he worked in the equipment room at 30 rock in new york city. he travelled around the world for the network. he had seen a lot of things. he was the type of guy you wanted to be by your side according to his colleague. they called him a gentle bear of a man who always had your back. he was 61 years old. our coverage of the coronavirus continues right now, i want to hand it over to chris for cuomo prime time. >> thank you very much. i am chris cuomo, welcome to prime time. we're still at the studio in new york city. i don't know how long that will be the case. people at cnn and at all the companies that are broadcasting to you are so committed. but the realities are more cases by the hour. more importantly, hospitalizations in a place like new york are only increasing and rapidly. our ability to treat the worst cases is not growing as quickly. if those are the facts. why is the president talking tonight as if america could be

ready to open up shop as soon as a week from today. what is the reality of where things stand in the home of wall street? the new york governor knows the answer and we will get straight talk from him on where are we really? how long are we looking at? most likely? we also have the former acting homeland security chief to lay out how hard is what government is trying to do. how hard is it? and what still needs to be done? now, for the rest of us, we know the remedy for what ails us, don't we? we have to be informed, we have to be ready and we have to be our best. together as ever as one. let's get after it. president trump says he will not let the cure be worse than the problem. the problem is, there is no cure yet, and the only thing that

every expert from everywhere in the world, the only thing they say we can do to stop the spread is what, isolate? and it seems like the president thinks he may have a better idea. >> our country wasn't built to be shut down. we're not going to let the cure be worse than the problem. at the end of the 15 day period we'll make a decision as to which way we want to go. i'm not looking at months, i can tell you right now. >> look, no one wants the economy to struggle. what we've done here is balanced financial hardship with avoiding extreme illness that could debilitate us for who knows how long? are we now comfortable with the idea that it's two weeks and then over? the leader who knows the we ailty better than any other right now at least in new york is the governor of new york. andrew cuomo, of course, my brother. thank you for coming back to the show. >> mom told me i had to.

>> what was your reaction to what the president said about i'm not looking at months, i'm not going to let the elephant jump off the ledge because of a cat, whatever he said. we're looking to open back up, surprised? >> i'm not surprised. the president is very concerned about the economy, right? the economy was doing well, the economy is now truly suffering. the consequences haven't even been felt yet, because not only have you stopped the revenue machine, you've increased the expense machine, okay? so those two things are going to compound each other. so the president is eager to get back to the economy, everybody agrees this is an unsustainable situation. you can't keep spending money and close down the economy. and the president is eager to get it opened as quickly as possible. i actually have a group that is working on the restart of the economy because i get it too. this is new york, and we're with the home of so much of this. so coming up with the plan to

restart the economy is very important. i think the -- but this, you don't want to -- it's a false choice to say public health or restart the economy. nobody's going to make that choice. and by the way, if you have to make that choice, it's public health. you cannot put a value on a human life. nobody cares how long it takes to get the economy up and running if you saved lives. but there is an art form here, which is overlaying a public health strategy and an economic strategy. what we did is, we just closed everything down as quickly as we could. just the -- shut all the doors border all the windows. there was no art to what we did, no new answer. is there a public health strategy that says, look, you can start to bring young people back to work? you can start to test and find out who had the virus and who resolved from the virus, and they can start to go back to

work? and that's how we'll restart the economy with a smart public health strategy? closing the door on everyone was only because we didn't know better, right? if you now look at it, it didn't make any sense to close the schools, send my kids home with me or older people, with grandmothers who were vulnerable to this virus. and young people were then maybe bringing it into the house. we didn't have any data or science to instruct us. but now you can come up with a smarter public health strategy that actually protects older people. let's younger people get back to work. and that can start the economic recovery. but it has to be that smart. it can't be reactive, it can't be emotional. >> this is the part i don't get. from watching the coverage of

