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get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! good evening. tens of millions more americans saw their world shrink to four walls or the walls of their homes. myself, included. someone on my team believes they may be positive for the coronavirus. and so out of an abundance of caution, i'm going to be broadcasting, tonight, from -- from my house in new york city. i don't have any symptoms. i feel fine. it's just an abundance of caution to keep everybody around me and all -- everybody on our staff is going to be staying out of the office for a while. people are now being asked to stay at home, here in new york city. that was the big news in new york today. also, in connecticut, in california, and in illinois. cases topped 18,000. a staffer for vice president pence, testing positive. questions continue about
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supplies, of course. and the president's demeanor and the president's statements. it's a very busy night ahead. doctors on hand to take your questions as well but i want to begin with cnn's erica hill, who is joining us from new york. erica, the announcement today, all over new york from governor cuomo. talk about exactly what this means. >> so what it means is starting sunday night, this is an executive order, 100% of workers are supposed to stay home. now, essential workers are exempt. those are things like healthcare workers, first responders, people who work in food services. the media is also exempt so you say see us certain places outside so i just want to give people that warning in advance. and i should say mayor de blasio here in new york city is praising this move by the governor. and he says that the governor will have his full support from the fdny and nypd. the governor says it will be enforced with both civil fines and mandatory business closures. if businesses are open or have workers there when they're not supposed to, as of now, though, anderson, no fines for
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individuals. but it is just one of many areas changing tonight across the country. new promises from the white house. >> we have millions of masks, which are coming. and which will be distributed to the states. they will be here soon. we're having them shipped directly to states. >> critical supplies, now, on the way. though, the president was light on specifics. it's not clear when they'll arrive, nor where the white house is getting them. states, meantime, are moving swiftly to try to contain the various. >> it's time for all of us to recognize, as individuals and as a community, we need to do more. >> california telling the state's 40 million residents to stay home. while they can go out for food, medical appointments, even a jog, officials are urging people to limit the excursions and the interaction. while new york's governor went even further, mandating all nonessential workers stay home starting sunday night. >> we talked to people all across the globe about what they did, what they've done, what worked, what doesn't work.
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and that has all informed this policy. we need everyone to be safe. otherwise, no one can be safe. >> the governor is advising public transportation only if absolutely necessary. any outdoor exercise must be done alone. visits with loved ones, discouraged. the strictest rules will apply to the most vulnerable. those over 70. the immunocompromised. anyone with an underlying illness. the governor warned the new rules are not optional. >> somebody wants to blame someone or complain about someone, blame me. if everything we do saves just one life, i'll be happy. >> neighboring connecticut announcing similar measures friday. as illinois orders its residents to stay at home. >> left unchecked, cases in illinois will rise rapidly. >> in florida, some counties are now closing beaches as the
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governor resists calls to do the same statewide. >> you either think it's a liberal conspiracy. or that we're the jack booted thugs trying to take control of everything. and the reality is that this is a science issue. >> illinois also issuing a stay-at-home order friday afternoon. as life comes to a halt, jobless claims skyrocketing. economists at goldman sachs predict the next report will show 2.25 million americans filed for unemployment in the past week. >> there is no question that people are going to be so hard hit. >> hotels, restaurants, airlines. all announcing layoffs after an unprecedented drop in demand. as nurses and doctors are called out of retirement to help and new restrictions limit movement, the reality of this pandemic is becoming more clear. in new jersey, one family has now lost four loved ones to coronavirus in a matter of days. several more are in the hospital. 19, under quarantine. >> it is absolutely surreal.
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it's like the second we start to grieve about one, the phone rings and there is another person gone. taken from us forever. >> the heartbreak of one family, a sobering reminder that changing daily life could, u ultimately, save it. >> erica, we all know how difficult it is for -- for all of us to actually get a test if we need it. even with a doctor's -- doctor's recommendation. are, at least, medical personnel able to get tested? >> well, you know, part of that sort of depends is definitely what i have been hearing from people. we can tell you, though, is we talk about all the issues not just of testing. but, also, of the equipment here in new york city. the department of health is actually advising health facilities in the city to not test asymptomatic healthcare workers or first responders who may have come in contact with somebody because, anderson, they need to preserve that ppe, the personal protective equipment.
