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effective. sanjay, thanks so much. at worst, no effect and it has stay safe. thanks also to dr. anthony fauci side effects. there was a clinical study done in china. rather small, about 30 people. and bill gailtes for joining us. 15 were given the drug and they were ill. 15 were not. also, to all of you who wrote in with your questions, be careful, there was no statistical stay safe, we are all in this difference but whatever difference there were, those on together. the news continues here on cnn. >> hello, everybody. i'm chris cuomo and welcome to chloroquine did worse than those who are not treated with chloroquine. >> how about some empirical prime time. the united states now has the most coronavirus cases on earth. pushback? it's too small a survey. we don't know if the chinese did the test the right way. more than italy. we should do it ourselves. maybe it's about the dosage. now even more than china. is there any way that maybe where all this started. there's still avenues of access this is a fact. with this drug that we haven't pursued? we can debate why this fact exists, how we got here. >> we have a lot of information, but what matters more is that we make changes immediately. already, about that drug. people have been using it for we are not ahead of this. quite a while. it is not getting better. we know, at best, as i said, it was -- it's weakly effective if like dr. fauci told us last it's effective at all. night, the virus is making the and there is no real evidence timetable. that it's effective. back to normalcy is not and even on a theoretical basis, happening anytime soon. it's unlikely to work. i don't want to say that. but false hope of a return to
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so i think that the chance that's going to be our magic normal anytime soon is only proof of abnormal messaging. pill is not there. that doesn't mean we won't have we're not going to do that here. one. we should do everything we can the need is real. to get a drug, and there will be and so must be our determination. our focus is on the front lines. drugs that work against this virus. and it reveals that one nurse i am absolutely convinced of just lost his battle, his battle that. having developed drugs for against this virus. we have his sister here tonight hiv-aids, for anthrax, for other diseases. this is a relatively easy to tell you the story of who he was and how it happened. problem. and it's a shame we don't along with the doctor who is already have those drugs. going to tell you about the we could. >> well, it's a relatively easy unbelievable choices she is now forced to make in an emergency problem. help us understand, you know, help the lay people understand room. this problem's not going away. that if it's a relatively simple so neither can our resolve. problem, how come we don't seem to be anywhere in terms of together, as ever, as one. getting a solution? let's get after it. >> well, when there was a sars epidemic in 2003, a lot of labs all over the world went to work. and they found drugs that 82,000 cases. stopped, not only the sars virus but, the whole family of and more important than that number is the rate. coronaviruses from growing. it is climbing. it is accelerating, still. why weren't they developed into how do you reconcile that with drugs? because there was no economic model for that. no company was willing to put looking at where it's spreading the money and not see any money
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and moving to other places at the same time? come back because it was and then the president saying, unpredictable. that's in an ideal situation for tonight, we need to start easing the government to step in. restrictions that are in place. but the government never did step in. you cannot reconcile the facts not our government. not the singapore government. and his feelings. not the chinese government. i hope we don't make that again, i apologize but not for telling you the truth. mistake again. only for bursting any bubble of at this point, they are racing false help. to try to resurrect those you can't dream if false hope chemicals, which were known to when we have real problems. stop coronaviruses. we have more breaking developments. and not just one, many. i want to give you the facts and there are about 20 drugs from our national correspondent that were shown or drug nick watt. candidates that were shown to do >> more than 1,000 now dead and, that. as of tonight, the united states and also, save all the lives has more reported cases of that we're talking about today. coronavirus than any other including the life of marya's country on earth, according to johns hopkins university. brother. >> so that's the past. we have to figure out how to get better in the future. and you are saying what worries >> i think it's a tribute to the you most is that how we set testing. we're testing tremendous numbers of people. >> despite the rising numbers, the president now considering ourselves up for testing here and what we're still doing with easing social distancing testing, proves to you that we guidelines in some parts of the still don't get what we're up against. is that true? country to get some people back to work. >> that's partly true. >> we've got to start the but we're -- we -- we're not process pretty soon.
