first responders. and how about a hand for dr. anthony fauci? and we don't mean a hand on his head, for his shining role. >> we're starting to see glimmers. >> reporter: he's been plastered on t-shirts, even cups. a linguini with white clam sauce named after him. order a fauci and donut delight that added an image to their donuts that's been imitated by other bakers. adding butter scotch covid cream and sprinkles. >> making doughnuts to bring attention to a health crisis might be the most american thing. >> reporter: the accolades aren't a cure if the i love new york treatment makes it all feel a little better. even man's best friend chimed in. [ dog barking ] >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn, new york. shall >> and thanks for watching.

anderson starts now. >> reporter: and good evening. the white house coronavirus task force completed a stark and stunning presentation in the last hour warning what the president called a very painful two weeks ahead. according to the latest projection presented by scientists on the task force today, 100,000 to 240,000 people in this country will die in the weeks and months ahead. 100,000 to 240,000. and that is with current stay at home orders and social distancing efforts. that is certainly not good news, but when you compare it to the alternative, it just might be. on a chart called goals of community mitigation also presented by the task force, we saw estimates of what would happen without isolation and mitigation efforts. 1 million people in this country could die, possibly many more than that. so let me make it clear. according to best estimates embraced by the nation's top scientists, if we were not

following stay at home orders or social distancing orders, 1 million or more of us would die in this country. as it is right now, 100,000 to 240,000 of us will likely die. this is where we are tonight in this pandemic. and as dr. anthony fauci said during that presentation, models are only as good as the assumptions they're based on. the question is can we do more to bring the death toll down? we're going to look at that tonight because the answer is yes. the question is can we actually do it? do we have the staying power? as dr. deborah birx said, there would be no magic bullets or vaccines at least immediately. rather, she said our behavior -- our behavior -- you and me -- is all we have to stem the number of dead. and these are the numbers as we know them today. at least 794 people died today. that's a single-day record in the u.s. just like yesterday's 519 dying this this country was a record. just like sunday's total of 456

people, men and women who died, was a record. every day new records, and every day we break that record by more and more people dying. the total number of death, 3,798 in this country. as for house the white house came up with these projections, this is what dr. birx had to say. >> so right now we're at about 4,000 deaths here in the united states. are you suggesting a spike of more than 90,000 deaths over the next few weeks, do you have a demographic break down of the areas that are most at risk and where most of those deaths may occur? >> well, right now -- and i think if you ask chris murray, he would say he's using the information coming out of new york and new jersey and applying that to potentially other states having the same outcome. >> you heard dr. birx refer to dr. murray.

he joins us now, dr. chris murray, the chair of health metric sciences, the university of washington, the person part of the team that assembled this projection and has continued to update it. also joining us is senior chief medical scientist dr. sanjay gupta. dr. murray, you talked to us earlier today. can you explain to us the models, what they're based on? just so we're clear the 100,000 to 240,000, that is with current efforts underway to isolate. is that correct? >> so, in our models which are based on trying to look at what's going to happen to death in the u.s., assuming that social isolation is kept in place right through to the end of may in our models, and that gives us a mean estimate of about 80,000 deaths, we're slightly more optimistic to what ambassador birx said. but there is a very wide range,

very similar to what we heard from the white house in those models. the basis of them is coming from seeing the experience around the world, places like wuhan in china that bent the curve down. and now evidence coming here, the u.s., that social isolation is working to reduce the caseload. >> dr. murray, when you say it's based on the continuation of these social distancing efforts, do you mean the efforts that are currently underway? because right now, you know, those of us who are staying at home and social distancing as much as possible in states where it's been ordered, we think everyone is doing it, but they're not. the whole country is not doing this. there are many governors who have not put stay at home orders in place in their states, even though all the science points to this saving lives. if more states started putting those orders in place immediately, would that affect the death toll?