what's going on in the state. the rate of hospitalizations seems to be increasing, it seems like you're just starting to feel what this enemy, this war is really about. so how can people make sense and reconcile these two things, we're getting close to figuring out how to open things back up at a time when it seems to be getting worse, and the idea that a month from today we may have the worst part of the capacity crisis and the president is saying he's going to reopen things in a week or so? it doesn't seem like those can go together. >> well, the so-called walk and chew gum. do we have to think about restarting the economy? yes. should we be thinking about a public health strategy that starts the economy? that to me is the art form for government in this situation. but what we're looking at right now is this wave of increasing

cases. i just got off the phone with a new projection model that new york city was seeing double the number of cases every 2 1/2 days, that can take your breath away. that curve they keep talking about, we have to flatten the curve, that is a wave. that is a tsunami. that's the scene in the perfect storm where george clooney is trying to go up the wave and he gives the boat all the gas he can to try to get over the top of the wave, and the wave crashes over him. the wave is going to crash over our health care system. it will crash anywhere from 10 days to 3 weeks. >> from now? >> it is going to overwhelm the health care system. and where we're going to feel it most, we can scramble and create

beds, we'll have a staff problem because staff are getting sick, and we're doing everything we can to find reserve staff. we won't have the equipment and we won't have the ventilators. i have been saying for weeks, we need 30,000 ventilators. i've been saying publicly, i've been requesting it from the federal agencies, hhs, secretary aczar sent 500 ventilators, we need 30,000 ventilators. if you don't have the ventilator, a person who needs the ventilator will die without the ventilator. it's a respiratory disease. and we're not getting the ventilators. i've been saying, institute the darn federal procurement act -- >> why do you think he doesn't do it? >> command companies to produce -- >> why wouldn't he do it?

>> their theory is, companies are voluntarily saying i want to help, i want to help. general motors is saying, i'll get into the ventilator business, that's all well and fine and it is a nice thing, corporations are doing great things. but you can't -- you can't manage an operation on this ad-hoc basis of people saying, i'm going to give it a go. order the ventilators, pay for the ventilators, say this is how much i -- >> why wouldn't he do it? >> because they're theory of operation is public/private seconder partnership. you've seen them at press conferences, peter navarrnavarr companies are coming forward and saying we'll do it anyway. we don't have to order them because they're doing it. it's a totally different theory of operating. >> let's do this, governor, i'm sorry to interrupt you -- >> i want specific numbers.

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we're back with the governor of new york, andrew cuomo. you talked about ventilators right there at the end, they gave us 500, question need tens of thousands. what do you do? >> we need 30,000. first what i do, i say to secretary azar, look at the first word in the name of the department you run, it's called health and human services. you look at the projections in new york. you look at the hospitalization rate. look at how many people are going to an icu and have to be vented. tell me how we save these lives without the 30,000 ventilators. we're trying to buy the ventilators all across the globe. that's why the federal government should step up and do it. third, we're going to try an untested technology where we split the ventilator tubes.

normally it's one ventilator to one person. is there a way to take that and split it -- >> you're the mechanic, do you have enough power to split it? >> you have enough power in the pump to split it, but can you split that ventilator into two tubes for two patients, three tubes for three patients. they're trying things like this in italy. the tricky thing is, the ventilator has a set pressure, normally you regulate the pressure to that patient's lungs. my lung capacity is better than your lung capacity. how do you put two people on that same ventilator, so we're working through that. this is a real stretch, chris. because you don't have the number of ventilators. >> i'll talk about your newfound confidence 234 a second. new drug therapies the president puts a lot of stock in.

can you hear me, governor? can you hear me or no? >> this is a great chance for me to say some things to him. do you hear me now? you never know with a politician if they really don't hear you, or they didn't like where the questions were going. let me see if we can get him back online. >> what happened? >> can you hear me now? >> i lost -- >> let me do this, i'll take a quick commercial, we'll get him back online. i want to try to get you the information on. where does he see these drug therapies going in terms of how many weeks and months. why are people paying attention to new york in a way that the president doesn't seem to. why are so many of you resonating with what's happening in that state and with this governor? i'll figure out why he didn't like the question once it became a little uncomfortable, next.