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so we'll be talking to you a even halfway prepared for what's little bit more about that next coming. it isn't only about testing. in fact, if you really look week. closely, it was done where >> and today, a glimpse of the staggering economic impact. people controlled the virus. last week, nearly 3.3 million more americans signed up for they didn't depend only on unemployment. a record since such records tests. began more than 50 years ago. if someone was sick and they were known to have the coronavirus, everybody in contact with that person, >> it's nobody's fault. certainly, not in this country. regardless of their testing results, was put in mandatory >> a $2.2 trillion stimulus package to help industry and individuals and the healthcare quarantine in an isolated hotel system passed the senate. room. and not allowed to open the door still, waiting on a house vote. >> hopefully, it'll get approved themselves. without a test. equally easily in the house just the fact that they were in the control room. really i think it will go in -- in the contact. through pretty well from what i by that measure, anybody in hear virtually everybody. there could be one vote. contact with rand paul would be one vote. locked into a hotel room at this point. one grandstander maybe. you might have one grandstander. >> that's the only way to do it. >> meanwhile, on the front line. >> that's why we got the >> all the people you see, they all have covid. numbers. and that's the answer, right? >> we're going to have bigger >> and 13 dayed at thied at thi numbers still because we're still not doing it. york hospital in one day. even in the -- i live in new >> we had to get a refrigerated
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york. and we're under the most truck to store the bodies of rigorous control. and compared to what i've seen and talked to people in my patients who are dying. >> an er doctor sharing a rare look inside her hospital with association of my foundation in china, we're not even beginning "the new york times." to do what we need to do. >> i don't have the support that >> well, doctor, listen. i need. and even just the materials that i take -- i take all your i need, physically, to take care suggestions. i want to stay in touch. of my patients. you let me know what we're doing and what we're not doing and and it's -- it's america. >> cnn has reached out to what works. and we'll get the message out. dr. william haseltine. elmhurst hospital for official comment on the statements of am i saying your name the right this doctor. >> various offices from the way? president to the head of health >> you can say it how you want. and hospitals saying things like >> no. no. no. dr. william haseltine. we're going to be fine. you deserve the difference of the right pronunciation. everything's fine. we are going to need you going and from our perspective, forward and i am happy to have you on the show tonight. everything is not fine. >> new york's governor says thank you. it is hard to hear but thank you there is enough protective equipment for now. to giving it to us straight. >> you're but distribution might be stop and start. >> you cannot get the curve down i hate this story. you hate it. low enough so that you don't there is no good news. i totally get it. what do you want in i'm not overwhelm the hospital capacity. going to make it up. >> new york state has, by far, we have somebody doing that
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the most confirmed cases right already. we have to be straight. now. but they've also done, by far, that's the only way we'll start the most testing. responding to it with the kind 25% of the national total says of urgency that will get us to the place we want to be. the governor. so everywhere else? . >> i think it could be as much in process, we're going to tart as one in three walking around asymptomatic right now. calling out people who will get >> the first confirmed case in us to that place and people who the u.s. was january 21st, are keeping us from getting to washington state. about a month later, the that place. next. life isn't a straight line. president said this. >> we're going down, not up. we're going very substantially down, not up. >> that day, 56 cases. today, more than 80,000 cases across every single state. hence, more than half the country ordered stay home to slow spread for now. >> so we just heard from mayor garcetti here in los angeles. he says he expects california will be the next new york and they are getting ready. cedar sigh anyw cedar sinai, they've got the capacity.
