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continuing our coronavirus coverage. governor cuomo just delivered his news conference. he says the need of dire beds are in the tens of thousands. >> the conclusion is that the in rate of infection is going up. the apex is higher than we thought. the apex is sooner than we thought. that's a bad combination of facts. so slow the spread, we'll still keep doing what we can. it is clear that we must dramatically increase the hospital capacity to meet that highest apex. >> new york is the epicenter. 16 states have issued stay-at-home order to force social distancing. other states are also moving to close non-essential businesses.

president trump is looking to open the economy sooner rather than later. healthcare workers much needed supplies. fema telling cnn after days of mixed signals that the government is implement the defense production acts to get more test kits and better distribute masks. back to cuomo now, new york now has ten times as many cases as many states. governor cuomo says the federal government is not helping fast. the governor says he needs 30,000 ventilators and he needs it now. our shimon prokupecz is in new york. shim shimon, now is an extraordinary news conference to go with unloading and dripping disdain and mocking tone at the federal government.

>> reporter: he certainly was. you have to listen to this for an hour describing how the state is in need of dire help, ventilators he keeps on talking about. at one point he said release 20,000 ventilators and send them to the state. it is very clear based on what he seen and the projections. he's saying the apex is going to be higher and it is going to come much sooner. we are talking about 14 days perhaps, it is 14 to 21 days. he's mostly saying 14 days when we can start seeing the effect of this. he's tacalling for hospital bed. one of the staggering numbers of all this is today is up more than 700 people as a result of this disease around new york state are now intensive care units. that's going to run out at some

point. those ventilators he's goi keep talking about, those are going to run out in the state. more needs to be released. he's also saying that what's happening here is going to happen in other places in the country and that we should be a test case that the way you do this here should be setting examples for how it is done all across the country which this is going to happen to him he says. here is how he describes it, john. >> we are just a test case. we are just a test case. that's how the nation should look at it. look at us today. where we are today, you will be in three weeks or four week or six weeks. we are your future. >> just some other numbers. the numbers are sobering in all

of this, too. 90,000 people have been tested in the state. 25,000 have come back positive. that number is obviously going to increase. what's so important in all of this is we saw a different tone here from the governor. he's been out here talking and more sobering and more grind today. i don't think he could have gotten any stronger of any of his words and more dire in the need for these ventilators. these 20,000 ventilators that's hauling on for the government to release and as i said earlier release the ventilatorventilato. that's what it is all about now. he's getting these hospital beds ready and getting these ventilators and the nurse and the doctors the protected gear they so need in the coming days as the apex approaches. we are talking 14 to 21 days.

much sooner and much faster and quicker certainly than the governor has expected and has said and he's calling on the federal government to provide the state with the help that he need and the ventilators and the other equipment, john. >> the urgency in his voice and sometimes mocking in his criticism. the federal government says some but not all ventilators, you pick the 26,000 people who are going to die. that from the governor of new york directed to the federal government today. shimon propekupecz on the groun for us. let's get to kaitlan collins. the governor of new york says he agr agrees with the president but the way he sees what the white house is doing is clumsy. >> reporter: they're so interesting talking about how

thises going to be cord mated between federal and state levels how they're going to handle this. so far the question is how are they going to pursue this. last night in the press briefing the president is intent on easing these guidelines he put in place a week ago when they come to the deadline they put in place a week from now. the president made it clear with the coronavirus task force that this is something he wants to move forward with. they're trying to figure out ways to do it. they got several options on the table. none of these have been set in stones yet. one of those is sending people under 40 back to work and doing by geography. are there certain areas where they have more people with cases of coronavirus where they should maintain stricter measures and other areas don't have as many cases can return to normal life. there are several options on the table as well, talking about age groups and nursing homes. the reason so many aids are trying to figure out what

they're going to do next and what their plans are going to be. the government wants to get the economy going again. he watches these numbers and he's not happy. they want to avoid the situation that health experts inside and outside the house are warning about this with the spread of the coronavirus. what the president says last night have any of the doctors on your team endorsing the idea of easing the guidelines this week. the president said no, he had discussed it but he thinks they're okay with it. they're trying to figure out what way forward are they fwogo to do and on a rolling basis. this is something the president does seem intent on doing. >> kaitlan collins. let's continue this conversation with two of our important