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they are concerned that if they are using too much of it, they are going to run out. so that just sort of puts in perspective for you, too, where we are at in terms of equipment. and they also mentioned in that letter to health facilities that they were concerned about swabs and testing. >> wow. erica hill. appreciate it. thanks. stay safe. i want to go to now our doctors. thankfully, dr. sanjay gupta is with us and also dr. leana wen, emergency room physician. also, former health commissioner for the city of baltimore. sanjay, so the staffer for the vice president testing positive. what does that mean for the vice president? i mean, should he, then, go into quarantine? >> well, they say that the vice president -- what i read from that statement -- did not come in contact with this person. this is -- this is one of those things where, you know, you got to look at the situation, and basically try and determine was this a high-risk situation? medium-risk? or low-risk? and -- and it's going to be medium or high considering that the person has tested positive. but then they want to figure out how much contact did anybody have with this person?
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was the person who tested positive symptomatic at the time they were at the office? were they coughing and sneezing? things like that. then they make recommendations on things like that. if the person was coughing, sneezing, symptomatic and positive, then the people who came in direct contact will likely have to go into quarantine for some time. medium risk is sort of a little bit more up to the judgment of the physician. sometimes they may recommend a short quarantine like 72 hours like you remember, anderson, they did with those congressmen. and then they obviously monitor contacts for symptoms. so these guidelines do keep changing a bit but that's the current guideline. so should not mean anything for the vice president if he didn't come in contact with him or her. >> so -- so we now have -- i -- you know, a couple days ago, they were calling shelter in place, although that seems sort of wrong. i think you and i talked about last night just stay at home orders. stay at home orders in new york, connecticut, california, illinois. is this enough? is this going to be effective?
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>> well, look. you know, anderson, i mean, this is one of those things. and, you know, as i said last night even, i don't take any joy in saying that i think this is not enough. i mean, you know, the idea that you have these states, you know, new york and california, big states certainly doing this, i think is important. but you know, viruses don't stop at the border. you know, i mean, the idea that this virus is in the united states, that it's spreading. that it's spreading, probably, in other communities we haven't gotten really a sense of that because of inadequate testing. i think that's all true. and we know, anderson, again, as we have talked about for a couple of weeks now. and dr. wen has talked about this, as well. is that if you're going to do these policies, if you are going to practice, you know, really implement social distancing, physical-distanci physical-distancing measures and do some of the things happening in new york, where you are, and california. you got to do it now. you got to do it early. you got to do it consistently. you got to do it honestly. people have to be honest about it. and you have to do it di
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diligently. i get the impression people are waiting and when they wait, the same measures won't have as much impact and it's just going to drag this out longer and longer. >> dr. wen, i mean, you are an emergency room physician. god only knows how much you've seen in emergency rooms in your career. do you have a sense of -- i am trying to get a sense of what doctors are seeing every day in hospitals. what they are like. i mean, i have plenty of friends who are doctors who are, you know, seem very, very concerned. they're asking, you know, friends if they have any extra masks that they can donate to the -- to the hospitals. how dire is it? it's hard to get a sense when you're outside, you're not seeing it inside, you know, cameras aren't inside the -- inside, you know, the -- the hospital wards dealing with this. >> anderson, it's really shocking because what we're seeing now, in the u.s., mirror what we saw in china two months ago. just that we couldn't have imagined that this would happen in the u.s. i mean, two months ago, we were hearing about chinese nurses who had to reuse their face masks
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for days. or doctors who were trying to make their own gowns out of raincoats and ponchos. and now, i am seeing the same threads happen in the u.s. where my colleagues are begging, over social medium, for people to donate personal protective equipment to them. i mean, that should just not be happening. we would never send our soldiers into war without armor and make them buy their own ammunition. but that's what's happening here. and i am having colleagues who are talking about that they're afraid to go home for fear that they will spread covid-19 to their loved ones. so we need a lot more action by the federal government. we just can't keep hearing that we hope that we will get more supplies soon. because soon is not a timeline. more is not a quantity. and hope is not a strategy. >> yeah. yeah. i mean, i've -- since katrina, hope is not a plan. you know, people use that word efforting a lot. oh, yeah, we're efforting this. first of all, it's not a real
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verb, i don't think. and efforting to me means it's not here. it's not useable. it's not ready. it's somewhere, maybe, in the pipeline. but, you know, maybe just a pipe dream. sanjay, i want to play something from the coronavirus task force today. because, you know, for all the talk the president kind of now rising to the occasion. of course, the -- we see, as time goes on, that sort of wears thin very quickly. he gets testy very quickly. he lashes out, you know, at a reporter today for, you know, a complete softball question. he also, now, seems to be fixated on a -- a medicine which we talked about last tight night in t in the town hall we asked dr. fauci about. dr. fauci was asked about an anti-viral treatment for patients with coronavirus. let's listen. >> dr. fauci, this was explained yesterday. there has been some promise with hydroxy -- potential therapy for people infected with coronavirus. is there any evidence to
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suggest, as with malaria, it might be used as a proef lax is against covid-19? >> the answer is no and the evidence you are talking about, john, is anecdotal evidence. as the commissioner and president mentioned yesterday, we are trying to strike a balance with making something of a potential of an effect to the american people. available at the same time that we do it under the auspices of a protocol that would give us information to determine if it's truly safe and truly effective. >> i am a big fan. we'll see what happens. and' all understand what the doctor said is 100% correct. it's early. but we've -- you know, i've seen things that are impressive. and we'll see. we're going to know soon. >> i mean, is it really -- i mean, is it appropriate -- i mean, i know it's not appropriate. it just seems inappropriate for the president of the united states to be sort of like a commentator on a sports game about, you know, the health of americans. sort of maybe it'll work. maybe it doesn't.