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they've cancelled all elective surgeries. tomorrow morning, the 1,000 bed navy hospital ship will pull into the port los angeles, the and sometimes, you can find yourself plan is to put them on that heading in a new direction. ship. clearing space, chris, waiting for this covid-19 surge. but when you're with fidelity, a partner who makes sure every step is clear, back to you. >> right. hey, thank you very much for putting this together for us, there's nothing to stop you from moving forward. nick. i know it's a very fluid situation. that hospital ship will not have covid patients on it. it will be clearing space for covid patients. you don't want to mix the two. nick watt, thank you so much, brother. appreciate it. make no mistake. this is no longer about contact tracing. and doing investigative work to stop the spread. not here. not in new york. not in the big population areas where it's hit. now, that is a story to be told. that is this rest of the country's story. and it's not happening there. the testing levels around this country are nowhere near where they need to be. that'll be emerging. but right now, you have to focus on the hospitals in the big population centers. there is no containing the
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inevitable here. it will hit hard. we are told the worst is yet to come. but that doesn't mean that the fighting isn't already fierce, especially in new york city. and that's why a doctor like sylvie desuza did something she doesn't want to have to do. she doesn't want to ta talk about what's happening in the hospital and make herself controversial but she is the chair of emergency medicine at brooklyn hospital center and we read about that harrowing story in "the new york times" and it's important to get her take on what's happening here. doctor, thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> so everybody says it will get worse. there will be more cases. but what are you already dealing with? >> we're already dealing with a huge influx of patients coming into the emergency department. both symptomatic. some asymptomatic.
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some with severe symptoms. and we have to sort of make the decision on how to best cater to all their concerns and attend to all of their needs. >> so you're already dealing with the more extreme cases, right, because there are people who couldn't deal with it at home, needed to come in. obviously, symptomatic. into the hospital. let me ask you how quickly is the rate of case growth among your own workers? >> we've had a few of our employees who converted. we've been very fortunate that they all recovered and were able to return to work. most of them are back at work now. a few of them are still in -- in isolation at home. self-monitoring their symptoms. >> all right. now, hopefully, it'll stay that way. it sounds like you are getting lucky so far in terms of keeping them out of harm's way when they're dealing with this virus
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so closely and intensity over time. now, when you have multiple patients that need the most extreme protocols, and you do not have the beds and/or the equipment, what kind of choices are you having to make? >> well, at this point, we're still fortunate enough to have the equipment we need. but we don't know what tomorrow holds. the decisions we are faced with right now are, basically, who gets an icu bed. who gets it first? many of those patients end up in emergency department for hours, sometimes days, until they either get well or they get an icu bed. so we have not reached that point yet. but, certainly, we see an first the ameri-cants. increase of severely ill patients coming into the licking sticks at a walmart? first asking, who is scared of emergency department. we've also put together a tent coronavirus? outside of our hospital. now, i'm hiding his face out of outside of the emergency mercy. i don't think he was trying to department to provide screening scare people.
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he's just stupid. for those in the community who are concerned about having the be better. illness. and once we screen them, we're able to determine who needs to this guy was accused of making get tested. terroristic threats. who needs further investigation? he was asked to move back. he's accused of moving closer to her and laughing on her on this has really helped us in purpose, saying i've got decompressing the volume of coronavirus. who is laughing now? patients coming into the for every one of these, we see emergency department. >> you are being asked to lots of ameri-cans as well. increase capacity by 50%. easy to say. hard to do. starbucks. how is that process going? hot or iced. you can't sit inside the and what do you need that you do locations but you can get the not have in order to do that? free to go coffees until at least the beginning of may. >> i think our biggest need right now is staff. and tick tock. the app that makes those short we are going to have to review funny videos dominating 90 our staffing models. household. and that's what we're in the they gave the w. horks $10 process of doing. we're increasing capacity. million. it will help get more masks and our biggest issue is being able gloves and other protective to staff those extra beds that gear. that's not an american company. we are implementing in the hospital. people talk about tick tock.
