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the inside once you got to know him. just weeks before he came down with the virus, he was diagnosed with cancer. he was a loving brother, uncle, a dad and husband, ron golden was 56-years-old. dr. james goodridge was a neurosurgeon, a friend to cnn's dr. sanjay gupta, pioneer in his field, helping kids with neurological conditions. sanjay says he witnessed him perform some of the most bril nant and complex stories any doctor could do. in 2016, they documented him as he led a team of 40 doctors for a 27-hour surgery to separate 13 month old twin boys worn born with conjoined brains. the surgery was a success. it was one of his specialties. during the holidays, he was known to bake cookies and hand deliver them to his nurses, never had kids of his own. he considered kids he treated as his own. he was a real life hero, dr. james goodridge was 73-years-old. our thoughts are with all the families impacted by this pandemic.
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before we hand it over to chris, take a look, the empire state building shining red and white for the first responders on the front lines of this crisis who are risking their lives to help keep us alive. >> anderson, as always, the per perfect message. maybe more than ever, those first responders are depending on us. thank you for well wishing, brother. i'll check in with you tomorrow. tonight's show will be a little different. priority remain, reality set in all the way to the president. brace yourselves, not for a hoax but for the next few weeks of scary and painful realities. the government is saying we need to keep doing what we're doing. the data shows our mitigation efforts are working. the reality, we are our best and perhaps only defense. if you need a death toll, you will get it every day, and it
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will frighten you. 4,000 already. maybe 100,000. 250,000. trumped up today by this president potentially saying it could have been millions. my suggestion, don't get caught in the numbers. why? they're just scary and they're out of context. we do not have the testing data to make real sense of our reality beyond what we know is the face of it for an overwhelming number who get sick. and that face is mine. i tested positive. scary, yes, as you might imagine. but better me than you. my concern is what i may have put on my family just like you would. that is hurting me way more than anything the virus can do. so, let's focus. let's use this example of me having it as proof that you can get it too. god forbid wechlt ha. we have to do everything we can to avoid being sick. we have to do it for ourselves, our families, and those on the
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front lines saving lives of me and people like you together as ever as one. that is our remedy. what do you say? let's get after it. now, look. i feel fine. i'm able to do the show. you do not want this. and i am not able to be there for my family right now in the way that i want to be. and i still have to see if i got any of them sick. and you can understand how sickening that is to me as a husband and a father. and yet i'm hesitant to talk about me because who cares? this is so small compared to what so many are facing. and we're going to all go through this together. you're going to have stories like mine popping up all over you and your life. you probably do already. why? because testing is just starting to catch up and pulling back the curtain on what we've known to be true for so long. it's not if. it's not when.
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we are in it. this is a fight. it's going to get worse. we're going to suffer. and you have to accept that not with fear but with almost a fanatical sense of passion to fight it because that's the only way you've ever made it through anything hard in your life. and this will be no different. let me be truth. we have real vulnerability. you are not too strong. do not act that way. but show that vulnerability by what you do for yourself and for others. and not just health-wise but economically the toll this is taking. how many people do you know who are worried about losing a job or who have lost their job and are not sure about how to get food on the table. everyone gets it now. trump is even questioning the hard reality. he's worried and he should be. so, let's move past this idea of fear to fact. what do they need us to do? what is working? what do we have questions about? what remains? for that there's no one better
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than dr. sanjay gupta. it's good to see you, bro. >> hey, chris. man, i feel for you. i know you well. i know you're saying you feel okay, but you look a little under the weather and i'm sorry, brother. i know you well, and i'm sorry that you're feeling that way. >> well, i probably don't look great because i have coronavirus. i think you know, once we clear that up, that's what it is. and look, i'm a fighter. most of us are going to be fine. i'm okay with that. there's so many who are so much more vulnerable and there's so many people as you know sacrificing themselves every day to fight for the weakest among us. so, what they did today extending it, they seem to be pretty soft about it. you and i both believe we've got to be looking at april or may in order for this to work in a way where we can combat it with our existing capacity. what are they saying now? how much does it square with reality to you? >> well, look, i mean these models that everyone's talking about where they're saying maybe