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there's no evidence. but i got a gut feeling about it. and dr. fauci's standing there saying, you know, there's no evidence. there's anecdotal. but just because you're, you know, my friend down the street says, oh, yeah, it works, it doesn't mean anything. >> i mean, look, yesterday the president said this was a new drug that had been approved for coronavirus. it has not. it's not a new drug and it's not been approved for coronavirus. he said it could be a game changer and dr. fauci, as you mentioned, said, well there's only anecdotal evidence, at best, around this. it was a remarkable press conference today because obviously, you know, one person is saying look i got my feeling about this. my gut instinct. it's not scientifically based. it's not evidence based but it's how i feel. then dr. fauci coming up and saying, look, i'm a scientist. here's what we're going to do. maybe it's going to show promise. maybe not. we're going to test it. that's what we're going to do. if it doesn't work, we'll move onto something else. we'll fail quickly at least.
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it was really striking. it was really this collision. i got to tell you, anderson. there was another trial started one week after the first patient was diagnosed with coronavirus. it involved two hiv drugs. you may have heard about this trial. a lot of promise behind that one, as well. but, unfortunately, on wednesday, two days ago, the trial results came back and it wasn't effective. that's why you do science. you know, so you don't have to waste your time possibly giving people something that's not going to work. and could cause some harm. so -- but it was really fascinating to see dr. fauci fact check, on the fly, what was going on there today. >> yeah. dr. wen, it just -- again, i was just flabbergasted that i'm not sure why the president feels the need to comment on -- on things that are just scientifically not factual. i mean, again, he has got really good people around him. let them -- like, just stick to the science. >> that's exactly right. and we've seen this from the beginning, though, that he's wanted to paint this much rosier picture than what may actually be happening.
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but i think the american people really just want to know the truth. we want to know the facts. we want to know what do we know? what do we not know? and what are the actions that are going to be taken? and i think that's what we should all be doing going forward. leading with the facts and the science and the truth. >> doctors, appreciate it. we'll talk to you later on and we're going to be taking questions from our viewers. so many people with questions. we're going to give you facts, not hunches, not things we just kind of think sound right. facts. coming up. not falsehoods. zblchl also, drew griffin's going to be investigating -- investigating the testing. i mean, i know y'all know that there's not enough testing. we all know this. but, you know, this country was attacked by some force and the defense that we had still wasn't up and operational. you know, people would be fired. heads would roll. people would be outraged about this. the fact that this country, with all the power, all the money,
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all the capabilities it has, all the public health systems it has, does not have enough testing at this point. after weeks and weeks and weeks of, you know, nods and promises from -- from, you know, from the -- the top people in the white house on down, is just an outrage. drew griffin's going to look into more on exactly what went wrong. and this can't happen. we're going to have another pandemic down the road sometime. and we got to learn lessons and we got to start learning them right now. we're going to take a short break. we'll have a report from the white house coming up. life isn't a straight line. and sometimes, you can find yourself heading in a new direction. but when you're with fidelity, a partner who makes sure every step is clear, there's nothing to stop you from moving forward.