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>> now, your hospital's a little different than many others. if you want to help, you're an you don't have a parent company. you're depending on yourself for ameri-can. we need help from everywhere. supplies. there's been generosity. and it's an interesting community, your hospital, the stories that i've heard. that there are actually this one with the national call traditions and culture within your hospital. tell us a little bit about that. to action and how you can help protect those on the front lines >> well, we've been incredibly of this action. you say you care. fortunate of the support of the listen to this and act, next. entire community. we are -- we serve a very diverse population and very diverse, both culturally and socioeconomically. but i must say that the support has been pouring in. we've been receiving donations on a daily basis. they're increasing every day. we've been fortunate to be able to vet this equipment has been safe for using in hospitals. so, so far, we are able to protect all the staff. we've also been able to divide the emergency department into a safe zone to still care for the
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other patients who are coming in with other emergencies. heart attacks. strokes. et cetera. just our regular patients. and then have a zone dedicated to the care of these patients who are suspected to have covid-19. >> i mean, this is very difficult. elmhurst queens, it's always a busy area. you see a lot of cases ordinarily. and now, you have this entire new wave of need. and i have heard that you started a tradition of you don't touch. you're at safe distances but you pray together. that you will be protected along needles. essential for the sea urchin, with your patients. and know this. but maybe not for people with rheumatoid arthritis. because there are options. like an "unjection™". you, dr. de souza, and your xeljanz xr, a once-daily pill for adults with moderate staff, you are our angels and to severe ra for whom methotrexate you are in your prayers. but more than in our prayers, did not work well enough. you're going to be on our mind. xeljanz xr can reduce pain, swelling if there's anything we can do to get information about your needs and further joint damage, even without methotrexate. and about what's going on, we are a call away for the xeljanz can lower your ability to fight infections like tb; duration. okay? >> i thank you. i thank you, mr. cuomo, for don't start xeljanz if you have an infection.
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taking a higher than recommended dose of xeljanz for ra this -- this opportunity to have our voice heard. can increase risk of death. there is actually something that serious, sometimes fatal infections, we -- i've started with a cancers including lymphoma, and blood clots have happened. colleague of mine to encourage as have tears in the stomach or intestines, the healthcare workers at the serious allergic reactions, and changes in lab results. front lines. and it's #healthcareworker tell your doctor if you've been somewhere fungal infections are common, or if you've had tb, hepatitis b or c, or are prone to infections. needles. fine for some. but for you, one pill a day may provide symptom relief. shoutout. where at 8:00 p.m., folks get at ask your doctor about xeljanz xr. their windows or balconies and an "unjection™". either clap or flash their phones to encourage the people at the front lines. thwhich, if i'm not mistaken, papadia. thank you, mr. cuomo. is latin for "better than a sandwich." >> the #is -- tell me the heh-even has a better pickle... get a new papadia for six bucks. hashtag again. better ingredients. better pizza. better than a sandwich. papa john's. >> #hcwshoutout. >> done. #hcw, for healthcare worker, shoutout. thank you very much, doctor, it is the least we can do for you
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for all that you are doing and will do for us. god bless. stay well. stay strong. >> thank you. >> now, i know you're going to reply to that call. it's not like you don't have time on your hands right now. #hcw stay strong. you can put it out there. you will see the hashtag online. stay involved. now, the president, i know he is saying something different than what you are hearing. i understand that. but we can only deal in the facts. that's why i will bring you another doctor. dr. jha. he is going to give you what he sees in the modeling and on the front lines that suggests where are we in terms of timing? okay? and what does it mean for the next wave? what does it mean for us and our country? next. want to brain better? unlike ordinary memory supplements neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. try neuriva for 30 days and see the difference.
