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hey, everybody, i'm chris cuomo, welcome to "primetime." governors all over the country are echoing the cries of the sick and scared, the desperate on the front lines. and the president's response to their calls for help? ask nicely. >> all i want them to do, very simple, i want them to be appreciative. i say mike, don't call the governor of washington, wasting your time with him. don't call the woman in michigan, doesn't make any difference what happens, if they don't treat you right, i don't call. >> i know she's a woman but she's also a governor, women can be governors now. listen, we're approaching moment of crisis, cases will overwhelm
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certain areas but tonight we've arrived at moment of truth. i know states are trying to stay on trump's good side, they don't want to be cut off. we in the media don't answer to him, we answer to you. this is not about you and how you feel. it is about us, lead for all, follow the better minds around you or get out of the way. it's not about left and right, not about your feelings, it's about being ready, we have no more time. it is time for us to demand actions and act ourselves, together as ever, as one, let's get after it. i should have a big headline for you, i should be telling you right now the federal government is finally addressing our greatest need with its biggest weapon, calling on businesses to
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make the ppe that the people on the front line need, the protective wear, the ventilators. this is a war and that's how we got ahead of the enemy in world war ii. what do we know? president calls on gm to partner with a tech company to make 100,000 ventilators. great. but then gm and the other company say they haven't been told anything. they need clarity, white house is saying one thing, reporters another, what does the president have to say, can he clarify it, get the moment of truth we need? >> we thought we had a deal with general motors and i guess they thought otherwise. they didn't agree. now they do agree, and i think we might be able to pull it, but we let them know the way we felt and they can't be doing that. >> what does that even mean? why can't this president build up our defenses with the urgency
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he showed in building his wall? his response, we're doing great, good on the ppe, another perfect play. i don't think states like new york really need what they say they need. really? those are his feelings. let's get to the facts. new york state health department commissioner howard zuker, good to have you on the show. >> good to be here. >> you don't need the ventilators and you put them in warehouse which means you didn't need them. do you accept that? >> i don't. we need more ventilators. we are very concerned about patients becoming critically ill and those who are going become critically ill. >> but you don't need them now, and some have fewer than you, do it this way, when people are really sick and don't have ventilators, come to me and i'll
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give you ventilators. >> new yorkers are sick. in every hospital, i here it every day, we're working night and day to get the supplies they need. as you know when someone is critically ill, in the hospital, in intensive care unit, the ventilator will help save their life. we need the vent laters, looking far and wide for as many as we can find. >> what happens if you delay the ask until need was imminent? >> wouldn't be wise approach. governor is being proactive, address the issues upfront. what's the worse that happens? we have extra ventilators and give to next state that needs them. last thing you want to do is to be caught behind the 8 ball. >> just so the audience understands, i'm telling you what the president has been saying, his own words.
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>> don't forget, we sent thousands of ventilators to new york, and they didn't know they got them. we sent thousands of ventilators to new york and they didn't know about it at the time they were complaining. had 2,000, then 2,000, then 4,000. >> is any of that true? >> not true. we knew the ventilators arrived and we need more ventilators. this is just the beginning of addressing the problem that we have. we have patients in hospitals all across the lower part of new york state and as i suspect as it progresses to other parts of the state. we're behind on the ventilators, looking for as many as we could get from federal government and elsewhere. >> you knew they had come, had them ready to deploy, not unaware. he made it sound like 8,000. how many? >> 4,000 ventilators were given
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to us and we're distributing, deploying those to those who need them. received many calls from hospital presidents including today saying we need more. hear about patients who show up in the emergency room, hear the stories, see the numbers rising. we need to address that now. we're doing that. we need to provide for those patients. >> another story not well told, i kind of blame myself for that, i don't know how many reporters know this truth as well as i do. what is it like for you to go on the open market and get ppe that people need? what things are you encountering in trying to source, purchase and take delivery of masks, gowns, gloves, protective footwear and visors? >> working with vendors out there. many creative solutions have been put forth, ways to spray masks to use them.