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all right, let's bring the governor back, we think we fixed the audio problem, do you hear me, governor? >> i hear you, but you should pay your phone bill. >> i think the problem is on the state's infrastructure side. we'll deal with that later. one problem at a time, if you will. drug therapies, the president seems to have faith in them. they're all over the internet, people are getting better. you put any stock in any of that at this point? >> i put hope. we have three drugs we're looking at. one comes in tomorrow, the president skpe dietzed the fda approval. we have a second drug that new

york state is working on developing, that actually tests the plasma of people who had the virus, extracts the antibodies and injects those antibodies into someone who's dealing with the virus. the third drug is testing the blood to see if you had the virus and have the antibodies and have resolved, that would let you know you had it, are immune by most probability and you can go back to work. >> there's hope, but again that all takes time, and there's impeer six in that. i would like to take a turn on that quickly. what is this straight talk on what it's like working with the white house right now. i've heard you be defrn shall to the white house and say, look, we're trying it, we're doing it. it seems like your needs are not decreasing, at the kind of rate you need them to deal with a tsunami. what is the reality of dealing with the white house, straight talk? >> yeah, i always do straight talk. i would disagree with your use

of the word deferential, but it's your show. don't forget i've been clear with the white house. i have an immediate problem on the equipment for this wave that is happens, ppe's, gowns, masks, most important are the ventilators. and there has been no response. there has been no response. that's why i said right here, looking at the camera on your show. to secretary azar, he has to be responsible here. christopher, people will die who need a ventilator, they will be mostly elderly, they'll have an underlying illness, that's true. but some can be younger like anderson cooper's show showed us, you can have an underlying illness, be recovering from cancer, be younger, you will need a ventilator and won't get it. we're trying this splitting mechanism but we shouldn't be

here. when we get to two weeks and you have people in hospitals who are dying because we don't have ventilators, that's going to be a national tragedy. we'll try all the drugs, i'm trying everything else, we're working on every level, but if you don't have the ventilators, and you have them or you don't. >> what is the day like now, how is it managing a situation like this, in terms of the daily activities, what is this like? >> well, this is 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and look, i've been in the federal government, i did disaster work, all across this country, all across the world, we did disaster recovery as you know, i've been in this state, handled everything in this state. it's the hours don't matter, it's the consequence here, it's the consequence here, the numbers are big. and it's life and death and if

they are anywhere close to right on these projections of how quickly these numbers are going to grow. the number of people who we're going to lose can easily be in the thousands. and god forbid we say -- we could have saved them if we had the right equipment. that's what keeps me up at night. and that's why i'm as strident as i am about these ventilators and the urgency of the ventilators and the equipment. it literally is life and death, you see it coming, it's two weeks, three weeks, four weeks down the road, it's coming, that wave is coming. >> what do you say to the people on the -- ah, we misjudged it, the numbers aren't going to be that bad, this was too much preparation. >> yeah, they're wrong, they're going to be wrong, people will die and the numbers will be

inarguable. i don't make any political decisions on this, this is all follow the science, follow the numbers, follow the health professionals, you look at those numbers increasing every day, doubling every 2 1/2 days, just look at the trajectory, dot dot dot dot dot -- connect the dots, right? and then you tell me that anyone is over hyping this situation? >> let me ask you something, why do you think new york is getting so much attention right now and people have such a spotlight on you that they're watching your pressers every day, what do you think it's about personally? >> i think it's because new york we have this density, we are the gateway to the world -- the disease came here, the disease is growing here faster than anywhere else. so just on the numbers, new york is the epicenter. >> do you think that -- when you assess this, people assess, what