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#hcwsho #hcwshoutout. hcw is for healthcare worker. okay. and if you are here in the new york metropolitan area or really anywhere but certainly here, at 8:00 p.m. eastern time, they're doing it all over europe to show support for the front line workers in the hospitals. go to the windows. shout out that you support. flash your phones outside if you are now near the hospitals. and they'll be looking for it. they need our support. they are doing so much for us. online. #hcwshoutout. okay. want to get that out there. there could be a lot of reasons, by the way, that we have the highest number of reported coronavirus cases worldwide. most of those reasons are not good. okay? perhaps, more importantly, we do have a doctor who is trying to drill into people the reality that the fact that we have the most cases should tell you what you need to know most. this is not going to end anytime soon. that doctor is ashish jha,
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director of the global health institute at harvard university. joins us now. it's good to see you again, doctor. look. we would all rather believe the president that, in a few weeks, we'll be okay. and we are hearing from his staff, well, that was an aspirational statement. but there's a danger in giving false hope. what do you want people to know? >> yeah. look. i think we could all use some hope and i'll get to hope because there are areas where i have hope. but hope that's not based in fact and empty and doesn't get us morphiving forward. what americans need to know tonight, we are number one for all the wrong reasons. we had 30,000 more cases and n just the last two days. lot of folks. and we crossed the thousand people who have died. i think, sadly, the days and weeks ahead, we're going to see more deaths. and we're still early in this. we have a lot -- we have a long way to run on this.
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so, chris, you know, i think the next couple days, next couple weeks are going to be hard. and what we need to do is start thinking about how we're going to bend this curve. and we can do that but not by peddling false hope. >> so let's take one step backwards. why? why do we have the most cases? >> well, look, everybody knows we were superlate to the game on testing. we went months. the infection was spreading around the country. we were in denial. we didn't have a testing scheme that -- where we could test people. and only in the last couple of weeks have we started heading in the right direction. and i would say only in the past week has testing gotten halfway decent. it's still not where it needs to be, and we're finally identifying all the infections that are in the community. as i said, we still have a ways to go because our testing needs to ramp up further. >> i tell you i just saw a map one of my producers patrick showed me today. you're testing a lot more in new york and other places. but, you know, that's where the
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testing is going to be least indicative of getting ahead or contact tracing. the states where it's just starting to happen, they're testing it much lower rates and it it's almost like we're setting ourselves up to go through this cycle again and again and again. so what do you see as a time horizon for how long we're dealing with this? and then define for us what dealing with it means. >> right now, the way i am looking at the american map, i'm seeing 50 different maps, right? one for each state. every state is on a different trajectory. there's still states where getting active, getting aggressive, can actually stave off the worst. but those states aren't taking it seriously because they're not seeing a lot of cases yet. but what's happening in california, new york, washington state, we're going to see that in florida, louisiana, we're going to see that in arizona. there are lots of places coming that i am very, very worried about. dallas. some of the data from there i
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think are concerning. we're going to see this spread. but there are still parts of the country where jumping ahead, isolating people, they can make sure they don't have the explosive growth we're seeing in other areas. in terms of timeline -- yeah, go ahead, chris. >> no, go ahead. that's what i wanted you to talk about. >> in terms of timeline, the president has said he would love to see the country open up by easter. wouldn't we all? that would be great. i would' love to see the country open up tomorrow. but the question is what is it that we can do to make sure that when we open up, we don't have to close back down again? >> like hong kong. >> i'm just not at all convinced we're going to be able to do that by easter. >> and you are saying you have to look at more of a 12 to 18-month time horizon to where you are seeing the types of herd immunity and a vehicvaccine and actionable way of dealing with this in the next seasonal cycle. >> the big thing i think your viewers need to know is that
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this virus is not going away. we are in for a bumpy ride over the next 12 to 18 months. doesn't mean you have to be shut down for 12 to 18 months. we can't tolerate that. people have to get back to their lives. we can do that. but if we are aggressive now about stopping things, shutting down, building up a test regime, we can then open up again. and not everywhere all the time. but most places can go back to work. but only when we're ready. and we are not anywhere near ready right now. >> and the idea of a quick exit out of this based on a drug therapy. i know another harvard-related study today said that the drug that the president says he's a big fan of, the hydroxy whatever it's called. something. the c. they don't believe in china a study they did shows that it will help. you familiar with that study? >> i'm not familiar with the specific study you're talking about but i will tell you this. drug therapy. there is a lot of drugs in the marketplace that are being studied. i'm hopeful one of them or maybe more than one of them will help.