>> absolutely. and, in fact, we've taken -- because we're trying to help hospitals plan for the surge, and so we're trying to say this is what we think is most likely to happen. and so to do that, we have assumed that all the states that don't yet have stay-at-home orders in place will do so within a week because of the magnitude of the challenge that the country is facing. if they don't put those in place within a week, then the epidemic will be larger and will actually potentially last longer. >> so your 80,000 estimate, where as the white house is saying 100,000 to 240,000, your estimate is assuming within a week, all the governors and states that have not put this in place will wake up and realize, i have to do this, i should have done this earlier, now i'm going to do it. and that will end up with 80,000 deaths. if they don't do that, you would say on your projection it's going to be -- you can draw a

clear line and say there's going to be more people who die? >> absolutely. just like a weather forecast, there's a lot of uncertainties here. the weather forecasts keep changing. the closer you get to the day, the better they get. we're updating our forecast every night so that at 6:00 a.m. pacific time, there is a new set of forecasts and we take on board immediately if a state has made a new stay at home order and that would change the trajectory. and if they keep delaying, then our forecast will get worse as time goes by. >> sanjay, what i don't understand -- you hear from dr. murray. you heard from dr. fauci and dr. birx and the task force, the science is clear. if there is social distancing, if there is stay-at-home orders in states, fewer people will die. and we're talking about possibly tens of thousands or more people. that's the difference. i don't understand why social distancing, stay-at-home orders are not in place across this country given the science is

clear. >> yeah, i mean, anderson, i think they should be. we've been talking about this feels like for a couple of months now. essentially saying this and reminding people that, look, you know, people's behavior in this country directly affects the health of people all over the country, you know. how you behave affects me and how i behave affects you. we've been saying this for sometime. and yet it still seems like there's been this sort of false balance that some of these states have been trying to strike between the economy and public health. i mean, you know, one thing you'll say about the recommendations that have come nationally, even though two weeks ago, two weeks and a day ago, that's when they started the 15-day pause. many states have not kept up with that. even when they started that pause, i think they knew -- i think dr. fauci knew for certain it was going to be extended. and now till april 30th. as you hear from dr. murray, that his projections count on that extending till the end of may. so that's eight weeks from now,

just to be clear, eight weeks, not four weeks. eight weeks plus the two weeks we already had, that's ten weeks. and yet you still have states that haven't even implemented at this point. it's worrisome, you know, and models are models, you know. when you look at the background sort of levels of coronavirus in some of these states, frankly i'm curious what dr. murray says about this. how do you even know? we haven't done adequate testing in these places. i don't want to belabor that point. it's a huge problem. we don't know what's going to happen in those states. a week ago michigan had 15 cases. now they're considered one of the hot spots, detroit. it can be explosive in some of these places. >> dr. murray, i don't know why any governor would be lulled into a sense that it's not a big issue in their state given the fact that the testing has been so screwed up this entire time, there's not enough tests out there no matter what the president may say even on sunday

saying he hadn't really heard any complaints about testing lately. are the numbers adequate -- to base a projection without testing, are the numbers accurate? >> so, because of all the concerns about variation in testing rates across states, who gets tested, we haven't really paid much attention to the case numbers. our forecasting is really driven by looking at what we think is stronger, not perfect, but stronger evidence, which is people dying from covid-19. and the reason is that in settings with limited tests, they're preferentially being given by the staff to the sickest patients. so we believe those more and those are a better basis for coming up with these forecasts. so, you know, we shouldn't be lulled into a false sense of security if there are low numbers of cases. >> if we had better testing, that would be good for you in

terms of gathering data and accuracy. >> absolutely. you know, more data is great. we're getting a flood from many states of data since we released these forecasts last week. that's helping to improve them. we're getting much better insights into the ages affected. and with each no data, better forecasts. >> dr. murray, i appreciate all your efforts. dr. chris murray, thank you so much. sanjay, i want you to stay with us. i want to bring in the former baltimore health commissioner. dr. wen, 140,000, 200,000 deaths. i guess that's also assuming that all the states or maybe it's not. maybe just assuming current stay at home orders. dr. murray's was 80,000 deaths, assuming all the states within a week start to do stay-at-home orders. it's alarming. >> that's right, it very much is. these are the optimistic est matsz. that's assuming we are doing