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100,000 people would die and that's sadly, you know, a best-case scenario, chris. one of the things you've got to keep in mind when they look at those models they're talking about maintaining these measures until the end of may, right? so, right now they're saying end of april. but even in the best case scenario, you would extend it at least until the end of may. every state in the country would be doing that. not all the states in the country are doing this right now. if some states don't, that affects all of us, chris. as we've said for a couple of months now, how you belaif affects me, how i behave affects you. that is still true. there are still people not abiding by this. they don't see the severity of it. maybe after hearing you've tested positive, maybe people will behave differently, i don't know. but those models are just that and they're contingent on the fact that from here on out every state in the country is really serious about these social
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mitigating measures. not easy. it's tough. it's really tough. >> what do you say to the people who are in a low-density area and they want to work and they can work and they don't see the case numbers. they're not in new york. they're not in phanew jersey. they're not the coast. they don't have so many risk factors. how do you convince those people that they need to do what isn't necessary now because it might be necessary later. that is not a uniquely american instinct. >> it's not. i get no joy in saying these things but we've been looking at these things for several months now. i've spent a lot of time looking at these models. here's what i would say. a week and a half ago, michigan was saying that. they had 15 cases. they said maybe we dodged this thing. now they're well over 1,500. louisiana sort of the same thing. maybe this is going to bypass us altogether. now they're considered a hot spot in new orleans. sadly this is a virus that is
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circulating around the country. virus doesn't care where you live. it does care to the extent that if you're in a densely populated area like new york maybe you're going to see these numbers earlier. but i think if you listen closely to what public health officials have been telling us, i think even as you listen to these press conferences and everything, i think they don't want to jar the country with some of what's happening now. i'm not suggesting we need to jar the country. but the reality is this. i think every state in the country is in some way following the same curve as you've seen in new york. new york's just earlier on the curve for the reasons we just mentioned. it's going to happen. we can do something about it. there is an end. if you act now you're probably going to reduce the impact from a public health standpoint and an economic standpoint later. i know it's hard. it's like individual like i tell you to eat right and exercise and then you don't have a heart attack. was it because i ate right and exercised or i wasn't going to have a heart attack anyways?
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how do you prove a negative. that's the challenge for a lot of people. it doesn't make it any more important. >> i'll tell you what's scary about this that i didn't realize until basically today. i've never had anything where you cannot control the suck. you know, even when i've had the flu, you've got the familitamif. you took the vaccine. it mutes it. catch it early with the tamiflu. goes good. they give you antivirals. it can work. it is scary to have people say two things. one, the real answer is suck it up. stay home. stay away from your family. hydrate. take time if you need it. that's all you've got until you're an extremist. that's scary. then the second scary thing is then everybody gives you a million things to take, antimalarial, cpac, the hide chloroquine which the president %-p.
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do we know anything even close to definitively where you would feel comfortable telling your approxima friend, chris, go for it. it's worth the risk. do we have anything like that right now? >> chris, i'm sorry you're going through this, really. you know, i really feel for you. it's not good. it's a serious thing, and you're a tough guy. but i know it really makes people feel miserable. so, i'm sorry you're going through this. you know, there aren't any proven medications right now. and look people will say hey, look, if it's not proven but maybe it works in a situation like this, should we do it anyway, let me take one of the examples you gave. hydrochloroquine and the z pack, one of the ones people have heard about, the president has talked about and a lot of doctors have talked about it. one, we don't have the evidence that it works. evidence is importance here for a couple of reasons. first of all, the studies they
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did, there were people who weren't counted in the study. they started the study. they weren't counted in the final conclusions but some of those people got quite sick despite taking the medication. when you do the math on this small study of 20 people it didn't necessarily show benefit. you've got to try this out in larger populations. the french doctor who was the author of that study came out today and said look, i want to be clear, i never wanted to recommend that people just start medicating themselves with this. by the way, if you do, you should get a ekg ahead of time. monitor your potassium. there could be significant side effects. last thing we want to do to anybody is cause harm. that's why you do trials. i wish it worked. i wish we could say it worked and we knew it for sure and i would say my pal, chris, can take this and help him retus the severity and duration of this virus. can't say that for sure. that's one of the most common