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it will not end the transmissions. it will not end this virus. the only thing will be either herd immunity when large numbers of people have been infected or we get an effective vaccine. i think we are 18 months away if everything goes smoothly. look. i haven't seen any data that hydroxy chloroquine is going to be the savior here. >> that's the drug. >> that would be great but that's not what the data is telling us so far. >> hydroxychloroquine. that's the drug. i guess i don't have to learn the name of it because doesn't seem like it works in any big way anyway. you will a thoulthough there was scare story out there. that particular story, the man took something like fish cleaner or something like that and that's why he died but the drug's been studied in china. they don't see it in terms of being a big fan, as our president is. dr. jha, i am a big fan of yourings because you're giving us the facts. and even if it doesn't feel good, we need to deal in fact. be well. stay healthy.
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i'll talk to you soon. >> chris, thanks so much for having me. >> all right. look. that's why we're dealing with all these different fronts on this war. i have no problem with the metaphor. we start talking about it as a war weeks ago. and it's the right outlook but you have to treat it that way, right? and that's why ppe is so important. personal protective equipment. we can't have your warriors on the front lines being exposed to the same thing they are fighting and being vulnerable. so the idea of not having what you need, that workers are now faced with having to make decisions that they shouldn't have to make. and that decision may have just cost one of our best here in new york city their life. a nurse just died on the front lines. his sister is here seeking answers. and seeking to explain to you exactly who was lost and why he was so beloved with all who came into contact with him. next. no, no, no, no, this ain't no sandwich. because on a sandwich, they ask you if you want cheese.
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we all feel so powerless. #hcwshoutout. tweet that and recognize the front line fighters in our
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hospitals. they need the energy. they need to know we care because they're doing for us what we can't do for ourselves. and many of them are doing things that they may not even be able to withstand. takes us to the story of kyes kelly. 48 years old. just a beautiful guy inside and out. everybody says it. a nurse manager at a hospital here in new york city. he may be the first nurse in this city to die, at least in part, from the virus. he tested positive just a couple weeks ago and died on tuesday from complications from the virus. his sister, mariah, joins us now. i am very, very sorry to meet you under these circumstances. i really am, mariah. my sympathy to you and your family. >> thank you. thank you for having me on. >> you'd been in kind of uneven contact with your brother because, obviously, he was working round the clock against this contagion that we're dealing with here. did he give you any indication of how hard it was for him, especially once he got the diagnosis?
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>> he -- he did not. unfortunately, the -- everything happened so quickly. he told my parents that he was positive and had corona. and three days later, he sent me a text message. and shared that he was in the icu, and on a ventilator. and he couldn't talk. or he would choke. so he was having trouble breathing. and six days later, he -- he died. >> i'm so sorry. >> thank you. >> i mean, it's -- now, look, we know he had asthma but it just shows how such a simple thing that i'm sure didn't even limit him. he was known as being energetic and, you know, such a source of life among his team and staff. >> uh-huh. >> just shows what this virus can do. what do you want people to know
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about this beautiful soul? >> thank you for that question. you know, that he was a leader and a champion and -- in life. but he was a champion for his -- for his unit. he would be fighting for them right now. and that's part of why i'm talking with you today. he -- he would be fighting for their protection. and he advocated for them. and his legacy is -- is so amazing. it's so -- i've been over wewhed in the last 48 hours with messages, text messages, stories about him. and no one can take that from him. but he would want his team protected. he would want the medical healthcare workers protected. and he would want the -- the janitors protected.