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looking at other supply chains for some of the protective equipment. i recognize the doctors and nurses, all the professionals on the front line we need to protect and make sure they're healthy and able to take care of the patients in the beds. that's most important approach we have. >> isn't it true because the federal government hasn't triggered the manufacturing act and we're not making these for ourselves, you're constantly in bidding wars against other countries and states and prices are jumping up like it's last bottle of water in drought? >> governor cuomo called on the president, dating back weeks now to implement the defense production act, look at this like it's a war. it is, a war against the virus, take the approach against other wars the united states had to
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fight. activate the fact, get the supplies made and help new york and the country. >> you've got states competing against one another, bid up, prices going up 1,000% for masks and gowns because the need is so heavy. literally, state versus state. and you are often losing things if you don't have tens of millions of dollars to spend in next 30 minutes. is that not the reality? >> i think we're trying to work together. in this area, new york, new jersey, connecticut, governor has called the tri-state area to work together to address the challenge. we need more supplies, protective equipment, ventilators, specific medications. we need the supplies. that's how we tackle a problem upfront and be proactive addressing things. >> last night on the show we had
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maria sherrod on, sister of one of the few nurses who has succumbed to the virus. raised concerns about level of ppe and to his family, concerns about bringing him home. >> even now i don't know where he is, his body is. we don't know what's happening. >> and i also promise you anything that i can do to help your family get closure, locating your brother and figuring out how you bring him home, whatever your family wants to do, i will do whatever i can. good news is i didn't have to do anything. you were monitoring what was said last night, learned about the situation. what is the status of kelly now?
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>> heard about that, i spoke to his parents. very sad. when i heard that, just the fact that anyone who passes away from them, but a nurse out there taking care of others who are sick, really hits home as health professional and doctor, i know. i spoke to his parents this morning and again this afternoon. we're working to have his body brought back home to the state of michigan. and i think the way that we could pay tribute to mr. kelly, all that he did, all that he gave, to give the ultimate sacrifice of his own life, is to stay home, make sure that we are staying home, preventing this virus from spreading, flattening that curve that the community mitigation strategies we've spoken about, governor has raised every press conference
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he's had, that's how we pay tribute to him. >> good of you to give dignity to his family, bring him home. people that fall on the front lines deserve that deference, just like with our warriors abroad. to give them closure. thank you commissioner howard zucker, thanks for being with us, i know you're busy, let us know what you need so we can get the word out. >> new york is a very generous of heart. been creative in finding solutions. makes me proud to be a new yorker. starts from the top, the governor, your brother, and i appreciate it. >> we'll see how he does over time. thanks for being with us tonight, i appreciate it. battle is ramping up, it's not just about new york. new york has always been the future for everywhere else.
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you're seeing it on the west coast, in louisiana. in california a big dose of help arrived today. a new rule just went out after people were ignoring the warnings about risky behavior. we're going to check in with the mayor of los angeles. he's got an update about a big surge in cases and what they believe is behind it. next. is. and take. it. on with rinvoq. rinvoq a once-daily pill can dramatically improve symptoms... rinvoq helps tame pain, stiffness, swelling. and for some... rinvoq can even significantly reduce ra fatigue. that's rinvoq relief. with ra, your overactive immune system attacks your joints. rinvoq regulates it to help stop the attack. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious infections and blood clots, sometimes fatal, have occurred as have certain cancers, including lymphoma, and tears in the stomach
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shifting from the state of new york, currently the national epicenter. why? big population, travel hub, lot of density. lot of things going against it. but it's not unique, okay? we know that, we're watching the spread in realtime, started in washington, bounced over here, now back in california, cases and deaths are surging there. los angeles's mayor says california is the next new york, and he's also our next guest, mayor eric garcetti. great to see you as always, sorry it's for this reason. really wish, brother, you were coming on to say we got a handle, learned something, got a trick. but it's the opposite. how's it going for you and what do you blame? >> we're strong, we're steeled and we're scared. we look at numbers, do the calculations, whether a week or two away, today had smaller increase than yesterday, which was 50-plus percent increase in