guests, our dr. sanjay gupta, i want to start with you. when you listen to governor cuomo, we think it is going to be 140,000, we thought apex already came but now within 14 or 21 days. you could not hear a more dire and urgent response from governor cuomo seeking desperation around the corner. >> yes. there is no question. i had a chance to speak to the governor as well about some of the issues. the situation unfolding right now was predictable. the number of ventilators that'll be necessary for the country, they knew how many they had. it did not match up. we known that for two months

now. just going to put that out there. that's a point, i don't want to look into the rear-view mirror too much. that's an important point. you heard shimon laid it out in terms of the concerns and the number of patients and the rates these patients access these medical system. a couple of interesting point the governor made, clearly new york state is early in the curve here, they are the state that has the highest number of patients who requires hospitalization, when we think of these ventilators, we are thinking ventilators for the country. the idea of using ventilators and patricking patieredicting p off ventilators and moving them around the country is an option he's laying it out there. not everyone is going to need the same number of ventilators at the same time. that's an important point. another thing that's going to continuously sort of coming up is this idea of when these

patients recover, they're not in the diagnosed category or hospitalized category, they come through already. these patients potentially are now protected from the virus. people have been talking about using their plasma as a therapy but also the possibility that the governor raised that could they be protected people who could go back to work earlier as far as returning to work gradual and and sort of policies. you are right, john, it was a dire picture he's presenting and dare i just finish again, a predictable one sadly. >> a predictable one sadly. >> governor, jump into the conversation here. you just listened to andrew cuomo talking about how bad things are in the new york, he's trying to have a desperate conversation and kicking the federal government essentially saying help me. what is your situation in delaware and as you are listening to the governor, do

you believe, you are a much smaller state, you don't have a condense area like new york city but is this is coming to you and how confident are you on what you are hearing from washington, is fema going to send you what you need or is the president going to invoke the defense production act or just talk about it? >> certainly we have to prepare for the worst and pray for the best. new york is 19th times the population of delaware. we are barely a million people. we went from one positive case to 90 today with 7 hospitalizations. one of the things we know is that we don't know exactly what the positive rate is on the ground in our state because we did not do enough testings on the front end. we have ramped up the testing and we have been finding more and more cases. we know folks like dr. gupta and

dr. fauci reminded us the last two weeks that the number of cases of infection increases exponentially. the number accelerates very big and very fast. everybody needs to lean into this idea of social distancing that cease and desiwhy we are g stay-at-home order, we closed businesses and beaches and parks and so if we can flatten that curve for the last two weeks that's slowing down the infection rates. we have a chance on the back end with respect to hospital resources. we are here in delaware are looking and we have a working group with our hospitals looking at all the things that governor tuk talked about from the availability of hospital rooms to icu units and personnel and a real limiting factor to the

protective equipment and to the ventilators at the last stage. we continue to work on all those issues that affects our capacity to deal with the surge. first and fore most, people have to listen to our directives and stay home and keep social distance when you have to go into the public. >> to you first, in your view is it this moment every governor and mayor and the president of the united states wants to have a team of people working on when we can flip the switch, we need to get people back to work and the economy going backup again. is this the time to talk about it as the governor of new york lays out that dire situation. let's knock on wood and it stays that way. you are trying to get people stay-at-home so it does not get work. is it time for president to be

tweeting, people to return back to work. is it the time to talk about that or just plan and wait? >> no, it is time to talk about social distancing and staying home. it is talk about the fact that this infection rate accelerates exponentially and it will happen fast. we know the situation on the ground is worse than the positive tests that we already have. so the measure should be everybody stay put, stay out of groups in the public. when you go out make sure there is a safe distance between you and others, six feet or more. too many people in my state have not been paying attention to that message. as i drive around and seeing essential businesses that are out there working and i see folks too close together. we'll have to close that business down as well.