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ones. rememb remdesivir was trialed. it was never approved. a lot of enthusiasm about it. people have heard about these antiaids drugs. those are probably the most promising. those trials were started right after, a week after the first patient was diagnosed in china. people said we've got it. these are the drugs that are going to work. two weeks ago, final study came out and said they didn't work. that's why you do these studies. there's going to be something. we just don't know what it is yet. >> we do know that the one thing is the prevention. and that if you stay away from people, your chance of getting it is so much less and then you don't have to deal with the unknown. and it's simple as that. and that's the only reason -- look, i wasn't going to have this and not tell people because i'm not going to tell people they've got to be straight about this -- i don't care how you
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live your lives regularly, but this is bigger than your personal choices. my basement is great but i can't go hug my kids. i can't be with my family. i don't know what's going to come next. i don't know if the tightness in my chest is a function of the virus or because i'm so pissed off at myself that i'm not able to take care of what i'm able to take care of. the bittersweet thing is people can avoid it. >> no doubt. we have data that shows what can decrease the likelihood of this continuing to spread which can hopefully avoid some of these worst case scenarios in this country. but, chris, can i just ask for a second just because of what you just said. there are some things that, you know, are worth probably getting checked out. you know, for most people, they're not going to need to go to the hospital. it's going to be a tough period, but they recover from this illness. they're going to be okay. but there are a few things
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that's sometimes concerns. one is if your shortness of breath is getting worse. you mentioned tightness in your chest. we don't have to do that right now, i'm going to ask you more about that. but tightness in the chest, pressure in the chest, if it's getting worse, those are things i'm worrying about. if you're developing evidence where you're not getting enough oxygen, feel like you're losing consciousness or got blue lips, those are obvious ones. those are things that should take you to the doctor. most people aren't going to need it, chris. but i want to make sure especially given that you might have -- you mentioned tightness in your chest, i want to make sure that we leave people with the right impression that there are situations that need to get checked out. >> look, this is -- this is scary. i know you heard what i said at the top of the show. i'm not diving into the numbers because i know we're playing catch up. people are getting freaked out by the jumps in the numbers and it was always going to happen. the only number i'm going to
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argue matter social securiis on. it's what you choose to decide. everything else is going to scare the heck out of you. i'll talk to you whenever you want. i don't want to take up your time because you're being so helpful to so many people. you are the best of us and i can't tell you -- >> we love you, chris. feel better. >> i can't tell you how good people have been. people are being so nice and that is a beautiful thing and that shows our capacity to be much more powerful than any virus. sanjay, i'll talk to you soon. thank you for helping me out, brother. >> stay close, you got it. >> not too close. i don't want to get you sick. the man overseeing one of america's newest coronavirus hotspots says he is only getting a fraction of what he is asking for. we have to stay on this because this is one of the blurry things and it can't be blurry. you have to shine a light on it. we've got to be blunt about it. we've got to be aggressive about it. illinois's governor says a big shipment did arrive but it had the wrong masks.
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is that true or not? what does it mean for him going forward? how does it get fixed? the governor, straight talk, next. ♪ ♪ ♪
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let's deal with a very big point of contention right now, okay? the president says that the states are getting what they need,that the federal plan has really ramped up. but for some governors, it's stimply never enough. meaning what? that the problem is somewhat theirs, not his. he uses that on new york where the governor of course is my brother and he also uses it on the governor joining us now of illinois. it's good to see you, governor. >> great to you see you. we're all thinking about you, praying for you, chris. >> i'm one of the lucky ones, governor. thank you very much. i'm going to do the job and hopefully i'll just be an example. anybody can get it. if you think it's not going to be you, that's what i used to say also.
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god bless you, governor. >> an awful lot of people are going to get it. yeah. >> the president says listen, i get that you're nervous. i get you want, you want, you want, but i've given you plenty. use what i'm giving you the right way and you don't have to worry about it. your response is you didn't send me what i asked for. what's the reality? >> well, we asked for 1.7 million n95 masks and we've got about 400,000 total. we asked for many, many gloves and gowns and so on. we've gotten about 10% of what we asked for. we needed testing early on. they were promising millions of tests and you've heard them say that over and overagain. the truth is that we've got very few tests from the federal government. and in fact their federal testing is slowed down because they throw it all at lab corp. and quest and they've got a huge backlog.