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single day, numbers line up per capita where new york was. isn't just new york, los angeles and seattle. per capita, wyoming is where los angeles is, north dakota is where los angeles is, you can go almost anyplace, it's not if, it's when for all of us. glad we enacted measures early but will take 10 to 12 days to see that. stay home this weekend. we closed the beaches and hiking trails, things that are l.a. but so l.a. can rise one day in the future. >> is it just the lag or are people being lax in terms of following the directives? >> no, i think it's the lag. and tests on average in this country are sometimes five to seven days. seeing only diagnosed cases and from a week ago. we'll know where we are today in a few days. i ramped up testing paid by the
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city, drive-through centers, four, we'll open up a fifth, just announced a historic partnership with ups, they'll drop off kits, pick them up, process them. we need fast results to chase down the cases we have while there's time. but marvelous embraced by 99.9% of people. see it in traffic data, cell phone data, but we're going to hunt down that last 0.1% and say get inside, cut it out, distance. >> you have the u.s. navy ship "mercy" coming. impressive vessel, will be taking non-covid-19 patients to clear space for the covid-19 patients. it's not obvious but to you and me. that is the reality. federal help, looked like had a deal with gm, white house says
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done but i agree with leader pelosi, we have to think about the fourth one for economic recovery now. but where they're falling short not going to mince words. need more ventilators and equipment and help. now the calls we're putting out there are starting to get answered. that's great for america. >> what's your speculation? you guys have to keep doing it on the open market, are you going to get where you need to be or does the federal government have to get more involved and have factories making this stuff? >> we'll be all so overwhelmed, has to be all of the above. i don't care if rampant capitalist and want it all private sector, ramp that up. rampant socialist and want the government to do it, ramp that up. lives depend on how well we do. not going to get to 100% but
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closer we get, could be your husband, wife, father, mother. this is what this is about. human cost of this i don't think has started to hit people. in new york it has. we're all going to know somebody who falls victim to this. could be somebody close to us. looking back kids and grandkids will say what did you do specifically, also what did america do. who was this country? time to throw aside what divides us, everybody has to do whatever they can, feds better, local and state level better. we have all to keep pushing. >> you're not worried about how long or how much money but how many people are going to lose lives to the virus. >> no question. that's worst part of the day with the data team, talk with doctors and professionals, starting to plan for low, medium, high and worst-case
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scenarios and each has a number of how many angelinos will die as result of covid-19. it's a fact of the disease. anybody who doesn't want to confront of the numbers isn't looking at what's happening around the world. i know what the numbers are. i want to say we did something to make sure it was lower end of that raerther than the higher. >> americans need to learn we're not special in terms of being vulnerable to the virus, we are special in ability to fight it. mayor eric garcetti, you always have a platform here. >> go bless you, strength and love. >> well said. white house health experts are concerned chicago may be the nation's next los angeles. why? talk with a member of family devastated by this tragedy in illinois. these stories are hard to hear but you must, loved ones like
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call for your free publisher kit today! each of the numbers that you see spiking in places like chicago, they can become overwhelming. but just remember this, every one of them is a person. person who has people who love them, maybe they're responsible for, family. meaning the pain extends beyond the cold counts getting too familiar for us now. it's a pain that richard is feeling two-fold. his sister was the first to die in illinois from coronavirus. just days later he lost another sister to the disease. richard, i'm so sorry to meet you under these circumstances. but i can't tell you how much i appreciate you coming forward in a time of pain so that people realize what we're dealing with. how is the family coping? >> thank you chris. we're getting by.
