnn.com/impact. find a lot of good sources there. and ways that you can be a part of the solutions. >> yeah. well, we are really all in this together. sanjay, thanks very much. the news continues here on cnn.

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