everything, which we know we're not. i think just to underscore this point that we know what works, and we need to be doing that. we need to be strengthening health care capacity, getting tests out. also we really need to be abiding by the social distancing guidelines because that's what's really turned things around in other countries and would be what works here, too >> sanjay, the white house task force said to be actively discussing whether the public should be wearing masks. the president at the briefing suggested people should just wear scarves. i want to play what he said. >> we can use a scarf. a scarf is -- a lot of people have scarves, and you can use a scarf. scarf would be very good. my feeling is if people want to do it, there is certainly no harm to it. i would say do it. but use a scarf if you want, you know, rather than going out and getting a mask or whatever. we're making millions and millions of masks, but we want them to go to the hospitals.

one of the things that dr. fauci told me today is we don't want them competing -- we don't want everybody competing with the hospitals where you really need them. so, you can use scarves. you can use something else. >> so, before up to now, the advice from professionals has been the masks are really for people who are sick or obviously medical professionals. you touch your face more with the mask. if you don't have it already, you're touching your face more. sanjay, do you think people should be wearing masks now? >> you know, i think maybe we're going to get to the point where people will wear masks more often in public. but let me explain why. first of all, the w.h.o. and the cdc are still not on board with this. their concern is people wearing masks may lull them into a false essential of security for the reasons you just mentioned, anderson. they may also say it will reduce discipline regarding social distancing because people will feel like they're fine with the mask, they can go out in public,

where as they should stay home. still, no matter what. here's what the difference is. here's the point of debate right now. if you sort of think about people having the virus, the fact that it's spreading and that there are people who are asymptomatic and they're spreading it, could a mask -- not a hospital mask, n95 surgical mask, could it help asymptomatic, people who have the virus, could it reduce the likelihood that they spread it? that's really the question at play here. it's not so much for healthy people to prevent them from getting the virus. it's not going to do that, but for someone who has it but doesn't even maybe know it, could it reduce the likelihood of them spreading it. i think that's the question here at play. and dr. fauci, i talked to him about this at length this afternoon, anderson, and really pinned him down. and what he ultimately said was he's leaning toward that. he's leaning toward that. you know, the balance, interestingly where we talk about the shutdowns, the balance between public health and

economy, the balance here is between public health and perception and optics and this idea that if people are wearing masks out in public, will america be perceived as sick. you know, other countries do this culturally. we don't really do it in this country. so that's really, i think, one of the discussion points. but i think, you know, they're making the argument as this has evolved as the virus has become more widespread there may be some merit to it. >> to be clear, i think it's an important point for dr. fauci, the idea is people wearing masks so that if it turns out they are -- they actually have the virus, they just don't have any symptoms and don't know they have the virus, that will prevent them from spreading it. it's not just that everybody should be wearing a mask because it will protect them from ever getting it. >> that's right. still, the first advice is the first advice. people should stay home. if you have symptoms, you should especially stay home. but for people who are doing essential things out there, if they're behaving like they may have the virus -- something that we talked about -- maybe as part of that to protect other people as opposed to trying to prevent

themselves from getting the virus, a mask may help. >> dr. sanjay gupta, dr. wen as well, thank you very much. i want to talk to jim accosta. the press briefing ended in 2 hours 11 minutes, ended 40 minutes ago. jim, what stood out to you? >> reporter: anderson, i will tell you in seven years i have covered the white house, that is the most stunning briefing i have ever sat through. to have public health officials come in and try to explain to the american people that they need to come to grips with the fact or the very strong likelihood that we're going to see 100,000 to 200,000 americans die in the next couple months from the coronavirus. i have to tell you, it was just downright chilling. now, i will say in terms of what the president was saying in the briefing room, this was president trump changing his tune on the coronavirus. at one point he said it's not the flu, it's vicious. that's after he has compared it to the coronavirus in the past. you mentioned just a few moments ago where he was advising that americans perhaps start wearing

