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california, the state of new york, also in the state of illinois and in connecticut as well. tens of millions of people now faces unprecedented dislocation. the impacts of this just beginning to get felt and i'm not talking about the health impacts on people, the financial impacts, the ripple effects of this are just devastating. we are just getting -- seeing more and more calls for ventilators, for supplies, medical supplies, the mayor of new york has for days now saying they are -- his health system is under threat, he's talking about two weeks or three weeks before they start to see real, real shortages of just basic protective equipment. growing questions about the availability of testing. why is it still not in place and why can no one give a date when it's going to be up and running for everybody who needs it? a lot of questions about the protective gear for medical professionals, the ventilators,

personnel to treat critical cases. in the hour ahead, we'll focus on all of that, get you up to date and on hand to answer your questions as well. i want to begin with nick watt. nick, what's the latest? >> reporter: anderson, this is one of those three large u.s. cities now on this stay-at-home order. 4 million people. the streets aren't deserted. this is possibly my least favorite freeway. this is rush hour. it's normally a parking lot and today, boy, is it moving freely. >> this is the day everything changed. >> californians, new yorkers, the populations of illinois and connecticut will all soon be under orders to stay home. that's more than 70 million americans. >> to avoid the loss of potentially tens of though,000s of lives, we must enact an immediate stay-at-home order for the state of illinois.

>> these provisions will be enforced. this is the most drastic action we can take. >> people can get out to the store, get out for air but stop socializing. >> i'm going to bring the whole family to see mom. no, not now. >> food service and health care providers are still struggling nationwide to find the supplies to keep themselves safe and treat the sick. >> we're starting to see those individuals become sick as well and be taken out of the workforce or in some cases become seriously ill. so here's where everything can fall apart very quickly. >> in los angeles, they're erecting tents in hospital parking lots to treat coronavirus patients. distillers now making sanitizer for first responders, nursing making their own masks. >> we absolutely feel like we are in this alone. >> the u.s. is the biggest

economy on earth and the mayor of our most populous city saying it will run out of medical supplies in two or three weeks. >> i have made repeated appeals to the federal government to get us basic medical supplies and there is no meaningful response. where the hell is the federal government in the middle of the biggest crisis we've seen in generations? >> the president says he's pulled the trigger on the defense exact, giving himself permission to order supplies. >> we have millions of masks which are coming and will be distributed to the states. >> goldman sacks estimates this week 2.25 million of americans filed for their first week of unemployment. if that is accurate, it will be eight times last week's figure and an all-time record. all interest on federal student loans now suspended, tax deadline day pushed three months

to july 15th. >> this is not a permanent state. this is a moment in time. >> you know, here in l.a. mayor garcetti just held a press conference and during that conference he said it's okay to cry, it's okay to be scared but it's also right to be hopeful. he said, thank you, everybody, for doing all of this for each other. strange times and over in new orleans the mayor has said they are also going to go under a similar stay-at-home order. when new orleans starts the party, anderson, you know we've got problems. >> they've been hard hit. joining is new york city councilman, richie torres, who has been diagnosed with coronavirus. how are you feel? ing -- feeling? what does it feel like to actually have it?

>> thankfully my symptoms have been largely mild, i'm feeling fine. my chief of staff had fever sip toms, coughing, vomiting and he underwent testing and he had the coronavirus, which prompted me to undergo testing and i had the virus and since then i directed my team to isolate themselves and i've been isolated and we'll stay isolated for two weeks to avoid giving it to others, including my mother who at age 60 suffers with conditions. >> if you can describe the impact, particularly the most vulnerable in our communities. folks working hour by hour -- not just pay czech check to pay but tip to tip and people already in difficult circumstances. this is devastating for i don't know how many people are going