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we're doing what we can. just doing the best we can do. >> how do you make sense of having two of your own taken from something we're supposed to be able to deal with, not supposed to happen like this. were they compromised in a way, vulnerable? >> the first sister, patricia, she was compromised and vulnerable. when she called and told us she had breathing issues, it's not something we hadn't heard before. so we didn't really think too much of it. especially not covid-19, especially since it hadn't been widespread in illinois at the time. but she was vulnerable, and her death, while tragic is just devastating for us. on the same day we learned of her death though, my other
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sister was checking herself into the er for a cough that she had. and that one took us by surprise. she was a lot healthier. just didn't expect her to go. >> we're showing pictures of them right now, beautiful, in the prime of life. what do you want us to know about why your sisters have to be remembered for more than just what took them? >> i think everyone who knew them will remember for more than just what took them. they were absolutely beautiful women, and it's strange because i come from a huge family. nine of us originally, eight living -- well, six now. and we're all extremely close. and although we fought, we got along great as adults. and their presence is just going
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to be missed so much, wanda was the party planner, had so many friends she just loved to give parties and invite people over to her house. patricia loved to go to parties, so just wonderful people who did the best they could in life. >> one of the things we all crave when we suffer a loss like this is to come together, mourn, remember and appreciate their lives. not going to get that chance the way you want it right now. how is that playing on your heart? >> that's tough. i think that's the toughest part. toughest part about my sisters' deaths is that they had to die alone in hospital room. i've heard this from other people, devastating to us we couldn't go see them in their last moments. they weren't afraid of death but i think dying alone is the worst
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thing that could have happened but not being able to have a funeral for them. we'll have a memorial service when we can all get back together again. that will bring some bit of closure. right now all we can do is facetime each other and give hugs over the phone. >> how are you keeping that smile on your face? >> because i know that they are in a better place. that's what they believed, that's what i'm going to choose to believe. i know that they lived wonderful lives. i have great memories with them. and i will always remember them, and i just -- there's nothing else you can do but smile right now. i just remember them as wonderful, wonderful people. >> they went to church together, now hopefully they're together as well. seeing the fruit of their faith.
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but what a price to pay for one family. and made so much harder by what you see as inability to be with them. but you know they weren't alone. they had their faith and they knew they had the love of their family every step of the way and now you've got them in spirit to help you get through this. hopefully this will pass soon. richard, so sorry to have you have to tell this story. wish there were any other reason to talk to you. but people need to hear and take this seriously and know that life can change in an instant, more than one. >> i got a chance to say i love you to both as last words to them. didn't know at the time was going to be my last words, but yes. >> we can't say it enough, we love each other, we need each other, care about each other, and even now, you may not be
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able to get together with family, but you can tell them that, hug them with your heart as we're saying now. right now i'm giving you a hug as hard as i can. if there's anything we can do, we're a call away, you know how to get us? >> okay. thank you. >> richard, so sorry for your family, please extend our regards to all the rest of your siblings, all right? >> i will do that, thank you very much. >> be well. listen, i don't know how people do it. i really don't know. i don't know what i would do if i lost anybody in my family, let alone two. you have to cope. question is does any of this has v to happen? from chicago to new jersey, lost four family members to this, big italian family, fuscos, remind me of so many where i grew up. and elizabeth came to tell us family story, gets test back,
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fusco family, i nuintroduced yo to elizabeth and her cousin roseanne, four family members died, mother, three siblings, waiting on tests, all positive, including her own and her daughter. so obviously been monitoring them. finally she had the strength to check in. elizabeth fusco. elizabeth, i have to say, i'm very happy to see you looking well. after i heard about you testing positive, i was so worried for you. it's been a few days, how are you doing? >> i'm doing well. still not showing any symptoms, my daughter is not showing any symptoms, it's a miracle all in itself. >> all right. thank god for you. we do hear the numbers that a lot of people with asymptomatic but what's going on in your family, can't take anything for granted. you said had a particular worry
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about your daughter right? >> born with congenital hernia, has a very compromised lungs. one lung is half the size, other one is 3/4 by now. all of her organs were moved around inside. very rare thing that happens to children. but she only had 3% chance of life coming out of my womb, so it's surreal she tested positive and her body has fought it. >> thank god. thank god. sometimes god has to be good with everything he's put the fusco family through, everything you've endured, good that somebody's getting a break. how does it stand in the wider family? how many people are still fighting this? what's the situation? >> i can tell you my sister
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antonia is home and looking very well. she made it home on friday. i do still have a sister and brother on a vent, fighting very hard for us. and i'm sure the ones who have gone to heaven are watching over them and helping them immensely because they are fighting hard. >> are those the only two who have still sick? i know a lot of people had tests that came back positive. >> those are the only two still sick. and they are still both exactly where they were when this whole nightmare started. they are both still on ventilators. one came home, two on ventilators, four in heaven. >> we're painfully aware of the four.