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the way that he does about possible medications, possible cures, possible treatments. and he's short on specifics. though, he makes, often, very -- very bold statements. i want to play you a -- an exchange he had with our -- our kaitlan collins where she tried to pin -- pin him down on some actual numbers about ventilators and what's being done to get more ventilators made. let's take a look. >> this is important. you haven't actually directed any companies to start making more ventilators or masks. correct? >> i have. i have, yes. i have. >> how many? >> a lot. they're making a lot of ventilators and they're making a lot of masks. >> joining us, "new york times" maggie, cnn political analyst and david gergen, whose bipartisan west wing experience goes back, well, to the nixon administration. maggie, just two days ago, i think people were kind of saying, oh, well, the president's tone was more
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appropriate. he seemed to be taking this seriously, which he had been nothing but really dismissive for the long -- for the longest time about it. saying, you know, well, it will probably go away in april. it's going to miraculously disappear. there are 15 cases. they're all feeling better. it'll pretty much end after that. it's not going to cost a lot of money. all of which have proven false, of course. and there were plenty of people who knew, at the time, that that would not be the case. he is now front and center on this. i'm wondering what we make of that exchange where, you know, a simple question as well, okay, you talked to companies to get them to produce more. what companies have you talked to? yesterday or two days ago, they gave a whole long list of companies they had spoken with. and now, the president's saying, oh, yeah, a lot. is there any evidence of this? >> no, anderson, there isn't. and i give a lot of -- a lot of kudos to kaitlan for sticking with the very specific question there that she was trying to ask. the president gave at least three different answers to that same question throughout that briefing. it is not clear that he has actually asked companies or ordered companies to do
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anything. what is happening is that companies seem to be agreeing to do certain things. but that is not the same thing as using the defense production act that he did -- he did sign. but he has not invoked even though he kept saying that he did. and you referenced something, at the top, about the fact that in the first couple days the president was getting praised for his tone. i think what was notable about what he was doing in the first two days is that, more often than not, the quality of the information he was giving was -- was solid. he was actually sticking to the facts. so forgetting about whether he was somber or yelling at reporters because that was always going to come back no matter what. but in the last two days, what you've seen is him veering away from that. you have seen him suggesting that reporters whose -- whose outlets h outlets reporters were expelled from china earlier. today, he made all kinds of unfounded claims about medicine that may be used. but that dr. fauci made clear
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has a long way to go before it could be. and the president sounded a lot more boosterish. the longer he is out there, less effect ichb effective it seems and i guess i don't understand why he is standing at the podium seven days a week. there were surely other people who can do it. >> i don't have any inside knowledge. you have far more than i do. but just from a news standpoint, the president, david gergen, is somebody who knows where the news cycle is. he has a great radar fwor this. this is probably his greatest specialty. and can sense vibrations from far away. and he knows that dr. fauci and some of the other people involved in this process are starting to look good. and are seen as credible and their star is rising a little bit. he even commented to dr. fauci in, you know, at a briefing that dr. fauci's becoming very famous, or words to that effect. and we know this president -- that's -- to me, and i'm just
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guessing, it seems like that's why he is now front and center. i mean, he's just standing there introducing people because this is where the news cycle is and he wants to be in front of it after days and weeks of, frankly, incredibly harmful misinformation. >> anderson, i think what's happened is that he made this u-turn. much more serious earlier in the week. and it's shown up in the polls. there two polls out now that, for the first time, have him above 50% in approval on how he's handling this -- this virus question. an nbc poll has imhim up 12 pois from where he was only a month ago and his handling of it. why he reverted today is a mystery. why he would smear the press, yet again, which does not help him. it only divides. and why he would engage, you know, sugar coating and holding out probably false hope about this miracle drug that has actually been on the market for quite a long time to take care of malaria.
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you know, presidents don't sell snake oil very well. and he would be far better off to take a page from the pentagon, which learned long ago, especially after vietnam, how to handle the press. now, sort of standard practice at the pentagon, the secretary of defense comes out and frames an issue for the press. but then he turns it over to the generals to talk about the tactics and the -- and the strategy and to get more down in the weeds. and -- and they are very believable. and it works for the pentagon. i think -- and, in fact, if he could just turn over all the medical side of this to fauci, who is terrific. and just frame the general, he would be so much better off and the country wouldn't be as confused. i think when you confuse people, it also gives them incentive to say maybe this is not so serious at all. maybe there's this miracle drug around the corner. why don't we just go to the beach? it's all going to pass.