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those tests are coming back in four to ten days. what we're doing in the state of illinois we can do in one day or two days. that's very important. that time makes a huge difference in peoples' development of their virus and whether they're going to end up in the hospital or not. >> two points of push back. one is yeah, you only got 10%. that's all you need right now. you don't need everything you want right now. we'll do it in stages. use what i just gave you. when you run out, i'll give you more. that's the president's rationale for many of the bigger states. what's the reality for you? >> well, that's not been the case. we've had to go out on to the open market to find masks, both surgical masks, n95 masks, gowns, face shields, et cetera. we're competing against the federal government. we're competing against big states like new york and california. and we're competing against other countries because the president has not invoked or used the defense production act to help us with all the needs we
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have. one company, gm, on ventilators. that's nice. that's good. i'm glad he's doing it. but we need a comprehensive solution because we need 4,000 more ventilators here in illinois from the federal government where we've asked for those thousands of ventilators, we've now received a grand total of 450. >> and look, you know, i have a little of personal insight here. i have been dealing with procurement questions going on in new york and it's not a question. the governor is telling the truth. i have had guys serving as vendors who have masks. when they come back and tell you the price has changed or they have to give them to illinois or a different state because they came in and have money to spend more quickly. anybody who denies that is lying to you. that is the truth. how to fix it, that is a question for the federal government to take it up. and i'm telling you the governor's telling you the truth right now. i've dealt with his guy's bidding in real time and it's a terrible place for the states to be. where is your one source of
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optimism right now? you're converting spaces. you're putting mitigation strategies in place. every time you report a number, it's going to pop peoples' eyes. why do you have optimism? >> well, my optimism is that the people of illinois, honestly, have come through. we have the testing we have today because of the hospitals here, because of the laboratories here, because our state government has gone out and bought machines and as many swabs and vtm as we possibly can, not to mention rna extractor. we've got our own testing that we spun up that takes two days. the federal government delivered almost nothing and takes four to ten days to get results from them. so, my optimism is that we're solving it here in illinois. but honestly i don't know if we're going to be able to solve it fast enough because i can see this curve moving. i can see us moving to the peak here in relatively short order. and my great concern is that
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we'll run out of icu beds or run out of ventilators. >> what does that look like? >> and there are people dying because -- well, unfortunately, as i said, we need 4,000 ventilators. when i spoke to the vice president and repeated that to him, he said our models show maybe you need 1,400 ventilators. i hope he's right. i said to him give me the 1,400 ventilators then because we're only a couple of weeks away from the peak. truly if we don't have those ventilators delivered in the next week, we're not going to be prepared across the state for the kind of on sleuougt that wee going to see. i'm looking all over the world for ventilators. i'm purchasing every ventilator i can find but we're buying them in 100 lots, 200 lots. i'm taking them 50, 20, 10, wherever i can get them. we're going to run out of ventilators and the federal government really isn't helping at all. >> the biggest help will be people not creating cases and
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that is the scary thing. one time our power is in our own hands, but at the same time, if we make the wrong choices we will see things we have never seen in this country before. god forbid that happens, but if it does, i'm not going to be in here forever. we will be here to tell what's happening in your state and everywhere. stay well. your state needs you healthy more than ever. don't wind up like me. i'll speak to you soon. >> be el wiwell, chris. >> thank you, thank you. governor j.b. prit zer. imagine the pressure on the men and women leading us right now when they know they're not going to have enough to deal with what's coming. that's why what reason do you have not to do what you're supposed to do? how do you help? how do you help others survive? that's a good question. and what about those who can't be there to say good-bye to their loved ones? another job they're doing on the
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all right. look. i'm telling you the death toll can only go in one direction and it's going to go in leaps and bounds. so, yes, the number of nearly 4,000 people having succumbed to this virus is very scary. but you're going to see more of it. accept is reality of where we are and what it takes to get past it. if it were any other illness, okay, usually the dying would be able to see loved ones. i don't know if you've dealt with it in your own life, but i have in my family. that's one of the most important moments in someone's life where you get that closure. with this virus, that's being robbed from so many families. so many are dying alone in quarantined units. why? because we have to keep others safe. i mean, that is the reality, but it is harsh. and it's so hard on peoples'
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hearts. imagine that. and for families but also for health care workers. and that's why people like my next guest are doing all they can to help and provide comfort. i want to introduce you to carly rice. she is a critical care nurse at hard-hit hospital in albany, georgia. first of all, thank you for taking the time. thank you for being one of the angels among us. and i wish the best to you and all your brothers and sisters doing god's work for your community. >> thank you for having me. i really do appreciate it. >> now, i've watched you guys work your magic, and i've seen what you have to absorb of people in pain and how you provide not just for the patient but for the loved ones. now you were put in a unique situation where you may be the only person that can be with somebody. what is that like for you? >> it's a lot of pressure to begin with. it's overwhelming.
