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they're running out fast. >> thank you so much. thanks to your, your producers and everyone else. a really important inside look. and to our viewers thanks very much for watching. we're going to continue to stay on top this coronavirus crisis. it's a huge crisis. we'll try to share as much information with you as we possibly can. stay safe. erin burnett out front starts right now. out front next, the breaking news. the nation's top doctor on coronavirus warning a second outbreak in the fall is likely as the united states sees its highest number of deaths in just one day. plus a health crisis on the front lines. 911 calls are at all-time high in the nation's biggest city, new york. i'm going to speak to an ems worker who's tested positive for the riers. and he has been called patient zero, the first person to be diagnosed with coronavirus in america's capitol, three weeks in the hospital. how's he doing tonight? let's go out front. and good evening.
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i'm erin burnett. out front tonight, the breaking news. the government's top infectious disease expert, dr. anthony fauci, warning even if the coronavirus fades there could be another outbreak. >> are you prepared for this to strike again, say, in the fall? >> i hope it doesn't happen, but we're certainly prepared. >> in fact, i would anticipate that would actually happen because of the degree of transmissibility. however, if you come back in the fall it will be a totally different ball game. >> so that comes -- he fully expects it to happen as more than 500 deaths were reported today from coronavirus in the united states, which is the most deaths reported in a single day. it has been rising throughout the day. each one a life, family, friends dying alone. it will be no funerals. so far there has been nearly
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3,000 deaths, and that means nearly one-sixth of all deaths in the united states occurred today. and the worst we are told is still to come. 13 more states reporting cases tonight. it starts with two, you may see nothing and all of a sudden it's 4 and then 8 and that's how the math works. and now cities and states across the country are desperately trying to curb this spread. nearly two quarters of americans are now at stay at home orders. kaitlyn collins out front at the white house tonight. and the president laying out his vision for the next 30 days in terms of how americans are going to be living their lives. >> reporter: yeah, which is still a surprise given the fact, you know, last week aides inside the white house did not think the president was going to go along with their advice to not ease those guidelines. in the end of course he did. and we saw another turn in what the president has been saying today when he said the economy is now number two in his book as far as the priorities go. and that's not the message we
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heard from the president last week when he said he did not want the solution to be worse than the cure, the problem itself was in this situation. of course talking about the impact social distancing is having on the economy. but two other interesting things from the president's briefing today in the rose garden when he was talking about testing suggesting the united states is now up to par with all the other countries there, comparing to the south korea. something he's been doing several times in recent days as people have been trying to compare and saying, well, it's not the same if you compare them per capita, the rates we're testing compared to what south korea is. and the president trying to defend saying seoul, south korea is close to 40 million people, and we don't have anything close to that. of course the population of seoul is closer to 10 million which mirrors the population in new york city, of course 9 million. the president there trying to defend that, and we know some governors still have been telling the president they're struggling to have adequate testing in their states, and that's becoming a problem in more rural states.