to get brought down by this. >> the coronavirus outbreak has the potential to radically reshape life as we know it. it could be even more catastrophic economically than 9/11 and the financial crisis in 2008. there are businesses and families that have been ravaged. it's one thing to have a slowdown in economic activity. it's something else to see whole sectors of the new york city economy, entertainment, art, food, hospitality brought to a grinding halt. so i worry about long-term unemployment and people who could be driven to all the pathologies that come with long-time unemployment, whether it be alcoholism or substance abuse or mental illness or depths of despair, which is already an epidemic in america. >> was talking to a small business owner today who was saying he's supposed to pay payroll taxes today. and, you know, was asking, well,

is that going to be deferred and was told, well, you still have to file but you can ask for deferment it turns out on the government's web site, you can't ask for a deferment. there's so many things that -- financial deadlines that people have, whether it's individuals or business owners, landlords are telling people you still have to pay the rent because i still have to make my mortgage. it doesn't seem like businesses have -- or government has caught up to where all -- to answer all the questions that people have right now. >> not at all. people are struggling to survive. we desperately need an infusion of economic support from the federal government. the coronavirus outbreak demonstrates why we need a comprehensive social safety net in the united states to catch all of us when we fall. programs like universal health care and paid sick time serve as automatic stabilizers in the

lives of every day americans, especially in a moment of an outbreak, which has brought cat traff -- catastrophic losses to every day businesses and families. >> i appreciate you talking to us from your home quarantined and sick. we wish you a speedy recovery and god speed getting back to work. i want to go to d jar. jeremy f, a physician in boston and a professor at a boston medical school. i hear people saying you have to shout this from the roof tops, we're really worried about what may be coming down the pike. >> here what's i think everyone needs to understand -- e.r. doctors, nurses, the whole staff, we are ready and came for

this as long as we have what we need. you don't ask danica patrick to race without a seat belt. i ask like a third grader when a colleague goes to africa to fight ebola and they say no but people here are scared because they don't have what they need. my message is help us do our jobs. cry from the rooftops to give us the safety stuff we need. i can tell you a little bit more about that. >> how bad is it -- we don't have cameras in hospitals and obviously there's patient privacy laws, hipa laws, but is

it as bad is -- right now is it a concern of what may be coming or is it what you're already seeing? >> well, for one thing i think it takes us all aback when we have to ration. this is the united states of america and we're rationing. that just doesn't feel right. to answer your question directly, it depends on where you are. some places are fine and some places are actually really hurting. that's why you're seeing the cdc put out guidelines you never would have thought you'd seen. if you have to use a babb dannd you have to do it. that's just crazy. the big question is is the ppe, the protective gear, is it coming or is it not? there's a lot of confusion th e there. as an e.r. doctor, i'm very practical. i can say let's actually address another way to save this equipment, which is to address our capacity. because if we are overrun with

capacity, then we're going to chew through more ppe. so the two ways i see of doing that right now is a very simple proposal that cass sunstein and i wrote today in the "washington post," which is open up hotels, lease hotels for the fbs aedera government and use them for isolation. they could provide a safe place for those who have symptoms and don't have places to go. what about poor people? they can't isolate. and we can help doctors like me not feel like a decision i make about who to send home or who to admit is going to lead to a legal problem down the road. we've asked at that level, at the federal level and state level to take a look at that and alex lazar has been briefed on the president of the emergency college of physicians.

this will help us keep the capacity down so we don't burn through the stuff. >> dr. faust, i appreciate it. i hope people are listening to those very specific recommendations. we'll check in with you down the road. thank you for all you and your colleagues are doing. coming up next, we're going to take a look at what drugs may hold promise against the virus -- or about the science, what actually we know versus what the president talked about. he seem to be fixated on one, a drug that's linked to a drug used to treat malaria for an awfully long time. i've taken it for quite a long time when needed. the question is there's no actual sicientific evidence, the that's not evidence at all, just anecdotes. ggled life for it. ♪ ♪ took charge for it.