scarves because of these recommendations that are starting to come from people like dr. fauci that perhaps wearing masks in public might be a good idea. at one point the president said we're about to enter a ruff two-week period. this is just a stark contrast from what the president was saying a couple of weeks ago and how he's been describing this coronavirus all along. and so we're trying to poke and prod in a number of areas during that briefing, anderson. i asked the president why is he talking about holding back 10,000 ventilators. and as he was describing it, it's because they want to be able to get those off to places in need over the next couple of months. you do get the sense, anderson, that they are getting into a war-like posture in trying to attack this virus. but at the same time, anderson, i think the question had to be asked, how is it that the president is going to determine who gets these ventilators? he at one point said during the briefing that's something he's going to be deciding, that his task force is going to be

deciding. so i think, anderson, we're about to enter a period where this government, the administration is going to be making some very uncomfortable choices about how to care for americans who are in very dire straits over the next couple of months. the other thing i think needs to be pointed out, at one point the president, when i asked him, you know, could we have mitigated this a lot better? could we have reduced the number of people facing, you know, the possible likelihood that they may die over the next couple of months. the president said, you see what happens when you get off to a late start? he was pointing the finger at that point at new york state and other areas that weren't really mitigating very strongly at first. but, anderson, the same thing could be said of the president. he got off to a late start because of the way he was telling people that this was going to go away, that this was going to miraculously disappear and so on. i tried to press the president on that at a number of points and he said, you know, when he was pressed on this, he said he simply wanted to keep people in

good spirits, that he didn't want to be somebody who was passing along bad news and he wanted to be an optimist and so on. but i have to tell you, anderson, i've never seen president trump like this. i know people might say, well, you know, i can't ever trust him. he's a phoney and so on. people may say that. anderson, i have to tell you sitting in that room that close to him, i've never seen president trump like this. i think to some extent he is scared right now, anderson, and we could all feel that in the room. >> jim, let me ask you. what was startling to me is you have governor cuomo this morning discussing, i don't know how to characterize it, frustration, disgust, you know, whatever it is, that states are now being told you've got to find your own ventilators. so states are now bidding against each other. then he says fema comes in and bids against the states. and it's just a totally messed up system, it's driving the prices up. the president was asked about

that. he -- he went around and round on it. but he ultimately came down to saying, they shouldn't be doing that because you're going to be bidding up the prices which is exactly what governor cuomo said is happening. and the president said, well, the states shouldn't do that. they should call the white house and the white house would get the ventilators and then send it to the states. that is in stark -- that is exactly the opposite of what president trump said a while ago, which was it's not the federal government's job to be sending out and supplying the states. the states are the ones who should go out and get ventilators and do stuff, and then the federal government is a backup. >> reporter: that's right, anderson. i don't think the president wanted to i think come to that reality, that we have a situation right now in this country where governors are competing with one another for vital life-saving medical equipment. and, quite frankly, when the president says we're going to keep 10,000 ventilators in a stockpile and send them off when they're needed in certain hot spots, it may be too little too

late. some of these hot spots may need many more than that. and so i tried to ask the question, you know, is that part of the modelling? is that part of the reason why they're saying 100,000 to 200,000 deaths because we just don't have the equipment, we weren't ready, we weren't prepared as a nation? and, you know, dr. birx came up to the lectern at one point, dr. fauci. i think dr. fauci came the closest to anybody in the room acknowledging that had we been more aggressive sooner, that perhaps we might have been able to lower this projection that was just grabbing us by the shirt collar. in that room, dr. birx was saying this virus even surprised her. i think there are going to be so many lessons learned moving forward, anderson. the stark message we got in the briefing room this evening is unmistakable. this country is about to go through a horrendous terrible experience, and i have to tell you, people may not believe the president when he says any of this, and i have been -- you and i have been, you know, pretty

critical of him from time to time. >> yeah. >> reporter: this was a different donald trump tonight. i think he gets it, anderson. >> thank you. jim accosta. joining me is the governor of maryland, governor hogan. thank you for joining us. i know how busy you are. the president says go to them for equipment. the states shouldn't be bidding against each other which governor cuomo says is happening. is that happening for maryland as well? >> i think the message is changing because the situation on the ground is changing, anderson. yes, it had been happening and the message was that states should go ahead and on their own go get testing and states should get their own ppe and masks and ventilators. and now that's changed a little bit as of the messaging today. it is a problem, but look, the federal government is responding to the crisis. the governors are trying to respond to the crisis. and it doesn't do a lot of good to continue to point fingers. we're all trying to catch up. but, yeah, it has been a