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and one other thing i want to point out the president said when he was talking about ventilators, he was saying essentially the united states soon in his opinion will be making so many and they'll be outpacing soon what we have here and he listed several of them. it comes as you've seen doctors and hospitals pleading with the federal government saying they do not have enough ventilators and they're worried they're going to have a shortage in the days to come. while we do know companies are getting in the process of making them, people like general motors, they also told us yesterday they're not making them. given they are such complex machines they've got to retool their companies. >> kaitlin, thank you very much. as she points what you've got to retrofit, retool and be able to build them and you may not have them when you need them. later this hour we're going to have a piece on a doctor who's found a way to use a ventilator for up to four people. also tonight we have some
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new projections when the virus will peak in each state. nick watt is out front in los angeles. >> reporter: a life lost in brooklyn, one of thousands now across this country. >> i'd like to avoid it, but i wouldn't be surprised if we saw 100,000 deaths. >> reporter: today a navy hospital ship docked in new york city. >> the last time this great hospital ship was in new york was in the wake of 9/11. >> reporter: a field hospital now in central park and fines for those who refuse to social distance. >> the fines are in the range of 250 to $500. that's obviously would be a violation of summons that would be provided. i don't want to see that happen. >> reporter: one research organization now projecting new york will reach peak death rate ten days from now at nearly 800 degs that day. michigan will peak a day later. california 25 days from now, and virginia not until mid-may. >> what you see us going through
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here you will see happening all across this country. there is no american who is immune to this virus. >> reporter: in michigan confirmed cases exploded from around 50 to nearly 6,500 in two weeks. >> we're also worried about detroit. detroit is starting to show some signs that they're going to take off. >> reporter: state to state travel restrictions also spreading. rhode island now ordering all visitors to self-quarantine. they weren't just stopping cars with new york plates, and new york state threatened to sue. from noon today anyone traveling to texas from these states and cities must self-quarantine 14 days. hot spots in all those places. and now it's time we're told for more rural areas to brace themselves. >> if the metros and the rural areas don't take care now by the time you see it it has
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penetrated your community pretty significantly. >> reporter: louisiana today reporting 485 new cases and 34 deaths. still hundreds reportedly attended this church sunday. >> the church is the most essential thing in all the world. >> reporter: a pastor in florida who once prayed over the president was arrested today for continuing to hold large services. doctors from the front line begging us all to stay home. >> you can think of it your lungs are filled with fluid like you're drowning and once you get to that point where you're drowning you need a ventilator to stay alive. and we're running out of equipment for people. >> a young patient was presumably healthy before they came in. this is not something that's isolated to the old. >> reporter: now, there are no federal domestic travel restrictions in place, but as i mentioned the states are pretty much taking care of that
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themselves with these mandatory quarantines on people coming in. and today what i think is a first, the governor of kentucky has now banned all nonessential travel out of the state. they have a relatively low case count, and the governor doesn't want people leaving kentucky, catching the virus and then bringing it home. >> all right, nick, thank you very much. i want to go now to dr. sanjay gupta, and a professor at social and natural science and internal medicine and biengineering at harvard. i want to start on this issue of testing. we just heard the president in the rose garden. he kept talking about u.s. tests and how accurate they are. more than a million people have been tested. alex azar said they're testing now more than 100,000 people a day. look, that's a huge improvement and they say it's more than anyone else of course per capita it's a very different picture, right, but overall.
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are we now at the place we need to be for testing? >> i don't think that's still something we can say, that everybody that wants a test can get a test. i mean we are a lot better off clearly than we were before, but there's a couple of points, erin. one is that this isn't something you can necessarily fully catch up on. when you're testing like this jow look at germany, for example, they've had a lot of people who tested positive for coronavirus. very few deaths. i think early testing really helped there. so it's not just the number of tests, it's when they're performed. the other thing i thought very interesting. if you listen to this news conference ambassador burkes said you're starting to look at this early date from states who have few cases, they are really following the same curve we've seen in some of these places that are considered hot spots. the problem is we don't know for sure how many tests -- how many people have the coronavirus in those places because we haven't tested sort of more uniformly or provided those sorts of testing
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everywhere around the country. so a lot more but still very late. that's going to make a difference, and still not in all the places that need it, erin. >> so doctor, when you hear dr. fauci says he does think 100,000 deaths in the u.s. is very possible, and obviously he and dr. burkes had talked about a range of 100 to 200,000, this would be happening over a very short period of time, over the next weeks if not month plus. is that realistic, do you think? >> yes, i do. i think there's a range of possible levels of mortality we might see. and it's difficult to think of a single number to articulate. i think at least 35,000 americans are going to die over the next year or two years during the pandemic. probably more than 100,000 and could be more than 2, 3, or 400,000. i think that 100,000 is certainly a conservative estimate over the coming months.