are we thinking about starting things up again? yes, we have a group thinking about that. that should not be our message right now. our message right now should be stay-at-home and stay safe and protect your seniors. that's where the hospitalization comes in as the discussion with governor cuomo with our most vulnerable population and our aunts and uncles who are over 70 years old. >> sanjay, the president says seniors can be watched over protectively and lovingly. again, if the president did not have a plan to reduce the economy and get things going, once we reach the point from a public health standpoint everybody felt it was safe and why. are we at that point? >> i don't think we are at that

point and not everyone cloooerc. if you look at china, their curve were eight weeks so we are talking about a couple of months. sit down with a piece of paper and sort that out, start with a thousand today and two days of 2,004,002 days after that, you will see how quickly these numbers go up. that's the real concern. as the point was made, what we are seeing right now is a picture from two weeks ago, right? because between the time someone is exposed, they develop enough symptoms to get tested and get tested and 10 to 14 days can go by. do we think the spread gone down during the 14 days? that's why you are seeing the l log arithmetic sort of growth right now. there is no number or rational a week from now next monday to say

now is the time to open things backup. it does not make sense. >> sanjay gupta, appreciate it. >> governor, appreciate this busy time you are coming here as well. we wish you the best for the people at delaware. >> congress is getting close to a deal on the coronavirus stimulus package. speaker nancy pelosi will join us live. the big idaho potato truck is touring america telling folks about idaho potatoes. and i want it back. what is it with you and that truck?

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close but not quite there. that's the word on capitol hill right now on what could be a $2 trillion stimulus package begins in the senate. the goal is to help americans and businesses devastating financial fallout from the coronavirus pandemic. some of the most vulnerable businesses are at risk or being left behind by congress during this pandemic. people he says won't get relief from the stimulus at least right now being debated.

josh silverman. any stimulus protections for your sector of the economy, who are we talking about here? >> we are talking about 57 million independent workers, taxpayer americans. think of wedding planner or fitness instructor or the 2.7 million creative entrepreneurs who sells on etsy and being a business of one is being a business of 10 or 20. they or their offloved ones get sick, they don't have a colleague that helps and they don't have a steady to stay on. they're really different and growing part of the economy. we need to make sure they are protected and included in this

provision. >> we don't know the kuscurrent details that's very important here and who gets covered and what's available to that. how does the proposal fall short when it comes to addressing those people. we think there are three particular areas where we want to make sure that independent workers are protected. and in the short term we think direct assistance is very important. these workers are going to feel the brunt harder than others. we think it is important that they get payment for their mortgages and the safety net needs to be expanded to cover

this important part of the work force particularly unemployment insurance. the vast majority of these workers do not qualify for unemployment insurance as constructed today. we also should expand the income tax spent, the safety net that's most successful and bipartisan to protect people for most vulnerable in poverty. those are the three areas for short and medium and long-term to be included. >> you talk about millions of people doing different things and a lot of it is one or two person businesses there. when the airlines shutdown. you can quantify how many employees they had in the impact. how do you keep track of these individuals who are spread out all of the country to get a sense that some are getting a sense of thriving, i suspect a lot are doing quite the opposite. >> it is hard to know exactly and things are changing day-to-day. we expect the vast majority are

getting hit very hard. if you are a wedding planner, there is not a lot of people doing weddings right now. if you want retail establishment, that's challenging. all of us are feeling economic d disdretress right now. people are kicking their pursestrings. the vast majority of these wo workers are feeling a meaningful impact. they have a lot of support for people working for companies. >> josh silverman the ceo of etsy. i want to bring in dana bash. what will congress do when it comes to the stimulus plan, dana? >> that's right, john. i am waiting to hear that the house speaker is ready to go. when i do, i will go to her. we are doing everything different these days. i am going to wait for the control room to let me know

everything is okay. >> i am going to toss it back to you. >> as we go do i can tell you on the floor today mitch mcconnell saying to the five-deadline and chuck schumer stretching it to the two-yard line. >> that's going to be up to her and republicans on the hill. madame speaker thank you so much for taking the time during this crucial time. my first question to you over in the senate where you are right now, your colleague, senator schumer just came out of the meeting saying he feels that they can overcome the few issues that you all have left in the next few hours, is that your understanding and how do you feel of where this $2 trillion package is headed in the senate?