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it's all a hoax anyway. >> maggie, you tweeted earlier today and say some administration officials say there was a week and a half period after pence took over where the white house response was functioning better. then additional stepped in and the president wanted more visibility. it's about visibility, isn't it? >> a lot of it is. and, anderson, when you were listing the number of people who have gotten applause for how they have handled their moments at the podium, you missed one and that was mike pence. and i think when we started seeing the president, it was, i believe, sunday when he first came out. and that was the last night that we really saw pence speaking a lot. the president spoke. he said fake news. he listed off a bunch of companies. he was angry about -- i don't even remember what news story it was. but he was angry about something. he didn't really take questions and then he left. and pence was then left to talk about the barebones facts of what was taking place in the response. and he was seen pretty broadly as foektieffective at doing it. and i don't think it's a
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coincidence that the president has been much more visible at the podium ever since. look. there were some complaints from some quarters about how pence was doing when he took over. there were certainly concerns. i think a lot of governors have since said that they found him to be pretty easy to work with and they appreciated it and thought he was responsive. but then you had pence's office ask jared kushner, the president's son-in-law and advisor, to help merge -- operations of the white house and of the vice president's office because the vice president's very small team was getting overwhelmed trying to respond to questions. and everything was going through them at that point. from there, jared kushner took on a much bigger role. and then, from there, the president wanted to come out and take an even bigger role. it made sense, according to a lot of experts, to have this task force based out of the white house. in a way that it hadn't been before. before azar, alex azar, the hhs secretary, had been running it. but there are now so many cooks involved, so many people who are involved in it that it's just
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hard to know exactly what's coming from where. >> maggie, david gergen, appreciate it. thanks. when we come back, we are going to take a look at what is the holdup with the testing? more tests are certainly available. that is certainly good news. there's a lot more than there were. but we are going to take a look at what happened and what the problems are now. we'll be right back. paying too much for insurance is painful. like being stuck in the middle seat. but with esurance, you could save an average of $462. it's as easy as switching seats. really? hi, dennis quaid. when i was little i lived in a tent for a whole summer. when insurance is affordable, it's surprisingly painless.
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and welcome back. we're -- or i'm broadcasting from my house. somebody on our staff believes that they may have coronavirus. just out of an abundance of caution, i'm going to be broadcasting from my home.
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at least for the -- the time being. we have been taking a look at the testing. the issues that have been going on for quite some time. and we all know what the problem -- that there have been problems from the get go. there have been a lot of promises about a million tests being sent out. and then millions more. and that if you went to your doctor, with the doctor's permission, anybody could get a test as long as they had doctor's permission. that wasn't true. anyway, we are where we are. wanted to take a look at what the status is right now. cnn's drew griffin has been looking into that. let's take a listen to his report. drew. >> reporter: how did the united states end up in this position? with a desperate shortage of coronavirus tests. a shortage of supplies to administer these tests. even a shortage of protective equipment for medical workers. the u.s. government knew the virus was coming back in the beginning of january. on january 8th, when the cdc published an emergency health
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advisory on a reported cluster of pneumonia of unknown origin in wuhan, china. medical experts tell cnn the trump administration failed to act at this critical time. >> what we see is the lack of preparation over the last two months has now put us in a terrible position. >> in late january, the first u.s. case of coronavirus was identified in washington state. but while chinese officials began locking down the city of wuhan, president trump was in davos, switzerland, telling the world that china's problem would not be the world's pandemic. >> we have it totally under control. >> trump barred most non-u.s. citizens from flights coming in from china. but behind the scenes, mistakes were already being made. as the number of cases climbed to over 35,000 cases worldwide, the cdc was creating a test. is a slower process that included sending tests to public
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health labs to make sure the tests would work. those public labs found out the test was flawed. >> so they immediately reported that. and cdc began an investigation very quickly. but more and more labs, as they were verifying this through the coming days, also found the same problem. >> three crucial weeks, testing was at a near standstill while the cdc tried to fix the problem and the u.s. health system was flying blind. the virus, spreading across america. and u.s. health officials had no way to test for it. >> that kept us from having visibility on domestic transmission of the virus for weeks and weeks and weeks. >> when the cdc's new test was finally fixed and ready, there weren't enough to fill demand. this letter shows public health laboratories begging the fda to relax restrictions and allow them to create their own tests. it happened within days but in a race to contain it, the virus was well ahead. by march 6th, there are 100,000 cases worldwide and more confusion from the administration. >> anybody that wants a test can get a test. >> reporter: when the president said these words across the