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>> wow, a conservative estimate. so, sanjay, then the president says that these masks -- he brought up the masks and the shortage of equipment, right? and his says they have a technology now. they're going to sanitize the masks that will make them as good as new. will it really? and when you hear about they say it's in a couple of states is that relevant to doctors who are on the front line in a hospital? what do we read into, what's the truth here behind that claim? >> first of all this was a technology basically just approve bide the fda to basically be able to sterilize these masks. i've heard we've done a little bit of digging into this they say they can sterilize up to 80,000 mask, even 100,000 masks. if that's true it would obviously be a benefit. one thing i want to point out, erin, is that the demand for masks in the midst of a pandemic if you look some of the projections it's in the billions of masks that are necessary, billions. you know, obviously all these
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technologies help, but, you know, working in a hospital myself i can tell you that every time you go see any patient, i'm not an infectious disease doctor, i'm a neuro surgeon, but all the patients we see now, you have to sort of think they might have this coronavirus. what does that mean? it means your entire team have to wear personal protective equipment for every patient you see. so, you know, the magnitude of masks and all the personal protective equipment that's necessary goes up exponentially, 20, 30 times what it used to be. so this new technology may be there, it may help. and i admire american engiingen in situations like this. >> again, it's all about when you have it. if you don't have it in the window and you need it, it doesn't matter. we now are looking at sanjay points out, you know, the curves of each of the states and some of them are very nascent, their
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numbers are extremely low. but even if you map out the data points you see day by day you have them following a chart as you would see for new york, california, april 25th, florida, may 3rd, virginia not until the middle of may. and there are other states that could be further out than that. you wrote a best selling book, called "blueprint, the evolutionary origins of a society." you have to have people stick with this way longer than they think they need to and by that i mean social distancing. are people going to be able to do this for 6 weeks, for 8 weeks more. >> unfortunately those are the limited tools we're going to have at our disposal. we're not going to have effective drugs for quite some time, so we only have classic means of responding. these are things people can do other than drugs on their own, for example washing their hands, keeping distance, not shaking
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hands, maybe wearing masks. or as a collect chb r, for example, closing public schools, banning public gatherings, stopping traffic. those are things we unfortunately have to do if we want to slow the epidemic. the alternative is willing to tolerate a great number of deaths in a short period of time. and those are the unpleasant choices before us. what we're doing is flattening the curve. we're trying to stop transmission of the virus to buy time so that our health care providers can be ready, so that our personal protective equipment, which we unfortunately didn't prepare for the last 2 months are ready, so our ventilators are ready, and so that the public is prepared to make the necessary sacrifices once we begin to resume a normal life. >> thank you both very much. and out front next the number of first responders testing positive for coronavirus is up sharply. they are literally putting their lives on the line to save others. i'm going to talk to one ems
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worker in new york city who's just tested positive, this as new york's 911 calls has hit a new record every single day now. plus rhode island taking extreme measures to stop the spread of the riers, forcing anyone out of the state to self-quarantine. will it work? and a potential lifesaving break through, one doctor coming up with a way to use one ventilator on multiple people. we're going to show you how it would work.
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tonight a record number of 911 calls in new york city. the fdny says the last five days have been the busiest in the department's history with calls surging by about 50%. and the demand is increasing as more first responders are getting sick. 5,000 nypd officers are out sick, which is nearly 15% of the work force. it is five times the normal sick rate. out front now an ems lieutenant in new york. he tested positive for uniform union. and vincent, look, thanks so much for coming on. i know you just tested positive a little more than a week ago. how are you feeling now? >> a lot better than a week ago. thank you. >> and you feel like you're fully on the mend?
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is that how you understand it at this point? >> yeah, i -- well, a week ago i had high fever, bad cough. i've been four days now with no fever, but i still get an occasional cough, a little bit of shortness of breath. but it's far better today than i was last week. >> i know obviously you're grateful and will be lucky to fully recover as obviously many are not, and some of your colleagues i know are very sick. the fdny received nearly 6,000911 calls yesterday alone and obviously that's a huge jump. tell me how incredibly grueling this is? how are you all managing to do this with so many people are getting sick and getting sick people going in to help? >> it's really tough out there. an average day was maybe 4,000 calls a day.