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there's no scientific evidence it works, there's anecdotal evidence. dr. fauchi cautioned reading too much into it. the president said he has a good feeling about it and just putting it out there. we want to talk about the actual facts behind it. dr. timothy sacker, infebruary sh -- infectious disease doctor. can you walk us through the three drug trials you're on right now? >> we have the first drug, the one that you talked about, hydroxychloroquine. the second one is a drug called losartin and the third one is remdesivir.

we're thinking about it to prevent the infection. we're looking for somebody exposed with a known infection and we're going to give them hydroxychloroquine and see if we can prevent it from occurring. losartin is for people who test positive but without symptoms and we want to see if we can prevent them from becoming symptomatic. this is an interesting drug because its mechanism of action is against the receptor that the virus uses to get into the cell. we have reason to believe this drug might be helpful in the treatment of the infection. and the third drug is remdesivir, the drug from gilead that will be used for treatment of the symptomatic or severe disease. that was originally developed to treat ebola. didn't work there but some early

testing suggested it may have activity against this coronavirus. so that's a multi-center trial run by the nih and running in 30 centers across the country and internationally as well. >> do you have a sense, a timeline of i don't know how long clinical trials last and i guess it differs for drugs. do you have a sense of when you will actually know one way or the other whether any of these have any efficacy? >> sure. when you're designing a drug trial, you need to put enough people in each arm to tell if there's a difference between the active drug and inactive drug, if you will. if you've got a disease that's rare or not very common, it takes a long time to recruit. sadly, i think here it's not going to take long at all. in fact, in the hydroxychloroquine trial, we've had brisk inquiries and recru

recruitments into that study. once they're on study and the short time after the last person comes off study, the code is broken and we'll have preliminary results as to whether this drug is effective or not. same is true for the other two trials. >> and how long does that usually take to get preliminary results? >> after the last patient comes off? that can happen in weeks. >> weeks. okay. interesting. doctor yasmin, were you surprised to hear the president touting something that dr. fauci had to say -- >> no, i wasn't surprised. just yesterday they said chloroquine was approved by the fda and the fda had to say no,

it's not. that's adding to the anxiety of what is happening and isn't happening. we have to have these solid clinical trials. i think it's interesting that we're talking about this old school malaria drug being brought back to treat this but we're looking at really old school treatment. become in the 1800s, we could use antibodies from survivors and we're looking at that same 1800-year-old treatment for this infection, too. that's why you have survivors. we have 77,000 survivors of this covid-19. you look in their blood for antibodies to the virus and you can use them as treatment or even as a potential protective measure for those who might become infected. the caveat there is we don't know how long those antibodies last and it's still experimental. we did this with ebola, we used

it to treat polio and mumps and measles as well. >> sanjay, you have a question for dr. schacker. >> so there's hydroxychloroquine and then chloroquine. is one a derivative of each other or are they different? >> well, they're different drugs. i don't know what the trial design -- i don't know the specifics of any trials that her out there for chloroquine. ours, the hydroxychloroquine is a controlled trial. >> but you -- i think -- but it was the chloroquine i think they were talking about where they were going to bring several million tablets over. did you hear about that? >> i didn't hear the press conference. i know they're looking at both chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. the data that's out there,

frankly is on hydro hydroxychloroquine, not chloroquine. >> i just wanted to clarify that. >> doctor, i appreciate all you're doing. sanjay as always and dr. yasmin as well. >> a member of governor cuomo's staff has apparently tested positive for coronavirus. and from "the washington post," moments ago intelligence reports warned that the coronavirus would become a likely pandemic and reportedly went ignored. we'll have a report on that story ahead. ♪ don't get mad, put those years to work with e*trade.

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a story broke in "the washington post" regarding what the government knew about the coronavirus and when it knew it. i'm quoting from the lead of the story, "u.s. intelligence agencies were issuing ominous classified warnings in january and february about the global danger posed by the coronavirus while president trump and lawmakers played down the threat and failed to take action that might have slowed the spread of the path general according to u.s. officials familiar with spy agency report be. the post's shane harris, who is a reporter, shares the byline. he joins us by phone. splab what offici-- explain wha were being told. >> it was being disseminated across the congressional delegation and intelligence committee, that what was happening in china looked like the makings of a pandemic.