problem. not only are the states competing with one another, but we're on the open market to try to grab these things that there's a short supply of and we all desperately need. but now we're competing with the federal government and sometimes with other countries around the globe because, quite frankly, there's just not enough of all of these things and there's not an organized fashion. so i think everybody is trying to grapple with that. i understand the frustration that governor cuomo was expressing. i'm chair of the national governors association. many governors are expressing the frustration. today there was a little bit of a change. today we're going to try to organize this. that's not what we were hearing a couple days ago. on testing it's sort of just the opposite, you should go get your own testing. >> do you have the ventilators you need in maryland? >> no. no state in america has enough ventilators and we're short of a lot of these things. and that's what we keep pushing. we've had six of these calls with all the governors across

america, with the vice-president or the president, and these are the kind of -- it's the shortage of all of these things. masks and ppe and ventilators. it's not just a problem in new york or new jersey or california. it's every single one of the 50 states and the five territories have the exact same issue. we don't have enough of these things. it's not pointing fingers. it's not the federal government has failed, the states have failed. there's not enough of these things. no one was prepared for this. we're all caught flat-footed. bottom line is every one of us has to work together because it's about what we can do tomorrow and what we can do over the next couple of weeks to save the lives of tens of thousands of people instead of just us wasting time arguing about who should have done what. i think that's more productive. >> just in terms of that, moving forward, maryland now, you have now stay-at-home orders for your state, correct? that happened today? >> yes -- well, no, it was actually yesterday. but, look, we've been i think more aggressive than 48 other

states. i was the first governor i think in america to declare state of emergency like 28 days ago. >> right. >> we were the first or second -- close all the schools. we're one of the first to close all the bars and restaurants. in all the entire washington metropolitan region, we had maryland, d.c. and virginia, where we believe we're about two weeks behind new york. all of us, 14 1/2 million people now have a solid, very strong stay-at-home order right here in the nation's capital where we're home to 440,000 federal workers that are at the heart of fighting this crisis for the rest of america, that we're about to be impacted. we're the next wave. >> what would your advice be for other governors of states who have not imposed that? i know it's a difficult thing to do. obviously there's huge economic consequence for it. as you said, you've been out front on a lot of this stuff from very early on. what would your message be to the other governors? because the science seems to me to be clear. i mean, i talked to bill gates about this and fauci about this last week and just -- dr. murray

who does the modelling tonight. if all the states -- he's assuming those 80,000 deaths or that 100,000 deaths that the white house is assuming, that's based on the idea that all states will by the end of next week have stay-at-home orders. do you think it's important to urge all governors to do it now? >> look, i think -- i don't know why we're not addressing this at the federal level instead of saying the governors should be able to make up their own minds. >> most governors have a guideline. >> we could have done that awhile ago, but we haven't. but now 80% of the people in america are under these kinds of orders. i don't know why other governors haven't taken these steps. they probably need to be considering those things because we're looking at the difference between on the low side, you know, 80 or 100,000 people. on the high side, 1 1/2 million people if we don't take action. this is just absolutely essential. we've been as aggressive as possible. many other governors have, because we're trying to save the

lives of tens of thousands of people in our state. >> yeah. >> look, there are huge economic impacts and nobody wants to damage the economy and put people out of work and hurt small businesses. right now it's about saving lives and trying to protect the health and safety of our people. that has to come first, and later we're also going to have to address the problem of the economy. >> governor larry hogan, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you, anderson. >> just ahead, the latest about the outbreak in new york metropolitan area. the commissioner of the new york police department is going to join us to talk about the damage the pandemic has done to the police force. we'll also speak with the governor of new jersey and his request of the white house for ventilators and comments about new jersey and new york got a late start fighting the virus. ♪ ♪