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it's not -- it's everyone there that is -- that's being exposed. and he would be doing something about it. in his way, at his hospital, for his unit. he -- he was the best brother in the world. and an amazing uncle to my sons. and my parents are -- are broken. it's a huge part -- we all are -- a huge part of our life and too soon, too quick. and not necessary. >> well, you're concerned that he would be fighting for his team. he still is, isn't he? >> he is. >> even in death, his story is reverberating the need that we take care of our front line healthcare workers. >> yes. yes. >> because it's the only way they'll be able to take care of us. as his sister, what has been the hardest part for you in accepting this emotionally so
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far? >> you know, my -- our parents are older. and calling them and telling them. and knowing that none of us could get to him. knowing that he died alone. that's just gut wrenching to think about. you know, and i know that there are -- there are thousands of people. numbers in the thousands that there are a thousand other families going through this right now. i think not being able to be there. not being able -- even now, i don't -- i don't know where he is. i don't know where his body is. i don't know. we don't know what's happening entirely. and we don't know that this is going to be addressed. so there is -- you know, you can move on from a situation.
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and there are -- there are absolute tragedies. but there are also situations that can be -- can be addressed. we can do something about this. and that we didn't in time for -- to save his life is -- is challenging. but that i don't get the sense that we are -- in fact, i know we're not, to be honest, i know we're not dealing with it now. so that makes it hard because it's -- it's in vain if we're not going to get our -- every -- all of our healthcare workers everything that they need. and, you know, chris, it's -- it's disturbing what is happening. i don't think america knows. the news is not sharing with us what our healthcare workers are seeing and being asked to do.
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and it's shameful. it is shameful. >> i promise you, we will do everything that we can to focus on the people who are doing the job for us on the front lines. i promise you that their protection is something we will cover religiously. and i also promise you that anything that i can do to help your family get closure with locating your brother and figuring out how you bring him home and whatever your family wants to do, i will do whatever i can. you know how to get me. our producer will remind you of how to get me. and we are here for you, and we are here for the others that are out there fighting on the front lines, which is what your brother would want. i promise you that. >> thank you. thank you, chris. thank you very much. >> tell -- tell your family they are in our prayers. but, more importantly, you're in my head so we'll be in touch and i'll help any way i can. and we will not let this lie. i promise you that. >> thank you very much. thank you. i heard your previous guest,
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and, please, just the personal protective equipment. drop it off on the roofs. we have helicopters. we have a way. we're not getting it to them. we have got to get them what they need. >> understood. and appreciated. marya, again, my condolences to the family. we'll make sure that your brother passing does not mean that we forget the message of what his life has to mean about good service and taking care of his brothers and sisters who are still in the fight. we will do that. >> thank you. thank you, chris. >> we'll be in touch. kyes jordan kelly. we can say that may he be blessed with resting in peace but if we don't take care of his brothers and sisters, how can that be possible? think about his family. not even be able to get closure right now because of the nature of this fight that we're in. beautiful man lost but not
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forgotten. ahead, the race for a treatment. the results of a new study that i referred to. the president said he's a fan. he's a fan. do we have a scientific reason to be a fan of a possible li lifesaver next?
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we're already on it. we are going to get answers for that family. we're going to make sure that kious didn't pass in vain and that ppe is obviously a priority for our healthcare workers because they can't do the job if they're not protected from the virus. they're going to go down just like any of us would. now, from who we need the most to what is kind of like this far out there dream, what would be whether a? a wonder droug, right? the president said he was a fan of something called hydroxychloroquine, which the
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president has said could be a game changer. well, again, that's a feeling. now, we have some facts. a new study that was conducted in china. where they locked to see, with a control group and science and how you do it, science being the quest for knowledge about whether it made a difference. we're joined now by dr. william hazelton. he is a former harvard medical professor. professor, thank you for joining us. >> it's a pleasure to be here, chris. >> so, look, we all want things to work. we all want to be a pill away from getting past this. we're all a fan of that idea. what is the reality about whether this drug shows that kind of promise? >> well, chris, let me just begin by saying that the last story shows you how unprepared we were for this epidemic. and it didn't have to be. i was warning, and many people like me were warning, that thak
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