>>. >> senator schumer says we are on the two-yard line that we are in the red zone and hopefully we can get it over the finish line. i think much progress has been made and i salute chuck schumer and senate democrats and the they now have a system for states and local government was a big concern for us. that's my understanding in the bill. the unemployment insurance was right from the start that we would definitely have it. the scope was enlarged and we are pleased of where it is. it is still better but none the less good enough for now. issues relate to small businesses which are essential

to job creators. that list goes on and on and we come to most of the agreement on that are positive in the legislation. >> what's still standing? >> well, i am not going to negotiate on tv. i want to have a unanimous consent. i want us to go forward and not a bill i would written in terms of something related to family and medical leave or workers' protection, that could be done administratively, we could find other ways. not enough money and etcetera, at this time. everything we are suggesting just relates to covid-19. it is not about making for the

future. it is about fighting covid-19. it is not changing policy except as it applies here. so again many of provisions in there have been greatly improved. >> let me ask you about that. i am sure you heard at the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell on the floor today and talked about it before saying that what you in the house have been asking for and some democrats in the senate are things under which, for example, they say you asked for imposing emissions standards and carbon offsets on airlines which is something that's in the democratic's will house, something you would want in a perfect world but not appropriate today. >> well, i think there is a whole concern in our country that if we are given tens of billions of dollars to the airlines that we could have a share value about what happens

to the environment. that's an excuse and not a reason for senator mcconnell going forward. some of the other issues not extending them and medical leave and not funding food stamps. i hope that'll all change the next few hours. there are issues that are essential to the well-being of america's family, children's schools closed and kids getting their food at schools. so far they have not agree to that. let us negotiate this and not on tv but in a way that -- remember we don't have the white house and we don't have the senate. we made tremendous progress in this legislation and much of what we have in our bill as reflected in this supposedly of

what we have seen so far. >> it sounds like you are signaling compromise here on some of those things. >> we are not giving up on them. what's the most important issue for our american people? the safety of our first responders and emergency first responders, that they go into without proper personal protected equipment. we have a good amount of money in the bill and all the bills we have done to make sure that is possible. however, we also want rules to govern what is expected of the business in this highl highly -- infectious atmosphere. it is not anything that'll go away. i think it is a reflection that the american people are

concerned that our heroes and healthcare providers who are responding to this in some cases to the detriment of their own safety. >> i want to translate something that you said earlier. you said you want to do this by unanimous consent. am i reading you right to say is what you are hoping is there is an agreement where you do not have to bring house members back that you can approve this by voice vote? we'll do it as soon as possible is to have agreement on the legislation. we are not just doing uc to get anything done. we are doing uc to make the biggest possible difference in the shortest period of time and most scientifically based way. >> your goal is to get to the

point where you reached everything you just said and the senate passes the bill. members are back in the district, they're not there. your goal is to given the situation where we are is to avoid members of congress getting on planes to fly back, if that's possible. >> that's not the point. the point is getting the job done. if they can't reach a unanimous consent then i hope we can come to a place where we have a vote that's a voice vote whethre it not a recorded vote. if we can't get to that, there are other options our chairman put forward, we have some precedent in the house and proxy voting which has precedent. and of course voting which you are not prepared for. we should use the best advance of technology to see how we can address it. it still has a constitutional

challenge because the constitution says we have to be present and vote in the capitol. right now what we are trying to do is work on the substance of this legislation so that we can quickly come to an agreement where we can have the unanimous consent. it is a $2 trillion bill. that's a big piece of legislation and again we cannot to handle it and recognition of the urgency but with the care that's required to make sure that it delivers as quickly as possible. >> madame speaker -- >> delivers checks and benefits to workers in the world. >> i want to ask you about some signals that the president has been sending yesterday at his briefing and today on twitter that he's hearing from conservatives that the cure could not be worse than the problem, the signal is he can start to open up the economy

again because there is a lot of pressure on him to do that. on the flip side i am sure you see liz cheney, a top republican in the house has tweeted effectively that's not a good idea. where do you stand and more importantly what's your message to the president about the time frame here and what should we fear, economy or healthcare? >> it does not have to be a contradiction there. our economy will thrive when our people are well and able to go back to work in groups and collaborate on the enthusiasm skills they have and our children can go back to school. essential to all of that is stopping the spread of the coronavirus. it is central to that. so i don't have time to follow people's tweets or twitters or whatever. >> the president of the united