was the right move you've made so far and what was a wrong move you made. the president talks about learning things and then he talks about washing hands. what have you learned on your level? >> yeah, first, thank you for the compliment. i don't want to be -- have total association with you and your show, i don't need all that negativity. >> into the right now, you're the man right now, why is that? >> because i'm your brother, that's why. >> the best decision was closing everything down. which politically may have terrible consequences, but so what, it was the right thing to do. that's what pop taught us, you do the right thing. the worst decision which is a lousy question by you, is probably coming on your show, frankly. >> what have you learned in

terms of what you could have handled better sooner, that seems to be the lesson, states we're listening to what we've seen from the federal level, what is the lesson for how to prepare for the next wave that you'll do differently? >> every disaster has its own little hidden trick in it. this one was medical capacity, medical equipment and these ventilators. i does not see -- no one saw these ventilators coming, and the urgency of ventilators, how many we have in this country and how many we can make. that i don't think anyone saw. i was watching china, and it was inevitable what was happening in china was going to happen here. there was no theory that their immune systems were different than ours. we started very early on, getting ready, preparing, blowing the whistle, blowing the horn, making the case, the

ventilators, not having the ventilators and not being able to get the ventilators and the ppe equipment, which the federal government could help us with, that is the greatest frustration in all of this. >> you got to get it right, there's going to be another wave, right? if you look at the models, it goes down and comes back. not to use 1918 as a go to, but that was the huge miss in that situation. how do you get to where you need to be where people don't live through this a second time the same way? >> yeah, i'm old. but i wasn't here in 1918, but you're right, the medical capacity, we have a health care system that is basically a private health care system. they have private economics. they have capacity that they can sell. they don't build beds as backup beds. they don't build additional icu beds for a public health emergency. these are expensive beds, it's

expensive real estate, so they don't have a backup public health equipment stockpile that's worth anything. or a backup medical capacity, that has to change. that has to change. >> it's going to get worse, the hospitalizations are increasing, you want people to know that even though it's a tough message to deliver. that type of tough talk has had people recognize you in a different way even though you've been doing this job a long time. you're in your third term. how do you explain to yourself how people seem to be seeing you in a different way now, even physically making comments about how you look and how you come across that are really hard to kind of square with any sense of reality. >> because it's not reality. i'm doing the same job i've done all the ways that i did in washington, that i've been doing here in the state of new york. you know what it reminds me of, it reminds he of pop, he used to

talk about how he gave the same speech and then one day he gave the democratic national convention speech, and then he became great and after that speech everybody said wow! your speeches are so great. and dad's point was, it was the same speech i was always giving, but the lens changed. the only thing that happened here is the lens changed. i'm doing what i do, and i've been doing it the same way, and i look the same as i've always looked. >> to be fair, the reason pop -- >> i'll get back to that. >> one, i'm hearing your finger nails scratch on something like you're nervous. i know you're busy. what happened with pop was, he delivered the right speech at the right time and it was seen by so many. that's what you're doing right now that is being recognized and given a claim. you're doing the job the right way when it matters when eyes are on you, thank god for that. the looks have to make you

question the veracity of the -- it must be very confusing for you, because you know that what people are saying about how you look really can't be accurate. it must be hard for you to make sense of what is real and what is true now. i feel for you. >> jealousy, yeah. >> always straight, right across the plate. straight across the plate. >> don't worry, there's still time, there's hope for you. one day you can grow up to be like me. >> i tried to be like you my whole life, look where it got me. governor andrew cuomo, thank you very much for doing the job, thank you for caring for the family. i love you, i'll talk to you after this. >> better than me. you're better than me. >> only on basketball court. >> never, never, never. don't lie. >> that's what pop said. >> never. >> you never beat me. not once. >> he said andrew has tremendous

capability, he is blessed in many ways but he's got hands like bananas and he can't ball. just saying, you're doing a great job, though. >> i'll see you soon. be well, governor. >> love you. >> i do love him. the tension is real, though. the pressure is real as well. it can't be true that we're a week or so away from getting back. and that the hospitalization rate is going up and up and up and not getting the equipment they need to deal with the need. those two things can't exist in the universe. we need to have these conversations. another conversation to have, we are obsessed with the number of indications. and, of course, with the number of people who are succumbing to the illness, anderson is doing beautiful obituary pieces, eulogies of people who have passed. what number should we be facing and dealing with, that i argue