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but it's -- it's my duty as a person, as a nurse. i took an oath to take care of these patients from their mind, body, and soul, and that's what i'm doing along with everybody else that i'm working with. it's so heartbreaking. >> you are very experienced and you're getting more than you ever imagined by the hour. but you're also young. how hard is it for you emotionally to see people who should not be ready to die and the desperation that i know that you see and the helplessness? how do you handle that emotionally? >> i have good days and i have bad days. it's very hard to see someone close to your age in there fighting for their life, completely healthy. and the virus, the beast, has
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taken them down so quickly. i handle it because of my faith and my support system at home. my husband and my family and friends. i honestly could not get through every single day without them. i just get so emotional about what we have to see. with me being so young i didn't ever think that i would see this amount of death all at one time. i mean, you think about it throughout your nursing career. you're going to see a bunch of them. but all at one time is -- i don't know how to explain the feelings that i have for it. like it's -- sorry. >> sorry? listen, you are the best of us. so many families are going to be given a gift by you that nobody
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else could. and it is so sad and it is tragic and it is wrong that that is put on you. but that is why we call you guys heroes. and i know that it doesn't end with you at their bedside. you have to think about what you're bringing home to your husband, young family, your loved ones day after day and with the equipment and i know you guys feel lonely. i know you're calling the virus the beast. i'm hearing that all over the country. and i know you guys feel like you're not sure if people get what you're up against. we get it. we get it enough, god willing to stay home and keep ourasses on the kauch so you can do the job saving the rest of us. i promise you people in my business will get it. you are doing everything for us. i'm just sorry you're in the position. >> i'm not. i was led here. this is my journey and this is what god wants me to do.
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so, i will do it with my faith and my head held high and do what i need to do for y'all's family and my family and the community. >> you know what? i knew you were going to say that. and do you know why? because every person i talk to in your situation, it's got to be something genetic, where you have a quality in you that just allows you to care for other people in a way most don't. but even now when they keep saying the apex is coming, we haven't seen it yet, the curve is going to get steeper, it's going to get worse, what does that look like to you day to day in terms of your fear? and what does that do to you emotionally and internally in terms of how you prepare for
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each day? >> each day is different. some you've had deaths when you go home to go to sleep, you come back, people are gone. the fear i have is we won't be able to do enough. we try and we try. we're the fixers. and we're not able to fix everybody. and it's very hard. i just pray for our community. we're such a smaller hospital compared to the bigger ones in new york. and we're using our resources the way that we should. we have what we need. but eventually we're going to run out of space and we'll have to rely on the other communities to be able to help us and other hospitals and stuff. and i just pray that each patient is taken care of the way that they need to be taken care
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of and we have everything that we need to. >> it should be a promise from the rest of us because that's what this time is about. i'm talking to you for a reason. there are people at bigger hospitals that are doing the same thing, but you matter just as much. every face time call that you make by somebody's bedtime where you give a family an opportunity to look at their loved one, are you aware of what you're giving them as a gift? >> i hope i'm giving them peace and comfort. that's my main goal. i will do my best to keep the patient comfortable no matter what, but i'm also supposed to take care of their loved ones even if i can't see them or touch them, give them a hug. they're always in my prayers. they're always going to be in my mind no matter what. the face time just give me
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another chance to connect with them and to let them know that they're not alone, their family member's not alone. i will be there no matter what. >> it means so much. it has to mean so much. i hope that that gives you a measure of solace. i know there's so many mixed emotions for you of what you can control and what you can't and is it enough and why does it have to come this way. but you don't determine who lives and who dies but you do have a huge hand in how it happens. and what you're doing with those families, i'm telling you it is a gift for people. and they'll remember it the rest of their lives. i thank you and i want to stay in touch. and you let me know what you need and god bless your husband and your family. stay well. we need you. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> carly rice. albany, georgia. i can touch my face. i'm already sick.