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country shortages were everywhere. today, the shortages of tests include just about everything needed to administer the test. >> there are shortages on many pieces of it. >> public health officials say it just didn't need to be this bad. two years earlier, the white house made another potentially dangerous mistake. laying aside the pandemic response unit within the national security council. though, the white house says the same roles exist, just under different titles. the team president obama had bolstered to combat global pandemics after an ebola outbreak was gone. critics say that trump administration decision hampered efforts with coronavirus. i think it made us slower and it made us more prone to mistakes. >> jeremy konyndyk who used to run disaster assistance for u.s. aid said testing to swabs can be traced back to that one decision. beth cameron, who under barack obama, ran the pandemic response
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unit, says there is no doubt. >> but would we have gotten more ahead of this if the office had still been intact? i think, absolutely. >> the president who ultimately said he didn't know anything about disbanding the pandemic team and also defended it now denies his coronavirus response has been anything but perfect. >> we were very prepared. the only thing we weren't prepared for was the -- the media. >> drew griffin. cnn, atlanta. >> and joined now by dr. sanjay gupta and dr. leana wen. sanjay, the idea that the only thing they weren't prepared for was the media is -- i mean, it would be laughable if this was not a deadly pandemic. it's -- it's just pathetic, actually, right now. the testing. can you just explain -- sorry, go ahead. >> just -- you know, one thing i was going to say and i think this is an important point, is that some of the data -- and this is the thing i've been so focused on the last few weeks. the number of hospital beds, the number of icu beds, the number of breathing machines, ve
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ventilators that were necessary, that are necessary, is based on the federal government's own modeling. okay? this is their data. they ever an idea for a moderate pandemic. not even a severe pandemic. for a moderate pandemic, what was going to be necessary. even after you start to mitigate the spread and make what was going to be necessary. and when they bought that time because they had these large quarantines in china, when they bought that time because they quarantined passengers coming out of wuhan, they -- the time should have been used to -- to -- to prepare. and that -- that's the part that i think is going to end up being one of the most frustrating things in all this as patients go to these hospitals. not able to get some of these critical resources to help treat them. to help save their lives. that could've been done. i mean, that -- that's -- you know, maybe -- maybe it's one of those things that we'll analyze more carefully later. but i got to tell you, anderson, that part should have been handled. >> and, dr. wen, i mean, the fact that at this point, nobody in a position of authority will
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say or can say, you know what, it's going to be in place five days from now. it's going to be in place two weeks from now. it's not. it's all this sort of endless happy talk of, well, at the direction of the president, we have sent a strong response. i mean, every time vice president pence says at the direction of the president, you know, it's clear why he's doing that because he has to, you know, constantly show deference to the president. but no one can just give a date and just stand up and stay, you know, yes, it's not right. dr. fauci has come close saying we're not where we need to be on testing. but no one can say when we will be there. >> that's right. and we don't need to hear the blame and let's figure out what happened. let's move forward. i mean, we have to navigate from where we are now. but at least let's set a timeline. and the timeline needs to be when these tests will physically be in the hands of clinicians, who can then administer is to their patients. i don't want to hear more about millions of tests being made. when, at the end of the day,
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it's about when our front line providers will be able to access these tests to make clinical decisions and to guide public health decisions. >> right. again, i mean, i don't want to keep harping on this because, obviously, the president's facing a very difficult task. but it's been made more difficult by the fact that he didn't believe it for a long time. a though he stopped people from coming from china or stopped flights coming from china, which was certainly a good move, and good for him for doing it, he also sat around with diamond and silk praising, you know, praising how famous they'd become. and talking about, you know, that this could just miraculously disappear, come april, from our shores. so for him to not even be able to say how many companies he actually talked to in telling them to make more ventilators, which he claims he's done but he can't say how many companies he's actually talked to. just saying many. it tamakes a lot of people belie he's just really riffing and not actually telling the truth. because seems to have no problem
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and we're back taking your questions. dr. sanjay gupta is here and dr. leana wen. emergency room physician. also, the former health director in city of baltimore. first question -- sorry, i'm doing the show from my iphone and i just locked out of this. first question. this comes from facebook. she writes how soon can we have the results of the first phase of the ongoing vaccine trial? sanjay? >> so we met one of the patients. first patients in the trial last night, anderson. you remember neil. so i think there's 45 patients. all, sort of 18 to 55 years old. it's going to be about six weeks. i think they get two shots over the period of six weeks and then probably a little built of time after that to look at the data. so my guess is the probably next