these would have been available to people in the administration and lawmakers. building this picture of january and february of an outbreak that was not only characteristics of something that was going to have global spread but importantly including from classified sources indicated the chinese government was not being forthcoming about how bad the situation really was. that's important because experts have said in those early days of the outbreak in wuhan, the chinese government didn't move quickly enough and didn't tell the world enough about what it understood about the virus. that is information that at least in the classified channel was available to key u.s. policy makers as early as january. >> is it known how much of this, you know, would end up in briefings that the president would receive on a daily basis? >> we're still trying to determine that specific question, but there's no question i think at this point that the information that would have been available to people in

congressional committees would have also been available to folks at the white house as well. so we're still trying to determine precisely what intelligence officials would have told the president directly. but we're also reporting is there were people on his staff trying to bring his issue to his attention and felt that the president wasn't engaged sufficiently with the severity of the virus. >> if you look back at the statements from the president in january and february, it's a litany of, you know, dismissing this, dismissing it as, you know, something even when the president spoke publicly about it saying there's 15 patients when it came to the united states, they're all doing better, you know, it might just end there, it's going to go away when it gets warm, all that sort of stuff. has there been any response from the white house to your reporting? >> the white house does not deny these reports exists and it essentially criticized the democrats and media for criticizing the president and his response. i think you put your finger on

it there, anderson, is that the president was saying something remarkably different from what these intelligence reports were indicating. to be clear, these reports were not saying the coronavirus is going to break on u.s. shores on date certain but people who have seen the volume of this, it was coming every day and by early february the majority of reports that get disseminated out to keep people throughout the government was looking at coronavirus. it was sort of overtaking everything. so the idea that the president was portraying this as something that wasn't at all a concern is just totally at odds with what the intelligence community said. >> shane, i also want to bring in kaitlan collins at the white house. fascinating reporting by shane and others at the "washington post." you think back to some of those things the president said, you know, that beyond his, you know, with diamond and silk that this was going to magically

disappear, it's not a pandemic, it totally under control and under control and now he's rewriting history and saying he knew all along it was going to be a pandemic. >> reporter: that's certainly not the case. that's what's so interesting about this report. it says the intelligence showed that the chinese officials were downplaying the severity of it. that raises questions of when it did start to gain traction here in the united states and when the president and his advisers, maybe not the president but certainly his advisers, the hhs secretary, dr. fauci, they started to have daily meetings about this long before the president started publicly issuing these statements about the urgency about responding to the guidelines of this virus. why then were they not taking this more seriously and looking into this to see just how much were these chinese officials downplaying it? that really raises a lot of questions about the president's initial remarks. you this i th-- think they woul have been so skeptical of what

the chinese president was saying. but he was saving that the chinese president was doing a good job containing it and officials say we lost a lot of precious time because of how much information they did shield. >> also, shane, it's sort of so frustrating what you're reporting that you hear they're getting these briefings, the nlks intelligence is out there and folks on capitol hill are being briefed about it, you can only imagine the president has much more specific and urgent and the best information possible and yet there's delays on -- ridiculous delays on this testing, which is still going on. all of this -- people kind of poo-pooed the matter. it matters if the intelligence does not believe or is not even

interested in what might happen. >> it absolutely matters. you're exactly right. the president could have immediately sensed the urgency of this and taken action. what we're finding is that even up to the level of his chief of staff and head of his domestic policy council recognized fairly early on that this was a serious problem and at the very least was going to be a political problem for the president if he didn't engage on it. and were trying to figure out amongst themselves essentially how do we make the boss care about this? that goes to show you this administration seemed to be somewhat paralyzed absent the involvement of the president and his unwillingness to engage what was clearly a pandemic in the making. it underscores the agree to which you have to have in any administration for a response that's going to require a whole of the government, including the

willingness of the nation to commit to these drastic measures, you're going to have to have the president willing to engage on it and believing that it's true and that wasn't happening in the early stages. >> we've heard the president say how could anyone have predicted this, this came out of nowhere. plenty people have talked about pandemics and the likelihood of this and there will be another one in the future, there's no doubt about that, but someone did predict what the response might be from the white house. author michael lewis, has written so many fascinating books. he wrote a book president trump would not be able to handle a major crisis. we'll talk to michael louis in just a moment.