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all right. health first always, always, but survival means money as well.
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first of the month looming over millions of americans, april 1st. forget about april fools' day. this virus played us all for fools. even during the best of economic times, we're stretched. now there are going to be record spikes in people out of work who have great need. one of those needs is going to be literally the basics of food. kids aren't the only ones that depend on meals at schools. there are a lot of families that are going to need food on the table. how do we deal? all right. the good news is i have somebody who's working on this problem. her name is alexis glik. and yes, she is a well-known economic analyst but she happens to be an example of an american as well who is figuring out a solution. thank you for joining me, my friend. >> thank you so much for having me. i'm thinking about youme. i'm here for you. >> why do you look so much better on your shot at home than i do? >> we've got to get used to this
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stuff. i was thinking i've got to be bright and happy for you, so i'm bright orange for you, chris. >> so, the need -- look, alexis talks to me all the time. she coaches me up before the show on a regular basis. the need is greater than we imagined. why? >> it is tremendous. as we sit here today, 124,000 schools are closed in the united states impacting 55 million kids. but as i've been telling you, the thing that keeps me up at night are the 30 million kids who rely on school meals. right now, chris, those school buildings have become school feeding sites. every one of us can, you know, we think back to our youth, right? and stepping into the school lunchroom or into the cafeteria and that man or woman puts food on your plate. well, those people right now are on the front lines. those are the school nutrition teams and the volunteers.
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and what's happening in our school buildings today is they are ground zero for feeding. so, they're providing meals whether it be grab and go or through buses to ensure that every kid gets access. and chris, it's not just the 30 million kids who rely on those school meals. because of what you just referenced, families getting lay off, people getting furloughed. those school buildings are not just feeding the kids who need the meals, but now many more kids and families who are coming to those school buildings hungry. >> so, we have to make sure the people on the front lines get treated that way so, that they're able to stay there and keep feeding people. that's about ppe. what else do you know about the need and what resource do you have for people? >> so, what we did is we launched literally 24 hours ago a covid-19 emergency school nutrition fund. it allows school buildings,
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these schools, to apply for up to $3,000. and those funds, what they can do is go buy those containers that they need, whether it be cooler bags, whether it be grab and go packaging for those meals because the delivery mechanism of those meals are now being changed to school buses and being handed out on corners so that they're not congregating, plus the ppe that they need to protect themselves. thus far, chris, we've been able to raise $3 million to help support schools. we've received 750 applications in the first handful of hours yesterday. >> so, you need more. where do you go? what's the site? how do i get there? pitch, pitch, pitch, pitch. >> go to genyouth.
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we want you to help us feed the nation's kids. i have america's dairy farmers who have been hit so hard who pledged million dollars out of the gate. i'm asking friends to raise their hands in video messages. and i want americans to know, to number one put up that video, post yourself for school's sake raising your hand to help kids in need, and number two, put your heart in your hand and if you can donate even a little bit, let's help our front line workers who are feeding our nation's kids and families in such a difficult time in this country. >> i'm sick. i forgot where to go. what is the website? >> it is genyouthnow.org. that's the website you can go to donate. >> genyouthnow.org.
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and what can i text? >> schools 20222 and you can donate through the text. >> schools 20222. if you go to the big shots in the sports world and beyond are telling you to do it. you shouldn't need it. what alexis just told you is more than enough. if you can help, help. together as ever as one we get through this. alexis, i love you. best to the family. >> i love you too, honey. i'm here for you. stay safe. my love to christine and the kids. >> thank you very much. they're all upstairs. nobody's talking to me right now. all right. i am now among those who have contracted what they are calling the beast, this virus. proof positive that you are not too strong. that there is none who is immune. but what does it mean? what have i learned more acutely than i ever wanted to? i'll tell you next.