states -- >> i don't care. >> what is your opinion on that? >> my opinion is that it is not scientific based. he's monitoring it as everyday. any time commenting on the president i would rather spend our time focusing on the fact that any president or anybody with responsibility should be scientifically incline, evidence, data, what's going to make the difference. the cure is the biggest medicine of hope that's out there. we have the best mind in the country, all hands-on deck trying to find a path here. and that'll be the light at the end of the tunnel. what the president is suggesting is that light at the end of the tunnel can be a train coming at us if people are out and about. i am not here to pick a fight with the president. we are here to get a job done

with this legislation and i don't want to spend energy on his tweets. if he listens to the sciences and beginning of the gravity of the problem. there are so many what ifs. right now we need to focus on getting the jobs done for the american people. with all due respect the fact that he's the president of the united states and i respect the office he holds, i am too busy to be bothered about his tweets. >> i understand. madame speaker, i know you have work with d worked with dr. anthony fauci for a long time. he was not at the press conference yesterday and there is some concerns moamong some tt the president had been llp, limited liability partner shl

listening to him and that may be changing, what is your view on that and given how long you know dr. fauci. >> dr. fauci has been an intellectual resource to the country and the congress for sure. i was concerned a the beginning of this dilemma of that the president was not hearing from the scientist or was not listening to the scientist. now that dr. fauci is more vocal, i understand has been more vocal. i can say this, scientists and doctors around the country are saying there is a way to stop this and you can't be communal. you have to stay in and for the president to make light of that is like so what, some people

will die but the economy will grow. no, you will hurt the economy if more people are sick. again, we don't advocate and i don't want this to end any way in partisan. we advocated for government lives and science based and evidence based and approach to this. it is about science and knowledge and evidence, it is not about notion mongering about a notion that does not rise to the level of the idea. again, let's not -- we have plenty time later to do an after action review about what should have happened when. if only, if only. my own granddaughter says why don't you talk about if only, let's talk about what we do next. she's 10 years old. what we do next can't be complicated if onlies coy comesf

the white house. we are working in a bipartisan way to get this job done and a immediate relief to the workers and families and the all that are affected and in a way that grows the economy because that's in everyone's interests as well. >> madame speaker, i know how busy you are, i appreciate your time. we wish you and everybody there luck and hein helping us guide h this. >> thank you so much. >> john, i am going to toss it back to you. >> notion mongering. that's a new one. dana bash, appreciate that so much. the new york governor says he's 26,000 ventilators short. we get another sober look from medical professionals out there on the front line across

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line. this was the governor of new york a short time ago. >> they are doing god's work. can you imagine the nurses who leave their homes in the morning and who kisses their children good-bye and go to a hospital, put on gowns and deal with people who have the coronavirus and they're thinking all day long oh my god, i hope i don't get this, oh my god i hope i don't get this and bring this home to my children. you want to talk about extraordinary individuals. >> a conversation with rick lucas. a nurse at the ohio state at medical center and president of the nurses organization. rick, ohio stop elected surgeries and your hospital restricted visitors. tell us about today on the front line and in terms of the supply lines of the protective gear, is today better than yesterday or last week or things getting

worse? >> you know nurses here are worry about the shortage of ppe. we are at a point where we are signing out one mask a day and we have to keep the same mask all day unless it is soil with blood or something else then we can sign out another mask. the shortage of ppe and the reuse is a major concern for nurses here. there are many changes in the supply chain that makes people feeling uneasy and sometimes the delivery of ppe of the nurses on the front line. >> help somebody understands your profession. if you are getting one mask a day, how many patients you are encountering and how many in a perfect world if you had perfect supplies, how many would you go through? >> most nurses have two or three patients depending on the patient, each time they would go

in and out of the room, they would discard and use a different mask. you could be wearing the same mask in the same room for six or seven patients. >> that's putting your health at risk, correct? >> yes. these masks are designed for single use so we are using them over and over, puts everyone at risk. wh >> what are you being told by your supervisor that it is going to continue weeks or maybe longer? >> we hear from the state government that there is a shortage of supply and everybody is vowing for the same ppe, there is definitely a shortage. >> what does that do to moral at work and you are the hero of this pandemic. people who are leaving their family behind with considerable stress i am guessing at home and