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and they're counting on your takeout and delivery orders to make it through. grubhub. together we can help save the restaurants we love. moments ago we learned the death toll from today from coronavirus has increased, 811. that's one day. the president's task force is reporting of modelling for social distancing and people staying home, new york the hardest hit area at this point. joining me is art gionelli, morning side hospital. thank you for being with us. you posted a video on instagram which said your hospital is, quote, as broke as the city is served for more than 170 years. how dire is the situation for you and your staff? >> well, anderson, first of all, it's a pleasure to be on your show. it is dire. it's dire particularly for our staff and the patients that we serve. so yesterday, for example, we

had 223 patients who were covid positive in our hospital, representing about 70% of the total census in our hospital. and what i meant by that phrase was to say that we've really turned our hospital upside down in order to create capacity to accept these covid-positive patients. we've created icus where they didn't exist previously. we've turned cardiology space into space to take care of covid-positive patients. >> and how are your supplies? >> so, our supplies are hanging in. i have to say that the mount sinai health system has done an extraordinary job sourcing supplies for us. we've actually looked all over the globe and our reach has been that broad in order to bring in enough personal protective equipment and enough ventilators and enough other supplies to be able to support our staff. so we're holding on right now, but we continue the effort to try to find more because we

realize this is going to be a marathon as your previous segment spoke to. we're going to be looking at weeks and months here, not days. >> yeah. so, i mean, the next two or three weeks, are you prepared for what lies ahead? again, for the white house tonight just hearing the next few weeks seem to be heading toward the apex. >> so, we've known that we're heading toward the apex now for sometime, both based on the projections that the governor of the state of new york has been providing and our own internal projections. because of that, we have been preparing really 24/7 at this point. again, creating bed capacity to accept these covid-positive patients, creating icu capacity where that capacity didn't exist previously, bringing in additional ventilators, bringing in additional personal protective equipment, bringing in and resourcing staff. we're doing things different previously that we're now assigning to this work.

>> we appreciate what you're doing and all the medical professionals you work with. we'll continue to keep in touch with you. a among those falling, new york's finest joining me now is new york city police commissioner. commissioner shea, what are the latest figures you have and how many members of the force have tested positive for the virus? and then i know there is a larger percentage of the force which is out sick now. >> that's right. well, as i stand here tonight, about 1200 members of the department have tested positive. that's on the uniform and civilian side. most of them aren't uniform side. we know that that number is much higher. the tests continue to come in on a daily basis literally. right about 5600 members now, just on the uniform side that are sick. those numbers have been growing -- >> so 5600 -- >> where ever this apex is -- >> that's 15% of the force, right, or 13? >> that's right. now we're at about a little over 15%. >> at what point does it become a serious hindrance -- i mean,

15% of the work force out, that sounds like a lot to me. at what point does it become a hindrance to policing in the city? >> well, it's causing us to, you know, think differently certainly, and move resources around, do many things differently. everything we ask, everything that we throw at them, i'll tell you that the men and women in uniform and civilian are responding, they're handling it. they really are proving why they're the finest. what's helping us is many of the things they are tied up on, whether it's parades, protests -- crime has dropped in the last couple weeks. there's nobody on the streets. that is a silver lining, if you will, and a real tough situation. >> in terms of the equipment that you need, personal protective equipment, not just like tyvek suits for detectives, but gloves and masks for officers. do you have supplies for that ready in need? >> we do -- we do, and it's certainly a concern about

running out. we've really revamped our supply chain internally. so our warehouse right to the commands that need it, set up assistance so they can get it quicker. really message that back and forth, worked with the unions, our police foundation. i mean, everyone across new york city is stepping up to make sure that we have what we need. but the same items you hear about nightly from the doctors and nurses are really what's in supply here. masks, n95 masks, gloves, hand sanitizer, tyvek suits, those are the items that law enforcement are in great demand. >> well, in a time like this, i'd like to work -- i'm lucky enough to stem cell ill be work. i see police officers on the streets. it's a good feeling, as a lifelong new yorker, to see police on the streets at a time like this. i appreciate all you and your officers are doing. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> commissioner shea, appreciate it. coming up more on this as the