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maybe in the summer peak at 5,000 a day. here in march we're well over 7,000 calls, and on top of that we were short staffed before the crisis. now with members going out sick we have less members with a higher call volume. so it's just exacerbating the problem. >> and i know that your teams are -- you know, their dedication is incredible. and they are going out, and they are going in peoples homes who have coronavirus. they're doing it often, they don't even have all the gear they need and many of them i know are so worried about spreading it that they're even sleeping in their cars between shifts. >> yes, there's a big concern because we're also short on n-95 masks though share rationing these masks, and many members are afraid to go home and either expose their family to this, or some of them are positive, and they have elderly relatives at home or they have children and a wife at home with a small
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apartment and they don't want to expose their families so they were staying in cars. as recently as today we may have found some places where these members can go to and get some relief and stay inside. >> i want to ask you about something, vincent, i saw that really surprised me. the fdny has told first responders they are required to work even if they are exposed to coronavirus as long as they don't kw that a lot of people without symptoms can spreadou i know believe you may have gotten coronavirus from a fellow ems worker. does this policy concern you? i mean if someone is -- i guess you're responding to calls from people who have coronavirus, and if you don't have symptoms and you're supposed to get a test still it's disturbing. >> we have for testing for ems and all members of fdny from day
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one moch it's important to our members so we know so we don't have to deal with the patients. because if the patients we're picking up are sick and have underlying conditions and we are positive, we're only hurting that patient. >> well, vincent, i appreciate your time. i hope the city hears this, and i'm glad you are feeling better. thank you. >> so do i. thank you very much. i appreciate it. and next a growing number of people rushing to the hospital thinking they're having a heart attack. they're calling 911 for a heart attack, but they find out it is actually coronavirus. former vice president dick cheney's is my guest. and he was the first person to be diagnosed with coronavirus in washington, d.c. just when he thought things were getting better and he was out of the woods he took a serious turn for the worse. three weeks later released from the hospital father tim cole is out front tonight.
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new tonight governors warning president trump about the lack of medical supplies and the lack of an ability to test
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for coronavirus in their states. this is according to a source familiar with a call between the president and governors. according to "the new york times" trump said, quote, i haven't heard about testing in weeks. i haven't heard about testing being a problem. out front now the democratic governor of rhode island who say on that call. and governor, it is nice to talk to you again. obviously i'm not happy about the circumstances, but here we are. the president says he hasn't heard about the testing issue from other governors in weeks. we just heard from an ems responder in new york city saying they can't even get tests for people going into homes of people who have coronavirus who are asymptomatic. is that true no one raised the issue on the call? >> good evening and thank you for having me. first i would say i want to give the president credit for having these phone calls. we have them once or twice a week. almost every governor calls in
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and they've proven to be actually incredibly helpful for us as we we are fighting this on the front lines. having said that i think we're all continuing to struggle with testing, testing supplies and also procuring ppe. and that's a pretty regular refrain that all of the governors have when we talk to each other and when we talk to the president. at this point there just isn't enough out there. >> do you feel like you're competing with other governors now at this point? to be blunt about you you essentially are for you to get supplies? >> there's no question we're competing. and i would say as a smaller state it's doubly hard. my state, i'm not asking for a lot. i'm not asking for more than we need, but i'm out there literally every day and all night scouring the globe to try to find the necessary lifesaving equipment that we need here in the state of rhode island competing against other states, in some some cases, many cases competing against the federal
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government. so it is a challenge, and i think every governor is doing the best that we can. fema, you know, again i give the president credit when he switched from hhs to fema, communication has been a bit better. but,, the bottom line is there just isn't enough out there. we need a massive production particularly ventilators, every state is facing it. >> what can the president do specifically to change this? forget looking backwards at this point he would do that would make this you guys aren't competing with each other and the federal government to run up tax price and compete with the federal government. >> i think the first thing would be to ramp up supply, continue to increase production. i want to hammer home ventilator production is just not where it needs to be and that's a role the federal government can play and is playing but needs to really ramp that up.