going to work everyday and now with a shortage of masks to protect you and we need you in this fight as long as you can be in this fight. what does that do to moral at work? >> the cdc announcing shortage there is no masks and staff to wear bandannas and people making homemade masks which really means a lot to us. that's not ppe, those devices are unknown of what level of protection it provides for folks. put pressure on our officials and getting the ppe that we need now. >> to that point, when you hear the president and the people at the white house says we don't need to use our full authority and defense production act which most americans don't know it exists. to order factory and produce

this many masks, are you confident that'll work? we heard reports and a few companies stepping up. we are thankful for that will. implementing the defense protection act without triggering production is like downloading a food delivery act on your phone and patting yourself on the back. we need to see real action now and not have what we need. >> rick lucas. thank you for joining us today and most importantly i want to thank you for what you are doing in ohio to help people get through this time. i appreciate your respective and good cheers. come back to see us as the situation gets better for you. >> thank you. dan patrick is also raising eye brows after saying he's willing to risk his own health and own age by lifting social distancing rules. he turns 70 years old next week.

seniors face a higher risk of severe illness. the texas republicans say grandparents like himself, a lot of them are willing to risk their lives to protect the economy. >> no one reached out to me and said as a senior citizen, are you willing to take a chance in our survival in exchange for keeping america for all that america loves for your children. if that's the exchange, i am all in. my message is that let's get back to work, let's get back to living and let's be smart about it and those of us who are 70 plus, we'll take care of ourselves, don't sacrifice the country. the mayor of san antonio texas. you have a stay-at-home for the 1.5 million people in your city to slow the spread of the virus. when you hear lieutenant governor saying things like that, what's your reaction?

>> good to be with you john. it is easy for someone in power of privilege to say something so callo callous. a single health event can become catastrophic. i am not willing to sacrifice any one of my jerresidents and healthcare workers or the 100,000 plus veterans who are older americans who have serve this country. it is time we step up and serve them. >> does it make it harder when you say you need to stay-at-home in your city and you have others in authorities, we see this in washington where the president of the united states says something and the public health officials come forward and contradict the president politely or carefully. when you are a mayor trying to convince your residents, stay-at-home and please help me.

and you have other officials giving a relax message, does that hurt? >> certainly sends a mixed message. san antonio residents, they understand the importance of service and they know what the front line folks on the healthcare side and first responders are dealing with. we want to cooperate. they see what's happening in other parts of the country and across the world when we don't work together. i have been working with the mayors and the county judges and other parts of the state to make sure in an event of action, we are going to make sure we protect our residents. >> you are a smaller city. we are watching new york city, the epicenter right now, they're the cannery in the coal mine. what are you seeing? are you certain or convinced that your stay-at-home restrictions will work and what are you seeing in the ground hospitals there? >> we are in good shape right

now in terms of where we are in capacity. the reason why we want early preventive actions like major city in texas is our community spread has just begun. we want to preserve the hospital capacity that healthcare workers who need the ppe and we expect the numbers to go up. texas has just begun to start rolling test. that's important to give an assessment of where we are with this disease. we expect to remain swift and we'll do everything we can to get through this as quickly as effectively as possible. >> mr. mayor, dprafl fgrateful time. we issue you the best of luck as everyone are grappling with this. >> thank you, john. >> the white house considers options to send people back to work. the new york governor says the curve is not flatten. the case load is getting higher. brianna keilar takes after our

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c cnn's coverage of coronavirus. andrew cuomo saying his cases are doubling every three days. the curve is getting steeper and it is not flatten. he warns his state is the cannery of the coal mine for the rest of the country. >> different regions have different curves of the infection. new york is the cannery coal mine. new york is going first. we have the highest and the fastest rate of infection. what happens to new york is going to whine up happening to california and washington state and illinois and just a matter of time. we are just getting there first. >> cuomo is calling out the federal government for a lack of proper response. fema says they are sending 400 ventilators to new york. cuomo says h