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staying informed, being prepared. that's why the data is important. dr. sanjay gupta is here to help us. thank you, as always. i'm in awe of you always, but the way you're calling right now when you know how long we have to go, impressive. let's deal with the context. the president says, i'm not looking at months, we're looking at getting back online. i just had my brother on, he sees a tsunami coming in 3 or 4 weeks. those two propositions don't exist in the same universe, what did you make of it. >> i mean, i think look, if you -- if any public health

official, anybody who's looking at this data, the data we do have is being honest, they would say there's no way. >> first of all, as we talked about, chris, we are behind the curve in terms of testing, and what i mean by that is not just the inadequate testing, people who are testing positive now were likely exposed several days ago, took a few more days to get their test results, it could be 10 to 14 days behind, we know during the last 10 to 14 days there's been more spread. if anything, the numbers are going to go up. it's not just the numbers going up. it's the pace at which they're going up, it's the inertia of all this as well. take some of the fuel out of the fire of this inertia. . i don't see anyway you can reconcile those two things, i know it's painful and it's a tough balance, from a public health respect it's very clear. >> from the numbers, and what we look at, we're limited in our

resources now, how we're broadcasting, i'm going to be using this white board to put some numbers up for people. in new york, there are 20,875 positive cases, okay? here's the metric i'm not hearing enough about that i want you to discuss. 13% of the number of 20,875, that's the hospitalization rate. isn't in a the number that really matters? who's in the hospital? and conversecy, who's case has been resolved? we don't hear about resolved cases, and the hospitalization rate seems to get short shrift to the case number. help me make sense of it. >> first of all, it was a binary thing that was being presented initially. either people who lived or die, that's what we're hearing mostly, then we were hearing that the vulnerable populations, even then we weren't getting a lot of detail on exactly what

was happening to them, whether they lived or died. now we're hearing the hospitalization rate. it gets a little bit more tricky in terms of the data, we know that 20% of the people hospitalized are between the ages of 20 and 44, they are likely to survive, very likely to survive, the hospitalization is significant and the recovery is significant. your last question, i think the most important question, recovery. how do we determine what recovery means ed? does this mean they no longer have the virus? they no longer have any symptoms whatsoever, different places are defining it differently. but it's a very important question, i started doing some digging, and it's actually surprisingly hard to come by, this very important number, what is the percentage of recovery? we hear 80% of people are likely to recover, but we don't know what the actual numbers are right now, chris. >> i'll tell you what's freaky, i looked at china, i'll put the

numbers up for people, 81,093 cases confirms. 3,270 deaths. 72,703 patients cured and discharged from the hospital. at once that gives you hope that wow! 72,000 of 81,000 were cures and discharged. but then 72,000 of 891 cases had to be hospitalizeds? i mean, that's really spooky. do you take confidence from it? or is that a high rate of hospitalization? >> yeah, no, that's a good point. i take the former from it, i looked at some of the data as well, it wasn't clear to me they were all hospitalized, some were seen in the clinics, some did get additional treatment. that's 88% roughly the number you're quoting there, and that's good, i mean, that's even higher than we initially heard, because

we were hearing it was closer to 80%. about 15% were in critical condition. 15% in severe condition. these are actually a little bit better numbers. what we're hearing in the united states is about 12 to 13% of people who are getting the coronavirus are being hospitalized. the biggest age group there is people 65 to 84, the 20 to 44-year-olds, that was the second biggest age group here. small data, we're still collecting it, that's the best data we have right now, we have to better define what it means to be recovered, recovered, back to 100% normal or just out of the hospital, i think we're going to have to more clearly define that. >> you were right about the young people. now we hear the president saying, maybe they get back to work. we have to track the right data to get a read on where we are. thank you for the strength and consistency for the audience.