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two toe three months we'll probably see phase one results come back. there is still phase two and phase three after that. >> when people hear six weeks, that sounds really soon. i mean, even it's really fast paced and fast tracked, is it true you are still looking at 18 months or so? >> yeah. originally, dr. fauci said, you know, a year would be fast. i think when people are asking the question, they want to know when could i possibly get the vaccine? so maybe a year before the results come in. but then you got -- you got to manufacture and scale that up. so probably 18 months before people could actually benefit from the vaccine. >> right. well, let's hope it's better than the getting the testing because we know how that's been. dr. wen, we have a question that came in on facebook. michelle wants to know what advice would you give us nurses as we prepare to treat so many patients suffering with coronavirus? you know, doctors been getting a lot of shoutouts and you are both doctors and we love you. but i do want to give a special shoutout to nurses, x-ray technicians, lab technicians. all these folks who just make
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everything possible and who are just doing heroic work. but what's your advice, dr. wen, to nurses? >> well, i also want to add my thanks to -- to her and to all the front-line healthcare workers out there who are putting their lives on the line every day. i'd say, please, take care of yourself. i know this is hard, especially as we're talking about the lack of protective equipment for nurses but please take care of your physical health. please take care of your mental health and the health of loved ones around you. and for those who are watching who know a healthcare worker, respiratory therapist, a pharmacist, technician, doctor, nurse, et cetera, please reach out to them and say thank you. and i just want to mention a social media campaign that's been circulating that breaks my heart, and inspires me at the same time. and it's i stayed at work for you. you -- please, stay at home for me. >> yeah. and we've seen some amazing pictures. we showed some at the town hall last night. i don't think we're showing them right now. we really don't have our staff. everybody on our entire staff is
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a book that you're ready to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! hey, welcome back. we're taking your questions, dr. sanjay gupta and dr. wen. laura from facebook, how do you effectively quarantine if you
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have family, kids and pets? and my own question, if someone you work with or someone you know, a friend has tested positive or taken the test, thinks they have it, what do you do? do you self-quarantine? for how long? even if it's not if they're positive yet or if they're definitely positive and you've been around them a little bit, should you self-quarantine? >> with the first question, if you're trying to quarantine inside your own house, it can be challenging obviously if it's small quarters but you have to set aside a room that you can call your own, make sure you're using your own utensils and trying to keep a physical distance as much as possible. i know it's challenging sometimes in houses, more so from the humans and pets. animals may be the vector for this but it's unlikely you'd transmit it to your pets. with regard to the second question, two different scenarios, if you've been around
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somebody who has tested positive for the coronavirus, it depends a little bit on were they sick and symptomatic at the time you were spending time with them, that would put you in a higher risk category. if you were not, you should monitor for your own symptoms. it's a bit arbitrary but some doctors would recommend quarantine for 72 hours. if the person is under investigation, and not tested positive, i think you have to wait for that test to come back. there is really nothing to do until the test comes back. if the person was clearly symptomatic and you're really worried the person is going to come back positive, you should go ahead and quarantine yourself. these are guidelines that change on a regular basis on the cdc's web site. we've been putting it together ourselves to provide the best guidance. the highest risk situation is someone who is positive and symptomatic. if you had prolonged contact with somebody like that, you should definitely quarantine and
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if you develop symptoms, get tested. >> sanjay and dr. wen, thank you so much. up next, during the coronavirus crisis, 75 million americans right now living in four state have been told to stay home as much as possible. don't go to work unless you're in an absolutely essential industry, if you work in a hospital, if you work in a food supply, grocery store, food delivery, pharmacies, stay at home, isolate yourself three to six feet from people if you do go out at all. also, a member of the vice president's staff testing positive for the virus, all the latest developments when we come back.
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because this isn't our network... it's yours. hey, i'm anderson cooper in new york city. i'm joining you from my house. some of my staff may have tested positive for coronavirus. so out of an abundance of caution, i'm broadcasting from my house, my staff are at their houses this evening. i don't have any symptoms, i feel fine. it's out of an abundance of caution. a lot to get you caught up. the three largest cities are now or will soon be all but completely shut down. stay at home orders in new york, chicago and los angeles. california, the state of new york, also in the state of illinois and in connecticut as well. tens of millions of people now