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and then? r the same thing really just increasing production on all of this and trying to get it out to the states. >> you have a self-quarantine. anyone who comes into rhode island from another state has to self-quarantine for 4 days. originally that was just related to new york and new york license plates and you've made it related to everybody. but when it was just new york here's what governor cuomo said to you. >> if they don't roll back that policy i'm going to see rhode island because that cleary is unconstitutional and i think what rhode island did is at that point of absurdity. >> point of absurdity? >> yeah, so he got a little carried away but like all of us he's under a lot of stress. he's doing the best he can for his state. i'm doing the best for my state. he didn't sue. i think he realized he doesn't have a good case, and we are pursuing our strategy. so, listen, we governors are all
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working hard right now. and here in rhode island i know i put policies in place based on facts and public health, and this is a policy right now that is keeping us safe. >> thank you very much, governor. i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thanks. a troubling new trend also seems to be emerging because there's so much we just don't know about this virus. now there are reports of patients going to the doctor or calling 911 thinking they're having a heart attack and they find out it's related to coronavirus instead. out front now the codirector of the cardiac hospitalization program who also advised a george w. bush white house for 8 years and was the advisor for dick cheney. they have a heart attack and they go to the hospital and you say you're seeing this right now in your not just at gw, but all around in the world.
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all around the pandemic reports started to circulate, first coming out of china and then out of italy, patients who would present with more typical covid-19 symptoms, maybe even severe symptoms recover from their or seemingly recover from their respiratory illness and suddenly decompensate in a matter of hours and die. and what physicians around the world were identifying were patterns that suggested that the heart itself was being attacked by either the virus or by an exuberant immune response to the virus, in some cases mimicking that of a heart attack. >> so is there any way to tell if someone comes in and you're talking about some cases where someone may have recovered. but in some cases where someone doesn't know they had symptoms of covid-19 or a symptomatic, they come in presenting with a heart attack. how can you tell whether it's
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the coronavirus or a heart attack? how do you know? yeah, it can be really hard. and it's creating a dilemma for teams around the united states and around the world. many of the symptoms of acute coronavirus illness, you know, the shortness of breath and chest pain mimic those of a heart attack. and we're seeing in an increased number of patients ekg abnormalities that also mimic or differ in a very subtle way from a classic noninfectious heart attack. and it can be very hard to tease this out. the problem is that still very few places in the united states, almost no place in the united states has the ability to do rapid covid-19 testing. you know, hopefully with the announcement of the system coming online that'll change. but right now a patient comes to the emergency room with symptoms a heart attack and an ekg consistent with a heart attack. it may be a classic mycocardial
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infarction or a patient prebting with covid. early on we developed a strategy to suggest every patient coming into the er may be infected with covid-19 and put in place a protocol to protect our staff, and essentially a universal precaution. >> look, it's very terrifying for people especially because you don't know what you don't know and you think oh, this isn't what i'm suffering from and indeed it could be something else. you're also mentioning the fact this changes the entire way you treat people. you have to assume because you now have this data which affects how you have to prepare yourself. and the president today was talking about new york hospitals and why they're running out of personal protective equipment, and, you know, he was defending it was sort of walking out the door implying i don't know being taken for personal use or stockpiled or something like that. here's what he said dr. renner. >> i addressed what was told to
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me by a tremendous power in the business. when you go from 10,000 masks to 300,000 masks, mike, over the same period of time, there's something going on. >> just talking about the masks seeming to be i guess walking away. you know, what's your reaction to the president i mean when he seems to think that's what's happening as opposed to demand from doctors like yourself. >> i don't know why this is so hard for him to understand. we have a pathogen which is easy to transmit. we now know it can be transmitted before you even develop symptoms. it's now thought 20% to 30% of the transmission occurs from mildly symptomatic or asymptomatic people. so we've had to put in place practices in hospitals to protect staff not just from acquiring the virus from patients but also to protect them from transmitting