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important week on a variety of levels, you look back at a crisis, you can see a point where you start to take con certificated action, there are a lot of things that happened last week with the activation of fema to alert level one. coordinating better with the state and local governments, you saw vaccines going into testing, anti-virals going into clinical tests. so part of that was some nonpartisan unity emerging on the hill. they got two pieces of legislation done that would support the crisis. the bill on the economy is more important. propping up and the airline and hospitality industry that needs that relief, helping our employees that are on a paycheck to paycheck basis or gig economies. we have to get that flowing. >> 50 states all have exposure to the pandemic. how do you handle something like that on the federal level? >> the scale and the scope of

this crisis is just massive and it's unlike anything i've seen. the last emergency i oversaw at dhs was hurricane dorian, we had four states implicated, a devastating effect on the bahamas off the coast. the level of information was absolutely overwhelming. think about a 50-state krois is with 150 countries abroad all with different experiences facing this virus. data driven analysis will help make good policy, keep the decisions flowing, better response to the crisis will get us through this. >> why no dhs on the table on the task force? >> they are there. acting secretary chad wolf is there. he has been instrumental in advising on the travel restrictions, the arteries at the northern and southern border. >> shouldn't he be one of the

main seats? isn't the agency right up the alley on this? >> i think they are there. the added recommendation to have fema take the lead and have health and human services in bed at the fema operation center is a great combination of the muscle of fema and its connections to emergency managers in the states with the cdc health expertise embedded. >> do you think you need to have the power to trigger manufacturing done? you heard my brother's argument earlier. it's all about ventilators and the only way they will get them is if the companies are told to make them. >> we have to have the ventilateors made. i am hearing the same thing, governors asking for support across the country. we need to prioritize that in places like new york.

fema is supposed to manage that process. working with what we have in the stockpile combining with the needs in the regions experiencing this virus and going to the private sector to fill this gap. they are looking at that now. that is a massive challenge to get that flowing logistically. >> let me ask you something. first i ask you please come back because i need you more on the show to help explain these situations. i wish i had more time with you tonight. quickly, tony fauci. how important was he? >> he is a national treasure. he will give you the hard facts even if they don't accord with the hoped for path.

i saw him in the ebola crisis. he is indicative of the kind of civil servants we have to get the job done. i would be honored to come back. how you are informing the viewers is good. we have to be accountable and we have to be ready for a hard course ahead. but the machinery is pushing threw in a good way. >> you have always answered my questions. you are always welcome on my show. thank you. see you soon. why did i ask dr. anthony fauci? he wasn't on the podium again today. i have an argument about what's

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fa not seeing dr. anthony fauci on stage today worried me, and it should worry you. you know the doctor. he is like america's grandpa. he gives conscious and fact to this country and uniquely so. today instead in his absence we got this -- >> with this briefing -- >> i was just with him for a long time and -- he has a task force meeting right now. he was there. >> does he agree about the need on the economy soon. >> he doesn't not agree.

>> doesn't matter and here is why. is dr. fauci important to our economic decisions? no. do you know what is more dangerous than covid, telling the truth about trump as a member of the executive branch. no one survives that. why put fauci in a position that trump is wrong or lying when we know that is the case. sometimes you leave fauci with no good answer other than what do you want me to do. the answer is help me get through this. fauci must be kept bigger than the politics of trump. just as our collective well-being has led away from the petty gripe for lawmakers not to be right or left, but reasonable. more people are getting sick. i do not see how we get through this better or faster without tony fauci present and up front.

let's test trump's truth abuse direct l directly and have fauci test solutions to this pandemic. thank you for watching. done lemon starts now. >> friday you worked because i worked sunday. thank you for doing that. here is the thing. as i'm watching i kept saying why are we even listening to the president. but he's the president, i understand that. why aren't we listening to the experts. i kept watching your brother. my mom was calling and said is chris's brother the president? he should be. and then she will call me during the president, why are we listening to him. he is not talking about anything factual, why is he yelling at