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i don't know if you agree with me. let me know. but more than anything else, this situation is just so weird, right? isn't that the word that just keeps coming up, that we're just like living a sci-fi thriller. and it turns out that fact is stranger than fiction. right? i mean, that's the reality. so many of the traditional differences among us are disappearing. why? because we're all in the same bucket, stuck in the house, sharing fears, sharing worries about providing and wellness and leadership, feelings of doubt. can this really be as daunting as everyone seems to think now? well, on that question, let me serve as confirmation of the reality. okay? you can get this. now, unlike me, you will not have the added oddity of
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watching in real time as your brother addresses the nation and discusses the fact that you have just caught the virus. >> my brother chris is positive for coronavirus. found out this morning. the -- now, he is going to be fine. he's young, in good shape, strong -- not as strong as he thinks, but he will be fine. and now he's quarantined in the basement. but he's funny as heck. he says to me even the dogs won't come downstairs, he says. but he is concerned about his wife and his kids. people wind up exposing you and then they find out they're positive a couple of days later. it's my family. it's your family. it's all of our families. and this virus is that insidious.
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>> look, let's just be clear about something. captain banana hands is right. it is all of us. but it is literally me. okay? and i know he was trying to be comforting to the rest of you. hearing him talk to me that way about me made me very worried about what the road ahead could be. i started calling all these doctors after that. i was like, this is not a good indication of my future. and luckily what's going on is what's going on with everybody. man, are we scared when it's someone we know and we love. he raised me. of course it's going to freak him out. and i don't want to be a cautionary tale, but i am fighting something that we don't really understand, and you do not want to be in that position. no one can really give me anything good to do about it. it's really -- i've never seen anything like that before where there's, like, nothing you can do. the tightness in my chest is tough to account for. is it the virus? or is it the choking concern of my inability to do what matters most, which is the same thing for you, to care for my family?
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look what i've done. look what i am now. i can't help. i can't be there. i can't even hold them. for how long? weeks? now, look, it's no longer an opinion. one of the only things we know for sure is that staying home is our best, if not our only chance of avoiding long-term suffering. what else do you need to hear? even trump gets that now. look, i am honestly happy that it is me. better than you. better than my family. god forbid. i'm waiting for that information and that will take me any lower than any virus ever could. and i hope so strongly for your family and for you, i mean that, and i hope you feel that as well. we have to fight for one another any way that we really never have here before. and that is a daunting challenge, but it's an exciting one as well. it is time to walk the walk. i'm going to be in the basement in self-quarantine. big deal. of course emotionally it's hard
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for me, but to reduce the strain on our angels, on those front lines like you met tonight, carley, so that we don't expose other people, we don't create more case load, more risk to her to go home to her family, with how long she's going to have to do this, weeks and months. do what we need to do to remind everyone of who we are at our best, and that is the only reality we need to motivate us right now. not numbers. forget the numbers. why? we're playing catch-up. they can only jump exponentially. they can only be scary. the only number that i argue matters is one. you. me. what do you choose to do? to do and not to do, right? you know the phrase, to borrow from shakespeare a little bit. it's not the question. it is the answer. the only good news is they're telling us it's working. staying away works. let the fact i'm doing the show and i'm doing okay be a comfort. that the numbers are not everything. most of us are going to be fine. hopefully it stays that way for
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me. but also let me take away any illusion that you're not bigger, you're too big for this. if i can get it, you can get it, all right? remember, the good news is we are our best solution. together as ever as one. we know what to do to make this easier on all of us. we just have to do it. a lot of news. "cnn tonight." d. lemon on top of all of it, as always. >> what's going on today? something's different about your set. >> is it? >> yeah. where's your suit? >> i've worked on this hard. >> your black tie and the white shirt. >> you know, i'm too sick. christina said it didn't look right for me to be sick in a full suit. it looks too much like what i might be buried in. >> yeah? does she come down there and do some decorating and help you dress? >> nope. nobody will come anywhere near me.

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