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unknowingly the virus to their colleagues. so our hospital, gw hospital was among the first to put in a plan where all staff in the hospital, all clinic facing staff in the hospital wear masks all the time. so, again, i don't know understand why it's so hard for the president to understand where if you have a virus which is rampant in the community and in a hospital not only with the patients but also among the staff that everyone needs to wear a mask. so you take a situation where only surgeons or surgical staff are wearing mask or people interacting with a small number of patient and now we put in a system where the entire staff of a hospital is wearing the mask. >> doctor, i appreciate your time and thank you very much, sir. >> my pleasure. and next a priest who was the first to test positive for coronavirus in washington, d.c., he spent several days in the
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tonight the first person in washington, d.c. to test positive for the coronavirus he's been called d.c.'s patient zero after three weeks in the hospital, about half spent in the icu, he's now finally home and better. and out front now father timothy cole. and father, thank you so much for coming on. your story is one which may buo abuoy and bolster so many. what was your experience like in the hospital for so long? >> elwiwell, it's this kind of sensory dep pruivation and exercise after a while. but you're sick and don't think too much about it. you just get by each day as you
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can. >> i know originally you felt like you had the flu and after a few days you felt better, so much bet you could go back to your parish to conduct services but then you took a sudden turn and had to go back to the hospital. tell me about that. how sudden and how the decline was. >> sure. i thought i had flu. went for bed for three days, went until the fever broke and waited another 24 hours before going back to work, and then i worked friday, saturday and sunday and monday afternoon i just started feeling really bad again so i flew to the doctor. >> you are a man of faith, father, but of course your situation was dire. you talk about a sense of dep at any moment think this could be the end? >> to be honest i never thought
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to myself i was that sick and in retrospect people are telling me that. i did feel -- it did occur to me of course because you're just sitting there waiting for your body to get better or get worse. so it did occur to me from time to time that, you know, maybe it's going to get worse. so it occurred to me. >> you bow, because you obviously had what you thought was the flu, you waited for the fever to go aa, you gave it an extra day. when you went back to work for those three days, that weekend 550 people from your church had to self-quarantine and 500 of your parishioners had tested positive. how hard was it for you to hear about these cases when you thought you'd done everything right and that should happen?
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>> i was really sorry of course to hear in particular about the organist and the four parishioners and of course the huge inconvenience everyone had to go through to be quarantined, sure. >> when do you think you'll be able to be fully back at work again now that you are better? >> well, i'm now in quarantine for a couple of weeks and then we'll have to look at, you know, some kind of gradual return to work and getting my healing done as well. but i hope soon. and certainly to start soon. >> all right, well father, cole, thank you so very much andto be. thank you so god bless. and out front next, what could be a game changer in the
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tonight the potential game changer in treating coronavirus patients. doctors in new york city using a strategy to treat multiple people with one ventilator, maybe four or more. paula newton is out front. >> reporter: out of desperation doctors in new york city and italy are now using ventilators meant for one person to keep two patients alive. and doctors say if they don't
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try it more patients could die. >> we know that difficult decisions will have to be taken. i'm optimistic we'll be able to save some lives if we try this. we've got nothing to lose. >> reporter: the doctor is a small he is now working with engineers and doctors across north america to refine a crude, but life-saving technique first seen here. >> here you have a t 2 here, here and here. >> dr. charlene posted this youtube video two weeks ago. as an e.r. doctor in detroit, she wrote a study on the technique more than a decade ago. she said doctors all over the world have asked her for this how-to video. she uses t-tube spliters in the video and shows how to use three adapters to split two valves into four ports, helping up to four patients at once. >> this is not a study in humans. i will tell you what has been done in humans. >> reporter: in the tragic hours