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been discussing the u.s. death toll that could range from 100,000 to 240,000, and that number, of course, as you heard at the top of the program depends on current stay-at-home orders. tonight the recent update shows nearly 80% of the country's population is under some form of stay-at-home order from state or local officials. take a look at the map. if shows you how many states do not have full statewide stay at

home orders. ohio, nebraska, south dakota, tennessee, texas, utah and wyoming. joining me now is governor phil murphy from new jersey, they have a statewide order. when you see the list of the states that don't have this, it's kind of stunning to me that everybody now does not have it. what's your message to people out there about staying at home? >> good to be with you, anderson. i'm not sure i can give a message to those states other than i know in our state, please, god, stay at home. and i have to believe as governor cuomo has so eloquently said that new york and new jersey are the canary in the coal mine here. i wish it were otherwise, but the way we win this war is to break the back of the virus, flatten that curve as aggressively as possible. basically shut the state down, but for essential services as we have done now for weeks. we started meeting on this in

january, so this is something where you've just got to stay out ahead of it as much as possible. at the same time you're doing that, you've got to build out your health care system. beds, personal protective equipment, ventilators, health care workers, and those are the two fronts of the war. we have to fight it inch by inch, minute by minute. >> i know tonight your job to tell folks and other states or governors what to do in their states, but are you concerned at all that the people in your state and people here in new york are going to have to stay at home longer because these other states haven't come to the realization that they need to stay at home yet? and once they do, that's going to prolong for everybody the amount of time that's maybe needed to stay at home? >> i said this today to our state. we're putting our people through hell and back. by the way, we have to. this is a war. we have to behave like it's a war. there's no time to panic, but it is certainly no time for business as usual. but the last thing we need is if

we crack the back of this -- and we will, we will succeed in this -- and we begin to slowly and responsively get back on our feet, the last thing we need is for that to get undone. and we're going to do everything we can to make sure that doesn't happen. i promise you. >> what do you need now in your state? >> well, we need i think, number one, more ventilators. we've been on the phone morning, noon and night with the white house. i was on with admiral earlier at the highest levels. we need more personal protective equipment. we need more beds and i want to give a shout out to fema and the army core, they're helping us build four field hospitals, one of which i'm going to tour on thursday. and fourth, our health care workers are heroic. first responders heroic. we need to back and fill and broaden their ranks. and we're in the process of signing up the equivalent of basically a medical corps in the state, retired last semester

students, out of staters who can come in and help us out. >> i'm not looking to point fingers, but in terms of trying to fix stuff that's not working, governor cuomo today talked about states competing against each other, essentially bidding and being played off against each other by these companies with supplieser and then even fema coming in and outbidding states. is that a problem for new jersey as well in terms of getting supplies? and how do you fix that? >> listen, it's a challenge for all of us. we've gotten some slugs out of the federal strategic stockpile. god knows we need more. all of us are out there turning over every stone, bidding for every piece of equipment, every piece of personal protective equipment. ventilators we can find. but i will tell you this. there will be a day of reckoning for anybody out there who is trying to take advantage of this situation from a profi profitee.

>> the white house said they have not recommended a statewide order. if they did, that would carry a lot of weight. are you hoping -- do you think that for some of these states it's going to take a white house mandate? >> i can't speak for those states, anderson. i know this. again, we started meeting on this in january. we put our first whole of government task force together superbowl sunday. that's coming up on two months ago. it was quite clear, if you make decisions based on fact, science, the data, that you need to shut the place down. we did it in some smaller steps, and then we went aggressively and shut the whole place down except for essential services. i think those are steps that were without question, if you base it on the science and facts, i'll leave it to others, but i don't see how you could come to a different conclusion. >> governor murphy, we're all in this together. really appreciate it, sir. thank you. >> great to be with you.