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"the washington post" as we just told you a moment ago has reported that the u.s. intelligence community had ominous warnings as early as january that the coronavirus would become likely a pandemic. their concerns reportedly went ignored. joining me is michael louis, a fantastic author. if you haven't read all of his books, you're really missing out. he's written a ton of best sellers, including "the fifth risk", which is about president trump and his administration and who he says is ill equipped to handle the government. i wonder what you make of the administration's response that you've seen thus far and how it relates to what you wrote about in this book and predicted? >> you know, it's sad to watch, not hard to have predicted. because if you just go back to the way they behaved when they took office, you could see something was going to happen, right? i mean, he had by law to prepare

a transition team of hundreds and hundreds of people who were supposed to go in and kind of learn how this government that he was supposed to run worked the day after the election and he fired the entire operation. and then made a great show of like tossing the briefing books that they might have used to brief him in the garbage can. so you had this situation where, i mean, the reason i wrote the fifth risk is if you think of the federal government, you know, one way to look at it is as a manager of this portfolio of really, you know, serious risks. and there are lots of them. if you're not going to manage them, if you're not going to learn about the thing you're managing, you're heightening all of the risks. the question i had is what is the thing that's going to happen that is going to bite us. is it going to be a cyber attack, the electric grid, nuclear weapons? who knew what it was going to be. >> so what's the fifth risk? >> well, the fifth risk in the book is the risk you're not

thinking about. it's the ones you attend to, the ones that are vivid or recent are the ones you tend to be prepared for. and the point is -- >> you got that term from i think a department of energy official, right? >> that's right. i wandered into the department of energy because that was where i happened to start and i asked him to name what the top five risks he worried about were. it was a nuclear weapon going off when it shouldn't and it was the iran nuclear deal falling a i part and the electric grid being compromised. he got to five and he couldn't think of one. and it took him a while and he finally came up with one but basically while he was grappling for it, i thought that's the fifth risk, it's the thing you can't think about because the thing you're not thinking about is the thing that's going to cause you trouble. but that's what the governor does, it manages those sorts of risks. you look, you ask me what do i think about how trump is

handling this? it's appalling to watch but it's very in character. that's what's been so striking about it. you know, it's not surprising that a president who really didn't want to know about the government that he's running has led us to having this disease, this virus out there that we don't know anything about. that's the signature of this moment is that we haven't -- we don't have the testing ability to figure out where it is, who's got it, who's giving it to who. that's a very trumpian thing. >> it's not even not interested in the government, it's a complete suspicion of the government that does exist. even today in the midst of all of this, he wasted a second of his life in order to say the deep state department with the secretary of state standing right next to him who of course just remains there, not defend being the department at all, but the idea that even in the midst of this he is trying to cut the

knees off all these -- it's now a dirty word to have a lifelong civil servants, people who actually know what they're doing, that's now viewed as, you know, deep state or bureaucrats. >> know what they're doing is probably the important phrase in what you just said because i think the source of hostility is that, you know, this is a guy who has insisted from the beginning he kind of knows everything he needs to know before he knows it. and you've got this body of people and the government among other things is a great scientific enterprise who actually do know things and they're in a position to challenge him. and i think he finds that threatening. his pose in the beginning was indifference and a lot of things came in as a result of that indifference. you know, just look at the various ways he's handling it and it's so in character. like the focus on foreigners,

it's the chinese virus. first thing he said almost was we're going to close the mexican border. and actually what threatens us is not foreigners coming in. it's not even really travel. it's mixing within our communities. it's -- he's unable to kind of get that across because it's outside of his frame of reference. everything is the other. the other is responsible for the problem. but this hostility to knowledge was at the bottom of his administration is now really haunting us. and lots of people are going to die who -- >> it's also one thing if you're a person just on a bar stool talking about the chinese virus. it's another thing when you're responsible for all the citizens in this country, many of whom are of asian dissent and who are now at risk of having racist, bigoted idiots on the street accost them with slurs, as has