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i know that's still sinking in about mom and siblings. still doesn't make a lot of sense but thank god for now the virus is leaving the rest of the family alone. help that you needed getting tests after first time you spoke, attention from the state, how does that stand now? are you getting attention in the family that you need? >> again, anytime i message chris smith or his assistant jill, they're always there for me. anything we need, just calling to check up. they knew toni was home before we made it public, jill would call and check on her, sincerely, not just hey, how is your sister doing but like really care. do i still say that the hospitals need help, they're so short staffed.
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and it's rough on them. they need help. because without them our lived ones do not -- no one's loved ones have a prayer. and they're still understaffed, and they still don't have the right things they need. for this being america, this is not right. >> what are you hearing about how it is for your family members who are still in hospital, what is it like, what kind of scene is it like in there? >> we can't see them. we don't know. remember they're on ventilators, so they're sedated. you don't know how your loved ones are in that sense, you truly have to trust and believe and we do in the doctors and nurses. right down to the respiratory therapist, to everyone. i can tell you from my -- what
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my sister toni told me because she came out of there, everyone was just trying their hardest, working around the clock. just being so loving and caring, but they're tired and short staffed. >> they're doing the hardest jobs in worst of circumstances with the biggest unknown and they don't know how long they'll have the equipment and how long the staff will last, lot of horrible issues. it's meant so much that your family, when you spoke out with all the pain you suffered, you still were talking about the needs of people in the hospitals, still bigger than yourselves in way that your family is known for. you've always been about the community. i don't want to take up a lot of your time. i know you still need your rest, just wanted to check in and let people see you're doing okay and for now the family is not having to deal with more trauma.
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we'll keep checking in about your siblings and let me know anything you need. >> absolutely. thank you so much. >> can you imagine losing anyone to a virus, two of your own siblings, four family members including your mother. finding out you have it, your kid who has an issue with her lungs and surviving and look around at what's being done and seems like everybody doesn't seem to get it. how frustrating. we all have to do more to fight this. there but for the grace, your mother, my mother, our families, people we love. we can all do more but it has come time to call out what is happening on high. i have an argument tonight that a lot of people aren't able to make but i am and i will. next. ta-da!
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in a world of doubt, here is a sure thing. if the federal government and the states don't get it together better, you will see sickness and death in this country like you never have before. and while there are a growing number of mayors and governors in need, there is one persistent problem at the top, trump. his two defining flaws are on flagrant display. they are, literally being making us sick. first, his ignorance. >> i have a feeling that a lot of the numbers that are being said in some areas are just bigger than they're going to be. i don't believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. >> he doesn't feel. he doesn't believe. what about this? when you go to war, do you give troops what they need before they come under fire? yes, right? same with healthcare workers. they need the ppe now. they need the ventilators in their localities now. so when they run out of either, there are more at the ready.