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that followed the las vegas shooting doctors used t-tubes until they could be transferred to other hospitals. this is the kind of ventilator dr. gotier is trying to adapt. >> dr. babcock said to use t-connectors at both ports with appropriate filters to decrease the amount of cross-contamination from one patient to the other. >> reporter: he is studying it closely teaming up with engineers at m.i.t. to brain storm on best practices. >> the challenge with that is the matching of those two patients. so initially we're going to try to put two patients that are the same size, same respiratory system properties and we'll be able to ventilate them for a while. >> reporter: new york governor "day without a woman" has be andrew cuomo has been blunt that more will die without ventilators. he has pushed the fda to double up on the ventilators. >> the tricky thing is the ventilator has a set pressure
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and normally you regulate the pressure to that patient's lungs. >> reporter: and that is why this technique is highly controversial. some respiratory specialists question whether multiple patients on one ventilator receive optimal treatment. that's where specialists like dr. gottier come in. >> i know we will not be able to save everyone. there's going to be a lot of learning during this whole process. but i'm confident in the end that we'll be able to help people by this system. >> reporter: paula newton, cnn, ottowa. >> and next as macy's and kohl's announce major furloughs, small business owners are also asking how can they survive. chicago! ok so, magnificent mile for me... i thought i was managing my moderate to severe crohn's disease. until i realized something was missing... me. you ok, sis? my symptoms were keeping me from really being there for my sisters.
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tonight three major retailers, macy's, gap and
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kohl's announce they are furloughing employees because of the shutdown. many small business owners have been forced, though, to taken credibly drastic action just to try to keep their doors open. ken law is out front. >> reporter: behind the forced closure of each door ton one short block of stores is a story. about the small businesses that employ half of america's private work force. >> i mean, when you put everything into watching something grow and then it stops suddenly -- i was sitting on the floor just sobbing. >> reporter: jen owns fitness studio metamorphosis. >> scrounge every single dollar, every penny to open, and we did it. >> how are we going to survive with -- we're going to wake up the next morning and have zero
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income. like how does that work, you know? >> reporter: small businesses like studio metamorphosis are due to receive close to the $400 billion earmarked and the $2 trillion government stimulus plan. >> excellent form. >> reporter: as business owners wait for that financial relief -- >> good job, pam. >> reporter: they're trying to stay connected to customers. yates holding free virtual workout classes, making no money. >> i'm sorry. >> reporter: while at michelle's store, native boutique -- >> i overdrew my account. i had payroll today. >> reporter: speed for this aid is key to her survival. >> i'm concerned of getting dug deeper into a hole, more debt. i have a great opportunity to stay open, to be in more debt. we need grants, not just loans. >> reporter: emergency grants and loan forgiveness are a part of the stimulus package. so is a payroll tax credit, and
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a pause on existing small business loans. >> hello again. ♪ earth angel, won't you be mine ♪ ♪ >> reporter: welcome news to bloom school business and dance. that's moved to all virtual lessons, proven to be successful so far. but with the large payroll and high rent, owner laura porter worries how long this package will sustain mainstream with weeks or months ahead of fighting the outbreak, and what this block will look like at the end. >> it's so frightening because it's a day-by-day thing. i can't even look at september. >> reporter: what is it that you would like your leaders and this country to hear from you? >> they have to listen to the average american out of work. you know, and small businesses are a big part of that. >> reporter: there are 30
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million small businesses operating in the country, employing nearly 60 million americans in the private sector. erin, we are talking about this one block, but this can be any block in any town in this country. erin? >> thank you. thanks to all of you. anderson starts now. >> and good evening, everyone. today was the deadliest day yet in the coronavirus pandemic. according to cnn health, 519 people died in this country. that's in one day. to put this new number in perspective, the total number of deaths from this pandemic is currently 2,948. that means that about one in every six deaths happened today. the virus is clearly gaining momentum and it is going to get much worse. on sunday, dr. anthony fauci told my colleague jake tapper even with current stay at home orders, we could see between 100,000 and 200,000 deaths in this