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and let's check in with chris cuomo, how are you feeling? >> sick. >> you've had something kind of like i'm dealing with right now. >> really. >> well, i mean, you have been somewhere in the world and you have got an flu-like virus that can be bad. right? you know, so it's snicky, you think it's something else. a doctor told me today flu season is over, sinus an infections basically over. allergies, yes. but if you have anything that is draining you and giving you aches and fever, it very likely is this. it kind of comes in waves. but you know as you can imagine,

my big fear is i may have given it to my wife and kids, it is killing me, anderson, waiting to see how they will be in this. because now i can't take care of them. what matters more to any parent? >> you talked publicly about moving your mom out. that's a blessing that you did that. >> reporter: yeah, andrew didn't have to beat me over the head in press conferences, his intentions are good. your heart and head don't always arrive at the right conclusion. i love my mom, i love having her with us. i thought i was keeping her safe. what you and i are going to be doing over the next few months, thank good, andrea and others in the family had presents of mind. now i'm stuck in the basement. i can't do anything for my family. hopefully, i will be able to do the show. so i don't know what the path forward s. i wanted people to know i have it, one, if you think are you too strong for the virus, are you wrong.

if you think the virus is a death sentence, you are probably wrong. i hope people get the sense of the urgency we have that i have it for better or worse. >> you are obviously early on in this, did they tell you like what to expect moving forward? or is it kind of different for everybody? >> reporter: that's the spookiest part is they really don't know. and i've never dealt with that before in my life where you know usually whatever i have, they know what it is and they tell you about it. here's what you do, here's what you take. they don't know. and there's like nothing to take. and people throw all these remedies, malarial drugs and all that. the experts say not only do they not know it works in these early protocols, but there are a lot of side effects and things for people. so it really is suck it up time. the best medicine is to not get prevention. >> chris, talk about what you will be doing tonight. >> so, look, i will talk about this a little bit. but, obviously, i am not the

story. because there are so many people dealing with this, it's such an extreme and on the front lines, we have people volunteering to fight this battle for us. is we're going to look at the new conclusion and come to one we should all share now. we're all on the same page. the president finally gets it. we are in a long painful hull, forgot the numbers. the reality will be all around us. i think it's the first time we will see the country do it this way. what do we do? what are the manifestations around the country? what does it mean for us going forward? we'll go deep with the best voices we can find. >> i think five minutes from now. take care. we wish you the best. >> reporter: thank you. >> we will be right back, a neurosurgeon has died and others when we continue. these days, it's anything but business as usual.

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tonight as we have most nights we want to pause and remember the lives of those lost in the pandemic so far. dez-ann romain, her colleagues say she was deeply committed to her kids and her community. the brooklyn borough president says she always tried to lift up her students. where others saw problems, she saw potential. she was 36 years ago old. ron golden was a tough as nails big brother, he died of the coronavirus almost two months, the day after his father passed away, just weeks before

he came downt the virus, ron was diagnosed with cancer. he was a loving brother, uncle, a dad and husband, ron golden was 56-years-old. dr. james goodridge was a neurosurgeon, a friend to cnn's dr. sanjay gupta, pioneer in his field, helping kids with neurological conditions. they say he witnessed dr. goodridge perform the most complex surgeries they can do. in 2016, they documented him as he led a team of 40 doctors for a 27-hour surgery to separate 13 month old twin boys worn born with conjoined brains. the surgery was a success. it was one of his specialties. during the holidays, he was known to bake cookies and hand deliver them to his nurses, never had kids of his own. he considered kids he treated as his own. he was a real life hero, dr. james goodridge was 73-years-old. our thoughts are with all the

families impacted by this pandemic. take a look, the empire state building shining in red and white, on the first responders on the front line of this crisis who are risking their lives to help keep us all alive. >> anderson, as always, the per ferkt message. maybe more than ever. those first responders are getting back and our own. thank you, i will check in tomorrow. i am chris cuomo, welcome to prime time. tonight's show will be a little different. priority remain, reality set in all the way to the president. prays yourself, not for a hoax, but for the next few weeks of scary and painful realities. the government is saying we need to keep doing what we are doing. the mitigation efforts are working. the reality, we are our best and, perhaps, only defense. if you need a death toll, you will get it every day and it will frighten