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either he doesn't get that, which speaks to a degree of ignorance that is more threatening than anything covid can do. or it is just his second defining flaw on display. his arrogance. >> all i want them to do, very simple. i want them to be appreciative. i say, mike, don't call the governor of washington. you're wasting your time with him. don't call the woman in michigan. it doesn't make any difference what happens if they don't treat you right, i don't call. >> no, you treat them right. our money. our government. our power. we gave it to you. we don't serve you. you serve us. we have the most cases in the world. why? because we have a big population. there's lots of density in places. and we have major foreign travel hubs. but, also, because we've done the least to stop the spread. and, in large part, that's on trump. he slept on this. he lied about it. and, now, he is not doing
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enough. reopen by easter. that's not aspirational. it's asinine. no expert, anywhere, says anything like it. reassess the life limitations we're under now. maybe monday, tuesday, i'll think about it. every state is extending. every world expert says we have to do more, not less. he needs time. the president should say, himself, what his fringe friends are saying. have you heard it? they're okay with a certain number of the frail and the greatest generation dying off to make the economy come back sooner. just say it. because they are saying it for you. and your actions show the same inclination. today, he uses his power with just one company. but, then, he says maybe he'll back out. then he says i'm not sure. states are competing with one another for ppe. prices are popping at a thousand percent. why? because this president won't order companies to do what a
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real wartime president did in world war ii. now, he tells one company, ge, to start after over a week of people begging him to do it. then he walks it back. what the hell is going on? repeating the words of great leaders does not make you one. doing great things when it matters. that does. and that time is now. we are asking everyone to act, now. act for others. take this seriously. how can we be surprised that so many, especially in red states, seem slow to the cause when the man they look to for guidance has lied about it, slow walked it, exaggerated his success, and consistently increased the risk to all of us? together, as ever, as one, is reliant on an acceptance of our interconnectedness and interdependence. we get through, in other words, keeping it simple. suck it up. do the right thing.
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do it now. don't make it all about yourself. no one needs that message more than this president. listen. we're fighting this battle, not just with the military but, with an army of americans. to win, we must expose the ameri-can'ts as well. i got a new batch next. the network is working all the time. we are constantly looking at it, we're constantly monitoring. we take that responsibility very seriously. the most rewarding thing about the work we do is whenever we see a customer able to communicate back to their loved ones. that is why we do what we do. (vo) we're relentlessly committed to the network. so in times like this, we can all stay connected to work, school, and most importantly, to each other.
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in the 2020 census guyisn't complicated.o counts everyone living in your home on april 1st counts. my aunt and uncle who live with us, count. my best friend who sleeps over every friday night, doesn't count. (laughs) my new baby sister, she counts. my mom's best friend, who's been living with us, she counts. the dog, mr. bebe, should count, but he doesn't. complete the census online, by phone, or by mail. shape your future. start here at 2020census.gov
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insurance companies weaseling out of claims by devastated small business owners, who thought they were covered with business interruption insurance. what's getting them? fine print. we will not pay for loss or damage caused by, or resulting from, any virus, bacterium, or other microorganism physical of
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inducing physical disease. the question is, is this fair? it's not ameri-can't written all over it. remember, the $2 billion relief package isn't going to pay all the bills so we'll see what can be done here. we have to expose the need. another ameri-can't and this is disgusting. zoom bombing. these people jumping, uninvited, into video chats. posting lewd images. on tuesday, a group of racists clashed usc online classes so you are going to have ugly people do ugly things. disable the, quote, join before host option. enable co-host. so you can have more moderators. disable file transfer to avoid digital virus sharing. and disable allow removed participants to rejoin so the trolls can't come back in. you know what? we'll have -- i'll post all that stuff online for you. okay? how about some americans. it's friday, right? let's get a little good news
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take us through the weekend. you see all those flashing emergency lights coming from cars in a georgia hospital's parking lot. you know why? show of support for all the brave healthcare workers inside. and the car owners stayed in their cars to pray for the workers. in michigan, a school principal wanted to let one of her students, kaitlan watson, know that she was this year's valedictorian. school's closed so what do you do? phone call didn't seem special enough. watson still works at a local drive-through, which gave the principal a beautiful idea. >> you are gta's 2020 class valedictorian. >> i am? >> you are. >> oh, my gosh, thank you so much. >> isn't that amazing? what an achievement. the ameri-can school of thinking, complete with social distancing. listen. together, as ever, as one, we will make it through. i can't believe some of the things that are happening in leadership. but i be
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