happened to a cnn reporter today, today or yesterday i think it was, which has happened to people who videotaped -- we've seen asian-americans being attacked on the streets or being screamed at on trains or buses. it's ridiculous that the president of the united states is the one, you know, using that lever. >> fanning these flames. >> it's incredible. >> you got to ask yourself who does that? who basehaves like that? in part it's someone who doesn't accept any of the consequences of his actions. in the fabric of the trump administration, that's one of the threads. he's never really accepted the responsibility of the job he was given. i don't want to lay it all at his doorstep because one of the things in the book that was striking to me was he was more

an ultimate expression of stuff that's going on in this country for a long time, this hostility -- especially from the republican party towards the federal government. and the bleeding of the federal government. >> i'm sorry, i got to interrupt you. i got to take a quick break. stick around, we're going to come back in just a couple minutes. i want to keep talking to you we'll be right back. >> all right. stretched days fo. ♪ ♪ juggled life for it. ♪ ♪ took charge for it. ♪ ♪ so care for it. look after it. invest with the expertise of j.p. morgan, either with an advisor or online, through chase. after all, it's yours. chase. make more of what's yours.

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this will expose all the hidden things in the economy. >> just it'll expose the fragility of the society. it will expose the weak -- the weak places in the society. and one of the weak places that's been exposed is the -- is the management of federal government, for kpachexample. we now can see just how little control sort of trump has of this enterprise and his ability to organize the response. but another -- i mean, a whole 'nother layer of this is you have seen the statistic that americans couldn't handle the shock of $400 or more. it's catastrophic for them. i don't know if that's exactly true. but something like that is true. and that's what we're just -- we're experiencing. and i really worry about lots of people who are living paycheck to paycheck, what they are going to do in this situation. and -- and i think you're going to see it. you're going to see just how precarious a lot of people's situations. and we need -- it really has got to be a giving moment. i just think it's a time where

your natural impulse where something bad happens is to look out for yourself. look out for your family and that's fine. but you got to do more than that because right now,wear kind of all in something together and we're only going to get through it together. that's my hope. that's what we learn. >> never is that more true than in a case like this. i mean, literally, you know, my health depends on, you know, your health. and, you know, your -- your health can affect your, you know, your dad's health. i mean, or whomever. >> right. that -- that it is -- it's not a moment for selfishness. selfishness will -- it will come back and haunt you. that's -- i think that's absolutely right. that this -- so it's created but what we -- what we have evolved into a more and more selfish and kind of isolated society. and i think that we're going to have to bounce in a different direction to address this problem.

>> what i've -- what i've seen around the world in places where terrible things are happening is that, for many people, it is a choice how you choose to behave in a situation like this. you can choose to commit acts of kindness, and you can choose to, you know, commit acts of depravity. i mean, you can choose how you respond. whether you rise up to this occasion. or whether you shrink from it. and -- and -- and hurt others. >> and you can choose how you feel about it. right? i mean, you -- you -- very -- you can avoid wallowing in self-pity. i mean, everybody will have lost something. and you can, instead, say, like, how do i make this work? katrina's a really good example of this, right? i mean, it was a tragic event for my city. the city of new orleans. i was there for it like you. but the city bounced. it came back and it came back in all kinds of interesting and positive ways. >> michael, we got to go.

michael lewis. "the fifth risk" is the book. thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you, anderson. >> stay safe. all right. take care. coming up, more news ahead. all these government officials, congress people selling stocks ahead of the crash. we'll talk about that ahead. [happy birthday music]

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that's all the time we have. stay safe, everybody. want to turn it over to chris for "cuomo primetime." >> i am chris cuomo. you have got me for a special two-hour edition of primetime. this has been one of the toughest weeks of our lives together. everything has changed. and, now, we have breaking news. so together as ever, as one, let's get after it. all